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(Some Guy)   In a move that nearly every police department will follow if tolerated, San Francisco police is trying to authorize robots to use deadly force   (missionlocal.org) divider line
    More: Scary, Police, Constable, San Francisco police, robot force, policy proposal heading, Robot use-of-force, police department, Deadly force  
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2471 clicks; posted to Main » and STEM » on 23 Nov 2022 at 2:35 PM (2 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-11-23 1:08:32 PM  
Wait, SF cops are already robots.

Though not nearly as bad, broken, violent ones as San Jose's.
 
2022-11-23 1:10:53 PM  
It's probably fine as long as the robot is not programmed to be a racist f#ck like all the other cops.
 
2022-11-23 1:11:37 PM  

Lambskincoat: It's probably fine as long as the robot is not programmed to be a racist f#ck like all the other cops.


I've got bad news.
 
2022-11-23 1:16:39 PM  

Lambskincoat: It's probably fine as long as the robot is not programmed to be a racist f#ck like all the other cops.


OOB programming:

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2022-11-23 1:38:15 PM  
Let's check out the first day of this in action, where it patrols a school yard...

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2022-11-23 2:02:41 PM  
 
2022-11-23 2:33:31 PM  
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2022-11-23 2:36:54 PM  

ThomasPaineTrain: Texas did it.


Yeah was going to mention that that's already been a thing.
 
2022-11-23 2:38:02 PM  
Cowards gonna cower.
 
2022-11-23 2:39:52 PM  
Literally dystopian movie/comic book territory there. It could be perfect but it would still be a terrible idea.
 
2022-11-23 2:42:35 PM  

ThomasPaineTrain: Texas did it.


Mentioned in the farking article.

/of course, who reads the farking article
 
2022-11-23 2:42:49 PM  
Where's the fun in that?
 
2022-11-23 2:43:17 PM  

ThomasPaineTrain: Texas did it.


After sniper fire struck 12 police officers at a rally in downtown Dallas, killing five, police cornered a single suspect in a parking garage. After a prolonged exchange of gunfire and a five-hour-long standoff, police made what experts say was an unprecedented decision: to send in a police robot, jury-rigged with a bomb.


"This was a man that we gave plenty of options to to give himself up peacefully and we spent a lot of time talking. He had a choice to come out and we would not harm, or stay in and we would. He picked the latter."

Sounds like he choose poorly
 
2022-11-23 2:43:21 PM  
Peter Weller sat next to me in one class in high school, so I don't get the reference at all.
 
2022-11-23 2:43:33 PM  
Yeah, but it's happening in a left-leaning state so presumably this RoboCop will only murder the right sort of people using sunshine, puppy dogs, and good vibes . . .
 
2022-11-23 2:43:56 PM  
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2022-11-23 2:44:22 PM  
First Law, A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

First Law corollary, those people aren't human
 
2022-11-23 2:45:04 PM  
"wE nEeD tHe SeCoNd AmEnDmEnT tO fIgHt TyRaNy!"

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/not tyranny if you get killed by robots for not complying fast enough
//obvi
 
2022-11-23 2:45:26 PM  
It should depend on the situation.

Scenario 1: Criminal is alone but is shooting at everyone. Robot goes in and blasts criminal to oblivion.

Scenario 2: Criminal has hostages. Robot is not deployed due to risk of accidentally killing the hostages.

Anyway I'm already imagining a future situation where a robot is used to try and save school children from another mass shooter, but the robot thinks EVERYONE is armed and dangerous! BLAM BLAM BLAM! Make my day!
 
2022-11-23 2:45:28 PM  
The Ukrainians have figured out that $99 drone + $25 grenade = dead Russians.

Of course, that's in an actual warzone.

/that's got to be the scariest thing-you are a Russian conscript, chilling in your trench, when, from above, suddenly grenade
 
2022-11-23 2:46:05 PM  
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2022-11-23 2:46:30 PM  

Geotpf: ThomasPaineTrain: Texas did it.

Mentioned in the farking article.

/of course, who reads the farking article


Who can?
 
2022-11-23 2:47:45 PM  
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2022-11-23 2:47:55 PM  
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2022-11-23 2:48:50 PM  
Can a robot "fear for its safety"?

I'm actually in favor of the exact opposite of this.  We should definitely replace cops with robots.

Sure, the programming will be as correct as a self-crashing Tesla, but it takes effort to make a bigoted robot and there's no need for a robot to defend itself with deadly force.
 
2022-11-23 2:49:42 PM  
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2022-11-23 2:49:45 PM  
Did anything come of the guy in Texas getting blowed up by a police bot?

Other then giving the cops that did it awards I mean.
 
2022-11-23 2:49:46 PM  
FTFA: "The SFPD has 17 robots in its arsenal, 12 of which are fully functional."

Giggity!
 
2022-11-23 2:49:51 PM  

steklo: [Fark user image image 640x360]


Counterpoint:

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2022-11-23 2:49:54 PM  
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2022-11-23 2:52:39 PM  
Portrayed by Estelle Getty in the movie version, "Stop, Or My Bot Will Shoot!"

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2022-11-23 2:53:41 PM  

Toxophil: Cowards gonna cower.


The big mention in the article is the use of the robot during the 2016 murders committed by a BLM Supporter in Dallas during a Support march , where 5 police officers were assassinated.  So yeah; your coward call out is pretty piss poor history revisionism!

These robot machines are used for many purposes; and the final one on the ladder is as a fatal/ lethal attack device.  And even more important; they are going before the Civilian authority/ panel first to get general approval/ authorization.  So basically; using the steps that the public wants them to use.

PS:  please state your opinion on whether or not a police officer should be killed/ murdered/ assassinated for the record on Fark.
 
2022-11-23 2:53:46 PM  

ThomasPaineTrain: Texas did it.


Still no Texas tag tho
 
2022-11-23 2:56:26 PM  
The SFPD has 17 robots in its arsenal, 12 of which are fully functional


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2022-11-23 2:56:50 PM  
Will not being in any danger make the police operating the robots less likely to kill or more likely to kill?  That is the real question
 
2022-11-23 2:57:11 PM  
Depends.  A police robot shouldn't be allowed to use lethal force to protect itself, but let's say that a gunman is holding hostages and a drone with a gun has a shot to take him out.  Or you send a flock of armed drones into a school that is having an active shooting, and take out the shooter.  If the drones can get to the shooter faster than humans I don't have a problem with it.

Again though, if a drone is simply shooting at someone because they are shooting at the drone, no that is a problem.
 
2022-11-23 2:57:26 PM  
Next after this comes Texas ranchers installing automated turrets along their fence lines.
 
2022-11-23 2:57:31 PM  

GreenSun: It should depend on the situation.

Scenario 1: Criminal is alone but is shooting at everyone. Robot goes in and blasts criminal to oblivion.

Scenario 2: Criminal has hostages. Robot is not deployed due to risk of accidentally killing the hostages.


Scenario three:  Humanoid robots are sent in.  Criminal takes them hostage.
 
2022-11-23 2:57:34 PM  
Robots can't decide when deadly force is proper and necessary - that decision rests with the operator of the robot. So what they're really deciding is if the police can use a robot as a weapon, no different from a firearm except that it's operated remotely. If a police robot kills someone, the operator of said robot should be subject to the same scrutiny as any other cop using deadly force.
 
2022-11-23 2:57:49 PM  

educated: Lambskincoat: It's probably fine as long as the robot is not programmed to be a racist f#ck like all the other cops.

I've got bad news.


They'll train it on the new and improved Twitter. 2.0

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2022-11-23 2:59:17 PM  

Swampmaster: Toxophil: Cowards gonna cower.

The big mention in the article is the use of the robot during the 2016 murders committed by a BLM Supporter in Dallas during a Support march , where 5 police officers were assassinated.  So yeah; your coward call out is pretty piss poor history revisionism!

These robot machines are used for many purposes; and the final one on the ladder is as a fatal/ lethal attack device.  And even more important; they are going before the Civilian authority/ panel first to get general approval/ authorization.  So basically; using the steps that the public wants them to use.

PS:  please state your opinion on whether or not a police officer should be killed/ murdered/ assassinated for the record on Fark.


BLM in 2016? Are you sure about that? LMFAO....hack
 
2022-11-23 2:59:24 PM  
The SFPD has 17 robots in its arsenal, 12 of which are fully functional.
 
2022-11-23 3:03:15 PM  

Claude Ballse: Counterpoint:


I don't get it. What does buying Robot Insurance have to do with qualified immunity?
 
2022-11-23 3:06:35 PM  

Dr. Bison: The SFPD has 17 robots in its arsenal, 12 of which are fully functional


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I was thinking more . . .

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2022-11-23 3:07:11 PM  

Swampmaster: Toxophil: Cowards gonna cower.

The big mention in the article is the use of the robot during the 2016 murders committed by a BLM Supporter in Dallas during a Support march , where 5 police officers were assassinated.  So yeah; your coward call out is pretty piss poor history revisionism!

These robot machines are used for many purposes; and the final one on the ladder is as a fatal/ lethal attack device.  And even more important; they are going before the Civilian authority/ panel first to get general approval/ authorization.  So basically; using the steps that the public wants them to use.

PS:  please state your opinion on whether or not a police officer should be killed/ murdered/ assassinated for the record on Fark.


how could you possibly extrapolate that much from three words?
 
2022-11-23 3:07:47 PM  

slobberbone: Wait, SF cops are already robots.
Though not nearly as bad, broken, violent ones as San Jose's.


Yeah, you're 50 Years Late on that...
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Then there's Harlan Ellisons lawsuit against ABC over their illicit "Brillo" adaptation

https://youtu.be/FQDzSNGAJRc
 
2022-11-23 3:09:05 PM  

FlippityFlap: Swampmaster: Toxophil: Cowards gonna cower.

The big mention in the article is the use of the robot during the 2016 murders committed by a BLM Supporter in Dallas during a Support march , where 5 police officers were assassinated.  So yeah; your coward call out is pretty piss poor history revisionism!

These robot machines are used for many purposes; and the final one on the ladder is as a fatal/ lethal attack device.  And even more important; they are going before the Civilian authority/ panel first to get general approval/ authorization.  So basically; using the steps that the public wants them to use.

PS:  please state your opinion on whether or not a police officer should be killed/ murdered/ assassinated for the record on Fark.

BLM in 2016? Are you sure about that? LMFAO....hack


Yes.  https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/07/08/us/philando-castile-alton-sterling-protests/index.html

And  https://www.keranews.org/2021-07-06/5-years-later-trauma-from-deadly-2016-dallas-police-shooting-still-remains?_amp=true
 
2022-11-23 3:12:09 PM  

ThomasPaineTrain: Texas did it.


And nothing of value was lost, except the robot.
 
2022-11-23 3:14:05 PM  
meh.   Wait until federal drones patrol the streets.
 
2022-11-23 3:14:33 PM  

Geotpf: The Ukrainians have figured out that $99 drone + $25 grenade = dead Russians.

Of course, that's in an actual warzone.

/that's got to be the scariest thing-you are a Russian conscript, chilling in your trench, when, from above, suddenly grenade


there's that video of the russian throwing the grenade(s) away.  Solution: gobs of sticky glue. Try to throw THAT, orc.
 
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