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(YouTube)   Man makes a course about an offbeat chess opening called the Trompowsky Attack. Maybe he should put his money where is mouth is and play it against world champ and suspected Sith Lord Magnus Carlsen. Oh wait, he just did   (youtube.com) divider line
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2022-11-27 11:56:01 AM  
Video link didn't work for me, for some reason.

The Trompowski is tricky and has traps to spring on someone unfamiliar with it, but is risky to play against someone who is familiar with it. I have a feeling he didn't find Magnus unprepared.
 
2022-11-27 1:26:06 PM  
This is the moment where the magic happens.
 
2022-11-27 3:37:03 PM  

snowjack: Video link didn't work for me, for some reason.

The Trompowski is tricky and has traps to spring on someone unfamiliar with it, but is risky to play against someone who is familiar with it. I have a feeling he didn't find Magnus unprepared.


The short of it is the Magnus took him off his prep by playing an rare and unusual response. This is usually favors Magnus as he calculate better than most everyone. But Magnus blundered and his opponent did not.  There are not too many people who can beat Magnus even if he blunders so congratulations are in order.
 
2022-11-27 3:45:13 PM  
But did he have butt plug that could receive morse code
 
2022-11-27 4:05:36 PM  

freidog: But did he have butt plug that could receive morse code


That would be Hans Niemann who is the alleged cheater. He is not in the tournament. He will have a hard time getting invitations from now on and the champ won't play him.

I don't think that there is any allegations for the game featured in the vid. The champ simply blundered. I'd would not have realized that it was a blunder without the commentary, but on on their level it was a blunder. And the champ's opponent played good enough to take advantage.
 
2022-11-27 4:05:57 PM  

freidog: But did he have butt plug that could receive morse code


I don't play chess. Nor do I know Morse code. But I do have a... errr, nevermind.
 
2022-11-27 4:14:14 PM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: freidog: But did he have butt plug that could receive morse code

I don't play chess. Nor do I know Morse code. But I do have a... errr, nevermind.


User profile checks out.
 
2022-11-27 5:00:21 PM  
TheMysteriousStranger:

The wireless buttplug thing is hilarious, but it really sounds like sour grapes.
 
2022-11-27 5:05:49 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: snowjack: Video link didn't work for me, for some reason.

The Trompowski is tricky and has traps to spring on someone unfamiliar with it, but is risky to play against someone who is familiar with it. I have a feeling he didn't find Magnus unprepared.

The short of it is the Magnus took him off his prep by playing an rare and unusual response. This is usually favors Magnus as he calculate better than most everyone. But Magnus blundered and his opponent did not.  There are not too many people who can beat Magnus even if he blunders so congratulations are in order.


I'm sure it's only a matter of days before Magnus claims he had magic buttplugs to cheat with.
 
2022-11-27 6:06:33 PM  
What percentage of the public wears butt plugs on a daily basis? If I go to Wal-Mart, how many of the customers do you think are going about their shopping with butt plugs lodged in their rears? Is that a thing?
 
2022-11-27 6:13:35 PM  

leeksfromchichis: TheMysteriousStranger:

The wireless buttplug thing is hilarious, but it really sounds like sour grapes.


Really? I figured it'd sound more like, "bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz".

/ I'll see myself out
 
2022-11-27 6:13:57 PM  
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2022-11-27 6:43:41 PM  

leeksfromchichis: TheMysteriousStranger:

The wireless buttplug thing is hilarious, but it really sounds like sour grapes.


IRC, Magnus merely accused him of cheating while methods was other people's speculation.

In any event, Hans indisputably has a history of cheating so it is hard to feel to sorry for him even if he was innocent that time. And there is good reason to believe he done a lot more cheating than what he has been forced to own up to.
 
2022-11-27 6:44:46 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: leeksfromchichis: TheMysteriousStranger:

The wireless buttplug thing is hilarious, but it really sounds like sour grapes.

IRC, Magnus merely accused him of cheating while methods was other people's speculation.

In any event, Hans indisputably has a history of cheating so it is hard to feel to sorry for him even if he was innocent that time. And there is good reason to believe he done a lot more cheating than what he has been forced to own up to.


IIRC
 
2022-11-27 8:29:32 PM  
The Tournament Website.  Seems like a tournament where people are out to have fun as much as anything, and Carlsen decided to just go crazy in the openings most games.  (In other games he went 1. e3, 1. h3, and a 2 ...h5 against the Sicilian).
 
2022-11-27 8:35:59 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: leeksfromchichis: TheMysteriousStranger:

The wireless buttplug thing is hilarious, but it really sounds like sour grapes.

IRC, Magnus merely accused him of cheating while methods was other people's speculation.

In any event, Hans indisputably has a history of cheating so it is hard to feel to sorry for him even if he was innocent that time. And there is good reason to believe he done a lot more cheating than what he has been forced to own up to.


Probably. But it's just chess and you don't stay at the top forever.  It's less I feel bad for the accused guy as I don't trust accusations without evidence.

Chess is weirdly stressful and iirc, Bobby Fisher? beat a USSR guy by breaking him down mentally. When I heard the butt plug stuff I thought maybe Magnus had cracked too.
 
2022-11-27 8:37:34 PM  

leeksfromchichis: TheMysteriousStranger: leeksfromchichis: TheMysteriousStranger:

The wireless buttplug thing is hilarious, but it really sounds like sour grapes.

IRC, Magnus merely accused him of cheating while methods was other people's speculation.

In any event, Hans indisputably has a history of cheating so it is hard to feel to sorry for him even if he was innocent that time. And there is good reason to believe he done a lot more cheating than what he has been forced to own up to.

Probably. But it's just chess and you don't stay at the top forever.  It's less I feel bad for the accused guy as I don't trust accusations without evidence.

Chess is weirdly stressful and iirc, Bobby Fisher? beat a USSR guy by breaking him down mentally. When I heard the butt plug stuff I thought maybe Magnus had cracked too.


But if the butt stuff didn't come from him, maybe he's sane and the other guy was cheating.
 
2022-11-27 9:20:10 PM  
Magnus seems to have a lot of losses for a world champion
 
2022-11-28 5:41:34 AM  

Fano: Magnus seems to have a lot of losses for a world champion


Longest Winning Streak: World Champion Bobby Fischer - 20 (or 19?) Games

Literally no one wins all the time.  That's why they use ELO ranking for the most part.
 
2022-11-28 1:44:43 PM  

Fano: Magnus seems to have a lot of losses for a world champion



He plays a lot of games, and not all of them are in a serious setting.  According to this, he's played about 1900 serious games, losing 278 of them, and he has played about 2300 exhibition games (often with short time controls or whatever else).  And that probably undercounts it, since a lot of these guys play a ton of online blitz games just for fun.  I'd be willing to bet that Magnus loses in online blitz games against players like Nakamura than real games in tournaments or matches.

Contrast with Capablanca, who played about 700 games and lost 48.  Or Lasker, who held the world championship title longer than anyone while only playing about 650 games and losing 82 of them.  Fischer lost 87 out of 768, and Kasparov lost 108 out of 1531.

There's a lot more competition nowadays.

But yeah, also Magnus just plays a lot more than past champions, in large part because of the internet.

It should say something that he's lost more games than most champions (maybe all of them?), but he's still BY FAR the owner of the highest Elo rating of all time.
 
2022-11-28 2:19:05 PM  

NetOwl: Fano: Magnus seems to have a lot of losses for a world champion


He plays a lot of games, and not all of them are in a serious setting.  According to this, he's played about 1900 serious games, losing 278 of them, and he has played about 2300 exhibition games (often with short time controls or whatever else).  And that probably undercounts it, since a lot of these guys play a ton of online blitz games just for fun.  I'd be willing to bet that Magnus loses in online blitz games against players like Nakamura than real games in tournaments or matches.

Contrast with Capablanca, who played about 700 games and lost 48.  Or Lasker, who held the world championship title longer than anyone while only playing about 650 games and losing 82 of them.  Fischer lost 87 out of 768, and Kasparov lost 108 out of 1531.

There's a lot more competition nowadays.

But yeah, also Magnus just plays a lot more than past champions, in large part because of the internet.

It should say something that he's lost more games than most champions (maybe all of them?), but he's still BY FAR the owner of the highest Elo rating of all time.


Thanks for the info! I don't pay TOO much attention but the impression I get from my Quora feed is that he is an unstoppable juggernaut, the GOAT, etc etc so i was surprised to see he has several losses with words like "blunder" attached. This makes more sense. I guess I was thinking that it was almost like boxing where the greatest players have near undefeated records.
 
2022-11-28 6:04:43 PM  

snowjack: he Trompowski is tricky and has traps to spring on someone unfamiliar with it, but is risky to play against someone who is familiar with it.


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As opposed to other chess strategies, which are always effective no matter how prepared your opponent is.
*thumbs up*
 
2022-11-28 8:14:40 PM  

I Like Bread: snowjack: he Trompowski is tricky and has traps to spring on someone unfamiliar with it, but is risky to play against someone who is familiar with it.

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As opposed to other chess strategies, which are always effective no matter how prepared your opponent is.
*thumbs up*


My point was that the Trompowski is not a conservative opening where pawn structure is carefully used to control strategic areas of the board; it's a tactical opening. Magnus is well known for using the Trompowski himself. Using it against him took big brass ones.
 
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