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2022-11-26 1:18:27 PM  
If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?
 
2022-11-26 2:03:07 PM  

eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?


Common threat of the maple menance across the border brings them together
 
2022-11-26 2:11:41 PM  

eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?


Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.
 
2022-11-26 2:33:59 PM  
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies... Rivers and seas boiling... Republicans and Democrats working together... mass hysteria!
 
2022-11-26 2:51:50 PM  

NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.


It would be a good to see at least a try at governance in the House. A bipartisan leadership and committee chairs would cut the legs out from the extremists. There is I believe  20 republicans in the House that would consider it. Plus seeing the far right Looney toons lose what is left of their minds would be amusing. Call it trying governance using basic sanity based on reality
 
2022-11-26 5:24:24 PM  
Let me guess. The three Republicans are big time Trumpers.
 
2022-11-26 5:25:59 PM  

eurotrader: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

It would be a good to see at least a try at governance in the House. A bipartisan leadership and committee chairs would cut the legs out from the extremists. There is I believe  20 republicans in the House that would consider it. Plus seeing the far right Looney toons lose what is left of their minds would be amusing. Call it trying governance using basic sanity based on reality


The problem is it would come down to the Democrats adopting the Republican platform while the three Republicans who crossed the Party Lines could keep voting straight Q-cumber
 
2022-11-26 5:28:06 PM  
So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.
 
2022-11-26 5:31:55 PM  
The Alaska State Senate has formed a bipartisan majority coalition for the first time in ten years.

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I have no idea what that means but it sounds important.
 
2022-11-26 5:33:18 PM  

NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.


Misplaced Alaskan living in Oregon here. What he said. Alaska is one of the United States, but it is not America.

My hope is that the legislature will act like adults against Dumbleavy's crusade to sell the state off to the lowest bidder.
 
2022-11-26 5:34:28 PM  

sinner4ever: So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.


Alaska has more true libertarians then basically anywhere, by which I mean what libertarian meant before the alt-reich swooped in and pissed all over that label too, like they did with 'conservative'.
 
2022-11-26 5:36:23 PM  

sinner4ever: So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.


Would it kill you to at least try and put some variety into your schtick? Gawd.
 
2022-11-26 5:37:18 PM  

sinner4ever: So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.


If the ideological lines in your head are mapped into the real world than this is a very conservative country, and democracy is probably not for you since you are never going to find yourself in the majority. Good luck I suppose.
 
2022-11-26 5:39:41 PM  

eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?


But how does that even work? Does this mean the Republicans are going to be slightly less awful, or does it mean the Democrats are going to be more so?

How do you do anything bipartisan with Republicans? Nothing they want is honorable or honest.
 
2022-11-26 5:42:06 PM  

hugadarn: sinner4ever: So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.

If the ideological lines in your head are mapped into the real world than this is a very conservative country, and democracy is probably not for you since you are never going to find yourself in the majority. Good luck I suppose.


So, you claim that you are the silent majority?
I think it is hilarious how conservatives like to pretend that they aren't who they are.
How many MAGA's are the exact opposite of silent? How many conservative shills on Fark are silent?
The polls show in every election that voters want progressive legislation to the point MSNBC accuses them of wanting to execute journalists.
 
2022-11-26 5:42:11 PM  

eurotrader: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

It would be a good to see at least a try at governance in the House. A bipartisan leadership and committee chairs would cut the legs out from the extremists. There is I believe  20 republicans in the House that would consider it. Plus seeing the far right Looney toons lose what is left of their minds would be amusing. Call it trying governance using basic sanity based on reality


If nobody wins the first ballot for Speaker....,
 
2022-11-26 5:44:56 PM  

eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?


Hang on while I pick myself up off the floor...
 
2022-11-26 5:45:10 PM  
Is Alaska going to be a swing state?
 
2022-11-26 5:51:20 PM  

sinner4ever: So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.


fiscally conservative, do what you will with your personal lives.
 
2022-11-26 5:51:32 PM  

NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.


Because Alaska, somehow, is the only state left with sane people.

Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican.  Peltola, just elected to the house, is an extremely moderate democrat.  They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers. They can't see each other on the political spectrum with a telescope.  Coalition would not work there.

/Sinema and Manchin notwithstanding (and in the senate anyway), most people in the center are not out very outspoken, so maybe there's more than we think.  But I'm doubting it.
 
2022-11-26 5:52:42 PM  

Black_Lazerus: sinner4ever: So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.

fiscally conservative, do what you will with your personal lives.


That's not what fiscal conservatism is.
 
2022-11-26 5:54:02 PM  
Again, you cannot be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Fiscal conservatism makes social liberalism impossible.

"I support equality, but I also support economic structures that maintain and protect inequality" is not a valid position.
 
2022-11-26 5:55:01 PM  

eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?


Money.
 
2022-11-26 5:57:37 PM  

fredbox: sinner4ever: So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.

Alaska has more true libertarians then basically anywhere, by which I mean what libertarian meant before the alt-reich swooped in and pissed all over that label too, like they did with 'conservative'.


So drugs, guns, and age of consent laws out the window?
 
2022-11-26 6:01:36 PM  

austerity101: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

But how does that even work? Does this mean the Republicans are going to be slightly less awful, or does it mean the Democrats are going to be more so?

How do you do anything bipartisan with Republicans? Nothing they want is honorable or honest.


Had a few drinks during the game. So the idea of arguing and voting on policy in a public debate with the idea to act in the best interest of the American people shouldn't be partisan. The majority of republicans have gone to full cult status and lunatic fringe is considered the norm now. I know it sounds weird now but after an election is over the ideal should be governance without party getting involved.

Republicans getting rid of any sort of campaign finance laws with citizens united, republican sponsors have just paid for the looney toons to be elected so the public just sees the crazy while ignoring open corruption.
 
2022-11-26 6:01:45 PM  

MrBallou: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies... Rivers and seas boiling... Republicans and Democrats working together... mass hysteria!


This isn't anything new. The moderate republicans have grouped with the democrats for as long as I can remember (~20 years). It's the we want to get shiat done group vs the whack-a-doodles.
 
2022-11-26 6:01:49 PM  

jake3988: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

Because Alaska, somehow, is the only state left with sane people.

Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican.  Peltola, just elected to the house, is an extremely moderate democrat.  They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers. They can't see each other on the political spectrum with a telescope.  Coalition would not work there.

/Sinema and Manchin notwithstanding (and in the senate anyway), most people in the center are not out very outspoken, so maybe there's more than we think.  But I'm doubting it.


There is not a single "nutjob left winger" in Congress or the Presidency.
 
2022-11-26 6:02:04 PM  

jake3988: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

Because Alaska, somehow, is the only state left with sane people.

Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican.  Peltola, just elected to the house, is an extremely moderate democrat.  They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers. They can't see each other on the political spectrum with a telescope.  Coalition would not work there.

/Sinema and Manchin notwithstanding (and in the senate anyway), most people in the center are not out very outspoken, so maybe there's more than we think.  But I'm doubting it.


Most democrats are nut job left wingers??
 
2022-11-26 6:05:20 PM  

Petroleum Oligarch: jake3988: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

Because Alaska, somehow, is the only state left with sane people.

Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican.  Peltola, just elected to the house, is an extremely moderate democrat.  They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers. They can't see each other on the political spectrum with a telescope.  Coalition would not work there.

/Sinema and Manchin notwithstanding (and in the senate anyway), most people in the center are not out very outspoken, so maybe there's more than we think.  But I'm doubting it.

Most democrats are nut job left wingers??


Saying that maybe America can do things that other 'developed' nations have been doing for decades, that have made them objectively better for most of their citizens in every measurable metric, is 'nutjob left wing' to some people.
 
2022-11-26 6:11:54 PM  
In other places, this is organized crime.
 
2022-11-26 6:16:04 PM  
Holy shiat. That article is describing the Alaskan Republican Party taking over the Alaskan Democratic Party.

There are only 2 parties, by the way. Like, if you come from Europe or Africa, you might forget, every single American senate is coalition of 2 parties governing. Whenever there is a Dem amjority, they always edit their legislation to meet the demands of the GOP minority - whether the GOP votes for it or not. Bipartisanship is always the Dem claim to legitimate lawmaking.

What this article is describing is that the Democratic Party just got entirely wiped out of existence, since now the GOP is the Democratic Party, without even removing their GOP label. But not vice-versa.

This redundant "coalition" claim is happening at the very same time that there are self-avowed Neo-Nazis in charge of the GOP and elected all over the country. When a Fascist party, nywhere in the world, forms a coalition, it forms a bigger Fascist party. Always. There has never been a counterexample, and we see it in European parliaments at the moment. Now it's hiatting the USA.

:(
 
2022-11-26 6:16:13 PM  

jake3988: Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican. 

....

They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers.


Horse crap and farking splinters.
Murkowski never EVER crosses the line when it has a chance of changing the outcome. Machine and Sinema do routinely

And America's version of "looney left" is to the right of Nixon on pretty much everything. Thev"moderate centrist" DLC is to the right of Reagan. Eisenhower would be considered a raving commie by the standards of today's Democrats. Yes, even The Squad. We haven't had a Left by developed world standards since the late60s/early 60s
 
2022-11-26 6:16:50 PM  

LordJiro: jake3988: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

Because Alaska, somehow, is the only state left with sane people.

Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican.  Peltola, just elected to the house, is an extremely moderate democrat.  They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers. They can't see each other on the political spectrum with a telescope.  Coalition would not work there.

/Sinema and Manchin notwithstanding (and in the senate anyway), most people in the center are not out very outspoken, so maybe there's more than we think.  But I'm doubting it.

There is not a single "nutjob left winger" in Congress or the Presidency.


Biden is the most liberal liberal ever
 
2022-11-26 6:17:43 PM  

NotARocketScientist: MrBallou: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies... Rivers and seas boiling... Republicans and Democrats working together... mass hysteria!

This isn't anything new. The moderate republicans have grouped with the democrats for as long as I can remember (~20 years). It's the we want to get shiat done group vs the whack-a-doodles.


Excatly. So the real question is, what is really being described in the article?
 
2022-11-26 6:20:45 PM  

snowshovel: LordJiro: jake3988: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

Because Alaska, somehow, is the only state left with sane people.

Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican.  Peltola, just elected to the house, is an extremely moderate democrat.  They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers. They can't see each other on the political spectrum with a telescope.  Coalition would not work there.

/Sinema and Manchin notwithstanding (and in the senate anyway), most people in the center are not out very outspoken, so maybe there's more than we think.  But I'm doubting it.

There is not a single "nutjob left winger" in Congress or the Presidency.

Biden is the most liberal liberal ever


hahaha
I remember Biden saying he was the most progressive person in the primary. The next time he was asked about it he realized how stupid it was and tried to claim that he said liberal. Moderates, like other conservatives .are dumb.
 
2022-11-26 6:23:44 PM  

eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?


Legal weed.
 
2022-11-26 6:26:35 PM  

Seabon: Is Alaska going to be a swing state?


That would be hilarious, but no. Anchorage is too red to allow that to happen.
 
2022-11-26 6:27:58 PM  

anuran: jake3988: Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican. 

....

They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers.

Horse crap and farking splinters.
Murkowski never EVER crosses the line when it has a chance of changing the outcome. Machine and Sinema do routinely

And America's version of "looney left" is to the right of Nixon on pretty much everything. Thev"moderate centrist" DLC is to the right of Reagan. Eisenhower would be considered a raving commie by the standards of today's Democrats. Yes, even The Squad. We haven't had a Left by developed world standards since the late60s/early 60s


In the case of Alaska, just look at the dismal treatment of Inuit, the utter destruction of the forests that is celebrated with endless tv shows about miners and loggers doing irreperable damage, and their oil economy. Alaska's Democratic Party made all of that happen, and it's farking disgustingly far-right and based on complete lies about consequences that the GOP espouses. There is no loony left in Alaska. There is a Democratic Party that facilitates the worst possible scenario, using extremist rhetoric of the oil companies and neoconservative ethnostate (in the case of the forestry and Indigenous abuse).
 
2022-11-26 6:34:24 PM  

NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.


Hell, even Alaska has figured out how to do runoffs instantly without wasting everyone's time with another election over the holidays like Georgia.
 
2022-11-26 6:43:34 PM  

anuran: eurotrader: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

It would be a good to see at least a try at governance in the House. A bipartisan leadership and committee chairs would cut the legs out from the extremists. There is I believe  20 republicans in the House that would consider it. Plus seeing the far right Looney toons lose what is left of their minds would be amusing. Call it trying governance using basic sanity based on reality

The problem is it would come down to the Democrats adopting the Republican platform while the three Republicans who crossed the Party Lines could keep voting straight Q-cumber


Republican platform you say?
 
2022-11-26 6:44:19 PM  

fruit flies like a banana: anuran: eurotrader: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

It would be a good to see at least a try at governance in the House. A bipartisan leadership and committee chairs would cut the legs out from the extremists. There is I believe  20 republicans in the House that would consider it. Plus seeing the far right Looney toons lose what is left of their minds would be amusing. Call it trying governance using basic sanity based on reality

The problem is it would come down to the Democrats adopting the Republican platform while the three Republicans who crossed the Party Lines could keep voting straight Q-cumber

Republican platform you say?


Try not to get to excited.
 
2022-11-26 7:00:45 PM  

sinner4ever: fruit flies like a banana: anuran: eurotrader: NewportBarGuy: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

Alaska is an entirely different country altogether. What works there would never work here, for the most part.

It would be a good to see at least a try at governance in the House. A bipartisan leadership and committee chairs would cut the legs out from the extremists. There is I believe  20 republicans in the House that would consider it. Plus seeing the far right Looney toons lose what is left of their minds would be amusing. Call it trying governance using basic sanity based on reality

The problem is it would come down to the Democrats adopting the Republican platform while the three Republicans who crossed the Party Lines could keep voting straight Q-cumber

Republican platform you say?

Try not to get to excited.


I'm not aware of any Republican platform. They didn't present one at their last convention. McConnell recently confirmed there is none.
 
2022-11-26 7:05:54 PM  

fredbox: sinner4ever: So, Alaska has become Fark. All conservative ,but they swear they will vote blue no matter who.

Alaska has more true libertarians then basically anywhere, by which I mean what libertarian meant before the alt-reich swooped in and pissed all over that label too, like they did with 'conservative'.


Anarchists?
 
2022-11-26 7:19:54 PM  

eurotrader: austerity101: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

But how does that even work? Does this mean the Republicans are going to be slightly less awful, or does it mean the Democrats are going to be more so?

How do you do anything bipartisan with Republicans? Nothing they want is honorable or honest.

Had a few drinks during the game. So the idea of arguing and voting on policy in a public debate with the idea to act in the best interest of the American people shouldn't be partisan. The majority of republicans have gone to full cult status and lunatic fringe is considered the norm now. I know it sounds weird now but after an election is over the ideal should be governance without party getting involved.

Republicans getting rid of any sort of campaign finance laws with citizens united, republican sponsors have just paid for the looney toons to be elected so the public just sees the crazy while ignoring open corruption.


I don't disagree with your ideals, but they also aren't the world we live in.
 
2022-11-26 7:31:14 PM  
Ranked-choice voting is a beautiful thing.
 
2022-11-26 7:36:30 PM  

austerity101: eurotrader: austerity101: eurotrader: If farking AK can figure this out why can't the US House do the same?

But how does that even work? Does this mean the Republicans are going to be slightly less awful, or does it mean the Democrats are going to be more so?

How do you do anything bipartisan with Republicans? Nothing they want is honorable or honest.

Had a few drinks during the game. So the idea of arguing and voting on policy in a public debate with the idea to act in the best interest of the American people shouldn't be partisan. The majority of republicans have gone to full cult status and lunatic fringe is considered the norm now. I know it sounds weird now but after an election is over the ideal should be governance without party getting involved.

Republicans getting rid of any sort of campaign finance laws with citizens united, republican sponsors have just paid for the looney toons to be elected so the public just sees the crazy while ignoring open corruption.

I don't disagree with your ideals, but they also aren't the world we live in.


I interact with a number of county and state elected officials and the change towards competency and acting in the best interest of the people in the past decade has given me hope that something similar could happen on the national level. Don't think it will be next year on the national level but hope springs eternal. Plus the absolute shiatshow I think the republicans are working for may hasten the change.

/The change started in my area after  religious nutjobs got elected to the school board and then recalled. Some people that simply want government to work in best interest using best buy got elected. The Colorado legislature is majority as identifying as women.
 
2022-11-26 8:03:58 PM  
The reason Alaska has these bipartisan coalitions is because they have to.  The Republican party controls enough seats that technically they could just ignore the Democrats, but a few of those Republican seats are controlled by nut-jobs who would rather shutdown the entire Alaskan government instead of supporting even their own party's state budget.
 
2022-11-26 8:38:38 PM  
How insane do those 3 have to be that the other Republicans have said, "Nope, we'll work with the Democrats rather than your insanity".
 
2022-11-26 8:55:40 PM  

jake3988: Because Alaska, somehow, is the only state left with sane people.


Sane Republicans.

There are plenty of sane people left. The problem is that for the most part, Republicans have had the choice before them to stay Republican or stay sane, and most have chosen the former.
 
2022-11-26 9:06:39 PM  

anuran: jake3988: Murkowski, for example, is an extremely moderate republican. 

....

They're a rare breed these days.  Most people in the US House and Senate are nutjob left wingers and nutjob right wingers.

Horse crap and farking splinters.
Murkowski never EVER crosses the line when it has a chance of changing the outcome. Machine and Sinema do routinely

And America's version of "looney left" is to the right of Nixon on pretty much everything. Thev"moderate centrist" DLC is to the right of Reagan. Eisenhower would be considered a raving commie by the standards of today's Democrats. Yes, even The Squad. We haven't had a Left by developed world standards since the late60s/early 60s


lol

There is literally nothing in common between the modern Democratic platform and Reagan's agenda
 
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