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2022-11-18 10:52:35 PM  
Cool.
All those people with one broadband provider to choose from will appreciate it.
 
2022-11-18 10:56:17 PM  
Did they fix the cable?
 
2022-11-18 10:58:12 PM  
It takes two hands to handle a whopper
 
2022-11-18 11:00:14 PM  
I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.
 
2022-11-18 11:20:19 PM  
Meh. The stupids have no idea what this means, they will continue to pay $100-$200/month for cable/fibre and subsidize people like me who know better.

/ $29/month for 100 Mb/s
// $10/month Amazon prime for the video (other benefits are gravy)
/// Roku & Freevee for lots more no-cost movies & TV
 
2022-11-18 11:20:49 PM  
Weaksauce bullshiat masquerading as regulation. Set minimum bandwidth and set prices. Break up the farking regional monopolies with gentleman's agreements not to encroach on each other's territory like farking smack dealers.

No one in their right mind would look at the nutrition label and think that's a good example of regulation. It's consumer education! It promotes desired changes in the market!

Every single bowl of cereal magically has 120 calories. Never mind the serving size ranges from 2/3 cup to 1 1/4 cup because they're all owned by the same two farking companies.

This individually wrapped danish? Yeah that's actually two servings of 350 calories. You should've shared it, tubby.
 
2022-11-18 11:22:59 PM  
Good luck, I'm behind Vitamin B-7.
 
2022-11-18 11:26:03 PM  

whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.


Check it at Speedtest.net. If that's what you're actually getting, rather than advertised, it's pretty good.  If it's a legit 90+/90+, they probably cheaped-out and bought previous-generation NICs either for your home or upstream.  Fiber goes a lot faster, but residential services are commonly bottlenecked by hardware.
 
2022-11-18 11:29:45 PM  

whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.


I'm in sort of rural Canada and can get 1.5 Gb down .94 up
 
2022-11-18 11:30:35 PM  

moothemagiccow: Weaksauce bullshiat masquerading as regulation. Set minimum bandwidth and set prices. Break up the farking regional monopolies with gentleman's agreements not to encroach on each other's territory like farking smack dealers.

No one in their right mind would look at the nutrition label and think that's a good example of regulation. It's consumer education! It promotes desired changes in the market!

Every single bowl of cereal magically has 120 calories. Never mind the serving size ranges from 2/3 cup to 1 1/4 cup because they're all owned by the same two farking companies.

This individually wrapped danish? Yeah that's actually two servings of 350 calories. You should've shared it, tubby.


Are you posting from the breakfast buffet?

/wants a danish
 
2022-11-18 11:32:46 PM  
Whatever. I still know Comcast sucks balls. Few hundred very fast download... And farking 5-10 Mbps upload. For real. The minute *any* provider gets here with fiber I'm gone.
 
2022-11-18 11:34:15 PM  
You could always try hotspotunlimited

"Verizon will also start alive with Mastercard at the payment community's tech hub in ny metropolis to look at various G for 'cell aspect accretion' and autonomous checkout together with automatic home door unlocking, voice and video ordering and stroll-in, stroll-out looking in various kinds of environments, the free up noted."
 
2022-11-18 11:52:08 PM  
Carbon footprint notably absent.
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/hey, if it's important for bitcoin...
 
2022-11-19 12:02:20 AM  

foo monkey: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

Check it at Speedtest.net. If that's what you're actually getting, rather than advertised, it's pretty good.  If it's a legit 90+/90+, they probably cheaped-out and bought previous-generation NICs either for your home or upstream.  Fiber goes a lot faster, but residential services are commonly bottlenecked by hardware.


SumoJeb: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

I'm in sort of rural Canada and can get 1.5 Gb down .94 up


Thanks! It's always 90Mb+ up and down.
Better than the  2Mb/200K I got with the line of sight radio antenna.
 
2022-11-19 12:16:39 AM  
I actually have 2 choices where my house is here in Orlando.

Spectrum or AT&T. Kinda damned if I do, damned if I don't. But AT&T is fiber with actual usable upload speeds.

Spectrum is cable of course and the upload speeds still suck. But in the last 4 or 5 years they've quietly upped us from 100 to 200 and now 300. That's nice and all, but I want upload speeds. I travel a lot and would love to access my Plex server.
 
2022-11-19 12:18:39 AM  

jaytkay: Meh. The stupids have no idea what this means, they will continue to pay $100-$200/month for cable/fibre and subsidize people like me who know better.

/ $29/month for 100 Mb/s
// $10/month Amazon prime for the video (other benefits are gravy)
/// Roku & Freevee for lots more no-cost movies & TV


I have 200mb up 30 down and it is more than enough.  We cut the cord for TV so everything is streaming, i have 2 kids that usually have 2 or 3 computers on at once... one for music videos, one for gaming and one for either homework or researching something.  On top of that we have the usual phones connected, ring doorbell, a few alexa, smart vacuum, wife works from home, smart thermostat etc.  We have never had any issue with our speed even when downloading  30g game updates.... no studder or streaming issues.
My sister inlaws husband keeps having slow internet issues so they call and are convinced to upgrade over and over.  They are finally at 1gig internet and still slow.   They are FINALLY going to get the router I recommended and let me set it up in a central location but they still firmly believe they need that 1gig internet for about 1k more than I pay per year.

If you have speed problems: 1, modem has to be on 1st split to the house, if you only have internet there should be no splitters about 47.5% of problems are from the split.  2 log into the modem and check signal strength, if it's bad with a straight connection to the cable company the line is damaged.  This is about 5% of all problems 3. And this is a BIG one, get a quality multi band router and put it central in the home.  Ok mine is to 1 side BUT my house is only 40 feet long.  Anyway balance the network, spend a day checking 2.4 and 5g signals around the house and try and make the load reasonable on both with the 5g handling the bulk of the devices close to the router.  I even dropped 1 cat 6 up to my daughters room, put in a tiny switch and run the kids desktops, gaming systems and rokus on them to lighten the wireless traffic but I only did it because I was able to attach it to the coax I was pulling out of the walls so it's all hidden.... whoever ran the coax never secured it in the walls so it was an easy pull.
 
2022-11-19 12:20:43 AM  

foo monkey: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

Check it at Speedtest.net. If that's what you're actually getting, rather than advertised, it's pretty good.  If it's a legit 90+/90+, they probably cheaped-out and bought previous-generation NICs either for your home or upstream.  Fiber goes a lot faster, but residential services are commonly bottlenecked by hardware.


They may have it 100/100 because of total capacity not cheaping out.  My 20 year old modem can do over 300
 
2022-11-19 12:20:59 AM  

whatshisname: foo monkey: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

Check it at Speedtest.net. If that's what you're actually getting, rather than advertised, it's pretty good.  If it's a legit 90+/90+, they probably cheaped-out and bought previous-generation NICs either for your home or upstream.  Fiber goes a lot faster, but residential services are commonly bottlenecked by hardware.

SumoJeb: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

I'm in sort of rural Canada and can get 1.5 Gb down .94 up

Thanks! It's always 90Mb+ up and down.
Better than the  2Mb/200K I got with the line of sight radio antenna.


I don't know if where you are this is applicable, but if you have access to Shaw and Telus I found the prices they offered me were a hell of a lot lower once I had both provider's fibre run into my home.
 
2022-11-19 12:39:30 AM  

whatshisname: foo monkey: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

Check it at Speedtest.net. If that's what you're actually getting, rather than advertised, it's pretty good.  If it's a legit 90+/90+, they probably cheaped-out and bought previous-generation NICs either for your home or upstream.  Fiber goes a lot faster, but residential services are commonly bottlenecked by hardware.

SumoJeb: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

I'm in sort of rural Canada and can get 1.5 Gb down .94 up

Thanks! It's always 90Mb+ up and down.
Better than the  2Mb/200K I got with the line of sight radio antenna.


Next step is to check the adapter where the fiber comes into your home and is converted to Ethernet. Should be a small rectangular dongle with two square plugs going in, one Ethernet going out, and some blinking lights. Look up the model and see if it's 100Mbps or 1Gbps.  There's a chance this is your bottleneck. Get your hands on a 1Gbps model, swap it out, and see what happens.
 
2022-11-19 12:54:39 AM  
For years, my cable company was delivering slightly more speed than I was paying for every time I tested it.  They recently started advertising starting speeds of 300mbps instead of the old 200mbps so I checked my speed.  160-170mbps.  FFS.  Maybe they're only bumping up 3.1 modems even tho my old 8x4 3.0 modem is technically capable of handling 300mbps but I should still be getting my old speed.  :P

Not that it really matters.  I only notice the bump from 60/3 to 200/10 when I'm downloading a game or game updates.  Nothing else I do even comes close to saturating the pipe.  What matters is the lack of a data cap.
 
2022-11-19 1:13:04 AM  

LordOfThePings: Good luck, I'm behind Vitamin B-7.


At least your not lacking in lithium-6.

/s
 
2022-11-19 1:16:06 AM  

genner: Cool.
All those people with one broadband provider to choose from will appreciate it.


Those will have labels that just say "fark you" for every line.
 
2022-11-19 5:49:24 AM  
In the new 2022 version they want latency reported in Mega-seconds, that should be interesting.
 
2022-11-19 5:57:42 AM  

whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.


I'm in greater Vancouver and get a full 1 Gb (down/up symmetrical) for ~$70/month CAD all in, and they just upgraded the building to support 2.5 Gb fiber (but that seems excessive, and I'm a work-from-home geek)

Shaw and TELUS can kiss my ass. Was glad to drop them as soon as I could
 
2022-11-19 7:56:15 AM  
We switched from DSL to fiber this past year, saving aboot $10 a month and increasing our d/l speed by over 10x. We got the bottom-end plan with a supposed 300 Mbps but regularly only see around 220 Mbps. Our DSL line was about 22 Mbps, and despite having up to 4 users on at any time, didn't usually have any hang ups (we're not streamers unless you count YT).  I'm not gonna biatch not getting the full 300 as we aren't using one tenth of that bandwidth.
 
2022-11-19 10:38:35 AM  
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Well, I'm certainly looking to cut down on my trans fat from my ISP.
 
2022-11-19 12:12:00 PM  

MBooda: Carbon footprint notably absent.
[Fark user image image 850x1404]/hey, if it's important for bitcoin...


The problem with Bitcoin is that it is utterly useless for anything.
 
2022-11-19 12:16:33 PM  

foo monkey: whatshisname: foo monkey: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

Check it at Speedtest.net. If that's what you're actually getting, rather than advertised, it's pretty good.  If it's a legit 90+/90+, they probably cheaped-out and bought previous-generation NICs either for your home or upstream.  Fiber goes a lot faster, but residential services are commonly bottlenecked by hardware.

SumoJeb: whatshisname: I just got fiber in rural Canada.
Best they can do is 100Mb up and 100Mb down.
Is that normal? Maybe it's due to crappy infrastructure connecting the tubes.

I'm in sort of rural Canada and can get 1.5 Gb down .94 up

Thanks! It's always 90Mb+ up and down.
Better than the  2Mb/200K I got with the line of sight radio antenna.

Next step is to check the adapter where the fiber comes into your home and is converted to Ethernet. Should be a small rectangular dongle with two square plugs going in, one Ethernet going out, and some blinking lights. Look up the model and see if it's 100Mbps or 1Gbps.  There's a chance this is your bottleneck. Get your hands on a 1Gbps model, swap it out, and see what happens.


When I had fiber, I had to get a new router as mine switched just fine at gig but couldn't route above like 300 Mbps. I only used the att router as passthrough because the UI sucked and I don't trust att to not implement bullshiat. The ONT itself shouldn't be the problem unless your ISP is really bad.
 
2022-11-19 12:20:53 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: MBooda: Carbon footprint notably absent.
[Fark user image image 850x1404]/hey, if it's important for bitcoin...

The problem with Bitcoin is that it is utterly useless for anything.


It's exceptional for money laundering.
 
2022-11-19 2:25:57 PM  
It'd be nice if they also included a test for latency under load (i.e. bufferbloat).
 
2022-11-19 2:28:36 PM  

JustHereForThePics: [Fark user image 425x283]

Well, I'm certainly looking to cut down on my trans fat from my ISP.


Usually it's the receive pipe that's fatter than transmit.
 
2022-11-19 3:30:42 PM  

foo monkey: Shakin_Haitian: MBooda: Carbon footprint notably absent.
[Fark user image image 850x1404]/hey, if it's important for bitcoin...

The problem with Bitcoin is that it is utterly useless for anything.

It's exceptional for money laundering.


It was until all the money laundering services started getting taken down.
 
2022-11-19 4:57:57 PM  
I'm stuck in what is essentially an Xfinity monopoly. The only alternative I now for certain I can get is Verizon's crappy 25-50mb LTE service. Xfinity charges an arm and a leg because they can, and continually ups the price. Most conspicuously after the lockdown $50 emergency broadband credit went into effect. At the time I had a non-contract 100mb plan that was around $53 a month, so almost free after credit. That last for about six months then just as the credit went down to $30, Xfinity bumps the cost to $83 so after the credit I'm back to paying the same $53 that I was prior to the credit went into effect.

About the only good things that have happened is they've bumped the upload to 10mb from 5mb, and the download is now 200mb. But if Verizon would roll out FIOS around here I could be having 300/300 for around $30 a month before credit, or even 500/500 for less than I'm paying now after credit.
 
2022-11-19 5:54:28 PM  

SumoJeb: I'm in sort of rural Canada


WTF is "sort of" rural Canada. Is you're beaver hat smaller and your canoe less fancy?
 
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