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2022-11-26 9:17:43 PM  
It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. A 110 degree day is uncomfortable but at least easier to counteract if its dry outside. But Qatar will routinely have 110-120 degree days in the summer with 80-90% humidity. Doing any type of physical labor outside, for those not somewhat acclimatizes, is incredibly uncomfortable and occasionally dangerous.
 
2022-11-26 9:27:33 PM  
but is it a dry heat?
 
2022-11-26 9:33:39 PM  

ActionJoe: It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. A 110 degree day is uncomfortable but at least easier to counteract if its dry outside. But Qatar will routinely have 110-120 degree days in the summer with 80-90% humidity. Doing any type of physical labor outside, for those not somewhat acclimatizes, is incredibly uncomfortable and occasionally dangerous.


As someone who has lived many years in Vegas where I've experienced 118 degree days in dry air, and in Florida 95 degrees with humid air, those both feel about equally oppressive.

I cannot imagine 118 degrees with humid air. That sounds terrifying.
 
2022-11-26 9:54:59 PM  
I refuse to take Qatar seriously until they buy them selves a U.
 
2022-11-26 9:59:42 PM  
Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?
 
2022-11-26 10:06:12 PM  

thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?


I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/
 
2022-11-26 10:15:53 PM  
Almost the entire Middle East is hot.
 
2022-11-26 10:17:23 PM  
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2022-11-26 10:18:31 PM  

king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/


That whole Palestinian Israeli quagmire is way too old and bloody to be sorted out by any suggestion of either side moving to anywhere else.  But if we're importing militant conservative religious types who like patrolling borders with guns, Texas is probably the best fit.
 
2022-11-26 10:30:37 PM  

ActionJoe: It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. A 110 degree day is uncomfortable but at least easier to counteract if its dry outside. But Qatar will routinely have 110-120 degree days in the summer with 80-90% humidity. Doing any type of physical labor outside, for those not somewhat acclimatizes, is incredibly uncomfortable and occasionally dangerous.


There's an actual wet bulb temperature limit for humans, and Qatar is probably exceeding it during parts of the year. If the heat is above 100F and you have a humidity level above 60%, you are beyond the limit for the average person's ability to cool themselves off. Sweat won't evaporate fast enough to keep you cool.
 
2022-11-26 10:37:04 PM  

king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/


Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.
 
2022-11-26 10:44:50 PM  

Lsherm: ActionJoe: It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. A 110 degree day is uncomfortable but at least easier to counteract if its dry outside. But Qatar will routinely have 110-120 degree days in the summer with 80-90% humidity. Doing any type of physical labor outside, for those not somewhat acclimatizes, is incredibly uncomfortable and occasionally dangerous.

There's an actual wet bulb temperature limit for humans, and Qatar is probably exceeding it during parts of the year. If the heat is above 100F and you have a humidity level above 60%, you are beyond the limit for the average person's ability to cool themselves off. Sweat won't evaporate fast enough to keep you cool.


I believe the prediction is that by 2070, for half the year the heat during the day throughout the Arabian Peninsula will be lethal. The governments plan to cope with that is to provide free AC.
 
2022-11-26 11:00:56 PM  

thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.


There will be no second coming until the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem.
 
2022-11-26 11:04:25 PM  
Glass parking lot. Nuke those backwards-ass farkwits and take their oil and ugly skyscapers.
 
2022-11-26 11:17:24 PM  
Pump shiat out of the ground, refine it, light it on fire to power the air conditioning you need after pumping too much shiat out of the ground and lighting it on fire.
 
2022-11-26 11:19:26 PM  

thornhill: Lsherm: ActionJoe: It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. A 110 degree day is uncomfortable but at least easier to counteract if its dry outside. But Qatar will routinely have 110-120 degree days in the summer with 80-90% humidity. Doing any type of physical labor outside, for those not somewhat acclimatizes, is incredibly uncomfortable and occasionally dangerous.

There's an actual wet bulb temperature limit for humans, and Qatar is probably exceeding it during parts of the year. If the heat is above 100F and you have a humidity level above 60%, you are beyond the limit for the average person's ability to cool themselves off. Sweat won't evaporate fast enough to keep you cool.

I believe the prediction is that by 2070, for half the year the heat during the day throughout the Arabian Peninsula will be lethal. The governments plan to cope with that is to provide free AC.


I'm wondering how they will provide air conditioning to the migrant slaves folks building Saudi Arabia's 100 mile long city in the desert?
 
2022-11-26 11:24:41 PM  

mistahtom: Pump shiat out of the ground, refine it, light it on fire to power the air conditioning you need after pumping too much shiat out of the ground and lighting it on fire.


it's the ciiiircle of liiiifee...
 
2022-11-27 12:20:36 AM  

thornhill: by 2070, for half the year the heat during the day throughout the Arabian Peninsula will be lethal.


That's going to solve a lot of problems.  Unfortunately, only about 86 million out of 8 billion, but it's a start.
 
2022-11-27 12:28:47 AM  
I'm glad I'll get to see Qatar and Florida ravaged by climate change. At least something good will come out of it.
 
2022-11-27 1:31:45 AM  

thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.


Other than Israel offering endless concessions to the Palestinians to reach a real peace, and them offering NOTHING BUT DEATH TO THE JEWS, sure. You've totally  nailed it.

GFY and your revisionist history.
 
2022-11-27 8:26:47 AM  

Shryke: thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.

Other than Israel offering endless concessions to the Palestinians to reach a real peace, and them offering NOTHING BUT DEATH TO THE JEWS, sure. You've totally  nailed it.

GFY and your revisionist history.


Okay, I'll bite. Endless concessions like the encroaching 'settlements'? The fact that Palestinian land in Israel keeps shrinking over time? Those concessions? Don't quit your day job.
 
2022-11-27 9:04:39 AM  

HempHead: I refuse to take Qatar seriously until they buy them selves a U.


You know, I bet there are always 2 or 3 Qatuars at every furry convention.
 
2022-11-27 10:24:51 AM  

Shryke: thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.

Other than Israel offering endless concessions to the Palestinians to reach a real peace, and them offering NOTHING BUT DEATH TO THE JEWS, sure. You've totally  nailed it.

GFY and your revisionist history.


Every peace proposal has involved the West Bank being sovereign Palestinian territory. Yet, Israel keeps building new settlements in the West Bank -- there are now nearly half a million Israelis living throughout it. The Israelis then use that to argue that they should be able to keep a sizable chunk of the West Bank so that those settlers can remain in Israel because it would just be unfair to force them to leave (the Israeli government has already stopped negotiating over portions of the West Bank and says they will just annex them). As time goes on, more settlements are built, and the amount of land in the West Bank that Israel wants to annex only grows.

This is the very definition of negotiating in bad faith -- decade after decade Israel proposes that the West Bank will be sovereign Palestinian land while they keep building more homes on it and then claim that land for themselves.

Similarly, all peace deals have depended on both sides have split control of East Jerusalem because of its religious importance -- Israel takes the west, Palestinian takes the east. Israel has been systematically adding new settlements in East Jerusalem surrounding the Old City as a justification to annex most of the city (there are now more than 200k Israelis in these settlements). Israel knows that the Palestinians cannot accept a deal without that land, yet they keep putting more settlements on it.
 
2022-11-27 10:33:09 AM  

ActionJoe: It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. A 110 degree day is uncomfortable but at least easier to counteract if its dry outside. But Qatar will routinely have 110-120 degree days in the summer with 80-90% humidity. Doing any type of physical labor outside, for those not somewhat acclimatizes, is incredibly uncomfortable and occasionally dangerous.


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2022-11-27 10:34:02 AM  

king of vegas: ActionJoe: It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. A 110 degree day is uncomfortable but at least easier to counteract if its dry outside. But Qatar will routinely have 110-120 degree days in the summer with 80-90% humidity. Doing any type of physical labor outside, for those not somewhat acclimatizes, is incredibly uncomfortable and occasionally dangerous.

As someone who has lived many years in Vegas where I've experienced 118 degree days in dry air, and in Florida 95 degrees with humid air, those both feel about equally oppressive.

I cannot imagine 118 degrees with humid air. That sounds terrifying.


Might as well be on the hot side of the moon
 
2022-11-27 10:35:32 AM  

thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?


Qatar is a mountain of oil money stolen from middle east people
 
2022-11-27 10:37:03 AM  

king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/


Yea "holy"

Whatever that means.

If its so holy then why do people still shiat there??
 
2022-11-27 10:39:04 AM  

kdawg7736: Almost the entire Middle East is hot.


And theocratic.

But as screwed up as the middle east is politically there are still plenty of bible thumpin repugs in this nation that dont like the separation of church and state
 
2022-11-27 10:40:02 AM  

leeksfromchichis: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

That whole Palestinian Israeli quagmire is way too old and bloody to be sorted out by any suggestion of either side moving to anywhere else.  But if we're importing militant conservative religious types who like patrolling borders with guns, Texas is probably the best fit.


Texass went to hell in a handbasket compared to what it used to be
 
2022-11-27 10:42:22 AM  

Lsherm: ActionJoe: It's not just the heat, it's the humidity. A 110 degree day is uncomfortable but at least easier to counteract if its dry outside. But Qatar will routinely have 110-120 degree days in the summer with 80-90% humidity. Doing any type of physical labor outside, for those not somewhat acclimatizes, is incredibly uncomfortable and occasionally dangerous.

There's an actual wet bulb temperature limit for humans, and Qatar is probably exceeding it during parts of the year. If the heat is above 100F and you have a humidity level above 60%, you are beyond the limit for the average person's ability to cool themselves off. Sweat won't evaporate fast enough to keep you cool.


At 95 F or above wet bulb, the body begins to absorb heat from its surroundings instead of giving it off.

You slowly cook to death.  Not survivable

Aint physics neat!!
 
2022-11-27 10:43:55 AM  

HempHead: thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.

There will be no second coming until the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem.


Man
Jesus does do alot of cumming these days.

I constantly hear abt it in merica
 
2022-11-27 10:44:18 AM  

Linux_Yes: king of vegas: ActionJoe: It

I cannot imagine 118 degrees with humid air. That sounds terrifying.

Might as well be on the hot side of the moon


There is no hot side of the moon. It's all hot.
 
2022-11-27 10:46:21 AM  

king of vegas: Linux_Yes: king of vegas: ActionJoe: It

I cannot imagine 118 degrees with humid air. That sounds terrifying.

Might as well be on the hot side of the moon

There is no hot side of the moon. It's all hot.


Wrong

But i catch the Floyd reference
 
2022-11-27 12:50:56 PM  

Shryke: thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.

Other than Israel offering endless concessions to the Palestinians to reach a real peace, and them offering NOTHING BUT DEATH TO THE JEWS, sure. You've totally  nailed it.

GFY and your revisionist history.


Why don't the Palestinians just stop getting mad at their houses being blown up and their land being taken? It's so silly.
 
2022-11-27 1:38:37 PM  

HempHead: thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.

There will be no second coming until the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem.


So, for sake of discussion...

What about the land is holy?

Is it the buildings? Because we could relocate those.

The sand? How deep? Relocating a few inches of earth wouldn't be easy, but given enough money, we could do it.

Or it is actually the location itself, such that if we shipped out all the buildings and a few inches of earth... The location itself is magical?

In all seriousness... what about the "land" is what they are really fighting over?
 
2022-11-27 3:03:24 PM  

Quantumbunny: HempHead: thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.

There will be no second coming until the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem.

So, for sake of discussion...

What about the land is holy?

Is it the buildings? Because we could relocate those.

The sand? How deep? Relocating a few inches of earth wouldn't be easy, but given enough money, we could do it.

Or it is actually the location itself, such that if we shipped out all the buildings and a few inches of earth... The location itself is magical?

In all seriousness... what about the "land" is what they are really fighting over?


They are fighting over words written thousands of years ago.
 
2022-11-27 3:33:17 PM  

Quantumbunny: HempHead: thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.

There will be no second coming until the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem.

So, for sake of discussion...

What about the land is holy?

Is it the buildings? Because we could relocate those.

The sand? How deep? Relocating a few inches of earth wouldn't be easy, but given enough money, we could do it.

Or it is actually the location itself, such that if we shipped out all the buildings and a few inches of earth... The location itself is magical?

In all seriousness... what about the "land" is what they are really fighting over?


Muhammad ascended to heaven in Jerusalem.

Jerusalem is considered both the religious and ancestral homeland for Jews, buttressed by the fact that it's mentioned in the Hebrew bible nearly one thousand times.*

American evangelical Christians believe that for end times and the return of Jesus to occur, Jews must control Jerusalem and build a third temple there (and then the Jews will all convert to Christianity).

If you're really interested in this, read Lawrence Wright's Thirteen Days in September: Carter, Begin, and Sadat at Camp David. Wright is highly critical of Israel, but also castigates the Palestinian's neighboring countries for selling out the Palestinians for their own interests, and Jimmy Carter for not understanding the dynamics at play (though he believes that Carter was the only U.S. President who attempted to negotiate in good faith with both sides).

*There's a divide among liberal American Jews on this, who are more secular and ok with a compromise because the religious importance of Jerusalem doesn't do much for them because they're not religious. And then that's why you have conservatives like Sheldon Adelson funding Birthright Israel which provides free trips to Israel for young American Jews to indoctrinate them into believing that Israel has an uncontested right to Jerusalem and all of the land in the region.
 
2022-11-27 5:12:17 PM  

thornhill: Quantumbunny: HempHead: thornhill: king of vegas: thornhill: Qatar is the size of like 4 Rhode Island's; maybe we could lease them land in the Dakotas to establish a new nation. How does $200 billion a year sound?

I've had this thought about Israel. Let them relocate to Montana, and give that land back to the Palestinians. It would immediately reduce the global stress-level by a significant factor.

Of course, that land is "holy" I guess. :-/

Exactly. Both sides believe their eternal salvation depends on control of the land. That's why they'll never be peace, and why neither side is interested in peace.

There will be no second coming until the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem.

So, for sake of discussion...

What about the land is holy?

Is it the buildings? Because we could relocate those.

The sand? How deep? Relocating a few inches of earth wouldn't be easy, but given enough money, we could do it.

Or it is actually the location itself, such that if we shipped out all the buildings and a few inches of earth... The location itself is magical?

In all seriousness... what about the "land" is what they are really fighting over?

Muhammad ascended to heaven in Jerusalem.

Jerusalem is considered both the religious and ancestral homeland for Jews, buttressed by the fact that it's mentioned in the Hebrew bible nearly one thousand times.*

American evangelical Christians believe that for end times and the return of Jesus to occur, Jews must control Jerusalem and build a third temple there (and then the Jews will all convert to Christianity).

If you're really interested in this, read Lawrence Wright's Thirteen Days in September: Carter, Begin, and Sadat at Camp David. Wright is highly critical of Israel, but also castigates the Palestinian's neighboring countries for selling out the Palestinians for their own interests, and Jimmy Carter for not understanding the dynamics at play (though he believes that Carter was the only U.S. President who attempted to negotiate in good faith with both sides).

*There's a divide among liberal American Jews on this, who are more secular and ok with a compromise because the religious importance of Jerusalem doesn't do much for them because they're not religious. And then that's why you have conservatives like Sheldon Adelson funding Birthright Israel which provides free trips to Israel for young American Jews to indoctrinate them into believing that Israel has an uncontested right to Jerusalem and all of the land in the region.


My curiosity is more about the logic, the mechanics behind the problem than the political and religious history.

If it really is just the location they squabble over, nuking it, or more politely moving all the land and buildings elsewhere won't solve the problem, because presumably, if you crator it and it floods, they'd build a floatilla or bring in replacement land and then still be fighting over it.

The point of which, of course, is what I'm curious about. If you just have a big raft out there and people living in house boats, does the a new temple count? Would Jesus still come back?

It's kind of like holy artifacts, I get those some people think (or believe) that a fragment of a spear from someone they believe to be Longinus holds magic somehow. But when it's the land itself, that's such a different problem altogether.
 
2022-11-27 5:41:08 PM  

Quantumbunny: My curiosity is more about the logic, the mechanics behind the problem than the political and religious history.

If it really is just the location they squabble over, nuking it, or more politely moving all the land and buildings elsewhere won't solve the problem, because presumably, if you crator it and it floods, they'd build a floatilla or bring in replacement land and then still be fighting over it.

The point of which, of course, is what I'm curious about. If you just have a big raft out there and people living in house boats, does the a new temple count? Would Jesus still come back?

It's kind of like holy artifacts, I get those some people think (or believe) that a fragment of a spear from someone they believe to be Longinus holds magic somehow. But when it's the land itself, that's such a different problem altogether.


The land itself is both culturally and religious sacred because of what happened on it in the past (and for Christian evangelicals, the third temple has to be built there and no where else). If all of the objects on it were destroyed for whatever reasons, nothing would change.

People of various faiths believe that they are in closer proximity to god when they are on that land, and specifically in Jerusalem. And when people believe that about the land, nobody wants to give up any of their land -- no amount of money or other land can compensate for holy land. And that's why the "peace process" goes nowhere.
 
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