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2022-11-23 12:25:36 PM  
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2022-11-23 1:09:36 PM  
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2022-11-23 1:11:43 PM  
Time traveling Vikings are strangely popular

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2022-11-23 1:11:49 PM  
The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?
 
2022-11-23 1:13:58 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Time traveling Vikings are strangely popular

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2022-11-23 1:14:52 PM  
You can usually find Vikings exiting the first-round.
 
2022-11-23 1:15:58 PM  
 
2022-11-23 1:18:08 PM  
If you have a large hoard of gold coins. Maybe hire some Vikings to guard them.
 
2022-11-23 1:18:34 PM  

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Have you celt it yet?

/s
 
2022-11-23 1:20:17 PM  
*horde

/pet peave.
 
2022-11-23 1:20:24 PM  
Now that gold prices have dropped from their highs, they steal gold.

Just wait until Bitcoin really goes South.
 
2022-11-23 1:24:07 PM  
well...bye

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2022-11-23 1:24:48 PM  
Have you lot not SEEN the leprechaun movies?  of all the places to steal gold coins from, maybe consider not pissing off that angry bugger
 
2022-11-23 1:27:54 PM  
Hoard ffs!
 
2022-11-23 1:33:15 PM  

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my work here is done.
 
2022-11-23 1:34:19 PM  
*whored
 
2022-11-23 1:35:10 PM  

iheartscotch: The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?


Meh, go ahead and ride your high-horse down that "all property is theft" rabbit hole.
The coins were being preserved and on display to the public.... now they'll be melted down and lost to history forever.
 
2022-11-23 1:35:16 PM  
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2022-11-23 1:37:25 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Time traveling Vikings are strangely popular

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2022-11-23 1:37:30 PM  
We would have also accepted time-travelling 76ers.
 
2022-11-23 1:39:10 PM  

chewd: iheartscotch: The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?

Meh, go ahead and ride your high-horse down that "all property is theft" rabbit hole.
The coins were being preserved and on display to the public.... now they'll be melted down and lost to history forever.


Why would they be melted down?

Worth far more to a collector as they are... sheesh.
 
2022-11-23 1:47:21 PM  

makerofbadjokes: chewd: iheartscotch: The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?

Meh, go ahead and ride your high-horse down that "all property is theft" rabbit hole.
The coins were being preserved and on display to the public.... now they'll be melted down and lost to history forever.

Why would they be melted down?

Worth far more to a collector as they are... sheesh.


Because they want money and not jail time?
"Hot coins that everybody in the antiquities world knows are stolen & will get you mega jail time" vs "a couple bars of anonymous gold."

I can tell you which one i'd rather have.... and it just takes a lil propane to convert them.
 
2022-11-23 1:50:41 PM  

makerofbadjokes: chewd: iheartscotch: The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?

Meh, go ahead and ride your high-horse down that "all property is theft" rabbit hole.
The coins were being preserved and on display to the public.... now they'll be melted down and lost to history forever.

Why would they be melted down?

Worth far more to a collector as they are... sheesh.



Because gold, once melted down and re-formed, is essentially untraceable?

A pile of Viking coins will be much more traceable.

Whoever stole the coins started with zero gold; will that person want to take the very risky approach of selling the coins as they are to maximize the return, or will he just stay with whatever $$$ can be had from X ounces of gold in a random shape with a near-zero chance of getting busted for theft?
 
2022-11-23 1:56:23 PM  

iheartscotch: The Irresponsible Captain: Time traveling Vikings are strangely popular

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Is there a subject, now matter how perceivably far-fetched as it may be, that Chuck Tingle hasn'twritten about?
 
2022-11-23 1:58:04 PM  
Found em:
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Now if only they'd green light season 3 of Beforeigners...
 
2022-11-23 2:03:36 PM  
I thought he just went back for the Reality Stone.
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2022-11-23 2:04:43 PM  
Stolen?

I regret nothing.
 
2022-11-23 2:05:09 PM  

makerofbadjokes: chewd: iheartscotch: The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?

Meh, go ahead and ride your high-horse down that "all property is theft" rabbit hole.
The coins were being preserved and on display to the public.... now they'll be melted down and lost to history forever.

Why would they be melted down?

Worth far more to a collector as they are... sheesh.


And that's why you'll get caught with stolen gold coins.

Me, I'd rather bury them and draw up a map with a gigantic X marking the spot and put it along with a single coin with my will* in a safe, with plans to live long with my secret. I wouldn't tell a soul about my buried treasure.

I'd laugh heartily randomly as I think about my ill gained plunder. No prison could contain my joy. I'd HAR har har har and no one would know why I was so happy.

/My will, a bottle of booze, a joint, and a map
//Smoke up, drink up, read it and weep, mateys, I'm about to blow your mind
 
2022-11-23 2:05:30 PM  
Well...fark.   Now I want to see a Facilities Report from that museum because I can guarantee you, no museum will lend to this place now.
 
2022-11-23 2:09:12 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: We would have also accepted time-travelling 76ers.


Can't be, they had a game that night. Although Joel Embiid didn't play... hmmmm...
 
2022-11-23 2:13:27 PM  

deadsanta: Found em:
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Now if only they'd green light season 3 of Beforeigners...


Please, for the love of god, where's season 3?

Also, stealing ancient gold coins is how you catch a curse. You want to catch a curse?
 
2022-11-23 2:17:55 PM  
Look, i know you guys recently watched that John Oliver bit about all the antiquities and cultural icons the west stole from Africa 100 years ago and wont return.
Yeah, that is very much a bad thing. The British Museum absolutely should return the Benin bronzes to Nigera. I totally 100% agree to that. Egyptian sculptures stolen by 1800s colonials should be returned to Egypt. No doubt about it.

These coins however, resided in a German museum after being found in a German archeological dig. They were found near Manching and were being kept in a museum in Manching. These are actually a pretty good example of how antiquities -should- be handled (well except for them being so easily stolen, but i digress). They were being kept in their nation of origin and made available to researchers after having been carefully documented and extracted by trained archeologists.
There is no cultural outrage to be had there, this is not the hill you're trying to die on... this is a totally unrelated hill over in the next country.
 
2022-11-23 3:03:51 PM  

chewd: Look, i know you guys recently watched that John Oliver bit about all the antiquities and cultural icons the west stole from Africa 100 years ago and wont return.
Yeah, that is very much a bad thing. The British Museum absolutely should return the Benin bronzes to Nigera. I totally 100% agree to that. Egyptian sculptures stolen by 1800s colonials should be returned to Egypt. No doubt about it.

These coins however, resided in a German museum after being found in a German archeological dig. They were found near Manching and were being kept in a museum in Manching. These are actually a pretty good example of how antiquities -should- be handled (well except for them being so easily stolen, but i digress). They were being kept in their nation of origin and made available to researchers after having been carefully documented and extracted by trained archeologists.
There is no cultural outrage to be had there, this is not the hill you're trying to die on... this is a totally unrelated hill over in the next country.


You're assuming they won't stolen thousands of years ago.
 
2022-11-23 3:06:59 PM  
What's in your wallet?!

/viking commercials
//remember them?
///three for slashies
 
2022-11-23 3:27:05 PM  
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2022-11-23 3:28:01 PM  
I don't know about the Celts, but I know a little something about how taxes and coinage worked in the British Kingdom around 1000 CE.  Gold coins were struck with an image and a date that were unique for each year, and they were, despite what libertarian believe about gold, only legal tender for a set number of years, normally five, from the moment they were struck.

It was illegal to trade with coins that had an expired date, and the penalties were pretty sever.  You could however take expired coins down to a royal mint, and trade them in for brand new coins, but you only got something like 3/5ths return, so if you gave them ten old expired coins, you got six brand new ones.  

This was one of the ways the crown collected taxes, and it was essentially a form of income tax in a time when they were not able to keep up with paper work like they can now.  Of course people cheated by trying to strike their own coins, but nothing the occasional drawing and quartering couldn't dissuade.

So basically, gold coins were fiat currency.
 
2022-11-23 3:37:04 PM  
does this guy have an alibi ??

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2022-11-23 4:33:41 PM  
What kind of asshole does that.  You don't deserve that gold, it belongs to everyone.
 
2022-11-23 5:02:46 PM  

chewd: iheartscotch: The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?

Meh, go ahead and ride your high-horse down that "all property is theft" rabbit hole.
The coins were being preserved and on display to the public.... now they'll be melted down and lost to history forever.


Hey now, our sketchy world economy needs this infusion.
 
2022-11-23 5:04:16 PM  
Clearly this is the work of the wee folk.

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2022-11-23 5:12:08 PM  

stuffy: If you have a large hoard of gold coins. Maybe hire some Vikings to guard them.


Or a dragon.
 
2022-11-23 5:12:54 PM  

medius: *whored


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2022-11-23 5:36:25 PM  

chewd: iheartscotch: The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?

Meh, go ahead and ride your high-horse down that "all property is theft" rabbit hole.
The coins were being preserved and on display to the public.... now they'll be melted down and lost to history forever.


how very British of you.
 
2022-11-23 5:39:25 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: makerofbadjokes: chewd: iheartscotch: The museum that robbed it fair and square from a tomb?

Meh, go ahead and ride your high-horse down that "all property is theft" rabbit hole.
The coins were being preserved and on display to the public.... now they'll be melted down and lost to history forever.

Why would they be melted down?

Worth far more to a collector as they are... sheesh.

And that's why you'll get caught with stolen gold coins.

Me, I'd rather bury them and draw up a map with a gigantic X marking the spot and put it along with a single coin with my will* in a safe, with plans to live long with my secret. I wouldn't tell a soul about my buried treasure.

I'd laugh heartily randomly as I think about my ill gained plunder. No prison could contain my joy. I'd HAR har har har and no one would know why I was so happy.

/My will, a bottle of booze, a joint, and a map
//Smoke up, drink up, read it and weep, mateys, I'm about to blow your mind


appreciates your effort

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2022-11-23 5:45:22 PM  

winedrinkingman: I don't know about the Celts, but I know a little something about how taxes and coinage worked in the British Kingdom around 1000 CE.  Gold coins were struck with an image and a date that were unique for each year, and they were, despite what libertarian believe about gold, only legal tender for a set number of years, normally five, from the moment they were struck.

It was illegal to trade with coins that had an expired date, and the penalties were pretty sever.  You could however take expired coins down to a royal mint, and trade them in for brand new coins, but you only got something like 3/5ths return, so if you gave them ten old expired coins, you got six brand new ones.  

This was one of the ways the crown collected taxes, and it was essentially a form of income tax in a time when they were not able to keep up with paper work like they can now.  Of course people cheated by trying to strike their own coins, but nothing the occasional drawing and quartering couldn't dissuade.

So basically, gold coins were fiat currency.


that's actually pretty brilliant.   TIL.

gold is also fiat because other than being shiny when cleaned, it's has few practical uses outside of electronics.

iron, copper, or aluminum would probably be more valuable in practical terms.
 
2022-11-23 6:41:23 PM  
The entire museum was guarded by... cameras. That's pathetic.
The linked stories in the article mentions that it could be one of the Arab or Chechen mafias that fight over territory and hit German museums (like this one) and yet they operate a museum in Europe in 2022 relying on people to just politely not steal. What world do they live in? Armed guards at minimum.
Yank its license, take anything from value to different museums (if they take things seriously) because it doesn't deserve to have them.
 
2022-11-23 8:49:18 PM  

6nome: You can usually find Vikings exiting the first-round.


Cold, but accurate.
 
2022-11-23 9:35:19 PM  

winedrinkingman: I don't know about the Celts, but I know a little something about how taxes and coinage worked in the British Kingdom around 1000 CE.  Gold coins were struck with an image and a date that were unique for each year, and they were, despite what libertarian believe about gold, only legal tender for a set number of years, normally five, from the moment they were struck.

It was illegal to trade with coins that had an expired date, and the penalties were pretty sever.  You could however take expired coins down to a royal mint, and trade them in for brand new coins, but you only got something like 3/5ths return, so if you gave them ten old expired coins, you got six brand new ones.  

This was one of the ways the crown collected taxes, and it was essentially a form of income tax in a time when they were not able to keep up with paper work like they can now.  Of course people cheated by trying to strike their own coins, but nothing the occasional drawing and quartering couldn't dissuade.

So basically, gold coins were fiat currency.


There's a photo of the coins in TFA.  I'll save you a click:  no dates on these coins.  No faces of kings or anything like that either.  They don't even look like they were die-struck.  They're extremely weird and I am very curious to know how they were made and even what they were used for -- they look like they're not a uniform weight, so almost every coin would have a different value from the others.
 
2022-11-23 9:42:12 PM  

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That is the saddest part, the crims will melt the coins and there goes the historic value :(
 
2022-11-23 10:53:53 PM  

winedrinkingman: I don't know about the Celts, but I know a little something about how taxes and coinage worked in the British Kingdom around 1000 CE.  Gold coins were struck with an image and a date that were unique for each year, and they were, despite what libertarian believe about gold, only legal tender for a set number of years, normally five, from the moment they were struck.

It was illegal to trade with coins that had an expired date, and the penalties were pretty sever.  You could however take expired coins down to a royal mint, and trade them in for brand new coins, but you only got something like 3/5ths return, so if you gave them ten old expired coins, you got six brand new ones.  

This was one of the ways the crown collected taxes, and it was essentially a form of income tax in a time when they were not able to keep up with paper work like they can now.  Of course people cheated by trying to strike their own coins, but nothing the occasional drawing and quartering couldn't dissuade.

So basically, gold coins were fiat currency.


Yeah, but all of this happened in what is now Germany. So I'm not sure how it matters how England, GB or the UK would have handled it.

/IIRC the Celts originally came from what is now Austria.
 
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