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(CNN)   Day 274 of WW3: Ukraine under another barrage of strikes that affects critical infrastructure in areas as far west as Lviv and killed 7+ in Kyiv region. The city braces for worst winter since World War II. It's your Thursday Ukraine war discussion   (cnn.com) divider line
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6 days ago  
Happy Thanksgiving to all, and may your drug-induced Tryptophan Dreams be nice.

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6 days ago  
1) F*ck Russia.
2) My relatives are from the Lviv area.
 
6 days ago  
<approaches podium, puts on reading glasses>

Good morning everyone. Happy Thanksgiving to the 'mEricans in thread. its thanksgiving there right?

Valenumr dropped this towards the end of the last thread:

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Orcs be redeployin' and re-enforcin'. Let's hope Himars o'clock gets to re-crashin and re-smashin'.

Grumbleputty got 4 of the 5 hookas assembled and put up along the wall under the windows. Please remember to tip the windows tho, so the air remains breathable. I mean I like the pumpkin spice latte hookah tobacco smell but when it mixes with "sour apple" and whatever the hell that "frozen ice" is supposed to smell like, well, its starting to smell like a headshop in here.

Also, if John Hopoate ever invites you to his home, never, ever accept his invitation to look in the basement or under the stairs. Just sayin'. Just stay upstairs and drink his booze then find a reason to leave before that conversation starts. And don't touch any shovels.

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And in foot news, I have one more week before going back in. Bandage change this morning looked good. So, much like the UA forces in Bakmut, the line is holding. I'm also getting a box of beer delivered over the next 2 hrs (if DHL email notifications are to be believed), so look for me to finally be kinda hammered tonight. All the Christmas beers are out and my local shops haven't had anything of interest so I had to order it. I'll post pictures in about 4hrs when its 1600/beer o'clock. Woot. Go me? Go me.

Oh and for lunch the wife and I made "Mongolian beef", you guys ever make that? Its so easy. Feel kinda dumb it too me so long to make this. Its just ginger garlic soysauce and brown sugar. Super easy. So there's a tub of that in the back next to the rice cooker and some kung pao tofu for the vegans/veggies/beef haters.

Keep Calm and Slava Ukraini.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1595720663427334144?t=0zsgyg5d83_ts8dmoHkcrA&s=19

Nikol Pashinyan refused to sign a declaration following the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) summit.
In fact, it means that the CSTO has collapsed completely.
Putin dropped his pen, Lukashenko is shocked.

Ed: lol lmao
 
6 days ago  
Time to start cooking those mashed potatoes i told you all about!

I'm thankful for all you freaking weirdos.
 
6 days ago  

Tr0mBoNe: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1595720663427334144?t=0zsgyg5d83_ts8dmoHkcrA&s=19

Nikol Pashinyan refused to sign a declaration following the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) summit.
In fact, it means that the CSTO has collapsed completely.
Putin dropped his pen, Lukashenko is shocked.

Ed: lol lmao


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From that thread
 
6 days ago  
Also worth mentioning that it's the 90th anniversary of the Holodomor and 9 months into the start of this 'not a war'
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
Thanksgiving in November? What is this crazy talk. It's in October like any sane country would have it.

/Kidding my southern cousins.
//enjoy Turkey day, and take care y'all.
 
6 days ago  

Father_Jack: <approaches podium, puts on reading glasses>

Good morning everyone. Happy Thanksgiving to the 'mEricans in thread. its thanksgiving there right?

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My contributions to the Thanksgiving feast are spicy refrigerator pickles and, in honor of FJ's *ahem* predilections, some chocolate chip cookies that could be described as goth Latinas. Dark chocolate chips (goth) with cinnamon and whatever spice was left on my hands after slicing up the jalapeños (so mole-adjacent and therefore Latina). I would have made full-blown mole style, but my friend's mother-in-law would riot if "Cookie Guy" showed up with anything other than his normal recipe.

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6 days ago  
For those of you new to the Ukrainian War threads or who are only able to check them occasionally, here's my post summarizing the WW3 threads for November 12 to November 18 and the welfare check ins. Had to split them due to the number of links in the update.

Oneiros should be around to post the most up-to-date list of aid links, but here's the most recent list which should be mostly fresh until he is. Older summaries along with an archive of threads can be found here in a spreadsheet being maintained by notmyjab if you need to catch up on that. Specific posts are under the "articles" tab. And if you need a good laugh, check out danceswithcrow's meme emporium.

As always, let me know if there's anything more to include that I missed and help me keep an eye out over the upcoming week for key events.
 
6 days ago  

Tracianne: Tr0mBoNe: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1595720663427334144?t=0zsgyg5d83_ts8dmoHkcrA&s=19

Nikol Pashinyan refused to sign a declaration following the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) summit.
In fact, it means that the CSTO has collapsed completely.
Putin dropped his pen, Lukashenko is shocked.

Ed: lol lmao

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Nice catch!

Good morning everyone!

As is the tradition of my people, I have brought donuts. Note the ziggurat of pumpkin spice donuts in the back.Yes, I have been called a "basic biatch" for loving pumpkin spice, but the haters can suck it.

Someone needs to go on an egg nog run though, I spaced that.


I'm proofing my turkey day special, have that posted up here shortly.


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6 days ago  
Ukraine aid links

A month and a half into the war (day 44), many of us felt helpless and listless at not being able to do more to help, so here is a list of things that we can do.

There are plenty of charities that could use your help, but even if you don't have spare cash lying about, there are still things you can do, so keep reading


You can donate directly to Ukraine if you want to help them make more videos of tanks blowing up. (See 'military aid' below)

There are lots of humanitarian groups working to feed the displaced people and even their pets.  (See 'humanitarian aid')

And even if you're not in a position to give cash, you might be able to find a group that needs some volunteer help or attend a protest.  If you don't have a group in your area specifically helping Ukraine, you can likely still find other worthwhile causes.  And there are groups that have tasks that can be done online or over the phone without even leaving your home. (See 'other notes'). Even just calling politicians to remind them that we need to support Ukrainians.

You can call out dumbasses online who are spreading russian propaganda and otherwise spewing toxic crap.  (Or join groups like NAFO) And by ignoring or blocking the assholes on here who try that shiat. (Make sure to watch for other threads, not just the daily one)

And you can even support capitalism, and buy stuff made in Ukraine or are fundraisers for the war effort.  (See 'buying stuff')

This is in no way a comprehensive list.  This is just groups that Farkers have mentioned in past threads.  (Which I had to start trimming to comply with Fark's 100 link limit per comment). If you want a more comprehensive list, see https://supportukrainenow.org . They also have links to specific groups by country that you're coming from for protests, taking in refugees, etc.  You might also find interesting charities at https://standwithukraine.today/ukrainian-charities/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/tgc00n/want_to_support_ukraine_heres_a_list_of_charities/

I make no claims about any of these groups.  I've trimmed a few that people have said might be suspect, but I have no personal knowledge of any of them.  If you feel the need to vet them before donating, see GuideStar or Charity Navigator. (Links to them below)

If you're currently employed by a large-ish company, they may have a donation matching program.  You can check https://doublethedonation.com/ but it's also worth contacting your HR to ask even if they're not listed there.

Brits and such should consider donating to UK charities as they can get 25% 'Gift Aid' matching from the UK government.

If you've gained profits from stocks, consider donating the stocks directly, so they get the full value and you don't need to hold some back to pay capital gain taxes.

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Military aid (or mixed with a military component):

United24, the central Ukrainian website for donations for defense, de-mining, medical aid, and rebuilding:  https://u24.gov.ua

Come Back Alive:  https://www.comebackalive.in.ua

Prytula Foundation (includes lists of needed supplies):  https://prytulafoundation.org/en

Stavnitser Foundation (support for female troops) : https://stavnitser.com/en

Unite with Ukraine: https://www.unitewithukraine.com

Army SOS: https://armysos.com.ua

For Americans who want a 501(c)3:
Liberty Ukraine: https://www.libertyukraine.org
Volunteers for Ukraine:  https://volunteerforukraine.org/donate/


Humanitarian aid:

Disasters Emergency Committee (UK): https://donation.dec.org.uk/ukraine-humanitarian-appeal

Supplies to Ukrainians who stayed: https://beaheroua.org/en/

Helping amputees: https://www.limbcare.org

Teenager filling backpacks for refugee kids: https://f-df.pl/2022/08/09/f-df-pl-kidsforkids/

World Central Kitchen:  https://donate.wck.org/give/393234/#!/donation/checkout

Doctors Without Borders: https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/get-involved/ways-to-give

Kids with cancer: https://tabletochki.org/en/

Books for kids: https://www.bettertimestories.com

Help Ukrainians with disabilities: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-disabled-ukrainians

Ukraine Children's Action Project: https://www.eifoundation.org/partners/ukraine-childrens-action-project/

Direct Relief: https://www.directrelief.org/emergency/ukraine-crisis/

Voices of Children:  https://voices.org.ua/en/

Razom for Ukraine: https://www.razomforukraine.org

Klitschko Foundation: https://www.klitschkofoundation.org/en/

Save Our Allies: https://saveourallies.org

Myria Aid:  https://www.mriyaaid.org

Ukraine Aid Ops:  https://www.amazon.com/registries/custom/HMNYO2ISQGNP

UNICEF:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chloesorvino/2022/11/07/jos-andrs-has-some-things-to-get-off-his-chest-as-world-central-kitchen-prepares-for-brutal-ukraine-winter/?sh=30f088451fd5

A Kyiv bakery distributing bread to people in need:  https://eng.goodbread.com.ua

Ukrainian Emergency Art Fund:  https://ueaf.moca.org.ua

Canadian-Ukraine Foundation:  https://www.cufoundation.ca

US-Ukraine Foundation: https://usukraine.org

Animal welfare groups operating in Ukraine (or Poland for refugees with pets):  https://happypaw.ua/en/ ;
https://www.ifaw.org/action/ukraine-emergency-aid-update ;  https://www.facebook.com/shelterFriendDnepr ;  https://www.karg.kiev.ua/https://animal-id.net/en/donate

Rebuilding-specific groups:
Sports gyms for kids: https://www.flyhigh.fund
Farmers / rural: https://www.wrru.org
De-mining: https://halotrust.org
Humans: https://zelenskafoundation.org/en
Injured: https://www.superhumans.com
Students: https://ukraineachievementfund.org

Refugee assistance:
Halifax: https://www.halifax-ukrainian-store.ca/donate
Niagara: https://amdforhope.com/
New York: https://www.ukrainianhabitatfund.org/donate


Other notes & ways to help:

If you know any Ukrainians in need, give them this link: https://mobile.twitter.com/Flash43191300/status/1558794397868859393
(If anyone has a link to that info that's hotlinked, please let me know).  For people with destroyed homes, see https://espl.com.ua.  Advice for travelers (in Ukrainian) to avoid sex traffickers: https://www.helpforukrainians.info/ukrainian/ .  To report unexplored ordinance, send quantity, condition, location, etc, with a photo to https://t.me/evorog_bot .  Female warriors needing uniforms (including maternity uniforms): https://stavnitser.com .  Medical doctors (free medical manuals in Ukrainian): https://www.msdmanuals.com/uk/professional/resourcespages/medical-content-in-ukrainian ; free Norwegian army cold weather ops manuals (in English): https://www.forsvaret.no/en/organisation/centre-of-excellence-cold-weather-operations/handbook-and-lectures

You should check to see if your employer has a donation matching program.  Some may be listed at https://doublethedonation.com/

Some donations may be eligible to get you nudie pics:  https://teronlyfans.com/english/

If you want to fund reporting of the war:  https://www.gofundme.com/f/kyivindependent-launch;  https://www.patreon.com/kyivindependenthttps://dattalion.com/donate-to-dattalion/

If you can't donate money, but have free time and the health to do it, consider volunteering your time to groups to help them free up money to spend in Ukraine.

You can search Charity Navigator ( https://www.charitynavigator.org ) or GuideStar (https://www.guidestar.org/NonprofitDirectory.aspx) for terms like Ukraine, and look find a group near you that needs extra hands.  If you can't find a Ukraine specific one, pick another one with a mission that you support.

If you want to donate drones, medical supplies and such:  https://www.mriyaaid.org/aid

If you want to have a supper club or bake sale fundraiser and would like recipes:  https://www.cookforukraine.orghttps://klopotenko.com/en

There are even ways to contribute online, for the home bound people:

Help Ukrainians practice conversational English:  https://mobile.twitter.com/OlenaChek/status/1544689140725325825. (And if you want to learn Ukrainian, sign up with Pimsleur before the end of the year: https://www.pimsleur.com/c/free-ukrainian )

If you're a US citizen, call your congress critters and let them know how you feel:  (202) 224-3121.  Or if you want to sponsor refugees:  https://ukraine.welcome.us.  But you may want to try to find an NGO, as if you directly sponsor them you're financially responsible for two years.  (https://www.uscis.gov/ukraine ; So tell your representatives to give them refugee status).

If you would like to avoid doing business with companies still operating in russia, see https://www.dontfundwar.com

If you use streaming music services, search for Ukrainian artist playlists, so you'll give them a fraction of a penny and maybe find some new artists to support more directly.  See https://linkpeak.io/l/defendukraine

If you watch cam sites, consider supporting Ukrainians (although some may currently be displaced, others may tag Ukraine to show support because they're from neighboring countries, and some of the most in need of support may not currently have internet access; I don't have any sort of definitive list)

There are also efforts to DDoS Russian websites such as the "Ukraine IT Army", but I'm not linking to them to avoid risking the mods removing this whole list.

Also see the official Ukrainian website on ways to support their effort:  https://war.ukraine.ua/support-ukraine/


Buying stuff made in Ukraine or as fundraisers (consider shipping time/delays for Christmas presents, so order early):

Shirts, stickers and flags (Canada/US):  https://www.saintjavelin.com/
Shirts, socks, hoodies, jackets, etc. (Ukranian):  https://www.aviatsiyahalychyny.com/en/
Clothing (Texas imports from Ukraine):  https://www.ukiestyle.com
Video games (Ukrainian fArmy):  https://ukrainian.itch.io/ukrainian-farmy
Beer:  https://drinkersforukraine.com
Games studios in Ukraine: SarniGames ; nightcatstudios ; Best Way ; N-Game Studios
T-shirts and art (Ukraine):  https://artforukraine.world/catalogue/
T-shirts and other stuff (Estonia? Using Printify): https://supportukraine.art
Posters (Europe?): https://againstwar.gallery
Metal signs:  https://displate.com/stand-with-ukraine/make-art-not-war
Wooden toys & models (Ukraine): https://ugearsmodels.com
Lego figures and sets: https://www.brickmania.com/donations/
Messages on Ukrainian ordinance: https://signmyrocket.com
T-shirts and hoodies (Ukraine): https://visitukraine.shop/collections
Candles: https://doorcountycandle.com/product/ukraine-candle/
Pinhole cameras: https://jollylook.com
Postage stamps: https://postcardsua.com/collections/stampshttps://volstamp.in.ua/en/catalog/marki_ukraini_2022-id391https://postmark.ukrposhta.ua (set language in menu)
Fetishwear: https://www.brightandshinystore.com
Misc: https://store.greatergood.com/search?q=Ukraine
Symbolic tickets to liberated cities: https://concert.ua/en/events/kvitki-do-peremogi
Patches (made by TelemonianAjax):  https://www.etsy.com/listing/1182030528/iron-on-patch-set-of-8-ukraine-childrens

If you buy stuff on Amazon, go to https://smile.amazon.com/ and in settings, go to 'Your AmazonSmile' and designate a charity to receive a fraction of your purchases whenever you use the 'smile' website to buy stuff.

If you're still feeling anxious or depressed about this whole thing, consider professional help, but I also found the book 'Lost Connections' helped me years ago:  https://fourminutebooks.com/lost-connections-summary/


PS.  You don't need to tell us what you do (but you can if you think it would help keep your sanity)
PPS.  If you reply to stuff in this thread, please trim down your reply
PPPS. If you want me to add something, reply (trimmed down!) with an English language link
PPPPS. Some of the new faces are people trying to understand what's going on.  Not everyone asking questions is a shill, even when they say 'the Ukraine'
Px5S. Some newcomers have been flagging posts as off topic; this is in part a therapy thread, with thread jacks & callbacks to past threads to add levity and balance out the atrocities
 
6 days ago  
Air adjusters of the state border service destroy the occupiers' equipment both independently and together with artillerymen of the Defense Forces pic.twitter.com/GSODjmvcDm
- ТРУХА⚡English (@TpyxaNews) November 24, 2022

booms
 
6 days ago  

DrEMHmrk2: Time to start cooking those mashed potatoes i told you all about!

I'm thankful for all you freaking weirdos.



Don't forget the raisins!


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6 days ago  
Ukraine needs to start taking out infrastructure in Russia.  This is bullshiat.
 
6 days ago  

Tracianne: Tr0mBoNe: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1595720663427334144?t=0zsgyg5d83_ts8dmoHkcrA&s=19

Nikol Pashinyan refused to sign a declaration following the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) summit.
In fact, it means that the CSTO has collapsed completely.
Putin dropped his pen, Lukashenko is shocked.

Ed: lol lmao

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What's the significance of the circled part? I guess I need to read the twatter thread
 
6 days ago  
Day 274 Report: Missile Strike Aftermath + Some Personal Updates
Youtube pKUKT6ZIg_w
 
6 days ago  

Zeroth Law: Tracianne: Tr0mBoNe: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1595720663427334144?t=0zsgyg5d83_ts8dmoHkcrA&s=19

Nikol Pashinyan refused to sign a declaration following the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) summit.
In fact, it means that the CSTO has collapsed completely.
Putin dropped his pen, Lukashenko is shocked.

Ed: lol lmao

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From that thread

What's the significance of the circled part? I guess I need to read the twatter thread


Blue and yellow. Like the Ukraine flag. I guess the implication is that someone was subtly trolling Putin with their choice of folder colors?
 
6 days ago  

Medic Zero: DrEMHmrk2: Time to start cooking those mashed potatoes i told you all about!

I'm thankful for all you freaking weirdos.

Don't forget the raisins!


C'mon it's thanksgiving.

Dried cranberries would be more appropriate
 
6 days ago  
#Ukraine: A direct hit on a Russian T-80BV by the Ukrainian 4th Tank Brigade in the East.

The tank received serious damage and was taken out of action. pic.twitter.com/88uDa8gQVa
- 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) November 23, 2022

boom
 
6 days ago  

bertor_vidas: Zeroth Law: Tracianne: Tr0mBoNe: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1595720663427334144?t=0zsgyg5d83_ts8dmoHkcrA&s=19

Nikol Pashinyan refused to sign a declaration following the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) summit.
In fact, it means that the CSTO has collapsed completely.
Putin dropped his pen, Lukashenko is shocked.

Ed: lol lmao

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From that thread

What's the significance of the circled part? I guess I need to read the twatter thread

Blue and yellow. Like the Ukraine flag. I guess the implication is that someone was subtly trolling Putin with their choice of folder colors?


Oh I couldn't see the forest for the trees. Was thinking something more in-depth like secrets, the aforementioned pen, etc
 
6 days ago  
The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
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5m
⚡ Mayor: Water supply restored everywhere in Kyiv.
Some consumers are experiencing low water pressure as it will take some time for the system to reach full capacity, said Mayor Vitali Klitschko.
Kyiv lost power and water supply after Russia's missile attack on Nov. 23.
 
6 days ago  
ТРУХА⚡English
@TpyxaNews
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13m
The Kyiv City Council approved the decision to award Boris Johnson the title of Honorary Citizen of Kyiv - Klitschko
 
6 days ago  
Hey folks, hope everyone's well

here's a dreamt-up system of defence for the doodlers

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6 days ago  

Halfabee64: Ukraine needs to start taking out infrastructure in Russia.  This is bullshiat.


Yeah that's the gut reaction, but the head says they need to stay on the ropes and take the punches a little bit longer.

Once the bell goes and the invaders go to their corner, they may be close to not being able to get on their feet for the next round.

Hitting their turf would only re direct the anger there. Now the anger is returning body bags.
 
6 days ago  
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In further corrections to official Russian government statements:

*Any rumors that the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) is collapsing are absolutely without merit. The CTSO is of course a defensive organization created after the fall of the USSR, and were it not for this, the former Soviet Republics would have absolutely no protection from Russia. *Squints at paper* I'm pretty sure that's supposed to "NATO."

* Today, the 24th of November is of course Genghis Khan Day, a celebration of life and peace that has been cruelly co-opted by the Americans with their barbaric 'Thanksgiving' celebration, in which peaceful turkeys are brutally beheaded with an axe and then devoured, while feral American children play 'make a wish' while breaking the bones of the deceased. This is of course only one of their depraved stolen celebrations: Halloween, which in the civilized world is All Saints Day, is a night of terror where small children threaten adults if not given candy, and Festivus, which replaces the birth of the baby Jesus with a metal pole and furious recriminations of party goers. It is of no surprise that such a people would try to limit glorious Russian culture. *beat* In other news, Blyaat the Caat has once again been rejected by western television networks, who call the heartwarming children's show 'depraved and horrific.'

* While some western governments may promote failed theories that Russia is a state sponsor of terrorism, we wish to remind everyone that Russia is not responsible for Nickelback. Seriously, you should look in your own back yards sometime, guys.

* In other news, the Ministry of Defense has uncovered ancient scrolls which contain the formula for the long-lost creation of Gauntlets of Ogre Strength, and are planning a production run along with small 5 by 9 index cards containing instructions on how to attune this magical item to a character, which honestly were not required until the release of this new 5th edition of Dungeons and Dragons. *Extemporizing* You know, back in my day? We were lucky to find a potion of Cure Light Wounds when we raided a goblin hole, and kids these days with their +5 Geatswords of Goblin Slaying are missing the soul of the game. They're never gonna know how heroic we were, slaying monsters left and right with nothing but rusty swords and a GM in our pocket. Damn kids!
 
6 days ago  
What is the best way to thaw a frozen turkey fast? Need to know soonish
 
6 days ago  

Zeroth Law: Tracianne: Tr0mBoNe: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1595720663427334144?t=0zsgyg5d83_ts8dmoHkcrA&s=19

Nikol Pashinyan refused to sign a declaration following the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) summit.
In fact, it means that the CSTO has collapsed completely.
Putin dropped his pen, Lukashenko is shocked.

Ed: lol lmao

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From that thread

What's the significance of the circled part? I guess I need to read the twatter thread


Blue and yellow from Ukrainian flag
 
6 days ago  

Halfabee64: Ukraine needs to start taking out infrastructure in Russia.  This is bullshiat.


As a follow up:

The invaders must be close to folding.

This is the Orc Hail Mary Pass.
 
6 days ago  
Happy Turkey day all. I don't know how Quora started ending up in my mail.  It's kind of like Yahoo answers so, you know. But I found this piece interesting, and hey, Turkey Day:


R. W. Carmichael· Former Intelligence Analyst at U.S. Air Force (1962-1970)Updated Nov 3Why did Turkey buy Russian S-400 instead of US Patriot or NATO's SAMP/T?There is one universal answer that also fits Turkey.
ALL the countries that buy Russian military goods are essentially bankrupt. They buy from Russia for one simple reason: Russia will sell them military equipment, training, support, etc on a time payment plan - military industrial hire purchase, if you will. This compares to western military equipment manufacturers who want cash on order and the remainder on delivery.
The reasoning by western manufacturers is that if they sell goods to poor countries on some sort of financing, those countries are likely to use them to go to war and end up not paying for them because they lost the war or lost so many resources that it cannot pay.
Turkey is essentially broke. Inflation is incredibly high at about 88% annual rate currently. Turkey simply could not afford Patriots or other western air defense systems.
NOTE: I have disabled comments because Turkish trolls are all over the post. The fact remains that NATO supplied with Patriots under NATO control. There was never an issue about that. But Turkey wanted 1) exclusive control of the Patriots, 2) a license to manufacture major components of the Patriot in Turkey, 3) a license to share NATO SAM technology with non-NATO countries (aka Russia),
 
6 days ago  

mikaloyd: What is the best way to thaw a frozen turkey fast? Need to know soonish


Put it in a roasting pan in the sink and run cold water over it.
 
6 days ago  

bertor_vidas: Father_Jack: <approaches podium, puts on reading glasses>

Good morning everyone. Happy Thanksgiving to the 'mEricans in thread. its thanksgiving there right?

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My contributions to the Thanksgiving feast are spicy refrigerator pickles and, in honor of FJ's *ahem* predilections, some chocolate chip cookies that could be described as goth Latinas. Dark chocolate chips (goth) with cinnamon and whatever spice was left on my hands after slicing up the jalapeños (so mole-adjacent and therefore Latina). I would have made full-blown mole style, but my friend's mother-in-law would riot if "Cookie Guy" showed up with anything other than his normal recipe.

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I was just telling my wife tuesday that one of the things i miss about college and young adult years were going to different thanksgiving celebrations with different families. Such as different girlfriends, friends, coworkers, etc... What I missed was all the different foods and the various traditions of each group. Some of the wildest, and, tastiest moments of my culinary life. Also some absolute busts that I still laugh about today.

One time, my roomate in college would not stop talking about his families mac and cheese. Mom makes three trays of it man, and there are never leftovers. You gotta come, so I did. Worst mac and cheese ever. Tasted like that government cheese from the 80s my mom would get for free from city hall and was just drowning in the cheese, very little mac. I had taken a generous, but reasonable portion and i had to choke that shiat all down, while raving about it. Everyone else seemed absolutely sincere in their love of this dish. As I got near the end, my roommates cousin came up and said, "yo dude, you gotta try it with hot sauce", and was so kind he went and got me a bowl of it and poured some hot sauce all over it. I thought i was gonna die. Ate every bite, never said shiat.
 
6 days ago  
Maybe they should start holding Russian POW's in key infrastructure areas. And if Ukrainians go without heat or water, well, I guess the POW's will just be getting the same treatment as the locals.
 
6 days ago  
In lieu of Thanksgiving food pics, i present thanksgiving beers. 
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6 days ago  
Russians are not responsible for Nickelback?!

Next you're going to tell me they didn't launch this war, Either:

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6 days ago  

mikaloyd: What is the best way to thaw a frozen turkey fast? Need to know soonish


Water bath
 
6 days ago  

mikaloyd: What is the best way to thaw a frozen turkey fast? Need to know soonish


Deep fry it.

The grease fire makes everything more exciting.
 
6 days ago  

dsmith42: mikaloyd: What is the best way to thaw a frozen turkey fast? Need to know soonish

Deep fry it.

The grease fire makes everything more exciting.


Indoors, of course
 
6 days ago  

bertor_vidas: Father_Jack: <approaches podium, puts on reading glasses>

Good morning everyone. Happy Thanksgiving to the 'mEricans in thread. its thanksgiving there right?

...

My contributions to the Thanksgiving feast are spicy refrigerator pickles and, in honor of FJ's *ahem* predilections, some chocolate chip cookies that could be described as goth Latinas. Dark chocolate chips (goth) with cinnamon and whatever spice was left on my hands after slicing up the jalapeños (so mole-adjacent and therefore Latina). I would have made full-blown mole style, but my friend's mother-in-law would riot if "Cookie Guy" showed up with anything other than his normal recipe.

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Those pickles look tasty af
 
6 days ago  
How to Thaw a Turkey in a Few Hours: Use the Cold-Water Method
Let's say you woke up at 7 a.m. and realized that you forgot to transfer the bird from the freezer to the fridge last night. Fortunately, your guests aren't coming over until later this afternoon.
Here's the plan:
Submerge your bird breast side down in cold water. A large pot or the sink should do the trick. Make sure the turkey is totally submerged (use a baking dish to weigh it down if you have to).
Change the water every 30 minutes. This is key for food safety, so be sure to set an alarm for yourself so you don't forget.
Note: It should take approximately 30 minutes per pound to completely thaw. So, for a ten-pound turkey, you're looking at about 5 hours of thawing time.

How to Thaw a Turkey When Your Guests Have Already Arrived: Cook It Frozen
Yup, you actually can safely cook a fully frozen turkey, says the USDA. But there's a catch: Cooking time will take at least 50 percent longer. So, while a 12-pound, fully thawed turkey would normally take about 3 hours to cook in a 325°F oven, it will take 4½ hours or more to cook if it's frozen.

Out of Time? (Fark method)
Ply your guests with drinks and appetizers while you give this recipe for maple roasted turkey legs a go. And if that doesn't work, team your delicious sides with a pizza delivery (because pepperoni fixes everything).
 
6 days ago  

mikaloyd: What is the best way to thaw a frozen turkey fast? Need to know soonish


Place it in a big pot of room temperature water.
 
6 days ago  

aungen: Russians are not responsible for Nickelback?!

Next you're going to tell me they didn't launch this war, Either:

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Put that sh*t in the back aisle, next to the other abominations.
 
6 days ago  

MarciusDecimus: mac and cheese


God, now I'm going to have to make my Mom's recipe. Not that it's anything special or particularly good, but there's that nostalgia factor you know? Butter and milk and flour roux, add in a block or two of store-brand cheddar you grated by hand, salt and pepper to taste. Dump in freshly cooked elbow macaroni. The real controversial parts were the mix-ins. She always put ham and peas into it. Mix it all up, bake it in the oven, finish iat off with a good blast under the broiler for a nicely browned top. All of this in the old school Corningware pots with the blue flowers on the side.

You knew my Dad had a race the next day because we would always have a heavy carb-loading meal the night before.
 
6 days ago  

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I have thanksgiving bears. On Hard Cider
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Also, to all the genuinely helpful people giving tips onjhow to quickly thaw turkeys. Im sorry. It was just a joke. I dont have a real Thanksgiviong cooking disaster
 
6 days ago  
graphic warning - no blood or gore but 5 russians in a circle when the drone goes bowling for orcs



Ukrainian drone drops VOGs on a group of Russian military pic.twitter.com/7ks5YHRCFj
- ТРУХА⚡English (@TpyxaNews) November 24, 2022
 
6 days ago  

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Let us all give thanks for what subby will receive.
 
6 days ago  

bertor_vidas: Father_Jack: <approaches podium, puts on reading glasses>

Good morning everyone. Happy Thanksgiving to the 'mEricans in thread. its thanksgiving there right?

...

My contributions to the Thanksgiving feast are spicy refrigerator pickles and, in honor of FJ's *ahem* predilections, some chocolate chip cookies that could be described as goth Latinas. Dark chocolate chips (goth) with cinnamon and whatever spice was left on my hands after slicing up the jalapeños (so mole-adjacent and therefore Latina). I would have made full-blown mole style, but my friend's mother-in-law would riot if "Cookie Guy" showed up with anything other than his normal recipe.

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.... Tell me more about these spicy refrigerator pickles, please.

/Relevant to my interests
 
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