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2022-11-26 2:47:40 PM  
there will be much rejoicing

/dnrtfa
 
2022-11-26 2:48:15 PM  
There will be much rejoicing.
Until Margerine Traitor Groan is.
 
2022-11-26 3:11:31 PM  
He's boasting all the MAGA talking points to try and convince them to vote for him.
 
2022-11-26 3:12:39 PM  
Oh no.

Anyway....
 
2022-11-26 3:15:46 PM  
Every time I see the name "Kevin McCarthy" my mind substitutes "Kevin McCallister" (the name of the kid character from Home Alone) and I'm momentarily confused and amused. Then I realize the mistake and sigh.

/lame story, bro, I know.
 
2022-11-26 3:16:58 PM  
McCarthy assumes he is owed the job because he's been tenacious and loyal, but he's held back by a couple big practical problems: It is well known that, to put it as politely as I'm inclined to, he is not terribly bright and he has a reputation for being more of a weather-vane than a leader.

I have a feeling that he's been allowed to continue in his current role as a place-holder while the cleverer Republicans (there are some, I am told) try and figure out where the GOP is vis-a-vis Señor Trump. McCarthy thinks he's in his current position thanks to his merits, but, as many people besides me have noted, he's something of a dumbass.
 
2022-11-26 3:25:01 PM  

aaronx: McCarthy assumes he is owed the job because he's been tenacious and loyal, but he's held back by a couple big practical problems: It is well known that, to put it as politely as I'm inclined to, he is not terribly bright and he has a reputation for being more of a weather-vane than a leader.

I have a feeling that he's been allowed to continue in his current role as a place-holder while the cleverer Republicans (there are some, I am told) try and figure out where the GOP is vis-a-vis Señor Trump. McCarthy thinks he's in his current position thanks to his merits, but, as many people besides me have noted, he's something of a dumbass.


So let them vote for Mitch McKoopa as Speaker.  They can do that, right?
 
2022-11-26 3:28:11 PM  

null: aaronx: McCarthy assumes he is owed the job because he's been tenacious and loyal, but he's held back by a couple big practical problems: It is well known that, to put it as politely as I'm inclined to, he is not terribly bright and he has a reputation for being more of a weather-vane than a leader.

I have a feeling that he's been allowed to continue in his current role as a place-holder while the cleverer Republicans (there are some, I am told) try and figure out where the GOP is vis-a-vis Señor Trump. McCarthy thinks he's in his current position thanks to his merits, but, as many people besides me have noted, he's something of a dumbass.

So let them vote for Mitch McKoopa as Speaker.  They can do that, right?


They could. There's no requirement that the speaker be a member of the House of Reprehensibles.
 
2022-11-26 3:38:42 PM  

dionysusaur: null: aaronx: McCarthy assumes he is owed the job because he's been tenacious and loyal, but he's held back by a couple big practical problems: It is well known that, to put it as politely as I'm inclined to, he is not terribly bright and he has a reputation for being more of a weather-vane than a leader.

I have a feeling that he's been allowed to continue in his current role as a place-holder while the cleverer Republicans (there are some, I am told) try and figure out where the GOP is vis-a-vis Señor Trump. McCarthy thinks he's in his current position thanks to his merits, but, as many people besides me have noted, he's something of a dumbass.

So let them vote for Mitch McKoopa as Speaker.  They can do that, right?

They could. There's no requirement that the speaker be a member of the House of Reprehensibles.


I think it fails on the requirement that nobody can hold more than one elected office at a time and that the Speaker is technically an office elected by the majority of the House.

Nobody tell them this however, they might fall for it and doom the Turtle.
 
2022-11-26 3:41:42 PM  
null:

I see a flaw in your logic. To date all Speakers were elected to some office AND the Speakership.
 
2022-11-26 3:44:19 PM  
Then my schadenfreude boner will need to be monitored in the event it lasts more than four hours.
 
2022-11-26 3:47:14 PM  
All I really know for sure about this choad is that he lied about having Nancy Pelosi fired.
 
2022-11-26 4:06:46 PM  
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2022-11-26 4:07:13 PM  
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/ not really
// the next two years will be obstructive, performative nonsense, regardless
/// leadership candidates are chasing a greased pig to win a bucket of rancid puss
 
2022-11-26 4:08:48 PM  

aaronx: as many people besides me have noted, he's something of a dumbass.


That's Republican for "overqualified"...
 
2022-11-26 4:09:24 PM  
Then someone else will be.
 
2022-11-26 4:12:05 PM  
If he can't get 218 votes, I don't know who can.
 
2022-11-26 4:18:59 PM  
Wbas it all a shiat show before we could see what all is going on, or is it just a shiat show now, because they know we are all watching?
 
2022-11-26 4:22:18 PM  
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2022-11-26 4:50:48 PM  

Ambivalence: If he can't get 218 votes, I don't know who can.


At this point Nixon, Reagan, and Jesus all wouldn't get more than half of the GQP behind any of them.
 
2022-11-26 5:27:54 PM  

vudukungfu: Wbas it all a shiat show before we could see what all is going on, or is it just a shiat show now, because they know we are all watching?


Yes.
 
2022-11-26 5:36:29 PM  

This has been Gubbo does drunk history: Then someone else will be.


The l00neys won't vote for a straight because the straights don't believe what the lo0neys believe.

The straights won't vote for a l0on3y because they can't be leashed.

The refuses to work. Now what?
 
2022-11-26 5:37:59 PM  
The math refuses to work. Now what?

FTFM.
 
2022-11-26 6:08:08 PM  
It's going to be summer of 2023 before anyone is elected Speaker, and maybe not even then.
 
2022-11-26 6:10:09 PM  
He'll throw a screaming hissy fit.
 
2022-11-26 6:41:48 PM  

OdradekRex: He'll throw a screaming hissy fit.


As opposed to any other day ending in 'y'?
 
2022-11-26 6:44:09 PM  
"And then the murders begin...."
 
2022-11-26 6:44:43 PM  
Ok, help me out here: I recalled reading a blurb about House Rep. getting Democratic support if the candidate for House Speaker is more moderate but if the GOP holds the House how is that possible?
 
2022-11-26 6:51:38 PM  
Depends on who does get the vote.  Could be better, could be much, much worse.
 
2022-11-26 6:53:23 PM  

Rwa2play: Ok, help me out here: I recalled reading a blurb about House Rep. getting Democratic support if the candidate for House Speaker is more moderate but if the GOP holds the House how is that possible?


The Dems only need a handful of "moderate" Repubs to elect a more moderate Speaker.  Trouble being those Repubs would automatically be primaried.
 
2022-11-26 6:54:01 PM  
Democrats can trigger MAGA by electing Kevin McCarthy with a few RINOs.
 
2022-11-26 6:54:19 PM  

Rwa2play: Ok, help me out here: I recalled reading a blurb about House Rep. getting Democratic support if the candidate for House Speaker is more moderate but if the GOP holds the House how is that possible?


What?

A House R could get the votes for Speaker from the Dems and like 4 of their non-nutcase brethren, but they'd need to be able to offer the D's something to get those votes, regardless of who actually holds the House.  All that matters is getting 218 House votes.
 
2022-11-26 6:55:46 PM  
Then we'll never get to the bottom of Hunter Biden and what's on his laptop!
 
2022-11-26 6:57:24 PM  
They'll find someone even more depraved?
 
2022-11-26 6:57:31 PM  
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2022-11-26 6:58:13 PM  
Does it matter?
The only legislation passed was unaccountable corporate handouts and military funding over what they had asked.
Written by Republicans.
I think they will be just fine no matter how much we don't want what they are selling. "We need a strong Republican party."
 
2022-11-26 6:58:54 PM  
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2022-11-26 7:00:22 PM  
cry moar, Qevin
 
2022-11-26 7:02:21 PM  

Rwa2play: Ok, help me out here: I recalled reading a blurb about House Rep. getting Democratic support if the candidate for House Speaker is more moderate but if the GOP holds the House how is that possible?


Because unlike the majority and minority leaders, the speaker vote goes before the entire house.

Which means in the event that the different factions of the GOP can't agree on a speaker, then they'd need to reach across the aisle and ask for some democrats to join in to vote yes on someone.  (Who would no doubt demand some major concessions to get their vote)

But they said the exact same thing about democrats and the squad revolting and it never materialized.  Fortunately, at least then, the squad was reasonable enough to know the hell that governing would be if no one could agree on a speaker.  It'd be turmoil.

The most extreme of the GOP will likely behave the same way.  They'll throw a fit, but in the end, they'll come together and agree.  The alternative is not desirable at all.
 
2022-11-26 7:03:49 PM  

Rwa2play: Ok, help me out here: I recalled reading a blurb about House Rep. getting Democratic support if the candidate for House Speaker is more moderate but if the GOP holds the House how is that possible?


McCarthy could maybe get Dem votes if he negotiates with them instead of negotiating with the MAGA/Gaetz/MTG group that won't negotiate with him. So perhaps no Hunter Biden laptop investigation or red flag gun laws in exchange for votes. He may be more willing to negotiate with Dems than the domestic terrorists in his own party to get the votes.
 
2022-11-26 7:03:55 PM  
I hope he is, because he's dumb as a box of rocks, and will be in way over his head, but it's unlikely that anyone they choose will be a rocket surgeon, anyhow.
 
2022-11-26 7:04:20 PM  
Liz Cheney
 
2022-11-26 7:04:28 PM  
How many are going to push for Trump for speaker?
 
2022-11-26 7:04:51 PM  

killershark: Rwa2play: Ok, help me out here: I recalled reading a blurb about House Rep. getting Democratic support if the candidate for House Speaker is more moderate but if the GOP holds the House how is that possible?

McCarthy could maybe get Dem votes if he negotiates with them instead of negotiating with the MAGA/Gaetz/MTG group that won't negotiate with him. So perhaps no Hunter Biden laptop investigation or red flag gun laws in exchange for votes. He may be more willing to negotiate with Dems than the domestic terrorists in his own party to get the votes.


If he promises the Dems something they want, he's lying.
 
2022-11-26 7:05:09 PM  
Well then subbs, I guess someone more competent will get the position.

Like ... Jenny McCarthy.
 
2022-11-26 7:05:10 PM  

Megathuma: Every time I see the name "Kevin McCarthy" my mind substitutes "Kevin McCallister" (the name of the kid character from Home Alone) and I'm momentarily confused and amused. Then I realize the mistake and sigh.

/lame story, bro, I know.


I think of this guy. It was his name.

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2022-11-26 7:05:27 PM  
Other than McCarthy, I can't think of any other Republican House member in the running.  Meteoroid Salad Goobers notwithstanding, who's on their bench?  I think there was some twerp from California?
 
2022-11-26 7:05:41 PM  

Deathbymeteor: Rwa2play: Ok, help me out here: I recalled reading a blurb about House Rep. getting Democratic support if the candidate for House Speaker is more moderate but if the GOP holds the House how is that possible?

What?

A House R could get the votes for Speaker from the Dems and like 4 of their non-nutcase brethren, but they'd need to be able to offer the D's something to get those votes, regardless of who actually holds the House.  All that matters is getting 218 House votes.


I think Kinzinger is handsome and well spoken.  His district is the one that wraps just outside of Chicagoland, so a decent mix of suburbs and rural just outside of the suburbs.  I bet he would survive being primaried by a full on loony.
 
2022-11-26 7:05:46 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: How many are going to push for Trump for speaker?


don't give them ideas
 
2022-11-26 7:06:10 PM  
Dumpsters on fire off the shoulder of Orion?
 
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