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(CBC)   The surprising thing isn't that a company would like to pay their employees in gift cards. It's that they APPEALED THE COURT'S DECISION when told to fark off   (cbc.ca) divider line
    More: Facepalm, Employment, Appeal, Dayton Boots, Vancouver's Dayton Boots Company, per cent of employee wages, company owner Eric Hutchingame, subsequent appeal, company gift cards  
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2022-11-27 4:46:38 AM  
If the employees are "required to wear the store's products when at work", wouldn't the company be required to provide them?
 
2022-11-27 6:27:07 AM  
They were BRAND AMBASSADORS not employees!

Now we can see why slavery was so popular for so long and they even fought wars to keep it.
 
2022-11-27 6:58:08 AM  
Hutchingame, as the sole director of Dayton Boots, was personally liable for approximately $556,000 of the amount


LOL
 
2022-11-27 7:04:43 AM  
It's no hot cocoa sampler.
 
2022-11-27 7:20:56 AM  
Oh, like scrip?

That's an old scam.
 
2022-11-27 7:24:37 AM  
You load 16 tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go,
I owe my soul to the company store.
 
2022-11-27 7:37:55 AM  

The Smails Kid: It's no hot cocoa sampler.


I ordered a pair of Dayton Boots. I opened the box and found a polished skull. Weird.
 
2022-11-27 7:46:04 AM  

NotCodger: If the employees are "required to wear the store's products when at work", wouldn't the company be required to provide them?


You can charge for a uniform in the US, but the charge must be at the employer's cost and not retail (like it appears here). And if the product is any good at all, it should last at least a year or two. Here, it sounds like the Scum Bosses were hitting the employees on every paycheck.

This sounds like a company to avoid.
 
2022-11-27 7:55:20 AM  
Let me guess, the same day the "Who wants to donate to the boss' Christmas present?" email went out.

I once worked for a small company where the owner canceled our health insurance "because the economy is so bad" and then bought himself a Ferrari for Christmas.
 
2022-11-27 8:46:11 AM  
Paying minimum wage employees in scrip? They should have been fined into bankruptcy.
 
2022-11-27 8:46:14 AM  

Another Government Employee: NotCodger: If the employees are "required to wear the store's products when at work", wouldn't the company be required to provide them?

You can charge for a uniform in the US, but the charge must be at the employer's cost and not retail (like it appears here). And if the product is any good at all, it should last at least a year or two. Here, it sounds like the Scum Bosses were hitting the employees on every paycheck.

This sounds like a company to avoid.


Went to their site

Their cheapest boot is over 600CA

fark that
 
2022-11-27 8:55:44 AM  
employees had agreed verbally to be paid $600 per week in salary, plus $600 per week in a merchandise credit.

They make $1200 a week working at a shoe store?
 
2022-11-27 8:56:59 AM  
Once again, paying anything in gift cards is top of the list for scam indicators.
 
2022-11-27 8:58:46 AM  
"Brand Ambassadors" are supposed generate press for a company.
 
2022-11-27 8:59:10 AM  
According to tribunal documents, company owner Eric Hutchingame initially explained that Dayton Boots' employees are "required to wear the store's products when at work, so Dayton Boots developed a way for the employer to pay for the cost of the employees' clothing by incorporating it into their pay structure."
The company also claimed employees had agreed verbally to be paid $600 per week in salary, plus $600 per week in a merchandise credit.
Over the course of the investigation and subsequent appeal, the company also argued that the gift cards were never meant to be wages; that the gift cards were paid on top of salary; that the wage statements were erroneous and employees were never meant to receive the gross amount stated; and that it would be unreasonable to require Dayton Boots to pay the amounts shown as deducted as many employees did not work a full 40 hours in a week, according to documents.

So, we have:
1. It was company policy - suddenly, of course, and without warning.
2. The employees agreed to it - verbally, of course, which is why there's no evidence.
3. It wasn't meant to be part of their pay - the fact that they paid taxes on them was, of course, a mistake.
4. It was paid on top of their pay - the fact that they had wage deductions was, of course, a mistake.
5. The wage statements were in error - the fact that they were never corrected and that compensation matched the statements was, of course, a mistake.
6. The employees really didn't work a full week - the fact that I paid them for it then deducted half for gift cards was, of course, a mistake.
7. Now that you caught me ripping them off, half of my employees are "brand ambassadors" and shouldn't be considered employees - the fact that we paid them as employees was, of course, a mistake.

Eric Hutchingame needs to be dragged into a parking lot at 1 AM and beaten with crowbars until no two adjacent bones remain intact.
 
2022-11-27 9:02:54 AM  

abhorrent1: employees had agreed verbally to be paid $600 per week in salary, plus $600 per week in a merchandise credit.

They make $1200 a week working at a shoe store?


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2022-11-27 9:04:44 AM  

Another Government Employee: You can charge for a uniform in the US


My state (Illinois) is really good about this. Work clothing that cannot be considered regular street clothing must be provided by employers at no cost to the employee.
 
2022-11-27 9:15:36 AM  
Seriously, when does Eric Hutchingame get brought before a judge for repeatedly lying about the status and compensation of dozens of employees during an official proceeding?

It's farking shameful how that guy just kept blatantly BS'ing the tribunal each time he was asked, "so, um, why didya break the law?" and walked away with a likely shiat-eating grin each time.
 
2022-11-27 9:52:05 AM  
so this asshole is going to spend $800k in lawyers to stop a $500k payment to his employees?

brilliant.
 
2022-11-27 9:56:15 AM  

SoundOfOneHandWanking: so this asshole is going to spend $800k in lawyers to stop a $500k payment to his employees?

brilliant.


Personal liability. He can happily spend his company's money to keep his own. If his business goes bankrupt? Meh. If he loses half a million bucks, personally? Completely different matter.
 
2022-11-27 10:04:26 AM  
Ah, forcing the sale of company products to employees. Looks like MLM to me. "Welcome to the team! Here's your starter kit and a $500 invoice."
 
2022-11-27 10:08:30 AM  

SoundOfOneHandWanking: so this asshole is going to spend $800k in lawyers to stop a $500k payment to his employees?

brilliant.


Yeah, but if we can legally re-establish company scrip, think of the shareholder value we could achieve!!
 
2022-11-27 10:18:14 AM  

The Smails Kid: It's no hot cocoa sampler.


We aren't talking about Christmas bonuses
 
2022-11-27 10:20:58 AM  
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2022-11-27 10:21:06 AM  

Russ1642: Paying minimum wage employees in scrip? They should have been fined into bankruptcy.


Right, that money should go to the government, not the people who worked.
/you're an idiot
 
2022-11-27 10:27:49 AM  

FormlessOne: Seriously, when does Eric Hutchingame get brought before a judge for repeatedly lying about the status and compensation of dozens of employees during an official proceeding?

It's farking shameful how that guy just kept blatantly BS'ing the tribunal each time he was asked, "so, um, why didya break the law?" and walked away with a likely shiat-eating grin each time.


It's why Progressives want Canadian government laws on the books in the United States (especially in regards to healthcare) but not their businesses.

A good example here would be the Toronto-Dominion takeover of New Jersey based Commerce Bank. Where after they integrated the computer system with their existing TD Banknorth branches, customers were quick to find that any overdraft transactions with their debit card resulted in a $35 per item fee. Also the company switched from Commerce Bank's low-to-high method of doing transactions to the more profitable now-TD Bank's high-to-low transactions so a high transaction coming through would cause multiple overdraft fees. Canadian government is decent, its businesses on the other hand would rip you off for every penny if they could, but with that Canadian charm smile.
 
2022-11-27 10:29:47 AM  

mrmopar5287: Another Government Employee: You can charge for a uniform in the US

My state (Illinois) is really good about this. Work clothing that cannot be considered regular street clothing must be provided by employers at no cost to the employee.


That wouldn't apply to this situation.
 
2022-11-27 10:34:31 AM  

mrmopar5287: abhorrent1: employees had agreed verbally to be paid $600 per week in salary, plus $600 per week in a merchandise credit.

They make $1200 a week working at a shoe store?

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Do people actually believe that though? That's like saying in the 1990's a pack of losers with no steady source of income could afford the gigantic NYC apartment in Friends.
 
2022-11-27 10:37:32 AM  

chitownmike: mrmopar5287: Another Government Employee: You can charge for a uniform in the US

My state (Illinois) is really good about this. Work clothing that cannot be considered regular street clothing must be provided by employers at no cost to the employee.

That wouldn't apply to this situation.


Sure, but if the work clothing is "business casual" they also cannot require you to buy the clothing from their store, or from a specific brand.

Distinctive outfits or accessories, or both, intended to identify the employee with a specific employer shall be considered a uniform. If an employer requires a general type of ordinary basic street clothing to be worn, but permits variations in the detail of dress, this shall not be considered a uniform. However, when an employer requires that an employee purchase street clothes either from the employer or from a third party designated by the employer, the clothing shall be considered a uniform.

If you have to buy their brand to work there, they have to provide it without cost to you.
 
2022-11-27 10:39:02 AM  

NewportBarGuy: That's like saying in the 1990's a pack of losers with no steady source of income could afford the gigantic NYC apartment in Friends.


The explanation given on "Friends" is that Monica was illegally subletting her grandmother's rent-controlled apartment.
 
2022-11-27 10:42:04 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: FormlessOne: Seriously, when does Eric Hutchingame get brought before a judge for repeatedly lying about the status and compensation of dozens of employees during an official proceeding?

It's farking shameful how that guy just kept blatantly BS'ing the tribunal each time he was asked, "so, um, why didya break the law?" and walked away with a likely shiat-eating grin each time.

It's why Progressives want Canadian government laws on the books in the United States (especially in regards to healthcare) but not their businesses.

A good example here would be the Toronto-Dominion takeover of New Jersey based Commerce Bank. Where after they integrated the computer system with their existing TD Banknorth branches, customers were quick to find that any overdraft transactions with their debit card resulted in a $35 per item fee. Also the company switched from Commerce Bank's low-to-high method of doing transactions to the more profitable now-TD Bank's high-to-low transactions so a high transaction coming through would cause multiple overdraft fees. Canadian government is decent, its businesses on the other hand would rip you off for every penny if they could, but with that Canadian charm smile.


As a Canadian with reasonable reading comprehension skills, I have no farking idea what you're going on about here. None. Are you ok?
 
2022-11-27 10:42:41 AM  

mrmopar5287: chitownmike: mrmopar5287: Another Government Employee: You can charge for a uniform in the US

My state (Illinois) is really good about this. Work clothing that cannot be considered regular street clothing must be provided by employers at no cost to the employee.

That wouldn't apply to this situation.

Sure, but if the work clothing is "business casual" they also cannot require you to buy the clothing from their store, or from a specific brand.

Distinctive outfits or accessories, or both, intended to identify the employee with a specific employer shall be considered a uniform. If an employer requires a general type of ordinary basic street clothing to be worn, but permits variations in the detail of dress, this shall not be considered a uniform. However, when an employer requires that an employee purchase street clothes either from the employer or from a third party designated by the employer, the clothing shall be considered a uniform.

If you have to buy their brand to work there, they have to provide it without cost to you.


Had to pay for my company-branded polo shirt when I delivered pizzas in high school. $16 when minimum wage was $3.15.

/kept the shirt when I quit
 
2022-11-27 10:43:14 AM  

abhorrent1: employees had agreed verbally to be paid $600 per week in salary, plus $600 per week in a merchandise credit.

They make $1200 a week working at a shoe store?


Canadian dollars.  They're only redeemable at Tim Hortons.
 
2022-11-27 10:46:50 AM  

Thosw: Had to pay for my company-branded polo shirt when I delivered pizzas in high school. $16 when minimum wage was $3.15.


Oh, I've been through similar stuff.

Worked at an oil change place where some shoe salesman told the boss that any worker's comp claims from slip/fall accidents would be covered by the shoe company as long as employees bought the shoes from them. Came to work one day and was handed a flyer to choose shoes, the cheapest were like $120, and I already had $20 non-slip shoes from Wal-mart. No amount of explaining to the boss would convince him that this shoe company would find a way to weasel out of paying any claims. Was forced to sign a $120 deduction from my paycheck.

Shoes arrived and I promptly called the company, arranged for them to be returned, and they mailed me a check for the return. The boss never once looked at peoples' shoes to verify if we were actually wearing the shoes he told us we had to order.
 
2022-11-27 10:50:32 AM  

Thosw: kept the shirt when I quit


I went through similar stuff with some jobs where I occasionally purchased something that made the job easier.

At Wal-mart in the tire shop, our torque wrench was broken and very inaccurate. I brought my own wrench from home and used it, and allowed a few other people to use it after I verified with them that they knew it was mine and to not beat it up or otherwise treat it like company property.

Upon being fired, I took my torque wrench home. The boss went into a panic about where the torque wrench went and was told that I took it with me when I left. He got police involved for "stolen company property" and it was a huge argument with them. They had no proof it was ever purchased or owned by Wal-mart so it was eventually just dropped.

Similar thing with some cooking implements at a restaurant job. I had a digital meat thermometer we used and when I was fired from that job I took it with me. Again, phone calls and threats about "stolen property" yada yada.
 
2022-11-27 10:55:10 AM  

Emposter: abhorrent1: employees had agreed verbally to be paid $600 per week in salary, plus $600 per week in a merchandise credit.

They make $1200 a week working at a shoe store?

Canadian dollars.  They're only redeemable at Tim Hortons.


I thought they got paid in Canadian Tire money up there?
 
2022-11-27 10:55:39 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: FormlessOne: Seriously, when does Eric Hutchingame get brought before a judge for repeatedly lying about the status and compensation of dozens of employees during an official proceeding?

It's farking shameful how that guy just kept blatantly BS'ing the tribunal each time he was asked, "so, um, why didya break the law?" and walked away with a likely shiat-eating grin each time.

It's why Progressives want Canadian government laws on the books in the United States (especially in regards to healthcare) but not their businesses.

A good example here would be the Toronto-Dominion takeover of New Jersey based Commerce Bank. Where after they integrated the computer system with their existing TD Banknorth branches, customers were quick to find that any overdraft transactions with their debit card resulted in a $35 per item fee. Also the company switched from Commerce Bank's low-to-high method of doing transactions to the more profitable now-TD Bank's high-to-low transactions so a high transaction coming through would cause multiple overdraft fees. Canadian government is decent, its businesses on the other hand would rip you off for every penny if they could, but with that Canadian charm smile.


And then, a little while later, a thing happened and they were forced to refund the overdraft fees.

/had a TD Bank account but I don't remember specifics
//got hit with overdraft fees a few times
///had it all refunded out of nowhere, had closed the TD account because of annoyance at the overdraft fee
 
2022-11-27 10:56:20 AM  

slantsix: DarkSoulNoHope: FormlessOne: Seriously, when does Eric Hutchingame get brought before a judge for repeatedly lying about the status and compensation of dozens of employees during an official proceeding?

It's farking shameful how that guy just kept blatantly BS'ing the tribunal each time he was asked, "so, um, why didya break the law?" and walked away with a likely shiat-eating grin each time.

It's why Progressives want Canadian government laws on the books in the United States (especially in regards to healthcare) but not their businesses.

A good example here would be the Toronto-Dominion takeover of New Jersey based Commerce Bank. Where after they integrated the computer system with their existing TD Banknorth branches, customers were quick to find that any overdraft transactions with their debit card resulted in a $35 per item fee. Also the company switched from Commerce Bank's low-to-high method of doing transactions to the more profitable now-TD Bank's high-to-low transactions so a high transaction coming through would cause multiple overdraft fees. Canadian government is decent, its businesses on the other hand would rip you off for every penny if they could, but with that Canadian charm smile.

As a Canadian with reasonable reading comprehension skills, I have no farking idea what you're going on about here. None. Are you ok?


https://www.investmentexecutive.com/news/industry-news/td-bank-to-acquire-commerce-bancorp/

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/21/td-bank-pays-122-million-dollars-to-settle-claims-bank-used-illegal-overdrafts.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TD_Bank_(United_States)

Here you go, just took a few seconds of googling.
 
2022-11-27 11:02:35 AM  

slantsix: DarkSoulNoHope: FormlessOne: Seriously, when does Eric Hutchingame get brought before a judge for repeatedly lying about the status and compensation of dozens of employees during an official proceeding?

It's farking shameful how that guy just kept blatantly BS'ing the tribunal each time he was asked, "so, um, why didya break the law?" and walked away with a likely shiat-eating grin each time.

It's why Progressives want Canadian government laws on the books in the United States (especially in regards to healthcare) but not their businesses.

A good example here would be the Toronto-Dominion takeover of New Jersey based Commerce Bank. Where after they integrated the computer system with their existing TD Banknorth branches, customers were quick to find that any overdraft transactions with their debit card resulted in a $35 per item fee. Also the company switched from Commerce Bank's low-to-high method of doing transactions to the more profitable now-TD Bank's high-to-low transactions so a high transaction coming through would cause multiple overdraft fees. Canadian government is decent, its businesses on the other hand would rip you off for every penny if they could, but with that Canadian charm smile.

As a Canadian with reasonable reading comprehension skills, I have no farking idea what you're going on about here. None. Are you ok?


Many banks charge an overdraft fee per day. New Canadian bank owners switched it to every time something cause the account to go in the red. Some banks even give you a few days to unfark the chicken. Bank also switched order of withdrawal from account.  Less evil bank does small amounts until you run out and overdraft. Newly Canadian owned bank put through largest first so everything thing after sets you into overdraft, the multiple overdrafts with fees.
Basically a US bank will tell you they're going in dry, a Canadian owned  bank will tell you they're using sand for lube.
 
2022-11-27 11:11:23 AM  

flemardo: slantsix: DarkSoulNoHope: FormlessOne: Seriously, when does Eric Hutchingame get brought before a judge for repeatedly lying about the status and compensation of dozens of employees during an official proceeding?

It's farking shameful how that guy just kept blatantly BS'ing the tribunal each time he was asked, "so, um, why didya break the law?" and walked away with a likely shiat-eating grin each time.

It's why Progressives want Canadian government laws on the books in the United States (especially in regards to healthcare) but not their businesses.

A good example here would be the Toronto-Dominion takeover of New Jersey based Commerce Bank. Where after they integrated the computer system with their existing TD Banknorth branches, customers were quick to find that any overdraft transactions with their debit card resulted in a $35 per item fee. Also the company switched from Commerce Bank's low-to-high method of doing transactions to the more profitable now-TD Bank's high-to-low transactions so a high transaction coming through would cause multiple overdraft fees. Canadian government is decent, its businesses on the other hand would rip you off for every penny if they could, but with that Canadian charm smile.

As a Canadian with reasonable reading comprehension skills, I have no farking idea what you're going on about here. None. Are you ok?

Many banks charge an overdraft fee per day. New Canadian bank owners switched it to every time something cause the account to go in the red. Some banks even give you a few days to unfark the chicken. Bank also switched order of withdrawal from account.  Less evil bank does small amounts until you run out and overdraft. Newly Canadian owned bank put through largest first so everything thing after sets you into overdraft, the multiple overdrafts with fees.
Basically a US bank will tell you they're going in dry, a Canadian owned  bank will tell you they're using sand for lube.


Commerce Bank, up until the takeover (and somewhat afterward until the computer systems were integrated) had it where if you attempted a debit card transaction while the account was overdraft, it would just stop the transaction as there was no money in the account and the only $35 fee would be from any checks that overdrafted (plus Commerce Bank employees would call overdrafted customers to inform that their account was overdraft and tell them to deposit the overdraft amount to avoid the checks being returned NSF). TD Bank stopped the practice of calling customers and just let customers get over their heads with these new $35 fees that kept popping up, plus they never properly informed their employees that this change was occurring, so they were surprised too of what was occurring.
 
2022-11-27 11:23:31 AM  
This is too bad. Dayton boots are some of the best boots in the world.
 
2022-11-27 11:24:07 AM  

flemardo: slantsix: DarkSoulNoHope: FormlessOne: Seriously, when does Eric Hutchingame get brought before a judge for repeatedly lying about the status and compensation of dozens of employees during an official proceeding?

It's farking shameful how that guy just kept blatantly BS'ing the tribunal each time he was asked, "so, um, why didya break the law?" and walked away with a likely shiat-eating grin each time.

It's why Progressives want Canadian government laws on the books in the United States (especially in regards to healthcare) but not their businesses.

A good example here would be the Toronto-Dominion takeover of New Jersey based Commerce Bank. Where after they integrated the computer system with their existing TD Banknorth branches, customers were quick to find that any overdraft transactions with their debit card resulted in a $35 per item fee. Also the company switched from Commerce Bank's low-to-high method of doing transactions to the more profitable now-TD Bank's high-to-low transactions so a high transaction coming through would cause multiple overdraft fees. Canadian government is decent, its businesses on the other hand would rip you off for every penny if they could, but with that Canadian charm smile.

As a Canadian with reasonable reading comprehension skills, I have no farking idea what you're going on about here. None. Are you ok?

Many banks charge an overdraft fee per day. New Canadian bank owners switched it to every time something cause the account to go in the red. Some banks even give you a few days to unfark the chicken. Bank also switched order of withdrawal from account.  Less evil bank does small amounts until you run out and overdraft. Newly Canadian owned bank put through largest first so everything thing after sets you into overdraft, the multiple overdrafts with fees.
Basically a US bank will tell you they're going in dry, a Canadian owned  bank will tell you they're using sand for lube.


Is it actually specifically Canadian owned banks, or just massive banks in general? If this bank was acquired by say, Wells Fargo or BoA, would they be any less assholish?
 
2022-11-27 11:26:02 AM  

abhorrent1: Emposter: abhorrent1: employees had agreed verbally to be paid $600 per week in salary, plus $600 per week in a merchandise credit.

They make $1200 a week working at a shoe store?

Canadian dollars.  They're only redeemable at Tim Hortons.

I thought they got paid in Canadian Tire money up there?


Possibly some kind of cross-promotion.
 
2022-11-27 11:29:15 AM  

FormlessOne: 2. The employees agreed to it - verbally, of course, which is why there's no evidence.


They probably mean "orally" as in a spoken agreement.

Lots of people say "verbal agreement" when they mean written agreement, and that's an accurate statement because "verbally" can mean either written or orally.

Always make the distinction between "orally" as a spoken agreement, and a written agreement. The colloquial use in most places is to say "verbally" and they mean "orally."
 
2022-11-27 11:31:19 AM  
$610,417.68 is 1,221 pairs of shoes if the shoes average $500. With 71 employees, that's 17 pairs of shoes each.

These 71 employees were buying 17 pairs of shoes to go to work at Dayton Boots?
 
2022-11-27 11:36:14 AM  
Csb: when I started my job 5 years ago the grocery store I work at gave holiday bonuses in the form of a $300 store gift cards. Which I instantly had a problem with as we are taxed on that as income. So we lose about $50 in actual spending money to have grocery store credit. That credit doesn't pay bill, the money does. Well I either got through to them or they realized it themselves as the last couple years have been actual cash of the same value. I am just a firm believer that a bonus shouldn't cost you money (especially if the bonus is funnelled back into company sales figures).
 
2022-11-27 11:37:08 AM  
trialpha:Is it actually specifically Canadian owned banks, or just massive banks in general? If this bank was acquired by say, Wells Fargo or BoA, would they be any less assholish?

US banks are now less assholish by law. Financial institutions (FIs) in the US are forbidden from reshuffling the transactions to maximize overdraft fees. It used to be the Wild West when it came to NSFs and banks and credit unions of all sizes were pulling in crazy income in the form of fees.

Canada, in general, has fewer companies providing critical services like insurance, banking and telecom to consumers. As a result, prices and terms are less favorable as compared to US companies. Not sure why, but it's been that way for a long time.
 
2022-11-27 11:37:40 AM  

tjsands1118: Csb: when I started my job 5 years ago the grocery store I work at gave holiday bonuses in the form of a $300 store gift cards. Which I instantly had a problem with as we are taxed on that as income. So we lose about $50 in actual spending money to have grocery store credit. That credit doesn't pay bill, the money does. Well I either got through to them or they realized it themselves as the last couple years have been actual cash of the same value. I am just a firm believer that a bonus shouldn't cost you money (especially if the bonus is funnelled back into company sales figures).


It's a bonus, so it's money you never expected.
 
2022-11-27 11:38:40 AM  

tjsands1118: the last couple years have been actual cash of the same value


You're going to tell me a $300 gift card is taxed as income, but an actual cash bonus is somehow not taxed?
 
2022-11-27 11:49:16 AM  

mrmopar5287: tjsands1118: the last couple years have been actual cash of the same value

You're going to tell me a $300 gift card is taxed as income, but an actual cash bonus is somehow not taxed?


IRS considers gift cards as wages and taxes them the same as receiving cash.

Nice employers will "gross up" the bonus amount so your $500 award is actually $500 in hand. Most employers are not this nice.
 
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