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(The Hill)   Incoming GOP leaders says our weapons are too complex for Ukrainians. "Our air defense systems are so complex, we need to make certain that we work with partners and pull together an air defense system that they can" blah blah blah   (thehill.com) divider line
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2022-11-27 11:48:38 PM  
I'm sure we have some bored CIA types who could teach them.
 
2022-11-27 11:50:37 PM  
Wow. Demeans the oppressed while denying them aid. 

Could they be Putin's Cocksocket any harder?
 
2022-11-28 12:10:09 AM  
Even if true the Spanish are giving them older Hawks (MIM-23) and the US has a lot of old inventory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-23_Hawk
 
2022-11-28 12:24:12 AM  
They learned how to use HIMARS in like two weeks, and now the Russians are terrified of a weapon that was developed in the 90s. They also haven't lost any of them.
 
2022-11-28 12:25:42 AM  

monsatano: They learned how to use HIMARS in like two weeks, and now the Russians are terrified of a weapon that was developed in the 90s. They also haven't lost any of them.


They lost that wooden one
 
2022-11-28 1:58:44 AM  
US equipment is designed to be used by the lowest common denominator coming out of basic training. I'm sure Ukrainians will figure it out in a week
 
2022-11-28 2:24:55 AM  

zedster: monsatano: They learned how to use HIMARS in like two weeks, and now the Russians are terrified of a weapon that was developed in the 90s. They also haven't lost any of them.

They lost that wooden one


I'm guessing the Boy Scouts that made it at least got a merit badge
 
2022-11-28 3:49:34 AM  
I've heard military guys say similar stuff aviation wise. It's the old pump yourself up thing.

The Ukrainians have been kicking ass just fine and are damn smart. They can handle a few extra buttons.
 
2022-11-28 4:38:24 AM  
Isn't military equipment supposed to be easy to operate?
 
2022-11-28 6:33:19 AM  
FTFA: "It's been very frustrating, obviously, even to the Ukrainians, when they hear these large numbers in the United States as the result of the burgeoned Democrat bills."

It is true that the word on the streets of Kyiv is that such deficit spending will drive up inflation. Surely the Russian invasion is not something to worry about so much. Perhaps a round of tax cuts or voting restrictions would be enough to show support for Ukraine.
 
2022-11-28 7:18:44 AM  
Dude, they have to be simple enough that a high school dropout with a GED can operate them, because they're designed for Americans.

I think that the Ukraine is doing just fine operating them, which is kind of why the airspace above Ukraine ISN'T thick with Russian jets.
 
2022-11-28 7:21:03 AM  
Good thing we aren't giving the Ukrainians the highest tech stuff.
 
2022-11-28 7:23:07 AM  
A vote for republicans is a vote for subservience to Russia.
 
2022-11-28 7:23:18 AM  

hubiestubert: Dude, they have to be simple enough that a high school dropout with a GED can operate them, because they're designed for Americans.

I think that the Ukraine is doing just fine operating them, which is kind of why the airspace above Ukraine ISN'T thick with Russian jets.


the Ukraine?
 
2022-11-28 7:23:40 AM  

johnryan51: Isn't military equipment supposed to be easy to operate?


Yes, and Republicans know that.
 
2022-11-28 7:23:57 AM  

johnryan51: Isn't military equipment supposed to be easy to operate?


How many buttons can a rocket launcher have? Please don't tell me the people that design phone interfaces make them.
 
2022-11-28 7:24:22 AM  

Znuh: Wow. Demeans the oppressed while denying them aid. 

Could they be Putin's Cocksocket any harder?


Harder, sure. Deeper? No.
 
2022-11-28 7:24:42 AM  
Republicans believe if they can't figure things out, neither can anyone else.
 
2022-11-28 7:24:44 AM  
It's pretty clear that at least some of the GOP are taking orders from a hostile foreign county.
I wonder how much longer we're going to pretend that's acceptable?
 
2022-11-28 7:26:47 AM  

johnryan51: Isn't military equipment supposed to be easy to operate?


No
 
2022-11-28 7:27:17 AM  

Weaver95: It's pretty clear that at least some of the GOP are taking orders from a hostile foreign county.
I wonder how much longer we're going to pretend that's acceptable?


Until they take over.
 
2022-11-28 7:27:46 AM  

NathanAllen: A vote for republicans is a vote for subservience to Russia.


Well, a majority of (voting) Americans decided to capitulate to Russia this November.
 
2022-11-28 7:28:15 AM  

Weaver95: It's pretty clear that at least some of the GOP are taking orders from a hostile foreign county.
I wonder how much longer we're going to pretend that's acceptable?


Until the heat death of the universe.
 
2022-11-28 7:29:37 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: hubiestubert: Dude, they have to be simple enough that a high school dropout with a GED can operate them, because they're designed for Americans.

I think that the Ukraine is doing just fine operating them, which is kind of why the airspace above Ukraine ISN'T thick with Russian jets.

the Ukraine?


Ukraine got "The" after Michigan embarrassed Ohio State. They are just "an Ohio State".
 
2022-11-28 7:29:37 AM  
If it helps, don't think of it as helping Ukraine, think of it as impeding Russia. Ronald St Reagan would approve.
 
2022-11-28 7:29:57 AM  

johnphantom: Weaver95: It's pretty clear that at least some of the GOP are taking orders from a hostile foreign county.
I wonder how much longer we're going to pretend that's acceptable?

Until they take over.


I don't see how. The GOP are barely holding themselves together right now.
 
2022-11-28 7:30:45 AM  

Weaver95: It's pretty clear that at least some of the GOP are taking orders from a hostile foreign county.
I wonder how much longer we're going to pretend that's acceptable?


We did jack squat when a bunch of Republicans went to Russia on the 4th of July. We did jack squat when Trump sided with Russia, multiple times. Americans don't punish politicians who betray their own country.
 
2022-11-28 7:31:41 AM  

Nicki Minaj's Cousin's Friend's Swollen Testicle: If it helps, don't think of it as helping Ukraine, think of it as impeding Russia. Ronald St Reagan would approve.


The modern GOP would think Reagan was a dirty liberal.
 
2022-11-28 7:35:08 AM  
Sorry to break up Hate-a-palooza but he said no such thing

FTA:
Turner on Sunday said Republicans will make sure that Ukraine "gets what they need," including critical weapons like air defenses after Russia has pounded the country with a wave of missile strikes.
"We need to make certain we work with partners and pull together an air defense system ... to defend Kyiv, to defend their infrastructure," he said.
 
2022-11-28 7:35:39 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Weaver95: It's pretty clear that at least some of the GOP are taking orders from a hostile foreign county.
I wonder how much longer we're going to pretend that's acceptable?

Until the heat death of the universe.


I invite you to consider the history of America and Russia and ponder the xenophobia between our two cultures. Not to mention how Americans view anyone who sells out to Russia.
 
2022-11-28 7:39:36 AM  
What's passing on the Armed Forces exam again?
 
2022-11-28 7:40:59 AM  

Turbo Cojones: What's passing on the Armed Forces exam again?


Everybody passes. The tests are designed to see what you will fit for a job.
 
2022-11-28 7:41:15 AM  
Did he use phrenology science to determine that Ukrainians could not use complex machines?
 
2022-11-28 7:51:54 AM  
The only test you need for these GOP lawmakers re: Ukraine is this:

Is that what Ukraine wants?
 
2022-11-28 7:53:59 AM  

edmo: I've heard military guys say similar stuff aviation wise. It's the old pump yourself up thing.

The Ukrainians have been kicking ass just fine and are damn smart. They can handle a few extra buttons.


I'd believe it if there was some sort of ground infrastructure that must be built, regardless of training. However, most military gear worth having can operate independently because most stations can be easily targeted.

Still, the fact that aid bills like this will be denied for such flimsy reasons is why us "eeyores" were getting Forest Whitaker eye over calling the election a win.
 
2022-11-28 7:55:15 AM  
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Is this why the weapons are so expensive, because they are so complex?
 
2022-11-28 7:58:29 AM  

johnphantom: Turbo Cojones: What's passing on the Armed Forces exam again?

Everybody passes. The tests are designed to see what you will fit for a job.


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2022-11-28 8:05:17 AM  

Greil: edmo: I've heard military guys say similar stuff aviation wise. It's the old pump yourself up thing.

The Ukrainians have been kicking ass just fine and are damn smart. They can handle a few extra buttons.

I'd believe it if there was some sort of ground infrastructure that must be built, regardless of training. However, most military gear worth having can operate independently because most stations can be easily targeted.

Still, the fact that aid bills like this will be denied for such flimsy reasons is why us "eeyores" were getting Forest Whitaker eye over calling the election a win.


And the reason you keep getting called Eeyores is due to your hyper-focus on one small part of the elections, exactly like you're doing right now.
 
2022-11-28 8:12:42 AM  
They need weapons that simple country farmers can operate.

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2022-11-28 8:12:45 AM  

RasIanI: johnphantom: Turbo Cojones: What's passing on the Armed Forces exam again?

Everybody passes. The tests are designed to see what you will fit for a job.

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Believe it or not, even the Air Force can use men like them.

They work security for mobile, forward radar systems.  The very thing the adversary targets with their own aircraft, artillery, rockets, or special forces.
 
2022-11-28 8:19:05 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: hubiestubert: Dude, they have to be simple enough that a high school dropout with a GED can operate them, because they're designed for Americans.

I think that the Ukraine is doing just fine operating them, which is kind of why the airspace above Ukraine ISN'T thick with Russian jets.

the Ukraine?


It's like THE Ohio State, but on a global scale.
 
2022-11-28 8:23:04 AM  
They seem to be making pretty effective use of them.
 
2022-11-28 8:29:02 AM  
Wait until they find out people who can train the Ukrainians on how to use our weapons systems are being sent there along with the weapons systems themselves.
 
2022-11-28 8:29:12 AM  

Weaver95: Ed Grubermann: Weaver95: It's pretty clear that at least some of the GOP are taking orders from a hostile foreign county.
I wonder how much longer we're going to pretend that's acceptable?

Until the heat death of the universe.

I invite you to consider the history of America and Russia and ponder the xenophobia between our two cultures. Not to mention how Americans view anyone who sells out to Russia.


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2022-11-28 8:36:27 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Weaver95: Ed Grubermann: Weaver95: It's pretty clear that at least some of the GOP are taking orders from a hostile foreign county.
I wonder how much longer we're going to pretend that's acceptable?

Until the heat death of the universe.

I invite you to consider the history of America and Russia and ponder the xenophobia between our two cultures. Not to mention how Americans view anyone who sells out to Russia.

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Hey, let's not be entirely negative here. These guys might favor treason over progress, but they have embraced the love that dare not speak its name, and done so late in life. While their politics may be questionable, can we at least celebrate the love that connects these two men in their Golden Years?
 
2022-11-28 8:40:20 AM  
Remember when electromagnetic catapults on aircraft carriers just confounded TFG?

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/05/28/why-trump-asked-the-wasps-crew-electric-or-steam/
 
2022-11-28 8:40:53 AM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: Sorry to break up Hate-a-palooza but he said no such thing

FTA:
Turner on Sunday said Republicans will make sure that Ukraine "gets what they need," including critical weapons like air defenses after Russia has pounded the country with a wave of missile strikes.
"We need to make certain we work with partners and pull together an air defense system ... to defend Kyiv, to defend their infrastructure," he said.


No, but he was claiming that "democrat" bills were sending 8 bil in aid from a 40 bil bill

Where is his proof
 
2022-11-28 8:42:47 AM  

qorkfiend: Greil: edmo: I've heard military guys say similar stuff aviation wise. It's the old pump yourself up thing.

The Ukrainians have been kicking ass just fine and are damn smart. They can handle a few extra buttons.

I'd believe it if there was some sort of ground infrastructure that must be built, regardless of training. However, most military gear worth having can operate independently because most stations can be easily targeted.

Still, the fact that aid bills like this will be denied for such flimsy reasons is why us "eeyores" were getting Forest Whitaker eye over calling the election a win.

And the reason you keep getting called Eeyores is due to your hyper-focus on one small part of the elections, exactly like you're doing right now.


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Since you seem confused about what this "small part of the election" will mean if the GOP goes full deep with the House.
 
2022-11-28 8:42:54 AM  
Russian assets are saying what now?
 
2022-11-28 8:43:31 AM  
I thought Republicans loved bloated, overpriced military spending packages? They ought to be adoring this stuff.
 
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