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2022-11-26 3:38:03 AM  
I mean collectively? Yeah. We got several times that.

We blow four of them biatches just blowing up a nation we don't care about. nbd's for days
 
2022-11-26 3:41:50 AM  
Ban private jets flying worldwide, air travel can be only commercial with 90% of the seats or more  being occupied and more than 100 passengers

then we can discuss fighting climate change.  because the rich are okay with the rest of the world becoming inhabitable as long as they got their shelters to live out the rest of their life
 
2022-11-26 3:44:52 AM  
I'll check my couch cushions.
 
2022-11-26 3:52:07 AM  

kkinnison: Ban private jets flying worldwide, air travel can be only commercial with 90% of the seats or more  being occupied and more than 100 passengers

then we can discuss fighting climate change.  because the rich are okay with the rest of the world becoming inhabitable as long as they got their shelters to live out the rest of their life


I'n not clear on the "makes us a few trillion dollars" part.
 
2022-11-26 4:16:56 AM  
I am sorry, but without profits, we are nothing.

edmo: I'n not clear on the "makes us a few trillion dollars" part.


Nobody "makes" anything.  we STOP making things, and learn how to farking recycle.   No profits.  We back off, we let nature do her thing for about 50 years, and a lot of those trillions we need will vanish.  Stop beating an almost- dead horse, and you might find that it comes back to life.

or we keep being farking idiots, and I bet I know which one we choose, since men are still in charge.
 
2022-11-26 4:20:15 AM  
FiGht cLiMatE ChAnGe..... That ship sailed a longtime ago. Even the ability to mitigate the effects is disappearing rapidly. We're left with adapt or die. 

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2022-11-26 4:23:29 AM  
Two thousand fewer billionaires is a good place to start.
 
2022-11-26 4:28:05 AM  

Psychopompous: Two thousand fewer billionaires is a good place to start.


Putin dies first.
 
2022-11-26 5:00:14 AM  

kkinnison: air travel can be only commercial with 90% of the seats or more  being occupied and more than 100 passengers


Have you been on an airplane since Eastern Airlines was a thing?
 
2022-11-26 5:00:15 AM  

kkinnison: Ban private jets flying worldwide, air travel can be only commercial with 90% of the seats or more  being occupied and more than 100 passengers

then we can discuss fighting climate change.  because the rich are okay with the rest of the world becoming inhabitable as long as they got their shelters to live out the rest of their life


If we were to ban private jets then there couldn't be any more COP conferences.

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So very responsible for the climate.
 
2022-11-26 5:04:32 AM  

kkinnison: the rich are okay with the rest of the world becoming inhabitable as long as they got their shelters to live out the rest of their life


All of you are going to have to make sacrifices to fight climate change.

Signed, the rich
 
2022-11-26 5:19:15 AM  
If only there was some way to collect funds from the private sector. This puzzler sure is taxing.
 
2022-11-26 5:51:35 AM  
Do we have even more money to pay for the consequences of not mitigating climate change?
 
2022-11-26 5:56:30 AM  

wademh: Do we have even more money to pay for the consequences of not mitigating climate change?


Bingo.
 
2022-11-26 6:36:45 AM  

kkinnison: Ban private jets flying worldwide, air travel can be only commercial with 90% of the seats or more  being occupied and more than 100 passengers

then we can discuss fighting climate change.  because the rich are okay with the rest of the world becoming inhabitable as long as they got their shelters to live out the rest of their life


While a few billion people cook with wood every day.  I'm sure the entire developing world is going straight from burros and bicycles to Teslas.
 
2022-11-26 6:54:48 AM  
The easiest solution to this and it would cost less than a trillion. 2/3 of you must stop existing.

Now since I came up with the idea I'm safe.

I'll miss some of you...maybe.
 
2022-11-26 7:01:15 AM  
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2022-11-26 7:02:35 AM  
We farked around for 150 years on climate change, and we're still farking around now as we feel the effects of temperatures becoming more intense.

From herr forward every winter will be "the coldest in recorded history!" Every summer will be the hottest.

Then people will die in more massive numbers and mass migration will happen.

Even we threw the entire force of collective human endeavor at this 1 problem we *maybe* could still have a chance. Instead we talk and do nothing.

Humanity as a whole continues to fark around and the finding out phase of this will be our near extinction.
 
2022-11-26 7:06:30 AM  

HerptheDerp: We farked around for 150 years on climate change, and we're still farking around now as we feel the effects of temperatures becoming more intense.

From herr forward every winter will be "the coldest in recorded history!" Every summer will be the hottest.

Then people will die in more massive numbers and mass migration will happen.

Even we threw the entire force of collective human endeavor at this 1 problem we *maybe* could still have a chance. Instead we talk and do nothing.

Humanity as a whole continues to fark around and the finding out phase of this will be our near extinction.


Wasn't there some NASA theory that we hadn't met any spacefaring aliens because they likely keep wiping themselves out before they can develop effective space travel?
 
2022-11-26 7:12:29 AM  
Developing countries aren't causing anywhere near the majority of the problem. Yeah, I said it.
 
2022-11-26 7:13:12 AM  
We're going to be the first species to destroy itself despite having the knowledge, awareness and ability to change that outcome.
 
2022-11-26 7:31:25 AM  

kmgenesis23: We're going to be the first species to destroy itself despite having the knowledge, awareness and ability to change that outcome.


As far as you know.
 
2022-11-26 7:46:33 AM  
If there is a universal human truth, it's that we all want everything, and someone else to pay for it.
 
2022-11-26 8:33:19 AM  
The One Percent do.  And they will kill every last one of us before willingly parting with even one-ten-thousanth of a percent of it, for literally any reason, no matter how righteous or dire.
 
2022-11-26 8:34:25 AM  
Pay up, everybody.

Inflation and current tax rates are going to look like a children's' games when that bill comes due.

The question remains is: how much of YOUR income are you willing to have forcibly taken from you to "fight" climate change?
 
2022-11-26 8:36:20 AM  

goodncold: The easiest solution to this and it would cost less than a trillion. 2/3 of you must stop existing.

Now since I came up with the idea I'm safe.

I'll miss some of you...maybe.


This is the only answer, but mass genocide tends to be frowned upon.
 
2022-11-26 8:41:50 AM  
It's going to be paid for with the lives of billions of people over the next century. Mass migration in the face of sea levels rising and from new dust bowls is going to be a disaster of unparalleled proportions. We're (UK, US etc. by virtue of geographical isolation) lucky we're out of the worst of it, but the effects will change the course of humanity for ever. Whether it's for better or worse remains to be seen. I'd bet on worse though, because we're just awful.
 
2022-11-26 8:43:29 AM  

Pharmdawg: Developing countries aren't causing anywhere near the majority of the problem. Yeah, I said it.


But they are suffering the worst effects.
 
2022-11-26 8:45:08 AM  

goodncold: The easiest solution to this and it would cost less than a trillion. 2/3 of you must stop existing.

Now since I came up with the idea I'm safe.

I'll miss some of you...maybe.


Already on it chief.

Less water = less food = WWIII = a lot of dead people.

But hey,

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2022-11-26 8:46:29 AM  
Start by taking all the money the government gives away to oil companies and donating it to this fund instead.
 
2022-11-26 9:16:47 AM  
Any one of these guys do:

Elon Musk
Bernard Arnault
Gautam Adani
Jeff Bezos
Warren Buffett
Bill Gates
Larry Ellison
Mukesh Ambani
Carlos Slim Helu
Larry Page
Sergey Brin
Steve Ballmer
Michael Bloomberg
Francoise Bettencourt
Zhong Shanshan
Jim Walton
Rob Walton
Amancio Ortega
Alice Walton
Charles Koch

...and more. They just won't.

Source:
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#4fa604803d78
 
2022-11-26 9:21:44 AM  
Oh, They'll "do something" about climate change:
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2022-11-26 9:22:45 AM  

dontpanic07042: Any one of these guys do:

Elon Musk
Bernard Arnault
Gautam Adani
Jeff Bezos
Warren Buffett
Bill Gates
Larry Ellison
Mukesh Ambani
Carlos Slim Helu
Larry Page
Sergey Brin
Steve Ballmer
Michael Bloomberg
Francoise Bettencourt
Zhong Shanshan
Jim Walton
Rob Walton
Amancio Ortega
Alice Walton
Charles Koch

...and more. They just won't.

Source:
https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#4fa604803d78


I guess we'll just see if their body are flammable...
 
2022-11-26 9:49:48 AM  

Gaythiest Elitist: We're left with adapt or die.


California (weather) dreaming .....in Montana North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, PA, New York, Antartica.

What's not to like?
 
2022-11-26 10:05:44 AM  
Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, and all of them could together give away that amount of money and still be insanely rich. They'd be the heroes of humanity for centuries.

But they don't.
 
2022-11-26 10:09:02 AM  

goodncold: The easiest solution to this and it would cost less than a trillion. 2/3 of you must stop existing.


And let me guess. The richest 1%, who are responsible for ~99% of the pollution, are not included in that 2/3, right?
 
2022-11-26 10:12:02 AM  
When there is no water for sale at any price is usually the point rich people consider not watering their lawns despite the fines.
 
2022-11-26 10:13:41 AM  

bostonguy: Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, and all of them could together give away that amount of money and still be insanely rich. They'd be the heroes of humanity for centuries.

But they don't.


You don't become a billionaire by caring about humanity.

People who care about humanity would never become billionaires in the first place, because of the amount of exploitation of people required to amass that kind of wealth.

For the types you mentioned, sure they'd like to be remembered forever, but not at the cost of their obscene wealth now. They'd rather be remembered for giving the appearance of doing great things for humanity but really only trying to enrich themselves and their cronies.

The rest of us are not people to them. We are resources to be exploited and costs to be minimized.
 
2022-11-26 10:15:25 AM  

Alphax: HerptheDerp: We farked around for 150 years on climate change, and we're still farking around now as we feel the effects of temperatures becoming more intense.

From herr forward every winter will be "the coldest in recorded history!" Every summer will be the hottest.

Then people will die in more massive numbers and mass migration will happen.

Even we threw the entire force of collective human endeavor at this 1 problem we *maybe* could still have a chance. Instead we talk and do nothing.

Humanity as a whole continues to fark around and the finding out phase of this will be our near extinction.

Wasn't there some NASA theory that we hadn't met any spacefaring aliens because they likely keep wiping themselves out before they can develop effective space travel?


Part of "the great filter" in the Fermi Paradox.
 
2022-11-26 10:21:08 AM  
Don't worry everyone, it will definitely get cheaper if we just wait.  Specifically, if we wait until it's someone else's problem.  Always someone else's problem.
 
2022-11-26 10:25:19 AM  

Sexy Jesus: While a few billion people cook with wood every day.  I'm sure the entire developing world is going straight from burros and bicycles to Teslas.


Maybe not bicycles to Teslas but why not bicycles to electric bikes instead of ICE motorcycles?

A lot of the developing world skipped landline tel/data and went directly to wireless. Parts of Africa had wireless payment by phone long before it was available in the US. In part because there was no existing system fighting for status quo.
 
2022-11-26 10:37:27 AM  

cloudofdust: Sexy Jesus: While a few billion people cook with wood every day.  I'm sure the entire developing world is going straight from burros and bicycles to Teslas.

Maybe not bicycles to Teslas but why not bicycles to electric bikes instead of ICE motorcycles?

A lot of the developing world skipped landline tel/data and went directly to wireless. Parts of Africa had wireless payment by phone long before it was available in the US. In part because there was no existing system fighting for status quo.


ICE motorcycles are barely a measurable part of the problem.
 
2022-11-26 11:13:37 AM  

MurphyMurphy: I mean collectively? Yeah. We got several times that.

We blow four of them biatches just blowing up a nation we don't care about. nbd's for days


See also:
Not spending the last ~20 years fighting tooth and nail to not spend any actually significant amounts of money on the transition.

Almost like we were warned then, take action now, or it will only get more expensive.

Alllllmost like that.
 
2022-11-26 11:28:58 AM  
When we fought the hole in the ozone layer there were lots of people making bank.  This nonsense about the cost of not cooking our planet is fearmongering from the oil companies.
 
2022-11-26 11:44:16 AM  
It's all a Chinese Hoax. Guys.
 
2022-11-26 11:45:07 AM  

Gaythiest Elitist: FiGht cLiMatE ChAnGe..... That ship sailed a longtime ago. Even the ability to mitigate the effects is disappearing rapidly. We're left with adapt or die. 

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climate change is not a light switch.  it's not either off or on, there are varying levels of change.

The Earth doesn't not have to become like Venus.
 
2022-11-26 11:45:29 AM  

GoldSpider: cloudofdust: Sexy Jesus: While a few billion people cook with wood every day.  I'm sure the entire developing world is going straight from burros and bicycles to Teslas.

Maybe not bicycles to Teslas but why not bicycles to electric bikes instead of ICE motorcycles?

A lot of the developing world skipped landline tel/data and went directly to wireless. Parts of Africa had wireless payment by phone long before it was available in the US. In part because there was no existing system fighting for status quo.

ICE motorcycles are barely a measurable part of the problem.


You completely missed the point. Good work!
 
2022-11-26 11:45:55 AM  

Psychopompous: Two thousand fewer billionaires is a good place to start.


Musk's FTC fines over Twitter are a good place to start.
 
2022-11-26 11:55:55 AM  

kkinnison: Ban private jets flying worldwide, air travel can be only commercial with 90% of the seats or more  being occupied and more than 100 passengers

then we can discuss fighting climate change.  because the rich are okay with the rest of the world becoming inhabitable as long as they got their shelters to live out the rest of their life


Not saying every little bit doesn't help... but that's a fraction of a fraction, or about .07% (private flights are approximately 10% volume of commercial, and get about 3x the fuel efficiency - G200 vs 737-800 on a 1knm flight) of global emissions.  You'd get way more of an impact by increasing road vehicle fleet fuel efficiency by 10% (resulting in about 1.2% of all emissions being eliminated).

Also, you'd find out that you'd never be able to achieve 90% seat utilization.  A sizeable fraction of flights are for equipment repositioning for demand.  You'd end up with a airplane parking problem in a number of airports, no equipment to move people and the airline industry freezing up in about 12 hours.
 
2022-11-26 12:20:55 PM  

Alphax: HerptheDerp: We farked around for 150 years on climate change, and we're still farking around now as we feel the effects of temperatures becoming more intense.

From herr forward every winter will be "the coldest in recorded history!" Every summer will be the hottest.

Then people will die in more massive numbers and mass migration will happen.

Even we threw the entire force of collective human endeavor at this 1 problem we *maybe* could still have a chance. Instead we talk and do nothing.

Humanity as a whole continues to fark around and the finding out phase of this will be our near extinction.

Wasn't there some NASA theory that we hadn't met any spacefaring aliens because they likely keep wiping themselves out before they can develop effective space travel?


Sure.

Sounds like  theory given from a summer tour guide tween Freshman Sophomore year (yeah I worked at Nasa).

And here's his theory, from a Nasa source!!
 
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