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(CBC)   And he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for that meddling pension plan administrator   (cbc.ca) divider line
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3432 clicks; posted to Main » on 23 Nov 2022 at 7:55 PM (10 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-11-23 8:34:16 PM  
14 votes:

mrmopar5287: "I am unable to determine, on the basis of the evidence before me, who actually appeared at the [annulment] application representing herself as Gina Elizabeth Zant. However, I am satisfied that whoever attended by telephone on that date was an imposter," Hori wrote.

OK, those two things don't go together in the same sentence. The judge can't say he is "unable to determine...who appeared" before him and then say he is satisfied it was an imposter.

if he doesn't know, he admits it could be the real person.


The one person he knows it wasn't is Gina Zant. The identity of the imposter is unknown though.
 
2022-11-23 7:59:38 PM  
10 votes:
How did he think this was not going to eventually be discovered and end the way he didn't want it to end?
 
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2022-11-23 8:26:36 PM  
6 votes:

SBinRR: How did he think this was not going to eventually be discovered and end the way he didn't want it to end?


Well, it sounds like the pension plan official's diligence in confirming with the real beneficiary is basically the only reason that the ruling was quickly reversed.

If enough time had passed between the ruling and the ex-wife coming to learn that she was no longer listed as a pension beneficiary, it might have been much harder to get the ruling corrected.  Without the matter fresh on the mind of the judge, she might have had a much harder time proving that it really wan't her that appeared before the court, that it really was an impostor that had posed as her.  The burden of proof would have been on her.
 
2022-11-23 9:07:01 PM  
4 votes:
Now go after all those involved on the husband's side for fraud.
 
2022-11-24 11:39:20 AM  
3 votes:

mrmopar5287: OK, those two things don't go together in the same sentence. The judge can't say he is "unable to determine...who appeared" before him and then say he is satisfied it was an imposter.

if he doesn't know, he admits it could be the real person.


No, that doesn't logically follow.  A scammer could call me saying they're my mom and asking me to send money.  I wouldn't know who the caller was, but I'd know for sure it wasn't my mom.  Despite the popular wisdom that says "you can't prove a negative", contradictory evidence can in fact do so.
 
2022-11-23 8:38:57 PM  
1 vote:
Why should he owe his ex any money? Quite the racket, marriage.
 
2022-11-23 9:02:54 PM  
1 vote:
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2022-11-24 12:02:29 AM  
1 vote:
Even if the marriage wasn't legal by Cook Islands law, seems to me that they established a common law marriage during the 20 years they were together.

IANAL, so that might be wrong, but it seems reasonable to me.

As for the husband committing fraud on the court? Award the entire pension to the wife. Fark him and his schemes.
 
2022-11-24 12:06:45 AM  
1 vote:

indy_kid: Even if the marriage wasn't legal by Cook Islands law, seems to me that they established a common law marriage during the 20 years they were together.

IANAL, so that might be wrong, but it seems reasonable to me.

As for the husband committing fraud on the court? Award the entire pension to the wife. Fark him and his schemes.


Canada does have common law marriage, it's certainly possible.
 
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