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(Gizmodo)   Netflix decides to make extra money through ads during shows. Anime distributor pulls one of the biggest shows of the past decade in response   (gizmodo.com) divider line
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2022-11-26 12:15:42 PM  
Good
 
2022-11-26 12:28:53 PM  
And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.
 
2022-11-26 2:17:05 PM  
I'd rather watch Lifetime specials.

/HBO will be next. "Ad free" Max has bumpers, those are ads.
 
2022-11-26 3:05:21 PM  
And yet one or two paragraphs down:

"In a statement provided to The Japan Times, Netflix said it's since stopped showing ads on NHK programs."

"Journalism"
 
2022-11-26 3:08:01 PM  
Netflix is not forcing anyone to buy the plan with ads. It is just an option for stupid people.
 
2022-11-26 3:09:29 PM  
Netflix.

What r u doing?

NETFLIX.

STAAAAHHP!
 
2022-11-26 3:26:06 PM  

Bslim: And yet one or two paragraphs down:

"In a statement provided to The Japan Times, Netflix said it's since stopped showing ads on NHK programs."

"Journalism"


It sounds like NHK might still not allow its programs on Netflix, since there's a "chance" they could see an ad. Though I'm not sure how that'd be possible unless someone watched an anime show on an ad-free version, then saw a different show on an ad-supported version (watched on a friend's account or something) and made some kind of mental bridge linking the two?

It says they're still in negotiations, so clickbait headline is clickbait.
 
2022-11-26 3:27:09 PM  
Peacock must be in shiat land
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2022-11-26 4:00:43 PM  
Which one of those shows was one of the biggest shows of the past decade?
 
2022-11-26 4:20:16 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Peacock must be in shiat land
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Peacock has Yellowstone, which is evidently the most popular TV show airing. So they can't be doing too bad.
 
2022-11-26 4:36:10 PM  
Yeah, why bother offering better features and a wider selection of international and indy films/series when you can just charge more for what used to be the standard?
 
2022-11-26 4:40:21 PM  

Naido: Which one of those shows was one of the biggest shows of the past decade?


Attack On Titan. It saved the ACTN section of Adult Swim single-handedly.

It has more total streams than all of The Walking Dead. It's the most globally popular show since Baywatch... Almost 30 years ago.
 
2022-11-26 4:53:24 PM  

Somaticasual: And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.


Hulu has plenty of traction, and they've always had an ad-free tier. People are just too cheap to pay for it. I do, and it's awesome.
 
2022-11-26 5:12:41 PM  

Lsherm: Somaticasual: And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.

Hulu has plenty of traction, and they've always had an ad-free tier. People are just too cheap to pay for it. I do, and it's awesome.


Same.
 
2022-11-26 5:12:47 PM  

Felix Tekat: Netflix is not forcing anyone to buy the plan with ads. It is just an option for stupid people.


found netflix ceo fark account
 
2022-11-26 5:21:09 PM  

Lsherm: Somaticasual: And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.

Hulu has plenty of traction, and they've always had an ad-free tier. People are just too cheap to pay for it. I do, and it's awesome.


And Hulu is $1.99/month for the next year with their Black Friday deal.
 
2022-11-26 5:27:16 PM  

Bullitt: Lsherm: Somaticasual: And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.

Hulu has plenty of traction, and they've always had an ad-free tier. People are just too cheap to pay for it. I do, and it's awesome.

And Hulu is $1.99/month for the next year with their Black Friday deal.


I think that version has ads, though.
 
2022-11-26 5:28:39 PM  

Jedekai: Naido: Which one of those shows was one of the biggest shows of the past decade?

Attack On Titan. It saved the ACTN section of Adult Swim single-handedly.

It has more total streams than all of The Walking Dead. It's the most globally popular show since Baywatch... Almost 30 years ago.


Wow, I had no idea.  May have to check that out.

Though TWD & Baywatch are great reminders of how popular terrible shows can become.
 
2022-11-26 6:01:32 PM  

Flappyhead: Yeah, why bother offering better features and a wider selection of international and indy films/series when you can just charge more for what used to be the standard?


Digital shrinkflation.
 
2022-11-26 6:45:54 PM  
Related: bought tickets for Glass Onion online. Paid an extra $1.85 per ticket for the "convenience." When I confirm/checkout, the QR code is blocked by a pop up; "sign up for Cinemark rewards and get an extra $150 credits for future purchases!" No thanks, click to close. Another pop up! Same thing, but Walmart. Click close, ANOTHER one, SiriusXM! One more for a credit card! Four, FOUR farking pop ups, and I had to pay almost $2 for the farking privilege of this shiat, which you don't get if you buy it at the theater (which is what I kept telling my mom, but after Thanksgiving, I don't have the energy to fight anymore).

Moral of the story: they sell an ad-free tier now for extra money. Don't count on it in the future. Eventually, they'll only sell you a "minimum ad" plan for an additional fee. Can't wait until somebody figures out you could charge extra for the season finales!
 
2022-11-26 6:55:24 PM  

Naido: Which one of those shows was one of the biggest shows of the past decade?


none of them
 
2022-11-26 7:34:04 PM  
Between this and Crunchyroll locking down everything behind their own subscription, I swear...
 
2022-11-26 8:23:57 PM  
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2022-11-26 9:38:12 PM  

Naido: Bullitt: Lsherm: Somaticasual: And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.

Hulu has plenty of traction, and they've always had an ad-free tier. People are just too cheap to pay for it. I do, and it's awesome.

And Hulu is $1.99/month for the next year with their Black Friday deal.

I think that version has ads, though.


I honestly don't mind the ads.  They're not nearly as bad as network television, and you can use it as a pee break or whatever.
 
2022-11-26 10:11:45 PM  
I just watched all initial D again
Speedy speed boyyyyy

I miss ytmnd
 
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2022-11-26 10:27:03 PM  

Somaticasual: And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.


Right. I had a tiny desire to see the new Hellraiser on HULU, could not get two minutes of the show before five minutes of same commercials. Minutes of commercials, roll opening credits, roll more commercials. I said fark that and turned it off. Still haven't seen the new Hellraiser movie.
 
2022-11-26 10:52:23 PM  

CarnySaur: Naido: Bullitt: Lsherm: Somaticasual: And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.

Hulu has plenty of traction, and they've always had an ad-free tier. People are just too cheap to pay for it. I do, and it's awesome.

And Hulu is $1.99/month for the next year with their Black Friday deal.

I think that version has ads, though.

I honestly don't mind the ads.  They're not nearly as bad as network television, and you can use it as a pee break or whatever.


The problem with a lot of the ads on streaming is that it's much more intrusive than traditional network television even if the ad breaks are shorter. Shows developed for traditional network television were written with ad breaks in mind, so there was a logical break point going in to commercials. This is rarely the case with streaming and ads pop up at inopportune times, ruining the flow of the episode (except for those that only show ads before and after).
 
2022-11-26 10:58:11 PM  
They could market the live action Death Note.
 
2022-11-27 1:04:14 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: drjekel_mrhyde: Peacock must be in shiat land
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Peacock has Yellowstone, which is evidently the most popular TV show airing. So they can't be doing too bad.


Huh.  I never knew Yellowstone was a Peacock product. TPB and ShowRSS are my providers of choice.
 
2022-11-27 2:20:33 AM  

Felix Tekat: Netflix is not forcing anyone to buy the plan with ads. It is just an option for stupid people.


I mean... the reason this is a bad idea isn't that the ad-supported model is inherently bad in itself, honestly (Hulu's doing fine, and its basis is rerunning cable shows designed with ad breaks, which people watch and have no problem with).  The problem is that every time they do something best described as 'desperate flailing' and change how the payment tiers work, people actually have to think about their subscription and whether to renew it or not, which, like... it comes down to the show selection and Netflix's overall selection is pretty weak and its original content pushes sturgeon's law to the extreme.

The entire business model of the company is for people to forget they're subscribed and just let the subscription auto-renew forever regardless of what the value proposition is.  Every time they do something like this, they're basically shaking the entire bowl of viewers and some of them fall out.  When they do it repeatedly, the bowl hasn't refilled yet so they're losing another fraction of what remains after the last time, every time they do it.

Like... sure, at the beginning, when Netflix's catalog was "literally everything you could have previously rented when it was a service that mailed you physical DVDs", the re-evaluation decision when people were forced to think about it almost always came out in their favor.  Now that they have a relatively tiny catalogue that explicitly excludes basically any older movie you'd ever reasonably want to watch, and people have to base the decision entirely on the quality distribution of "Netflix original series" nonsense, that's not really the case.  They need to pick a model and not mess with it, at all, for at least five years.
 
2022-11-27 2:36:32 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Felix Tekat: Netflix is not forcing anyone to buy the plan with ads. It is just an option for stupid people.

I mean... the reason this is a bad idea isn't that the ad-supported model is inherently bad in itself, honestly (Hulu's doing fine, and its basis is rerunning cable shows designed with ad breaks, which people watch and have no problem with).  The problem is that every time they do something best described as 'desperate flailing' and change how the payment tiers work, people actually have to think about their subscription and whether to renew it or not, which, like... it comes down to the show selection and Netflix's overall selection is pretty weak and its original content pushes sturgeon's law to the extreme.

The entire business model of the company is for people to forget they're subscribed and just let the subscription auto-renew forever regardless of what the value proposition is.  Every time they do something like this, they're basically shaking the entire bowl of viewers and some of them fall out.  When they do it repeatedly, the bowl hasn't refilled yet so they're losing another fraction of what remains after the last time, every time they do it.

Like... sure, at the beginning, when Netflix's catalog was "literally everything you could have previously rented when it was a service that mailed you physical DVDs", the re-evaluation decision when people were forced to think about it almost always came out in their favor.  Now that they have a relatively tiny catalogue that explicitly excludes basically any older movie you'd ever reasonably want to watch, and people have to base the decision entirely on the quality distribution of "Netflix original series" nonsense, that's not really the case.  They need to pick a model and not mess with it, at all, for at least five years.


Unfortunately the Netflix model requires them to cancel what they were doing after the third year.
 
2022-11-27 3:39:53 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: drjekel_mrhyde: Peacock must be in shiat land
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Peacock has Yellowstone, which is evidently the most popular TV show airing. So they can't be doing too bad.


I want Peacock to get the extra seasons of A.P. Bio, but my 2016 Samsung smart TV is apparently a month or two too old to be compatible with it. I can get any other streaming service on earth no problem, but NBC thinks it's my fault for not upgrading a TV that is already way more TV than I'll need for years.
 
2022-11-27 4:24:30 AM  

gad: Somaticasual: And that, netflix, is why hulu never quite got the traction - you can't avoid the ads. Don't be like hulu.

Right. I had a tiny desire to see the new Hellraiser on HULU, could not get two minutes of the show before five minutes of same commercials. Minutes of commercials, roll opening credits, roll more commercials. I said fark that and turned it off. Still haven't seen the new Hellraiser movie.


You can get Hulu ad free for less than Netflix.
 
2022-11-27 9:42:30 AM  

Naido: Jedekai: Naido: Which one of those shows was one of the biggest shows of the past decade?

Attack On Titan. It saved the ACTN section of Adult Swim single-handedly.

It has more total streams than all of The Walking Dead. It's the most globally popular show since Baywatch... Almost 30 years ago.

Wow, I had no idea.  May have to check that out.

Though TWD & Baywatch are great reminders of how popular terrible shows can become.


As someone who hates anime, you should! Well, never went back for season 2 but still. For a 25 episode first season, there's only maybe 2-3 that are just mindless filler or drag total ass and should have been chopped. Characters are well written and aren't just cardboard clichés. It's a legit good show. I wouldn't way it's a top 10 show on TV but I didn't regret my time with it.
 
2022-11-27 9:57:54 AM  

Naido: Jedekai: Naido: Which one of those shows was one of the biggest shows of the past decade?

Attack On Titan. It saved the ACTN section of Adult Swim single-handedly.

It has more total streams than all of The Walking Dead. It's the most globally popular show since Baywatch... Almost 30 years ago.

Wow, I had no idea.  May have to check that out.

Though TWD & Baywatch are great reminders of how popular terrible shows can become.


It's an excellent show. It also has a clear ending coming soon. The source manga finished about a year ago.
To me, it succeeds where the walking dead failed. TWD had zombies as the enemy, then various groups of people and got redundant. AoT changes the enemy more naturally.
 
2022-11-27 11:40:16 AM  

ghostfacekillahrabbit: Tyrone Slothrop: drjekel_mrhyde: Peacock must be in shiat land
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Peacock has Yellowstone, which is evidently the most popular TV show airing. So they can't be doing too bad.

I want Peacock to get the extra seasons of A.P. Bio, but my 2016 Samsung smart TV is apparently a month or two too old to be compatible with it. I can get any other streaming service on earth no problem, but NBC thinks it's my fault for not upgrading a TV that is already way more TV than I'll need for years.


Not sure if it would help your situation, but a few years ago when I wanted to add Starz to my smart TV's resident Hulu app and couldn't, Hulu customer service told me my two-year-old Samsung smart TV was 'too old' to update the internal app, but that the least expensive and best solution was to get a Roku, as the apps on the Roku were still updatable. And at only about $20, would extend the life of the TV by a long margin.
 
2022-11-27 2:48:03 PM  

Naido: Jedekai: Naido: Which one of those shows was one of the biggest shows of the past decade?

Attack On Titan. It saved the ACTN section of Adult Swim single-handedly.

It has more total streams than all of The Walking Dead. It's the most globally popular show since Baywatch... Almost 30 years ago.

Wow, I had no idea.  May have to check that out.

Though TWD & Baywatch are great reminders of how popular terrible shows can become.


Now's probably a good time to catch up.  The final (really, this time they mean it) season is coming up next year.  So you can catch up and not deal with the long season breaks.

I like it alright, but I don't think it's good enough to justify it's popularity.  The pacing is not great, but it has a decent story to it.  Just don't get too attached to any of the characters.  It's like a Gundam show during Tomino's kill'em-all phase.
 
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