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(International Business Times)   Apple fanbois seeking new iPhones on Black Friday outraged at inefficient child labor in China resulting in no inventory   (ibtimes.com) divider line
    More: Murica, Apple Inc., iPhone Pros, IPhone, Apple store, Steve Jobs, Black Friday, iPhone shortages, Sally Gannon  
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2022-11-26 1:01:59 AM  
I have seen stories during the past few weeks about  the window closing to be able to get a new iPhone before Christmas. The last one said delivery dates are now into January. If people are showing up expecting phones to be in stock at stores, they're not paying attention.
 
2022-11-26 1:29:32 AM  
You buy the iPhone 14 and an hour later you want to buy the iPhone 15.
 
2022-11-26 6:29:40 AM  
More free time for them to shoot up a school, synagogue, or drag queen story hour.
 
2022-11-26 6:31:59 AM  

NotCodger: I have seen stories during the past few weeks about  the window closing to be able to get a new iPhone before Christmas. The last one said delivery dates are now into January. If people are showing up expecting phones to be in stock at stores, they're not paying attention.


Apple people would need some sort of bloatware to make them aware, and remind them, of that.
 
2022-11-26 6:39:36 AM  
This is 100% Apple's fault for relying so much on China to produce their goods.

The lack of supply chain diversity really screwed them over when Covid hit.
 
2022-11-26 6:40:44 AM  
If they were waiting for black Friday to try and get a deal they're morons. Apple doesn't have sales. Just like Nintendo.

The Switch has been out for almost 6 years and it's still $300. The "black Friday deal" retailers are advertising is a Switch with a download for Mario Kart 8 for $300. Which is standard.
 
2022-11-26 6:44:56 AM  
The fact that people are willing to shell out over $1,100 twice a year just have have the latest iPhone makes me think of Apples users the same way I thought of David Koresh followers.
 
2022-11-26 6:45:46 AM  
Just wait two weeks for the next version to come out.
 
2022-11-26 6:49:52 AM  
Verizon and AT&T snapped them all up for new customers.

/Not a fanboi.
 
2022-11-26 6:51:22 AM  
What does the IPhony do that my S21Plus can't do?
 
2022-11-26 6:51:38 AM  

Sexy Jesus: NotCodger: I have seen stories during the past few weeks about  the window closing to be able to get a new iPhone before Christmas. The last one said delivery dates are now into January. If people are showing up expecting phones to be in stock at stores, they're not paying attention.

Apple people would need some sort of bloatware to make them aware, and remind them, of that.


"MacWorld", Safari or any other browser for free
 
2022-11-26 7:04:15 AM  
Ordered a new iPhone 14 Pro yesterday from my carrier, not because "ermagurd it's Black Friday!!11!!one!!!11", but because I had the day off and it was a convenient day to go.  Earliest I could get one was early January.  Don't really care about the delay as I just need a better camera than my phone offers by spring.

/if you're looking to get specific electronics by Christmas, you're probably already too late
 
2022-11-26 7:09:49 AM  
Well we can't except American kids to do it, because this was all they could come up with
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2022-11-26 7:17:16 AM  
We can't make them here.
Americans don't want to do the work that Chinese child labor will do.
 
2022-11-26 7:20:38 AM  
TFA: Among them were Sally Gannon and her son Michael, who were visiting an Apple store in Bethesda, where they found no iPhone Pros in stock.

Don't worry! There's prolly gonna be a fan-mod real soon that patches this glitch!! ;-P
 
2022-11-26 7:23:52 AM  

wrenchboy: What does the IPhony do that my S21Plus can't do?


Generate a smugness aura?
 
2022-11-26 7:33:28 AM  
I will NEVER own any phone with an OLED screen.  LCD only for me.

Plus, since I use Android, I simply buy a new Motorola phone every 3 years or so for about $300.  LCD screens don't burn in or degrade over that timeframe.
 
2022-11-26 7:38:58 AM  
You all need android!
 
2022-11-26 7:52:31 AM  

alice_600: You all need android!


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Not me, I'm insured against just the thing, whippersnapper.
 
2022-11-26 7:58:04 AM  

Thoreny: This is 100% _______'s fault for relying so much on China to produce their goods.

The lack of supply chain diversity really screwed them over when Covid hit.


Applies all over actually.
 
2022-11-26 8:03:06 AM  

anticontent: More free time for them to shoot up a school, synagogue, or drag queen story hour.


Huh. That's an interesting response. Is there some sort of correlation between MAGA idiots and iPhones?
 
2022-11-26 8:06:15 AM  
Well darn. After years of Android, I decided to try Apple and bought the 14 Pro.  I hated it and sold it to a friend for a $200 loss. Now I find out that I could have sold it to some random fan boy for a $200 profit?

Thanks, Fark. I could have celebrated with $400 worth of booze.  Now, I'll just drink $400 of everyday booze.
 
2022-11-26 8:34:50 AM  

Thoreny: This is 100% Apple's fault for relying so much on China to produce their goods.

The lack of supply chain diversity really screwed them over when Covid hit.


Now repeat that for almost every product made.
People want to pay less and companies want to make more.
I have tried several times to source manufacturers if the US and my cost to produce is higher than the competitors sale price.  Very tough to compete in most markets without China in your supply chain.
 
2022-11-26 8:35:40 AM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: If they were waiting for black Friday to try and get a deal they're morons. Apple doesn't have sales. Just like Nintendo.

The Switch has been out for almost 6 years and it's still $300. The "black Friday deal" retailers are advertising is a Switch with a download for Mario Kart 8 for $300. Which is standard.


My niece just bought a switch last night online.  Someone has them.
 
2022-11-26 8:36:31 AM  

edmo: Thoreny: This is 100% _______'s fault for relying so much on China to produce their goods.

The lack of supply chain diversity really screwed them over when Covid hit.

Applies all over actually.


China has turned the insanity level to 11, complete with total-lockdown factory gulags.
 
2022-11-26 8:37:59 AM  

wrenchboy: What does the IPhony do that my S21Plus can't do?


Group chats with a large amount of apply users.
That's the only reason I got my kids eyephones, so they can be in all the friend chats.   Yes I know there are ways around it but 12 to 18 year old ar not going through the hassle.
Also my brother got one for work, he hates it and still uses his old phone most of the time.
 
2022-11-26 8:40:09 AM  
Shares of Apple ended down 2.0% after its supplier Foxconn flagged on Friday that iPhone production could be further hit due to worker unrest at the plant

wait till after nap time, they will be rested and back to work
 
2022-11-26 9:04:14 AM  
Well surely Foxconn can step up production at their brand new facility in Wisconsin. Another Trump success story.
 
2022-11-26 9:05:08 AM  

NotCodger: I have seen stories during the past few weeks about  the window closing to be able to get a new iPhone before Christmas. The last one said delivery dates are now into January. If people are showing up expecting phones to be in stock at stores, they're not paying attention.


You'd think that with all the experience they've have with previous iPhone releases, that they would know better.
 
2022-11-26 9:16:57 AM  

lilbjorn: Well surely Foxconn can step up production at their brand new facility in Wisconsin. Another Trump success story.


That was a Walker special. Way before the fat guy sat in the Oval Office.

Funny thing is a decade later there are still people who Believe there is some mythical employer in Mt Pleasant, WI (pop 26k), that employs like 40,000 people. Apparently they are really happy and never quit, or retire, or die, because there's never any job openings there.
 
2022-11-26 9:18:57 AM  

The Official Fark Cajun: The fact that people are willing to shell out over $1,100 twice a year just have have the latest iPhone makes me think of Apples users the same way I thought of David Koresh followers.


How much was Koresh charging?
 
2022-11-26 9:25:25 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: lilbjorn: Well surely Foxconn can step up production at their brand new facility in Wisconsin. Another Trump success story.

That was a Walker special. Way before the fat guy sat in the Oval Office.

Funny thing is a decade later there are still people who Believe there is some mythical employer in Mt Pleasant, WI (pop 26k), that employs like 40,000 people. Apparently they are really happy and never quit, or retire, or die, because there's never any job openings there.


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2022-11-26 9:33:13 AM  

NotCodger: I have seen stories during the past few weeks about  the window closing to be able to get a new iPhone before Christmas. The last one said delivery dates are now into January. If people are showing up expecting phones to be in stock at stores, they're not paying attention.


Are you under the impression that people are paying attention?
 
2022-11-26 9:38:40 AM  
This is a bummer story to see because we're switching carriers today, and I'm hoping to get an iPhone 14.  Not the Pro, or Max, or Plus.  Just the regular 14.  I'm still using a 5 year old iPhone xR right now.  I like it just fine, and I don't usually update my phone until my current one is far enough behind that it's lacking a primary feature.  Like 5G; I feel that I'm missing out on those mind control nanobots or whatever I get with 5G.
 
2022-11-26 9:40:56 AM  

edmo: Thoreny: This is 100% _______'s fault for relying so much on China to produce their goods.

The lack of supply chain diversity really screwed them over when Covid hit.

Applies all over actually.


They've had a plant in Cork Co. Ireland since the 80's. I've had a Irish MacPlus in my Attic for awhile now.
 
2022-11-26 9:42:34 AM  

wrenchboy: What does the IPhony do that my S21Plus can't do?


Make you feel smug and superior?
 
2022-11-26 9:52:47 AM  
The complete lack of knowledge on Apple and retail in this thread is, even by Fark standards, staggeringly bad.

I'm referring to comments by you, you, you, and you - not you.
 
2022-11-26 9:53:29 AM  

The Official Fark Cajun: The fact that people are willing to shell out over $1,100 twice a year just have have the latest iPhone makes me think of Apples users the same way I thought of David Koresh followers.


People do that with Androids too... but that said, people who swap phones that fast are usually either leasing them, or paying an installment plan that allows them to trade them in to the carrier.  Even if they buy them outright from the Apple store, they can get a trade in credit.

I buy my phones directly from the apple store, and generally keep them for 4 or more years years.  Most folks I know keep their iPhones for years - they're pretty durableAnd, they keep getting OS updates for years...  I've heard that Android updates stop flowing to phones after as few as 3 years, but I'll leave the details on that to those of you who know them better.

The only reason I replaced my iPhone 8 was because I wanted the better camera of the 13 PRO and access to the 5G bands.

/had Blackberries way back.  They used to have carrier installed garbage that you couldn't delete.  The mobile network operator has no business installing anything on my phone beyond the basic carrier settings.
 
2022-11-26 10:01:55 AM  

krispos42: wrenchboy: What does the IPhony do that my S21Plus can't do?

Make you feel smug and superior?


That's the thing I've never understood about the cult of Apple, and people getting the newest phone every time they bring out a new one.  Is it like owning an expensive watch or a luxury vehicle, that someone expects people to see it and be impressed?  I only stick with Apple because it's what I'm familiar with, and I don't feel like putting the effort into learning a new phone.  Mrs. Bugman switched over to a Z-Fold after years of iPhones, and it took a while for her to get used to it, and she's thinking about changing back now that Apple has some larger screen phones.  And to that end, I'm a grouchy old man who gets irked when Apple changes stuff and it's not an intuitive change; like making the power button not the power button any more.

/get off my lawn
//I need that space
///to yell at clouds
 
2022-11-26 10:07:54 AM  

MDI_BugMan: This is a bummer story to see because we're switching carriers today, and I'm hoping to get an iPhone 14.  Not the Pro, or Max, or Plus.  Just the regular 14.  I'm still using a 5 year old iPhone xR right now.  I like it just fine, and I don't usually update my phone until my current one is far enough behind that it's lacking a primary feature.  Like 5G; I feel that I'm missing out on those mind control nanobots or whatever I get with 5G.


I just went to Apple.Com and ran through a "purchase" of the regular 14.  It's showing as available for pickup today in the greater DMV (at least the Reston and Annapolis stores, didn't try others), and available for delivery by courier within two hours.  The 14 PRO shows the earliest delivery as Dec 28. 

For my carrier (T-Mobile), the 5G definitely seems to help.  My wife's phone doesn't have 5G service, and there are definitely times when I can get a signal and she can't.  I suspect they're decomissioning older transceivers when they add 5G, and better 5G coverage comes at the expense of LTE and EDGE towers on the periphery.
 
2022-11-26 10:19:50 AM  

wrenchboy: What does the IPhony do that my S21Plus can't do?


Battery runs out more quickly?
 
2022-11-26 10:27:54 AM  

Tentacle: The Official Fark Cajun: The fact that people are willing to shell out over $1,100 twice a year just have have the latest iPhone makes me think of Apples users the same way I thought of David Koresh followers.

How much was Koresh charging?


Less than Apple.
 
2022-11-26 10:30:53 AM  

The Official Fark Cajun: I will NEVER own any phone with an OLED screen.  LCD only for me.

Plus, since I use Android, I simply buy a new Motorola phone every 3 years or so for about $300.  LCD screens don't burn in or degrade over that timeframe.


My first smartphone was Android, and it was always Android until this year. I'd put Cyanogenmod on my phone, and change things and was "Android always!"

Then Cyan stopped supporting Android, smartphone makers like Moto were releasing new phones with outdated, security lacking OSs (the company even said their customers didn't care about OS updates). Few of the Android making companies supported their phones for longer than three years, and even a Picel phone didn't have much trade in value.

At least with my iPhone, it'll be supported for five years (reduced e-waste), and the OS will be updated. Yea, I paid more than I preferred upfront for my phone, but I'll get to hold onto it for awhile.
 
2022-11-26 10:31:36 AM  

MDI_BugMan: krispos42: wrenchboy: What does the IPhony do that my S21Plus can't do?

Make you feel smug and superior?

That's the thing I've never understood about the cult of Apple, and people getting the newest phone every time they bring out a new one.  Is it like owning an expensive watch or a luxury vehicle, that someone expects people to see it and be impressed?  I only stick with Apple because it's what I'm familiar with, and I don't feel like putting the effort into learning a new phone.  Mrs. Bugman switched over to a Z-Fold after years of iPhones, and it took a while for her to get used to it, and she's thinking about changing back now that Apple has some larger screen phones.  And to that end, I'm a grouchy old man who gets irked when Apple changes stuff and it's not an intuitive change; like making the power button not the power button any more.

/get off my lawn
//I need that space
///to yell at clouds


It's not like it's a luxury item.  If you want a Rolex over a generic Seiko, you're paying *MINIMUM* 10 times the cost:

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Want a BMW 5 Series over a Honda Accord?  Double the price.

A Galaxy and comparable iPhone usually run about the same price.  The only real difference is that the iPhone SE ($429-579) doesn't go as far into the cheap seats as the Galaxy A series ($159-$499 depending on model).

I suspect a $300 phone isn't lasting you four years with continuous OS updates and full app support, so you'll be replacing it sooner.  Comparing Apples to apples, there's no real snob appeal with iOS devices except in the minds of insecure Android users who are obsessed with the idea that someone else "thinks they're better'n me!"  Practically nobody with an iPhone cares*. 

*The only caveats being:
- Tweens and teens.  But, they're dumb anyway.
- Group texts are annoying when you add an Android to the mix, but it's usually easy enough to jump to FB Messenger or Signal
- There's a bit of a stigma in the dating world - think of it like the camo baseball cap and wraparound mirrored sunglasses over a ruddy complexion, or a bleached blonde short-in-the-back Karen cut.  It's not a guarantee that the person is going to spout some really stupid shiat, but it feels a lot more probable.
 
2022-11-26 10:37:47 AM  
"I can't understand why anyone would want to get an expensive smartphone every year. That's totally stupid - such a waste of money!"

[Takes sip from $12 can of microbrew]
 
2022-11-26 10:38:18 AM  

Izunbacol: It's not like it's a luxury item. If you want a Rolex over a generic Seiko, you're paying *MINIMUM* 10 times the cost:


Both are ugly AF.

/but that wasn't your point
 
2022-11-26 10:46:09 AM  

wrenchboy: What does the IPhony do that my S21Plus can't do?


It comes with more smug, but ot much
 
2022-11-26 10:51:07 AM  

Skwrl: anticontent: More free time for them to shoot up a school, synagogue, or drag queen story hour.

Huh. That's an interesting response. Is there some sort of correlation between MAGA idiots and iPhones?


For some people everything has to do with Trump.  50 years from now they will be raging to their grandchildren all about how the cold fusion plant is making their flying car's left turn signal stay on and it's all Trump's fault. Then the grandkids will force grandpa back into his vr gear where he can yell at the virtual clouds.
 
2022-11-26 10:56:56 AM  

Latinwolf: NotCodger: I have seen stories during the past few weeks about  the window closing to be able to get a new iPhone before Christmas. The last one said delivery dates are now into January. If people are showing up expecting phones to be in stock at stores, they're not paying attention.

You'd think that with all the experience they've have with previous iPhone releases, that they would know better.


It's a feature, not a bug
 
2022-11-26 10:57:30 AM  
I thought Fark had finally gotten over Apple vs Android. Apparently the old standby still works.

/ iPhone 12
// I don't care what phone you have
 
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