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2022-11-27 11:51:59 AM  
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2022-11-27 11:55:25 AM  
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2022-11-27 11:56:46 AM  
Ive never eaten a carp. Everybody tells me they are terrible but nobody who says that seems to have ever eaten one. So next time I catch one I will eat it
 
2022-11-27 11:57:35 AM  
It's really too bad they don't' taste good, because they are a plague around here.
 
2022-11-27 11:58:38 AM  
But can it sing?

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2022-11-27 12:00:12 PM  
Besides, it's not the carp of knowledge.

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2022-11-27 12:00:29 PM  
I used to hunt them with a bow then dig a hole in the garden and use them for fertilizer. After a year or two I stopped doing it because their bones and scales didn't break down.
 
2022-11-27 12:06:24 PM  

Interceptor1: I used to hunt them with a bow then dig a hole in the garden and use them for fertilizer. After a year or two I stopped doing it because their bones and scales didn't break down.


So you had carpal tunnel?
 
2022-11-27 12:10:39 PM  

mikaloyd: Ive never eaten a carp. Everybody tells me they are terrible but nobody who says that seems to have ever eaten one. So next time I catch one I will eat it


Many, many years ago, my brother and I caught one on accident. It was huge and we were so proud of ourselves. We begged our father to cook it for us. He seasoned it, wrapped it in foil and through it on the grill for about an our. It was awful! Nothing but bones and scales. We threw it back in the river.
 
2022-11-27 12:11:19 PM  
Middle European ancestry here: Carp is commonly eaten. It is the first course at Shabbos dinners. There are special Christmas recipes in Poland and the Czech Republic. It is often turned into gefillte fish to avoid dealing with the bones. I have friends from Canton whose ancestors came to the US before the Asian exclusion laws; they eat carp all the time, and they claim that chopsticks allow eating around the bones.
Pigs are obviously filthy animals. Have you ever smelled a pig sty? Yet some people eat pig flesh.
 
2022-11-27 12:15:27 PM  
Carp are like seagulls.
You only eat them if you get locked in at the amusement park.
 
2022-11-27 12:18:06 PM  

caljar: It's really too bad they don't' taste good, because they are a plague around here.


Tilapia doesn't taste good either and people eat the fark out of that.
 
2022-11-27 12:25:43 PM  
I stopped at a small restaurant in southern Nebraska that had carp on the menu. First time I've ever seen that. Wasn't curious enough to order it
 
2022-11-27 12:27:27 PM  

mikaloyd: Ive never eaten a carp. Everybody tells me they are terrible but nobody who says that seems to have ever eaten one. So next time I catch one I will eat it


you will be picking and spitting out bones with every bite
 
2022-11-27 12:29:13 PM  

mikaloyd: Ive never eaten a carp. Everybody tells me they are terrible but nobody who says that seems to have ever eaten one. So next time I catch one I will eat it


My lake is full of carp, channel (yellow) and blue catfish, along with bigmouth buffalo.

Blue Cats (between 15 and 24") and carp (about 30") he would cut into steaks and grill. These are fun as heck to catch. Strong. Had to start using 20lb spider and 30lb braided. They would snap 8lb easilly. Others around here smoke the carp. I haven't gotten to use my smoker yet. Problem is, after spring spawn, i only get one or two blues or carp during a 'drinking beer and relaxing on my shore' evening.

Channel cats (4 to 10") are terrible.

Buffalo (about 30") are might be good eating, but i haven't. They are plankton and algae eaters. Hooking them is completely by accident. Kids come around my bay and bow fish for them though. Its nice to see teenage kids spending an afternoon doing something outside, though. They are a non carp native species and are sometimes confused for carp. They swim in schools of 10+ right on top of the water or munching shoreline algae/moss.

The real problem people have with carp is the shiat water quality of the lake or river they catch them in. I have a huge ass marsh, 'the great filter', that feeds my lake which is really a shallow 3000 acre dammed river. Water quality once you filter out the dirt/silt is pretty decent.
 
2022-11-27 12:30:42 PM  
"Bowfishers said they view carp as detrimental, there are too many carp and there is a lack of disposal sites."

I assume catch and release is off the table.
 
2022-11-27 12:32:17 PM  
I only eat uncommon carp.
 
2022-11-27 12:36:41 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: Interceptor1: I used to hunt them with a bow then dig a hole in the garden and use them for fertilizer. After a year or two I stopped doing it because their bones and scales didn't break down.

So you had carpal tunnel?


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2022-11-27 12:37:13 PM  
Responses from bowfishers and rod-and-reel show that both groups have complaints regarding carp in Kansas. Bowfishers said they view carp as detrimental, there are too many carp and there is a lack of disposal sites. Rod-and-reel anglers said there is a lack of regulations, no management focus and a lack of shoreline access.

We wanted the government to plant lots of fish for us, so we can keep floating around on boats spewing gas fumes everywhere. We like to catch  those farmed fish in those big federal and state hatcheries, so that we can pretend that we're wild outdoorsmen and keep paying for fishing licenses.  But we also need the government to build a lot of access points and bathrooms and stuff, so that we don't have to suffer while we're playing Daniel Boone.

And we only want the fish that we want, and due to a change in popular opinion, we don't like carp anymore.  We'd like the government to come in and take care of this, and furthermore, plant some more desirable fish, so that residents of Kansas can float around in their special fat boats for their special fat asses and catch special manufactured and planted fish.  Because they love the OUTDOORS, and it needs to be a part of their life.
 
2022-11-27 12:42:32 PM  

cryinoutloud: Responses from bowfishers and rod-and-reel show that both groups have complaints regarding carp in Kansas. Bowfishers said they view carp as detrimental, there are too many carp and there is a lack of disposal sites. Rod-and-reel anglers said there is a lack of regulations, no management focus and a lack of shoreline access.

We wanted the government to plant lots of fish for us, so we can keep floating around on boats spewing gas fumes everywhere. We like to catch  those farmed fish in those big federal and state hatcheries, so that we can pretend that we're wild outdoorsmen and keep paying for fishing licenses.  But we also need the government to build a lot of access points and bathrooms and stuff, so that we don't have to suffer while we're playing Daniel Boone.

And we only want the fish that we want, and due to a change in popular opinion, we don't like carp anymore.  We'd like the government to come in and take care of this, and furthermore, plant some more desirable fish, so that residents of Kansas can float around in their special fat boats for their special fat asses and catch special manufactured and planted fish.  Because they love the OUTDOORS, and it needs to be a part of their life.


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2022-11-27 12:45:08 PM  

chitownmike: caljar: It's really too bad they don't' taste good, because they are a plague around here.

Tilapia doesn't taste good either and people eat the fark out of that.


I don't know what, but you're doing something wrong.
 
2022-11-27 12:48:03 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Besides, it's not the carp of knowledge.

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2022-11-27 12:50:46 PM  

mikaloyd: Ive never eaten a carp. Everybody tells me they are terrible but nobody who says that seems to have ever eaten one. So next time I catch one I will eat it


I have eaten them. They taste terrible unless you get them live and keep the in clean water for a few days. I think it's called "mudding" in some parts of the US since it removes the muddy taste. The carp in the bathtub is an old tradition among Central and Eastern European Jews and, I would assume, Gentiles from the same areas. As is the small child crying when it discovers the fishie it was playing with is sitting on the dinner plate.
 
2022-11-27 12:52:26 PM  

Target Builder: "Bowfishers said they view carp as detrimental, there are too many carp and there is a lack of disposal sites."

I assume catch and release is off the table.


Correct.  It is a revolting practice.
 
2022-11-27 12:54:26 PM  
They're awful. A friend brought some over to a BBQ at my house and insisted I grill them. Chopped up pieces marinated in kimchi spices. As soon as I put them on the grill, everyone went inside. I had to run a burn cycle and scrub the grill to get the smell out. He meant well, but ugh. He caught them bow-fishing, so that was kinda cool.
 
2022-11-27 1:08:03 PM  
Caught one on a fly rod once by accident.  Thing was like a locomotive to start.  Went right into my backing.  Then it must have found a cozy spot and just parked.  At that point it was like hauling on a log.

A couple of the old Asian guys that fish near me are specifically trying to catch them.  They dump them live into a cooler and take them home. Takes 3-4 days in a tub of water to clean them out. Water is changed regularly.  Then they get eaten.
 
2022-11-27 1:12:50 PM  
I refuse to deal with fish or bird bones.
Not fond of ribs either.
 
2022-11-27 1:19:06 PM  
When I lived in Holland, MI, I would often fish Lake Macatawa. It was good when I caught a carp because although I wouldn't eat it, there was always a Mexican or Asian person nearby who would offer $5 for it when they could see I was going to throw it back. I never charged them.
 
2022-11-27 1:22:54 PM  
Only fish I can tolerate eating are smoked salmon (I cannot / will not eat it any other way), grouper, mahi-mahi and pickled herring.

My wife and kids hate fish and seafood so it's a rare thing for me.
 
2022-11-27 1:27:42 PM  
I love to catch carp. First of, they put up an amazing fight especially if using light tackle. I like to catch one or two a month, cut it up, let it rot a bit and then use the meat as bait for catfish. Works wonders.
 
2022-11-27 1:33:47 PM  
There is a huge problem with carps making underground channels between ponds, leading to soil erosion and contamination. It's called carp pool tunnel syndrome.
 
2022-11-27 1:43:05 PM  
If you want to catch them, use canned corn.

If you want to eat it, boil it, flake it, and make fish balls.
 
2022-11-27 1:55:19 PM  
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Carp?
 
2022-11-27 2:10:03 PM  
Interestingly, the crappie isn't.
 
2022-11-27 2:12:10 PM  
But they're fun as hell to catch, they put up a good fight.
The first fish I ever caught was a 27 inch carp, using red shoestring licorice as bait. I was 12 or 13.
 
2022-11-27 2:12:48 PM  

HailRobonia: There is a huge problem with carps making underground channels between ponds, leading to soil erosion and contamination. It's called carp pool tunnel syndrome.


Booooooo!
;)
 
2022-11-27 2:16:57 PM  

mikaloyd: Ive never eaten a carp. Everybody tells me they are terrible but nobody who says that seems to have ever eaten one. So next time I catch one I will eat it


They are good if you want to make fish dumplings or gefilte fish and they are really good for making fish stock for a homemade Bouillabaisse
 
2022-11-27 2:28:57 PM  

Buckerlin: Pigs are obviously filthy animals. Have you ever smelled a pig sty? Yet some people eat pig flesh.


"Some people"

The only time I've ever heard someone say that is if they have a religious objection to eating pork.
 
2022-11-27 2:40:05 PM  
Is smoked carp still a thing?
 
2022-11-27 2:42:22 PM  

HailRobonia: There is a huge problem with carps making underground channels between ponds, leading to soil erosion and contamination. It's called carp pool tunnel syndrome.


Gotta admit, you had me there.
 
2022-11-27 2:51:41 PM  

fireclown: Target Builder: "Bowfishers said they view carp as detrimental, there are too many carp and there is a lack of disposal sites."

I assume catch and release is off the table.

Correct.  It is a revolting practice.


b-b-but it's Cletus' god-given right to spend $1000 on a special "carp fishing bow" that he can mount on his $20,000 boat & trailer with another $5000 of LED light's installed so it looks like a floating f#cking xmas tree on the water, just for the chance to "shewt-something". All pulled along by his $80,000 coal-rolling pickup.

You gotta hand it to these manufacturers...they sure-as-shiat know their customer-base.
They have no intention of eating it.

/why yes I have the Bass Pro Shops xmas catalog
 
2022-11-27 2:59:04 PM  

Buckerlin: I have friends from Canton whose ancestors came to the US before the Asian exclusion laws; they eat carp all the time, and they claim that chopsticks allow eating around the bones.



You know, with a bit of Marketing MagicTM, that could be turned into the high-cost gourmet experience of eating carp. Just like all those people pay small fortunes for the privilege of picking out the few edible parts of a whole lobster.
 
2022-11-27 3:10:40 PM  
People should seize the day and eat some. Or at least stop carping about it.
 
2022-11-27 3:23:11 PM  
Given all the other fresh water fish--Bass, Trout, even catfish etc... why would anyone fish for Carp? Unless the water quality is so bad. only carp live there.  These are nuisance fish. In Iowa I remember it was illegal to throw them back if you catch them.
 
2022-11-27 3:30:45 PM  

DittoToo: If you want to catch them, use canned corn.

If you want to eat it, boil it, flake it, and make fish balls.


Used to do the same with alligator gar in Louisiana.
 
2022-11-27 3:32:48 PM  

psychosis_inducing: Buckerlin: I have friends from Canton whose ancestors came to the US before the Asian exclusion laws; they eat carp all the time, and they claim that chopsticks allow eating around the bones.


You know, with a bit of Marketing MagicTM, that could be turned into the high-cost gourmet experience of eating carp. Just like all those people pay small fortunes for the privilege of picking out the few edible parts of a whole lobster.


And the San Fransisco treat: dungeness crab.  Walk down Fisherman's Wharf in season and the smell will knock you over.
 
2022-11-27 3:34:34 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Besides, it's not the carp of knowledge.

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This looks like a book that I need.
 
2022-11-27 4:00:57 PM  
My uncle and a couple of his friends took me out fishing for catfish.  At one point on this trip, he caught a carp by accident.  After killing it, he removed the white meat and pressure-cooked it.  It was OK, but there was not very much usable meat on the large fish that way.  I dunno, could people spin "Instant Pot Carp" as a new trendy thing?
 
2022-11-27 4:04:01 PM  
i can tell how white a lot of people are in this thread.
 
2022-11-27 4:14:42 PM  
I lived in Guangzhou for a while and ate a ton of carp.  Ate a lot of skinny steamed chickens, too.
 
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