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(YouTube)   The Scammer Payback channel usually posts videos showing them taking down scam centres halfway across the world. But this time, they get in their car and drive across town to stop a 69-year-old woman from losing everything   (youtube.com) divider line
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2022-11-26 6:56:32 PM  
I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.
 
2022-11-26 8:57:34 PM  
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2022-11-26 8:58:58 PM  

bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.


There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.
 
2022-11-26 9:03:52 PM  
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2022-11-26 9:10:49 PM  
Does this have that "too good to be true" vibe for anyone else? Maybe I'm just used to too many viral marketing ploys.
 
2022-11-26 9:15:28 PM  

bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.


Almost like they're on the take...
 
2022-11-26 9:17:44 PM  

Summoner101: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

Almost like they're on the take...


Especially in India where a lot of these scams originate.
 
2022-11-26 9:17:55 PM  

redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.


True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.
 
2022-11-26 9:18:34 PM  

untoldforce: Does this have that "too good to be true" vibe for anyone else? Maybe I'm just used to too many viral marketing ploys.


You make an excellent point. I can't argue it.
I want to believe they are the good guys. To keep my sanity, I need to keep thinking there are heroes out there.
 
2022-11-26 9:19:21 PM  

untoldforce: Does this have that "too good to be true" vibe for anyone else? Maybe I'm just used to too many viral marketing ploys.


Scammer Payback and other scambaiting channels have been doing things like this for years, ranging from impersonating potential victims (and thus keeping the scammers busy so they can't scam real victims) to hacking the call centers and interrupting scams in progress.  Usually, they try to interrupt the scam in progress by calling the victim, but if anything, it was only a matter of time until they intercepted a scam that happened to take place in their own city.
 
2022-11-26 9:23:52 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.


Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.
 
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2022-11-26 9:27:09 PM  

anfrind: untoldforce: Does this have that "too good to be true" vibe for anyone else? Maybe I'm just used to too many viral marketing ploys.

Scammer Payback and other scambaiting channels have been doing things like this for years, ranging from impersonating potential victims (and thus keeping the scammers busy so they can't scam real victims) to hacking the call centers and interrupting scams in progress.  Usually, they try to interrupt the scam in progress by calling the victim, but if anything, it was only a matter of time until they intercepted a scam that happened to take place in their own city.


Yep I was a member on 419Eater.com forums for a few years in the early 2000s. They pretty much invented the concept
 
2022-11-26 9:27:55 PM  
By the way, if anyone wants to see what happens when scambaiters interact with police, there's a video from Trilogy Media from about a week ago where they sent a decoy package to a money mule, and when they went to confront the mule face-to-face, they found another package from a real victim and had to call the local police.

HUNTING A SCAMMER WITH COPS (CASH SEIZED)
Youtube pV9O7cE9JvM

The video is about an hour long, but if you have the time, it's well worth watching.
 
2022-11-26 9:30:15 PM  

shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.


You should become a cop and fix all the problems you just addressed. I bet you'll clean it all right up. In the mean time police departments will continue prioritizing crime, and allocating resources accordingly. As outlined in the very Boobies in this thread.
 
2022-11-26 9:31:32 PM  

bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.


YouTube dudes have the option to pick and choose how much, what, and where they do what they do.  Law enforcement has a whole slew of shiat to pay attention to.  Not claiming they're the bestest or what have you, but there's a serious difference between "We help who we want when we want" and "We're tasked with helping everybody all the time."
 
2022-11-26 9:31:48 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.

You should become a cop and fix all the problems you just addressed. I bet you'll clean it all right up. In the mean time police departments will continue prioritizing crime, and allocating resources accordingly. As outlined in the very Boobies in this thread.


I guess randomly switching words with "Boobies" is a thing now on Fark.
 
2022-11-26 9:33:23 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.

You should become a cop and fix all the problems you just addressed. I bet you'll clean it all right up. In the mean time police departments will continue prioritizing crime, and allocating resources accordingly. As outlined in the very Boobies in this thread.


So what's the budget allocated to sprinkle crack on dead black guys?
 
2022-11-26 9:35:23 PM  

Fano: ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.

You should become a cop and fix all the problems you just addressed. I bet you'll clean it all right up. In the mean time police departments will continue prioritizing crime, and allocating resources accordingly. As outlined in the very Boobies in this thread.

So what's the budget allocated to sprinkle crack on dead black guys?


About as much as a cop getting their dick sucked in the squad car while on duty.
 
2022-11-26 9:36:36 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.

You should become a cop and fix all the problems you just addressed. I bet you'll clean it all right up. In the mean time police departments will continue prioritizing crime, and allocating resources accordingly. As outlined in the very Boobies in this thread.

I guess randomly switching words with "Boobies" is a thing now on Fark.


Fark user image
 
2022-11-26 9:39:55 PM  

New Rising Sun: ImmutableTenderloin: ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket:

I guess randomly switching words with "Boobies" is a thing now on Fark.

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When a newb hits the filters right in the, well, you know...
 
2022-11-26 9:40:22 PM  
I confess, I want an ending scene like something out of Cops with the scammer trying to run away, randomly opening somebody's gate to get in their backyard, being face to face with a slobbering, growling Rottweiler, screaming and trying to crawl back over the gate, the rottweiler latching on to a back pocket and a bit of backside tearing the scammers shorts off his ass, having him tumble over the gate, his arm reaching out to break his fall and his forearm snapping in half with the bizarre appearance of a new wrist halfway between wrist and elbow except with a shard of bone sticking out, a eerie howl of pain and horror as he looks at his wrist, his pursuers within feet, multiple cameras rolling, his shorts about his ankles, his ass bleeding from a dog bite, and the growing sound of sirens with flashing blue and red lights beginning to illuminate the scene, the screams of pain evolving into whining blubbering.

Is that too much to ask for?
 
2022-11-26 9:43:13 PM  

wademh: I confess, I want an ending scene like something out of Cops with the scammer trying to run away, randomly opening somebody's gate to get in their backyard, being face to face with a slobbering, growling Rottweiler, screaming and trying to crawl back over the gate, the rottweiler latching on to a back pocket and a bit of backside tearing the scammers shorts off his ass, having him tumble over the gate, his arm reaching out to break his fall and his forearm snapping in half with the bizarre appearance of a new wrist halfway between wrist and elbow except with a shard of bone sticking out, a eerie howl of pain and horror as he looks at his wrist, his pursuers within feet, multiple cameras rolling, his shorts about his ankles, his ass bleeding from a dog bite, and the growing sound of sirens with flashing blue and red lights beginning to illuminate the scene, the screams of pain evolving into whining blubbering.

Is that too much to ask for?


How about a video of a money mule being caught by the police after opening a Mark Rober glitterbomb that she thought contained cash from a victim?

Glitterbomb Trap Catches Phone Scammer (who gets arrested)
Youtube VrKW58MS12g
 
2022-11-26 9:47:13 PM  

asymptonic: New Rising Sun: ImmutableTenderloin: ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket:

I guess randomly switching words with "Boobies" is a thing now on Fark.

[Fark user image 195x43]

When a newb hits the filters right in the, well, you know...


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2022-11-26 9:51:16 PM  

shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.


That wouldn't do anything to work towards the goal of eroding public trust in the police until the people are fine with replacing it with brown shirts and/or mafia.
 
2022-11-26 10:22:25 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.


That's always their excuse for not doing their job.   No matter how much money you give the police, they always insist they need more when they fail to show any improvement.  Fark the police and their petty whining.
 
2022-11-26 10:24:28 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Law enforcement has a whole slew of shiat to pay attention to.


And they always choose whatever generates the most revenue, not what crimes cause the most harm to the innocent victims.  Stop giving cops excuses for failing to do their damn job.
 
2022-11-26 10:38:56 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.

You should become a cop and fix all the problems you just addressed. I bet you'll clean it all right up. In the mean time police departments will continue prioritizing crime, and allocating resources accordingly. As outlined in the very Boobies in this thread.

I guess randomly switching words with "Boobies" is a thing now on Fark.


Randomly?

You've been on Fark for three years and never noticed that  "first" followed by the word "post" gets filtered?

Not very observant, are you?

Now let's see if I get boobied
 
2022-11-26 10:53:32 PM  

bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.


Yeah it does kind of stink. Too bad she isn't lucky enough to be a child that's forced to work in a mine for shiney rocks under constant threat of dismemberment. Those guys have all the luck and great benefits.

Tis the season for shiney rocks.
 
2022-11-26 10:56:47 PM  

untoldforce: Does this have that "too good to be true" vibe for anyone else? Maybe I'm just used to too many viral marketing ploys.


Look buddy, cracking on the wastefulness of billions devoted to launching future weapons into space needs to be done for reasons. Get off your high horse.

Hey! I just thought of a name for you...
High horse.
 
2022-11-26 11:11:49 PM  

wademh: I confess, I want an ending scene like something out of Cops with the scammer trying to run away, randomly opening somebody's gate to get in their backyard, being face to face with a slobbering, growling Rottweiler, screaming and trying to crawl back over the gate, the rottweiler latching on to a back pocket and a bit of backside tearing the scammers shorts off his ass, having him tumble over the gate, his arm reaching out to break his fall and his forearm snapping in half with the bizarre appearance of a new wrist halfway between wrist and elbow except with a shard of bone sticking out, a eerie howl of pain and horror as he looks at his wrist, his pursuers within feet, multiple cameras rolling, his shorts about his ankles, his ass bleeding from a dog bite, and the growing sound of sirens with flashing blue and red lights beginning to illuminate the scene, the screams of pain evolving into whining blubbering.

Is that too much to ask for?


Sounds like one of the last scenes of Ferris Bueler's Day Off.
 
2022-11-26 11:33:02 PM  

OgreMagi: And they always choose whatever generates the most revenue, not what crimes cause the most harm to the innocent victims.  Stop giving cops excuses for failing to do their damn job.


Cops don't decide how much money they get to spend, city councils do. They have to spread that funding over the entire department, and most of the money goes to uniform patrol, and secondly to investigations.

No, they don't choose what generates the most revenue. Most departments have woefully underfunded traffic bureaus. It just happens those are the most visible cops on the department.
 
2022-11-26 11:33:25 PM  

OgreMagi: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Law enforcement has a whole slew of shiat to pay attention to.

And they always choose whatever generates the most revenue, not what crimes cause the most harm to the innocent victims.  Stop giving cops excuses for failing to do their damn job.


It's not an excuse Ogre, it's a simple statement of reality.  People that operate to help those they select themselves, in their own time, to the point they want to - they're going to do way better than X department that's trying to help 250 people at once, especially when they're only staffed to help way less than that at any given time .  If you're going to yell at people for not helping, then if you're gonna be fair about it you better include all the people those YouTubers didn't help.  At the exact same time I'm sure plenty of other people needed help in the same situations or worse, why they no help them???  That's what the official types deal with.  All 250 want help right the fark now and the best help available.  Joe Youtuber can help the hell out of 10 of them, probably do a pristine job too.  X Department of Unfarkery is required to attempt to help all 250 regardless of staffing or capability, and expected to provide that pristine level of assistance to all of them.  Both groups can help, Joe YouTube has a WAY farking easier job because they're not overburdened unless they choose to be, and they can schedule as much time as they need with each individual to provide that level of service.  In an official organization - you farking cannot.  Not fort the number of problems.  No one is willing to hire enough people or pay the money to do that on a full organizational level

It's akin to comparing serial killer FBI investigator specialists and their assistants that focus on one guy and his crimes and catch him vs. a police department that has 212 other things to work on.  Why aren't they as fast as the team with their one case and all their attention on it?  Hmmmmm

/TLDR?  Yes, officialdom sucks compared to Joe Blow giving you all their time and attention
//officialdom is also overworked as hell and underbudget as hell, and has to try to provide services for 25 people for every one Joe YouTube helps - by law
///if Joe had to spread his time and effort over 25X the people, he'd be a lot suckier at it too
////sure, a lot of cops are dicks - that doesn't invalidate the fact that there's a gigantic problem comparing them with people that can 1 on 1 and take their time all they like
 
2022-11-26 11:36:49 PM  

bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.


I'm glad they're out there too, and agree there needs to be more work done by various law enforcement agencies (local and federal).  But quite a bit of the stuff they do to get inside the scammers' systems is not stuff you want law enforcement doing.  Too ripe for abuse, particularly with the current batch.
 
2022-11-26 11:38:41 PM  
"So what's the budget allocated to sprinkle crack on dead black guys?"

'About as much as a cop getting their dick sucked in the squad car while on duty'


In my city they spent over a year using their Undercover Squad investigating bikini baristas every morning.

Eventually they found a nipple or something
 
2022-11-26 11:40:40 PM  

untoldforce: Does this have that "too good to be true" vibe for anyone else?


Just you. Perogi & the boys are the genuine article. If this was their first venture then I'd agree with you, but they've been doing this for years and this situation was as new for them as it was for you.

Indian call centre employees are scum. And what's worse is they know exactly what they're doing and why. I've dealt with these coints on several occasions myself and they're heartless drones, not giving the slightest jot about any possible real-world hardship their marks might have, they just want the cash.
 
2022-11-27 12:01:35 AM  

redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.


Not to mention the glamour shots.

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2022-11-27 12:57:26 AM  

redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.


It's not just that (but it's definitely partly that). How are the American local fuzz supposed to deal with thieves in India?

Because however much American cops care, Indian authorities care less.
 
2022-11-27 12:59:22 AM  

ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.


or you know...that whole "defund the police" thing brought to you by OCP
 
2022-11-27 1:00:47 AM  

shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.


The time to do that would have been 15 years ago, when the FBI reported that Nazis were infiltrating law enforcement.

Now that the Nazis have graduated from beat cop to police captain, good luck cutting that cancer out.
 
2022-11-27 1:17:34 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

YouTube dudes have the option to pick and choose how much, what, and where they do what they do.  Law enforcement has a whole slew of shiat to pay attention to.  Not claiming they're the bestest or what have you, but there's a serious difference between "We help who we want when we want" and "We're tasked with helping everybody all the time."


They are?
 
2022-11-27 1:18:31 AM  

ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.


By which you mean, "the highest number of sworn officers for any measured year except 2013", right?
 
2022-11-27 1:53:02 AM  

redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.


I was trying to buy a motorcycle and it turned out to be a scam. Lots of clues. Guy said the bike was in North Carolina, but picture had palm trees. Said he wanted to use a certain company for transport but when I went to that company website, on the main page they said "We do not transport motorcycles". Lots of weird grammer use, ect.
Guy obviously wanted a credit card, but I convinced him I could only send a check.  After much hesitation, he gave me a address to send it to (in farking Missouri). Google showed the address to be some place in the middle of nowhere.
But now that I had an address, and he was wanting a check, that's mail fraud. Surely that's worth someone's time. Local cops said not their problem, to call the cops where the address was.  I called them that said it wasn't their problem, despite that it might be a drop house where the resident was scammed to resend packages to them, they didn't care that one of their residents was either a scammer or getting scammed.
I thought maybe the FBI, since mail fraud. Nope. They said "if you know it's a scammer, then why even talk to him? This isn't worth our time. "

No one gives a shiat
 
2022-11-27 5:26:32 AM  

MythDragon: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

I was trying to buy a motorcycle and it turned out to be a scam. Lots of clues. Guy said the bike was in North Carolina, but picture had palm trees. Said he wanted to use a certain company for transport but when I went to that company website, on the main page they said "We do not transport motorcycles". Lots of weird grammer use, ect.
Guy obviously wanted a credit card, but I convinced him I could only send a check.  After much hesitation, he gave me a address to send it to (in farking Missouri). Google showed the address to be some place in the middle of nowhere.
But now that I had an address, and he was wanting a check, that's mail fraud. Surely that's worth someone's time. Local cops said not their problem, to call the cops where the address was.  I called them that said it wasn't their problem, despite that it might be a drop house where the resident was scammed to resend packages to them, they didn't care that one of their residents was either a scammer or getting scammed.
I thought maybe the FBI, since mail fraud. Nope. They said "if you know it's a scammer, then why even talk to him? This isn't worth our time. "

No one gives a shiat


Scam them back. May be fun. Turn the tables on them somehow. Say you want in on the scam, then blackmail or something.
 
2022-11-27 6:08:50 AM  

scanman61: ImmutableTenderloin: ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.

You should become a cop and fix all the problems you just addressed. I bet you'll clean it all right up. In the mean time police departments will continue prioritizing crime, and allocating resources accordingly. As outlined in the very Boobies in this thread.

I guess randomly switching words with "Boobies" is a thing now on Fark.

Randomly?

You've been on Fark for three years and never noticed that  "first" followed by the word "post" gets filtered?

Not very observant, are you?

Now let's see if I get boobied


show him the password trick next.
 
2022-11-27 9:04:53 AM  

LiberalConservative: MythDragon: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

I was trying to buy a motorcycle and it turned out to be a scam. Lots of clues. Guy said the bike was in North Carolina, but picture had palm trees. Said he wanted to use a certain company for transport but when I went to that company website, on the main page they said "We do not transport motorcycles". Lots of weird grammer use, ect.
Guy obviously wanted a credit card, but I convinced him I could only send a check.  After much hesitation, he gave me a address to send it to (in farking Missouri). Google showed the address to be some place in the middle of nowhere.
But now that I had an address, and he was wanting a check, that's mail fraud. Surely that's worth someone's time. Local cops said not their problem, to call the cops where the address was.  I called them that said it wasn't their problem, despite that it might be a drop house where the resident was scammed to resend packages to them, they didn't care that one of their residents was either a scammer or getting scammed.
I thought maybe the FBI, since mail fraud. Nope. They said "if you know it's a scammer, then why even talk to him? This isn't worth our time. "

No one gives a shiat

Scam them back. May be fun. Turn the tables on them somehow. Say you want in on the scam, then blackmail or something.


I did convince the guy I could only send a check COD, and I was going to make him pay to get it (but not a check, obviously. Probably a photocopy of my nuts). but as I thought of it, the address was probably some old lady he scammed to resend packages. It looked like a farm  house
 
2022-11-27 10:43:22 AM  

bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.


They're not "doing a better job". They make millions selecting a small sub-section of crime, in which they make money creating entertainment on YouTube, which only incidentally involves baiting scammers.

YouTubers aren't heroes. They're making gobs of money. They pick and choose what to focus on. There's nothing in common between them and actual law enforcement. If you had to rely on these guys for justice, you would be horribly disappointed and disillusioned.
 
2022-11-27 11:09:07 AM  

redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.


And yet youtubers are making a living off it and we have a headlines on fark.

Absolutely no money in it and no headlines!
 
2022-11-27 12:15:01 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: shinji3i: ImmutableTenderloin: redbucket: bloobeary: I'm glad they're out there to help keep people from being scammed, but it kind of stinks that a group of guys on youtube are doing a far better job of it than all of the law enforcement in the entire g*d*amned world.

There's no money in stopping these scams. Writing speeding tickets brings in the cash, arresting murderers brings the headlines. This is right up there on the priority list with solving a home robbery or developing relationships with a minority neighborhood.

True, but also police headcount has been down for sometime now. They are doing more with less, which comes with prioritizing resources. Something to do with people not wanting to be cops or some such.

Have they considered the whole "developing relations with a minority neighborhood" thing? Maybe work on rooting out the white supremacists in their ranks? Or hold their own accountable when they break policy/laws? Plenty of people like to serve their community but don't become a cop because cops quite clearly don't serve their community.

You should become a cop and fix all the problems you just addressed. I bet you'll clean it all right up. In the mean time police departments will continue prioritizing crime, and allocating resources accordingly. As outlined in the very Boobies in this thread.


I have yet to see any liberals say they will become good cops or organize to recruit cops amongst themselves.  It's not how they keep the victimhood going.
 
2022-11-27 12:33:46 PM  

CruiserTwelve: OgreMagi: And they always choose whatever generates the most revenue, not what crimes cause the most harm to the innocent victims.  Stop giving cops excuses for failing to do their damn job.

Cops don't decide how much money they get to spend, city councils do. They have to spread that funding over the entire department, and most of the money goes to uniform patrol, and secondly to investigations.

No, they don't choose what generates the most revenue. Most departments have woefully underfunded traffic bureaus. It just happens those are the most visible cops on the department.


Ahhahahahhahaha!  Right.  What a bootlicker you are.  In every major city, traffic enforcement is a revenue-generating sector, and thus one of the BEST funded of any department.  My city's (Boston) traffic dept has only grown while others like "vice" downsized in anticipation of legal weed.  Hell, just a few months ago they fired 7 cops here for writing tickets while off duty. $60 Million a year is what Boston traffic enforcement brings in, and I doubt that includes the Staties, who are equally corrupt as fark.

You're just lying through your farking teeth right there.

You know how many departments could tighten belts and still hire more folks?  De-militarization.  Dump all the "elite" and expensive SWAT squads (And their pricy toys and motor pool service), overused because they're overstaffed and leading to more lawsuits than any other department in a city government, and put that into uniformed patrol, fraud, and community outreach.
 
2022-11-27 12:56:50 PM  
Back in 20008ish I was helping an elderly client resolve an email issue and I noticed a very obvious dialog with a Nigerian scammer (419), I brought it up to the client and discovered he was heading to WU that day to send funds to the scammer. I showed him the 419 eater site, a handful of other websites detailing the scam and he simply accused me (loudly) of being jealous he was chosen for the financial windfall.

He came in a few months later for a different computer issue, recognized me and told me he lost close to 60 grand in multiple transactions before pulling out of the scam.

"I'm sorry to hear that, how can I help today?"
 
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