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2022-11-26 12:45:28 AM  
I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.
 
2022-11-26 1:56:37 AM  

Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers.


That's built into the legislation.

An  inquiry held: After the emergency has ended, the Emergencies Act requires the Government to hold an  inquiry, and table a report to each House of Parliament within three hundred and sixty days after expiration or revocation of the declaration of emergency.

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2022/02/canadas-emergencies-act.html
 
2022-11-26 2:32:28 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers.

That's built into the legislation.

An  inquiry held: After the emergency has ended, the Emergencies Act requires the Government to hold an  inquiry, and table a report to each House of Parliament within three hundred and sixty days after expiration or revocation of the declaration of emergency.

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2022/02/canadas-emergencies-act.html


Nice. That's how it should be.
 
2022-11-26 6:27:24 AM  
And not a peep out of the CPC
 
2022-11-26 6:50:24 AM  
This all could have been avoided by a generous application of water cannons.  And not even on jet levels.  Just a nice constant sprinkle.

At -20C no one would have stuck around.
 
2022-11-26 6:51:39 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC


Thus far the inquiry has been a resounding "every layer of law enforcement and government below the feds failed miserably to do their goddamned jobs, either due to political cowardice, outright sabotage from sympathetic insiders, or both."

The feds invoking the emergencies act shouldn't have needed to happen.  But after a farking month of laughably pathetic failure of leadership from everyone else, SOMEONE needed to be the adult in the room.
 
2022-11-26 6:57:21 AM  

Lexx: Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC

Thus far the inquiry has been a resounding "every layer of law enforcement and government below the feds failed miserably to do their goddamned jobs, either due to political cowardice, outright sabotage from sympathetic insiders, or both."

The feds invoking the emergencies act shouldn't have needed to happen.  But after a farking month of laughably pathetic failure of leadership from everyone else, SOMEONE needed to be the adult in the room.


Must be why a certain poster is all angry about it. People being adults must infringe on his MAH FREEDUMBS!
 
2022-11-26 7:08:28 AM  
Trudeau and Canada are just standing their ground.
 
2022-11-26 7:22:32 AM  

Lexx: Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC

Thus far the inquiry has been a resounding "every layer of law enforcement and government below the feds failed miserably to do their goddamned jobs, either due to political cowardice, outright sabotage from sympathetic insiders, or both."

The feds invoking the emergencies act shouldn't have needed to happen.  But after a farking month of laughably pathetic failure of leadership from everyone else, SOMEONE needed to be the adult in the room.


Yup. That's why Jabba the Doug is to chicken shiat to show up. He knows he'll be roasted like a Swiss Chalet chicken.
 
2022-11-26 7:23:47 AM  

Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.


I think that the reason for that is that everyone thinks that those emergency powers will be used to help their side, no matter which one that is.
 
2022-11-26 7:26:13 AM  

Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.


I'm sure that you wouldn't apply this anything that Biden has tried to do in U.S., such as usurping Congress' power of the purse in the name of the pandemic, after declaring it over.

We need legislatures that are more nimble, to prevent executive overreach in the name of an emergency.

All emergency powers should require regular renewal by Congress. No law should be vague about executive authority. Neither party seems to want this in the U.S. when they control both Congress, and presidency, but we need it.
 
2022-11-26 7:27:49 AM  

Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.


Provinces can invoke the notwithstanding clause whenever they like with no limits or accountability beyond angry popular sentiment.  Ontario and Quebec have done this a few times in the past couple years.  It's bullshiat of the highest order.
 
2022-11-26 7:32:02 AM  
"It wasn't that they just wanted to be heard. They wanted to be obeyed,"

Nailed it!  That's the stupid irony of all these "freedom" jackholes - none of them believe in freedom at all.
 
2022-11-26 7:36:31 AM  

NephilimNexus: "It wasn't that they just wanted to be heard. They wanted to be obeyed,"

Nailed it!  That's the stupid irony of all these "freedom" jackholes - none of them believe in freedom at all.


This is a good time to mention that Hillary called them "a basket of deplorables" once, and MGT is trying to sue her for it.  Biden called them all semi-fascists, and they were screaming to every press agent that would listen that they demand an apology.
 
2022-11-26 7:37:25 AM  

durbnpoisn: NephilimNexus: "It wasn't that they just wanted to be heard. They wanted to be obeyed,"

Nailed it!  That's the stupid irony of all these "freedom" jackholes - none of them believe in freedom at all.

This is a good time to mention that Hillary called them "a basket of deplorables" once, and MGT is trying to sue her for it.  Biden called them all semi-fascists, and they were screaming to every press agent that would listen that they demand an apology.


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2022-11-26 7:41:16 AM  
Any use of such powers should always come under proper scrunity and review... but the morons in question beseiged a major city, so I don't think they're going to find said usage unjustified.
 
2022-11-26 7:43:32 AM  

Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.


You sound very concerned.
 
2022-11-26 7:44:34 AM  

trerro: Any use of such powers should always come under proper scrunity and review... but the morons in question beseiged a major city, so I don't think they're going to find said usage unjustified.


Minor quibble: it needs to be good faith scrutiny and review, and that is something conservatives are incapable of providing.
 
2022-11-26 7:50:03 AM  
Should have done it around the 10 day mark.

A week, get it out of your system.
Day 8, sorry, but please go home.
Day 9, wrap it up assholes.
Day 10, GET THE FARK OUT, HOSERS.
 
2022-11-26 7:56:38 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC


It's a farking IBT article.  It's Russian nonsense.
 
2022-11-26 7:59:08 AM  

Lexx: Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC

Thus far the inquiry has been a resounding "every layer of law enforcement and government below the feds failed miserably to do their goddamned jobs, either due to political cowardice, outright sabotage from sympathetic insiders, or both."

The feds invoking the emergencies act shouldn't have needed to happen.  But after a farking month of laughably pathetic failure of leadership from everyone else, SOMEONE needed to be the adult in the room.


THIS!
 
2022-11-26 8:00:13 AM  

Sexy Jesus: Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.

You sound very concerned.


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2022-11-26 8:04:00 AM  

goodncold: This all could have been avoided by a generous application of water cannons.  And not even on jet levels.  Just a nice constant sprinkle.

At -20C no one would have stuck around.


That's always been a good look for law enforcement.
 
2022-11-26 8:24:31 AM  
*shrugs* The moment that crowd flew the nazi flag, use of the emergency powers act became justified. Those assholes were still treated very gently.
 
2022-11-26 8:31:54 AM  

GoldSpider: goodncold: This all could have been avoided by a generous application of water cannons.  And not even on jet levels.  Just a nice constant sprinkle.

At -20C no one would have stuck around.

That's always been a good look for law enforcement.


I would have been happy to do it for them. Heck.  I would have paid $20 to hose
down those hosers.
 
2022-11-26 8:33:38 AM  
The next time someone tries to tell you that Trudeau is a megalomaniacal dictator, ask them if dictators tend to voluntarily appear at public inquiries into the use of their powers.
 
2022-11-26 8:38:31 AM  
This is the "movement" that came out of Alberta.  Has anyone discovered the Cancun connection?
 
2022-11-26 8:57:35 AM  

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: The next time someone tries to tell you that Trudeau is a megalomaniacal dictator, ask them if dictators tend to voluntarily appear at public inquiries into the use of their powers.


Especially since Doug Ford refused, with the court's backing.
 
2022-11-26 9:00:45 AM  

Lexx: Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC

Thus far the inquiry has been a resounding "every layer of law enforcement and government below the feds failed miserably to do their goddamned jobs, either due to political cowardice, outright sabotage from sympathetic insiders, or both."

The feds invoking the emergencies act shouldn't have needed to happen.  But after a farking month of laughably pathetic failure of leadership from everyone else, SOMEONE needed to be the adult in the room.


Not to mention when the head of your IC tells you that this shiat needs to be shut down, you shut it down.
 
2022-11-26 9:19:23 AM  

Animatronik: I'm sure that you wouldn't apply this anything that Biden has tried to do in U.S., such as usurping Congress' power of the purse in the name of the pandemic, after declaring it over.


This thing that didn't happen, or this thing that you're going to make up to be mad about?

Whichever it is, die mad about it.
 
2022-11-26 9:46:36 AM  
Trudeau defends using emergency powers against morons

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2022-11-26 9:59:30 AM  
"others said Trudeau had not read a plan prepared by Ottawa Police "

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2022-11-26 10:06:37 AM  

goodncold: This all could have been avoided by a generous application of water cannons.  And not even on jet levels.  Just a nice constant sprinkle.

At -20C no one would have stuck around.


Or just letting health care be a personal thing, even if idiots die.
 
2022-11-26 10:21:46 AM  

azwethnkweiz: goodncold: This all could have been avoided by a generous application of water cannons.  And not even on jet levels.  Just a nice constant sprinkle.

At -20C no one would have stuck around.

Or just letting health care be a personal thing, even if idiots die.


infectious diseases, especially those communicable by the air, are a private personal choice.  Got it.
 
2022-11-26 10:22:50 AM  

BitwiseShift: This is the "movement" that came out of Alberta.  Has anyone discovered the Cancun connection?


You mean other than when he told Fox News "The Canadian truckers are heroes, they are patriots and they are marching for your freedom and for my freedom", or when he demanded the FTC investigate GoFundMe for following their own platform's TOS on not funding harassment?

There's a more direct line to Mike Flynn, who encouraged his sycophants to donate to (and it was later determined that 44% of the donations on one platform came from the US). 45**, MTG, Rand Paul, Ken Paxton, and of course Hannity and Cucker Tarlson also all had toxic stupidity fall out of their faceholes on the subject.

At the very least the GOP considers the movement to be chock full of useful (to them) idiots.
 
2022-11-26 10:24:25 AM  

Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.


That's part of the deal.  If the act is invoked, a comprehensive review is subsequently required by law.
 
2022-11-26 10:41:24 AM  
Too bad he didn't use his emergency powers to send these folks to some obscure location deep in the Canadian Arctic to permafreeze.
 
2022-11-26 10:44:11 AM  

bluorangefyre: Too bad he didn't use his emergency powers to send these folks to some obscure location deep in the Canadian Arctic to permafreeze.


The people in Nunavut have enough to worry about without us littering their area with dim white trash.
 
2022-11-26 10:46:00 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC


They're trying to find the sock puppets and crayons to explain it to Pierre Poilievre. He keeps eating the crayons.
 
2022-11-26 10:55:37 AM  

Sexy Jesus: Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.

You sound very concerned.


You sound like someone who doesn't care.  Quick: Donald Trump gets elected again and throws a temper tantrum because someone wrote bad things about him on the intarwebs. The FBI is authorized to search your house to find the perp.

Concerned yet? I don't know why people think that abuses of power will only ever benefit them, but you're clearly one of them.
 
2022-11-26 11:03:40 AM  
I still think the decisions around giving continued access to fuel to stay warm in their trucks was a mistake.
 
2022-11-26 11:09:13 AM  

Lsherm: Sexy Jesus: Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers. We don't seem to have any problem abusing emergency powers here in the US for whatever ends any given president wants to use them for, and that should scare the entire country. Yet it doesn't.

You sound very concerned.

You sound like someone who doesn't care.  Quick: Donald Trump gets elected again and throws a temper tantrum because someone wrote bad things about him on the intarwebs. The FBI is authorized to search your house to find the perp.

Concerned yet? I don't know why people think that abuses of power will only ever benefit them, but you're clearly one of them.


What the actual fark are you even ranting about?
What abuses of power and from what side are you taking about?

It's farking 11AM on a Saturday, calm the fark down and stop pissing your pants.
 
2022-11-26 11:14:13 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: "others said Trudeau had not read a plan prepared by Ottawa Police "

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To be fair, their plan was written in crayon on the back of a placemat and consisted of a drawing of their police chief with an X across him.  It really wasn't worth reading.
 
2022-11-26 11:16:52 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Lsherm: I used to think Canada wouldn't care about this shiat, but it's good they're at least reviewing his use of emergency powers.

That's built into the legislation.

An  inquiry held: After the emergency has ended, the Emergencies Act requires the Government to hold an  inquiry, and table a report to each House of Parliament within three hundred and sixty days after expiration or revocation of the declaration of emergency.

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2022/02/canadas-emergencies-act.html


"OmG wHaT a TyRaNt!!1!"

If the idiot right had any amount of y'know, knowledge, they'd know an actual tyrant wouldn't be farked with sitting down for an inquiry like this.
 
2022-11-26 11:18:47 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC


Doesn't fit their "he's a TyRaNt!1!" narrative when the dude sits down and answered questions re his "tyrannical" use of power
 
2022-11-26 11:19:38 AM  

Lexx: The feds invoking the emergencies act shouldn't have needed to happen.


Yes there's an easy argument that the failed police response was itself a dimension of the emergency. If there's an occupation in the center of your capital city, and police fail or refuse to address it, you might call the collapse of law enforcement a justification for the use of emergency powers.
 
2022-11-26 11:22:30 AM  

Ragin' Asian: Trudeau and Canada are just standing their ground.


The "left" - so much as you can call the federal liberals that - is NEVER supposed to be the ones fighting back or standing their ground!

Don't you know this?
 
2022-11-26 11:23:14 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: "others said Trudeau had not read a plan prepared by Ottawa Police "


His response to that was perfect.
"No one else read it either because they didn't have a plan."
 
2022-11-26 11:25:45 AM  

Lexx: Tr0mBoNe: And not a peep out of the CPC

Thus far the inquiry has been a resounding "every layer of law enforcement and government below the feds failed miserably to do their goddamned jobs, either due to political cowardice, outright sabotage from sympathetic insiders, or both."

The feds invoking the emergencies act shouldn't have needed to happen.  But after a farking month of laughably pathetic failure of leadership from everyone else, SOMEONE needed to be the adult in the room.


When Trudeau is the one that has to be the adult in the room you know you really farked up.
 
2022-11-26 11:30:12 AM  
A lot of dark money has been used to redefine what "freedom" means, and not in a good way.
 
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