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(Irish Examiner)   By 2025, a country famous for its well tanned and not pale people will power their grid 100% with solar energy   (irishexaminer.com) divider line
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2022-11-28 9:41:52 PM  
Fair play on ya, that's class.
 
2022-11-28 10:01:50 PM  
Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.
 
2022-11-28 10:09:20 PM  
Good luck getting those to work. It's always overcast there, hardly ever sunny. And what are they gonna do at night? Stupid libs.
*sigh*
/people believe this
 
2022-11-28 10:09:56 PM  
Oh. Not the Germans.

noted
 
2022-11-28 10:17:19 PM  

gameshowhost: Oh. Not the Germans.

noted


They did it with other renewables (mainly wind) a few years ago.

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/renewables-cover-about-100-german-power-use-first-time-ever
 
2022-11-28 10:24:47 PM  

Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.


We produce petroleum and if we switch to solar, we'll sell oil for someone else to burn, creating a net negative compared to now.
 
2022-11-28 10:34:41 PM  
FTA: The electricity system is also rapidly being transformed to power those homes with renewable power so the country is no longer held to ransom by Vladimir Putin or any other fossil fuel interest, Mr Ryan added.

Mr. Ryan described a decent path to avoid war. It looks like the USA could learn a thing or two from Ireland.
 
2022-11-28 10:37:36 PM  

Ivo Shandor: gameshowhost: Oh. Not the Germans.

noted

They did it with other renewables (mainly wind) a few years ago.

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/renewables-cover-about-100-german-power-use-first-time-ever


well shiat. my pasty people have been up to good things.
 
2022-11-28 11:14:35 PM  

covfefe: Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.

We produce petroleum and if we switch to solar, we'll sell oil for someone else to burn, creating a net negative compared to now.


Well that's....a belief I guess.
 
2022-11-28 11:18:45 PM  

Bruscar: FTA: The electricity system is also rapidly being transformed to power those homes with renewable power so the country is no longer held to ransom by Vladimir Putin or any other fossil fuel interest, Mr Ryan added.

Mr. Ryan described a decent path to avoid war. It looks like the USA could learn a thing or two from Ireland.


Won't work. Members of the Green party can get elected in Ireland because multi-member districts and proportional representation.... well ok he got in on the first count. But my point still stands

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Bay_South_(D%C3%A1il_constituency)#2020_general_election
 
2022-11-29 1:17:47 AM  

Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.


Seems like a lot of thought went into this comment.
 
2022-11-29 2:15:56 AM  
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2022-11-29 2:50:12 AM  

thorpe: Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.

Seems like a lot of thought went into this comment.


Combustion managed to spell "their" correctly at least, unlike subby.
 
2022-11-29 2:53:31 AM  
I can't help noticing this news came right after they legalized weed in Ireland.
 
2022-11-29 3:13:24 AM  

Exile On Beale Street: Good luck getting those to work. It's always overcast there, hardly ever sunny. And what are they gonna do at night? Stupid libs.
*sigh*
/people believe this


Ackshully...There is a lot of sun in the western half of the country. I lived there for ten years and needed sunglasses and sunscreen year-round, and tourists who had been told "it's cold and rainy there" were always asking me where they could buy summer clothes.
Storage and transmission are the problem. Even on the best days, the sun rarely shines at night, and the east coast is a weather hellhole. That's why it will take another decade - we need to develop storage.
 
2022-11-29 3:14:17 AM  

covfefe: Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.

We produce petroleum and if we switch to solar, we'll sell oil for someone else to burn, creating a net negative compared to now.


Stop producing petroleum?
 
2022-11-29 3:15:15 AM  
I'm guessing it will never be 100%, for one thing Ireland has a lot of good sites for wind energy.
 
2022-11-29 3:16:46 AM  

Bruscar: FTA: The electricity system is also rapidly being transformed to power those homes with renewable power so the country is no longer held to ransom by Vladimir Putin or any other fossil fuel interest, Mr Ryan added.

Mr. Ryan described a decent path to avoid war. It looks like the USA could learn a thing or two from Ireland.


The US will lose a lot of control of global politics and economics when more countries don't need oil and produce their own energy and water.
That's why Repugnants convince their followers to fight against renewables and to support fossil fuels.
 
2022-11-29 3:47:48 AM  
Australia is already on that path. Everyone and every place is covered over with solar panels. Once they find the appropriate storage system, they're going to go 100% solar 24/7.

New Zealand, being more of a vertically situated land mass, can't get as much sun as Australia. But, they probably can do well with lots of wind, and offshore wind in particular. Maybe wave/tidal power as well (I don't see those as a major contributor: anything to do with ocean water is too messy and complicated, as well as not enough of an energy differential to harness the difference.)
 
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2022-11-29 4:10:48 AM  

dericwater: But, they probably can do well with lots of wind, and offshore wind in particular. Maybe wave/tidal power as well (I don't see those as a major contributor:


There are wikipedia articles about both solar power and wind power in New Zealand.
 
2022-11-29 4:32:21 AM  

Exile On Beale Street: Good luck getting those to work. It's always overcast there, hardly ever sunny. And what are they gonna do at night? Stupid libs.
*sigh*
/people believe this


Simple. All they have to do is stand around their solar panels naked for a few hours.
 
2022-11-29 4:42:47 AM  

Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.


I'm literally just hoping the "invisible hand" saves us with solar and wind being cheaper than anything. Unfortunately, nothing less than banning most uses of fossil fuels will work, and it's still legal to install gas in new houses, and non-hybrid gasoline vehicles are also still legal. So the invisible hand better work fast on making EVs and induction stoves and heat pumps popular and cheap because otherwise it will be worse than we are imagining.
 
2022-11-29 5:51:26 AM  
Meanwhile, Americans literally praise themselves for failure to met even the minimum encessary steps to make future minimum steps. Our towns are bruning down on the priaries and flooding in the Carolingian regions, and Irish people can, per captia, with far less resrouces than Americans, solve their power problems. But no, the USA has to fark everyone over, even the Irish who are doing their part.
 
2022-11-29 6:37:05 AM  
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2022-11-29 6:49:43 AM  

Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.


Not quite everyone. Have you seen Britain lately?
 
2022-11-29 6:57:43 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Meanwhile, Americans literally praise themselves for failure to met even the minimum encessary steps to make future minimum steps. Our towns are bruning down on the priaries and flooding in the Carolingian regions, and Irish people can, per captia, with far less resrouces than Americans, solve their power problems. But no, the USA has to fark everyone over, even the Irish who are doing their part.


While we definitely need to move faster to renewable, clean energy; it's much more difficult with the size of our population.
Ireland has a population of a bit over 7 million people. The United States has a population of 330 million. New York City alone has a population of just under 9 million people.
 
2022-11-29 7:11:22 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Meanwhile, Americans literally praise themselves for failure to met even the minimum encessary steps to make future minimum steps. Our towns are bruning down on the priaries and flooding in the Carolingian regions, and Irish people can, per captia, with far less resrouces than Americans, solve their power problems. But no, the USA has to fark everyone over, even the Irish who are doing their part.


people are buying electric vehicles as fast as they are being made why are you so hung up on this idiotic point. evs haven't eliminated gasoline emissions BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH EVS EVEN EXIST TO HAVE ELIMINATED GASOLINE EMISSIONS
 
2022-11-29 7:43:38 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bennie Crabtree: Meanwhile, Americans literally praise themselves for failure to met even the minimum encessary steps to make future minimum steps. Our towns are bruning down on the priaries and flooding in the Carolingian regions, and Irish people can, per captia, with far less resrouces than Americans, solve their power problems. But no, the USA has to fark everyone over, even the Irish who are doing their part.

While we definitely need to move faster to renewable, clean energy; it's much more difficult with the size of our population.
Ireland has a population of a bit over 7 million people. The United States has a population of 330 million. New York City alone has a population of just under 9 million people.


Ah the standard American response. We can't do anything on a grand scale because we have too many people.

You see this response to a lot of things, notably healthcare.
 
2022-11-29 8:27:52 AM  

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2022-11-29 8:30:20 AM  

adamatari: Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.

I'm literally just hoping the "invisible hand" saves us with solar and wind being cheaper than anything. Unfortunately, nothing less than banning most uses of fossil fuels will work, and it's still legal to install gas in new houses, and non-hybrid gasoline vehicles are also still legal. So the invisible hand better work fast on making EVs and induction stoves and heat pumps popular and cheap because otherwise it will be worse than we are imagining.


Just go to the food tab and try talking about this. Americans will knowingly and willfully burn down the world rather than cook with gas.
 
2022-11-29 8:34:47 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bennie Crabtree: Meanwhile, Americans literally praise themselves for failure to met even the minimum encessary steps to make future minimum steps. Our towns are bruning down on the priaries and flooding in the Carolingian regions, and Irish people can, per captia, with far less resrouces than Americans, solve their power problems. But no, the USA has to fark everyone over, even the Irish who are doing their part.

While we definitely need to move faster to renewable, clean energy; it's much more difficult with the size of our population.
Ireland has a population of a bit over 7 million people. The United States has a population of 330 million. New York City alone has a population of just under 9 million people.


That logically makes no sense. A larger population means more people to do the work. Larger geographically means more space to put collectors. Larger economy per Capita means greater surpluses to put into the project. This is the "can't do trains" fallacy all over again, when we had a counter example sitting right there for decades.
 
2022-11-29 8:50:32 AM  

Gubbo: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bennie Crabtree: Meanwhile, Americans literally praise themselves for failure to met even the minimum encessary steps to make future minimum steps. Our towns are bruning down on the priaries and flooding in the Carolingian regions, and Irish people can, per captia, with far less resrouces than Americans, solve their power problems. But no, the USA has to fark everyone over, even the Irish who are doing their part.

While we definitely need to move faster to renewable, clean energy; it's much more difficult with the size of our population.
Ireland has a population of a bit over 7 million people. The United States has a population of 330 million. New York City alone has a population of just under 9 million people.

Ah the standard American response. We can't do anything on a grand scale because we have too many people.

You see this response to a lot of things, notably healthcare.


Did I say we can't do anything?
No, you farking moron.

I said there are difficulties because of population size.
 
2022-11-29 8:53:58 AM  
FTFA:
What that means is that by 2025 there will be sunny afternoons when we are generating enough solar electricity to power the entire country.

Well, 10 days a year is a good start.
 
2022-11-29 9:28:11 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Combustion: Seems like everyone is getting their shiat together except the US.

Not quite everyone. Have you seen Britain lately?


Under the first ten years of Tory rule the UK went from almost last place in the European solar ranking to third place, despite our reputation for bad weather and our northerly situation. (Don't forget that England is the same latitude as Hudson Bay in Canada. There are parts of Scotland more northerly than some parts of Alaska.)
And the UK just opened the worlds largest offshore wind farm and is building more. Wind now regularly supplies half the UKs electricity. France now buys electricity from us.
Other green measures the evil Tories have introduced include all new build homes must now have EV chargers built in, properties must meet tough insulation standards before they can be rented out, sale of petrol and diesel cars to be banned by 2030 etc.
 
2022-11-29 9:38:07 AM  
Reduction in consumption mysteriously absent.

Mine, manufacture, ship around the globe and hopefully dispose of batteries correctly.  Solar is the latest fad.
 
2022-11-29 11:48:29 AM  

Ivo Shandor: gameshowhost: Oh. Not the Germans.

noted

They did it with other renewables (mainly wind) a few years ago.

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/renewables-cover-about-100-german-power-use-first-time-ever


Reaching 100% at 1pm on one Sunday in June is not particularly impressive.

Though now that I've read the article, that's all Ireland is aspiring to.
 
2022-11-29 12:22:40 PM  

Exile On Beale Street: Good luck getting those to work. It's always overcast there, hardly ever sunny. And what are they gonna do at night? Stupid libs.
*sigh*
/people believe this


Yes, stupid people actually believe that solar panels alone can meet the energy needs of a country right now.

That's pretty stupid.
 
2022-11-29 12:45:57 PM  

Unda: Ivo Shandor: gameshowhost: Oh. Not the Germans.

noted

They did it with other renewables (mainly wind) a few years ago.

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/renewables-cover-about-100-german-power-use-first-time-ever

Reaching 100% at 1pm on one Sunday in June is not particularly impressive.

Though now that I've read the article, that's all Ireland is aspiring to.


The German one was in January.

It's a significant milestone to reach 100% renewable supply for a few minutes. Obviously there's much more work required to get rid of carbon emissions during the rest of the year. As that happens, there will be more and more times when there's an oversupply of solar energy for hours or days at a time. That's when you invest in hydrogen/ammonia production, atmospheric CO2 capture, water desalination and pumping, etc.
 
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