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(AP News)   Gaslighting is not Merriam-Webster's word of the year for 2022   (apnews.com) divider line
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2022-11-28 10:40:06 AM  
Of course it isn't.
The real word is Freedum: The reward promised by Republicans in exchange for all your boring old freedom.
 
2022-11-28 10:47:28 AM  
You just think it's the word of the year. It's all in your head. Typical you.
 
2022-11-28 11:12:17 AM  

Private_Citizen: Of course it isn't.
The real word is Freedum: The reward promised by Republicans in exchange for all your boring old freedom.


You misspelled "Freedumb".
 
2022-11-28 11:12:33 AM  
No, but they did remove "gullible" from the dictionary.
 
2022-11-28 11:16:52 AM  
Gaslighting is the popular hobby of igniting decorative lanterns at sunset, often dressed in 19th Century British garb.
 
2022-11-28 11:18:52 AM  
Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.
 
2022-11-28 11:19:26 AM  
Of course they didn't use it this year. Everyone knows that it would have been a better year for it anywhere from 2016-2021.
 
2022-11-28 11:20:31 AM  
Seems about six years late. It was a great addition to the lexicon circa 2015-2016, but has become overused. Gaslighting is supposed to have a very specific meaning: manipulating people into doubting what they've seen or heard. Nowadays I see the term trotted out anytime someone is generally being dishonest, and that's kind of a shame.
 
2022-11-28 11:20:34 AM  
Who knew a term for lighting farts on fire would get this far.
 
2022-11-28 11:21:35 AM  
About 5 years late, if you ask me, and you did.
 
2022-11-28 11:22:32 AM  

danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.


By this definition anyone who realizes they've been gaslit was not gaslit, so I can't imagine that's right.
 
2022-11-28 11:24:30 AM  
It now means "lying."
 
2022-11-28 11:24:38 AM  
"Merriam-Webster's top definition for gaslighting is the psychological manipulation of a person, usually over an extended period of time, that "causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator." "

In other words... Fox News
 
2022-11-28 11:25:48 AM  

Super Chronic: Seems about six years late. It was a great addition to the lexicon circa 2015-2016, but has become overused. Gaslighting is supposed to have a very specific meaning: manipulating people into doubting what they've seen or heard. Nowadays I see the term trotted out anytime someone is generally being dishonest, and that's kind of a shame.


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2022-11-28 11:30:37 AM  
Hmmm, Maybe MAGAS are starting to catch on to what Fox News and Trump have been doing to them?
 
2022-11-28 11:32:51 AM  

sirrerun: About 5 years late, if you ask me, and you did.


Dictionaries typically lag a little behind current use. Often because they need solid published examples of a word being used with a consistent definition. What's interesting here is the uptake of the word as it clearly fills a gap in English vocabulary.
 
2022-11-28 11:35:38 AM  

anticontent: danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.

By this definition anyone who realizes they've been gaslit was not gaslit, so I can't imagine that's right.


You don't realize it when it's occurring. You question your perceptions, and eventually reality itself.  One may realize that they've been gaslighted after the fact, but while it's occurring, and successful, you don't know. That's basically the whole point behind the endeavor.

It may seem pedantic, but past, and present awareness plays a role in determining gaslighting. If someone realizes that one is attempting to manipulate them, they, by definition, are not gaslighted.
 
2022-11-28 11:36:19 AM  

Super Chronic: Seems about six years late. It was a great addition to the lexicon circa 2015-2016, but has become overused. Gaslighting is supposed to have a very specific meaning: manipulating people into doubting what they've seen or heard. Nowadays I see the term trotted out anytime someone is generally being dishonest, and that's kind of a shame.


I'd honestly go slightly farther than you on the last part. I'd say it was more:

2015-18: Properly used to describe Trump saying that he never said things we all heard him say or drawing on a hurricane map to try and cover up repeating old info and expecting us to fully believe it.

2018-21: Clickbait has taken control of the word and is using it to describe anything that's sort of bullshiat if you think about it a certain way. "Hollywood is trying to gaslight us into thinking that Joker is a good movie!"

2022: Partly because of its abuse, sometimes to the point of being cringeworthy, the word is now as passé as Facebook. No one's using it for anything less than very occasionally using it for actual psychological manipulation.
 
2022-11-28 11:41:13 AM  
Webster's isn't really a dictionary anyways. The guy that founded it was a religious zealot with an agenda, and the people running it today have serious FOMO in regards to urban dictionary.
 
2022-11-28 11:43:09 AM  
Jessica Fletcher was a serial killer.

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2022-11-28 11:43:13 AM  
Oh for.... it's not even December yet, and the end-of-year lists have already started? It's a WAR ON THE NEW YEAR!
 
2022-11-28 11:45:43 AM  
There once were some ugly ducklings..

Ugly Ducklings - Gaslight
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2022-11-28 11:50:22 AM  
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2022-11-28 11:52:50 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Private_Citizen: Of course it isn't.
The real word is Freedum: The reward promised by Republicans in exchange for all your boring old freedom.

You misspelled "Freedumb".


Freedumbs is always plural
 
2022-11-28 11:58:11 AM  

danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.


This thread should turn into a fight over weather or not clip and magazine can be used interchangeably.

Dumb mean can't speak.
Ignorant means unaware.
Mad means insane.
 
2022-11-28 11:59:19 AM  

anticontent: danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.

By this definition anyone who realizes they've been gaslit was not gaslit, so I can't imagine that's right.


Clearly you are unaware where it came from. It's from a movie.
 
2022-11-28 12:02:06 PM  

Super Chronic: Seems about six years late. It was a great addition to the lexicon circa 2015-2016, but has become overused. Gaslighting is supposed to have a very specific meaning: manipulating people into doubting what they've seen or heard. Nowadays I see the term trotted out anytime someone is generally being dishonest, and that's kind of a shame.


Yep. See also:  "emotional labor."
 
2022-11-28 12:05:27 PM  
Crypto, gaslighting it's all the same.
 
2022-11-28 12:07:09 PM  

danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.


The name calling word that bugs me in its evolution is "Tool"

As in "You tool" or "You are a tool"

Way back when you had to be a tool of something. And it meant that you were an easily manipulated robotic implement used by someone or something else. As in "You are a tool of the running yellow capitalist dogs" or "You are a tool of the pinko commie efette Ivory Tower elitists"


It has lost most of its meaning/sting and all of it's color and panache as "U R A tool"

Language changes though and not always for the better
 
2022-11-28 12:16:58 PM  

danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.


Mansplainer!
 
2022-11-28 12:21:29 PM  

waxbeans: Dumb mean can't speak.
Ignorant means unaware.
Mad means insane.


Mean is the sum of all values divided by the number of values
 
2022-11-28 12:26:23 PM  

danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.


There's also a connotation that someone who gaslights is intentionally deceiving, and there is a moral offense being committed.

Disagreements and differences of opinion are not moral offenses. Once you make a disagreement a moral question (I.e. your difference of opinion is not due to different experiences, perceptions, or information, but rather due to being a defective or detestable person), the discussion ends.

If you don't avoid moral stances in discussions, you are a horrible human being and destroying our society.
 
2022-11-28 12:30:37 PM  
Gaslighting's not real you made it up because you're crazy.
 
2022-11-28 12:34:48 PM  

danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.


or even just under a streetlight, and able to be seen
 
2022-11-28 12:39:38 PM  

anticontent: danvon: Much like the word "snowflake" was perverted, "gaslighting" has taken on a different meaning than its original intent.

It seems the most common usage nowadays is to replace "I don't believe you", or "you believe something different than I do" with "you're gaslighting me". Which makes no sense because under its original meaning, the person who is being gaslit, doesn't know they're being manipulated.

By this definition anyone who realizes they've been gaslit was not gaslit, so I can't imagine that's right.


What happens when the gaslightee becomes aware.

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2022-11-28 12:42:07 PM  
 
2022-11-28 12:49:01 PM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: It now means "lying."


Which is insulting to the actual meaning, in my opinion. Gaslighting is a form of mental abuse
 
2022-11-28 12:56:08 PM  

Izunbacol: If you don't avoid moral stances in discussions, you are a horrible human being and destroying our society.


Even when discussing control of a humans rights? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
 
2022-11-28 12:56:18 PM  
You're crazy, Subby, and most people here think so too. Do you really think I would make that up? I only say so, because I love you, or did you forget that? You have a terrible memory. Anyway, it's great you got a headline submission, but it's a bummer you're still so underappreciated for it.
 
2022-11-28 12:56:53 PM  

funzyr: SanityIsAFullTimeJob: It now means "lying."

Which is insulting to the actual meaning, in my opinion. Gaslighting is a form of mental abuse


It's often used to increase the signal that you are a victim.

If you say "he is lying," then that sucks.

If you say "he is gaslighting me," there's intent to show you are a victim, and the liar is an abuser.
 
2022-11-28 12:57:06 PM  

WelldeadLink: waxbeans: learly you are unaware where it came from. It's from a movie.

The term "gaslighting" itself is not in the screenplay or mentioned in the movie. The 1944 film is a remake of the 1940 film of the same name, which in turn is based on the 1938 thriller play, set in the Victorian era, Gas Light.


Tomato 🍅.
 
2022-11-28 1:01:46 PM  

WelldeadLink: waxbeans: learly you are unaware where it came from. It's from a movie.

The term "gaslighting" itself is not in the screenplay or mentioned in the movie. The 1944 film is a remake of the 1940 film of the same name, which in turn is based on the 1938 thriller play, set in the Victorian era, Gas Light.


OK? But that's where the term comes from.

Violent postal workers in the 70s and 80s never called what they were doing "going postal," but they're still the origin of the term.
 
2022-11-28 1:03:17 PM  
I'm convinced the real article title is trying to gaslight me because 2017 would have been a more appropriate year.
 
2022-11-28 1:09:10 PM  

Private_Citizen: Of course it isn't.
The real word is Freedum: The reward promised by Republicans in exchange for all your boring old freedom.


It's always amazing to see how effective misinformation can be.

This person clearly has been bamboozled into thinking that the party who is responsible for the greatest limitations on personal freedom and information in history is somehow the party ensuring freedom?

The levels of moronity achieved by Facebook echo chamber denizens are truly astonishing.
 
2022-11-28 1:09:20 PM  

austerity101: WelldeadLink: waxbeans: learly you are unaware where it came from. It's from a movie.

The term "gaslighting" itself is not in the screenplay or mentioned in the movie. The 1944 film is a remake of the 1940 film of the same name, which in turn is based on the 1938 thriller play, set in the Victorian era, Gas Light.

OK? But that's where the term comes from.

Violent postal workers in the 70s and 80s never called what they were doing "going postal," but they're still the origin of the term.


Ackchyually I was pointing out that it's from a play, not a movie. Even if the movie is the era's broadcast-equivalent of the play.
 
2022-11-28 1:13:10 PM  

WelldeadLink: austerity101: WelldeadLink: waxbeans: learly you are unaware where it came from. It's from a movie.

The term "gaslighting" itself is not in the screenplay or mentioned in the movie. The 1944 film is a remake of the 1940 film of the same name, which in turn is based on the 1938 thriller play, set in the Victorian era, Gas Light.

OK? But that's where the term comes from.

Violent postal workers in the 70s and 80s never called what they were doing "going postal," but they're still the origin of the term.

Ackchyually I was pointing out that it's from a play, not a movie. Even if the movie is the era's broadcast-equivalent of the play.


I think that's a tricky assertion to make, given the 1944 film is the most well-known. I doubt Maureen Dowd was thinking about a 1938 stage play when she used the term in the 90s.
 
2022-11-28 1:23:07 PM  
I know all about gaslighting.  My mother spent years convincing us kids that our father was developing early alzheimers or dementia.  Every little slip-up was evidence of cognitive decline.  Every time he got distracted or forgot something was proof.  And she harped on it all the time.  Even had scared phone calls late at night where she called and said she couldn't handle it.  At first I thought it was nonsense.  But then I started wondering if it were true.  And part of me began to believe her.

But then I went off to college and grad school.  When I came back, she was still going on about it.  And I realized it was just her being manipulative for the sake of being manipulative.  There was no end-goal because she had no plans for divorce, there was no real evidence that a doctor could possibly act on.  Just a depressed man whose life did not play out as he planned, no big suburban house with a train layout in the basement, no quiet comfortable den where he could smoke a pipe after work.  Instead, a 90 minute commute, a very busy day job in an office that downsized his subordinates to give him even more work, and a hoarder house to come home to every day and no way to escape it.  So he stopped giving a shiat, true, but he was also haggard because of the situation.  As anybody would.  So what if he forgot to pick up something from the grocery store, who hasn't, especially if they don't write a list?

And so it went from me wondering what's wrong with my father, to wondering what's wrong with my mother.  Manipulation, with no real end goal.  So why did she do it all those years?  Is she mentally unwell?  She did smash one of my father's model railroad boxcars with a hammer when he forgot something, and I think that is far more indicative of her having problems.  She also never did anything to stop hoarding, and kept collecting and saving even though my father hated it and it embarrassed her child.  Manipulation, because she feels she is in control if she can turn people against each other.  She did it with neighbors, but it took a bit of hindsight to realize that.  Because we did legitimately have some sketchy neighbors, I know that because I have seen some of them be arrested (one by a SWAT team).  But others seemed like decent people, so I don't understand why my mother would try to turn them against each other.  To this day I still don talk to neighbors, because I don't want to get caught up in feuds or other nonsense.  That, and constantly disowning my sisters and then acting like she never did a month later.  Being the good, quiet, non-contradicting autistic son, I quietly went along with what she said even though I realized it was bullshiat, because I don't like confrontation.  But I finally got a way out of it all.  Because she included me with one of her disowning moments, and I accepted it at face value and never resumed communications with her.

That's my gaslighting experience.  A manipulative mother trying to turn her children against their father because she could, because it made her feel like she had people on her side and made it feel like she had some control.
 
2022-11-28 1:41:22 PM  
Does ANYONE know what gaslighting means?! | Ep. 3
Youtube xVf1DW0xEgM
 
2022-11-28 1:45:35 PM  
gaslighting is the lazy person's way of dismissing something they don't want to hear.   It is the new mansplaining.


\ this has been a man explaining it to you
\\ i wasn't lying to you
\\\ i know you don't believe me.
\\\\ see the first two sentences and repeat until you accept reality.
 
2022-11-28 1:48:25 PM  

zgrizz: ...that the party who is responsible for the greatest limitations on personal freedom and information in history


Who are you referring to, here? Would you mind showing the class how the party of whom you speak is infringing on personal freedom and controlling information more than, pick one, 1970s Khmer Rouge or any of the cold war Soviet Bloc or Chile under Pinochet or Fidel Castro's Cuba?

Because I'm guessing you're claiming that the party here in the U.S. that suggested filling out some extra paperwork before buying a gun is worse than any of those. And please correct me if I'm wrong.

/Or slink away like a coward, if you'd rather
//hell, even the U.S. party of "no birth control for YOU" isn't quite Stasi-level
///yet
 
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