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koder [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-11-17 3:09:19 PM  
chose to use us because we are, in reality, the largest and most effective ticket seller in the world

No, you have monopoly-level power across most venues and require people ticketing them to use your parent company. You deserve to be antitrusted into oblivion.
 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark]
2022-11-17 3:32:11 PM  
I guess she's too popular.. well, definitely more popular than whatever weirdos they have running that scam.
 
JohnBigBootay
2022-11-17 3:55:03 PM  
Dude made some very good factual points. And ticketmaster needs to die or have more competition. It feels like to me that they are in cahoots with the resellers and I don't know why anyone would defend that - certainly no one but scalpers.

I honestly think one way to solve it is to make tickets non-transferable. That would invite a host of new problems but I do think it would solve the biggest issue here, which is basically fully auotomatted scalping.
 
Unsung_Hero
2022-11-17 4:03:09 PM  
The problem is the only people against this monopoly are a portion of the ticket buyers, with some annoyance from sellers who aren't able to collect that sweet scalper premium.

It wouldn't be particularly technically difficult to have every venue run its own ticket system, and sell tickets tied to ID you'd have to present to get in.  Nobody wants to to that because A) it would take some effort and B) Ticketmaster would crush the venue.
 
fearmongert
2022-11-17 4:04:20 PM  
TicketBastard and Slime Nation can go EABOD!
 
OccamsWhiskers
2022-11-17 4:10:05 PM  
I used to work for a small company that had been recently acquired by Ticketmaster. It was many years ago, but they were already famously exploitative - the Pearl Jam Incident was not too much earlier.

As bad as everyone knew they were, they were objectively worse to employees.

They have always had legit technical challenges with surges of activity that few other businesses have ever faced, but it's hard to understand how they've not been able to turn their very generous fees into internet platforms that can handle it smoothly.
 
skyotter
2022-11-17 4:11:06 PM  
This Ticketmaster thing has reduced her to tears.
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DecemberNitro
2022-11-17 4:12:39 PM  
This won't end well for Ticketmaster.
 
Smelly Pirate Hooker
2022-11-17 4:12:57 PM  
A rich white guy blamed someone else for his farkup? Shocking. I'm shocked.
 
CarnySaur [TotalFark]
2022-11-17 4:19:07 PM  
UPDATE: Ticketmaster has announced that the general-public ticket sales for Taylor Swift's Eras tour, set to begin tomorrow, has been "cancelled." It's not clear whether that means the tickets are all sold out or whether Ticketmaster is just attempting to shy away from the backlash that greeted the early sales, but anyone still scrambling to get those tickets might now be shiat out of luck.

That'll definitely garner some goodwill for them.
 
Shryke
2022-11-17 4:19:44 PM  
Someone should put Tay Tay over their knee and spank her naughty ass.
 
DeathByGeekSquad
2022-11-17 4:23:22 PM  
I wish I had done the Taylor Swift presale now.

/scalpers are probably salivating at their profits
//because you know the scalping groups nabbed a bunch
 
enry [TotalFark]
2022-11-17 4:37:51 PM  
Any company in 2022 that says "we can't scale" needs a punch in the junk.
 
Bslim [TotalFark]
2022-11-17 4:41:12 PM  
All that rambling statement sounded straight out of the Boomer playlist and sure enough:

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eagles95
2022-11-17 4:50:26 PM  
Waiting for Beyonce to go on tour and the same thing happen. I kind of want to watch the hive destroy everything
 
Kid Lester
2022-11-17 4:50:57 PM  

Shryke: Someone should put Tay Tay over their knee and spank her naughty ass.


I'm happy to be the subject of that song
 
NewWorldDan
2022-11-17 5:00:17 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I guess she's too popular.. well, definitely more popular than whatever weirdos they have running that scam.


Nobody goes to her concerts anymore, it's too hard to get tickets.
 
Thank You Black Jesus! [BareFark]
2022-11-17 5:13:10 PM  

OccamsWhiskers: I used to work for a small company that had been recently acquired by Ticketmaster. It was many years ago, but they were already famously exploitative - the Pearl Jam Incident was not too much earlier.

As bad as everyone knew they were, they were objectively worse to employees.

They have always had legit technical challenges with surges of activity that few other businesses have ever faced, but it's hard to understand how they've not been able to turn their very generous fees into internet platforms that can handle it smoothly.


no it isn't - it's because they don't have to.  the fact that they own stubhub should be a monopoly case but whaddya gonna do?

/oh the show sold out in seconds?  how about triple face value through a reseller (that just happens to be us, astonishing coincidence notwithstanding)
 
JTtheCajun
2022-11-17 5:17:11 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: I wish I had done the Taylor Swift presale now.

/scalpers are probably salivating at their profits
//because you know the scalping groups nabbed a bunch


I tried. I genuinely wanted to grab 2 tickets for my wife and I (she's a huuuge fan) but I was going to flip those other four, since you had a  six ticket limit. Yeah, yeah, the problem is me. Don't hate the playa, hate the capitalism that allows raw exploitation.
 
JohnBigBootay
2022-11-17 5:18:56 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: I wish I had done the Taylor Swift presale now.

/scalpers are probably salivating at their profits
//because you know the scalping groups nabbed a bunch


https://www.stubhub.com/taylor-swift-seattle-tickets-7-22-2023/event/150593667/?quantity=1&sections=196172&ticketClasses=17337&listingQty=

here you go. You can get yourself a view obscured behind the stage ticket for only $1100.
 
baronbloodbath [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-11-17 5:34:08 PM  
The rabble scraping and scrabbling for their circuses. How it does amuse me so.

Let me know well before they run out of bread.
 
germ78
2022-11-17 5:35:24 PM  
The thing is that people will pay the scalpers' extraordinary prices, the scalpers will eat well, and ain't nothin' gonna happen.

The only way I'd be convinced something would change is if Taylor Swift was playing to empty arenas and stadia because no one paid the scalpers.
 
hoodiowithtudio
2022-11-17 5:35:57 PM  
This is where not tickets would have been helpful.
 
hoodiowithtudio
2022-11-17 5:36:25 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: This is where not tickets would have been helpful.


NFT. Car nudged me.
 
hoodiowithtudio
2022-11-17 5:36:42 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: hoodiowithtudio: This is where not tickets would have been helpful.

NFT. Car nudged me.


Cat nudged me again, dag nabbit.
 
drewogatory
2022-11-17 5:52:43 PM  
If you're name is Taylor you should really play a Taylor. Just a thought.
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2022-11-17 5:57:48 PM  

drewogatory: If you're name is Taylor you should really play a Taylor. Just a thought.


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Mad_Radhu
2022-11-17 5:59:50 PM  
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OldRod [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-11-17 6:08:54 PM  
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grumpfuff
2022-11-17 6:10:27 PM  
"It's Taylor's fault because she's too popular" is at least kinda honest. Their systems are likely not ready to handle a horde like that because it doesn't normally happen.
 
DeathByGeekSquad
2022-11-17 6:17:24 PM  

JohnBigBootay: DeathByGeekSquad: I wish I had done the Taylor Swift presale now.

/scalpers are probably salivating at their profits
//because you know the scalping groups nabbed a bunch

https://www.stubhub.com/taylor-swift-seattle-tickets-7-22-2023/event/150593667/?quantity=1§ions=196172&ticketClasses=17337&listingQty=

here you go. You can get yourself a view obscured behind the stage ticket for only $1100.


I would've had access at cost as a STH for a local stadium.  My actual seats are listed above $2k at the moment by someone who grabbed them during the presale.
 
raerae1980 [TotalFark]
2022-11-17 6:21:24 PM  

eagles95: Waiting for Beyonce to go on tour and the same thing happen. I kind of want to watch the hive destroy everything


I am SO dragging my husband to see her next time she's in L.A.  He still owes me for going to Cannibal Corpse with him.
 
Trail of BABYMETAL DEATH
2022-11-17 6:24:28 PM  
"... and bots but that's another story"

Eat shiat, LiveNation guy. fark off.
 
REO-Weedwagon
2022-11-17 6:29:35 PM  
Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.
 
ZMugg [TotalFark]
2022-11-17 6:41:52 PM  

Shryke: Someone should put Tay Tay over their knee and spank her naughty ass.


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Good luck finding it.
 
DesertCoyote [OhFark]
2022-11-17 6:52:03 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.


This. I'm not defending TicketMaster, but TS is a shrewd businesswoman who cares more about making money than her fans.
 
Flaming Gas Bag
2022-11-17 7:10:50 PM  

DesertCoyote: REO-Weedwagon: Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.

This. I'm not defending TicketMaster, but TS is a shrewd businesswoman who cares more about making money than her fans.


And your conclusion is based on what evidence?
 
DesertCoyote [OhFark]
2022-11-17 7:16:08 PM  

Flaming Gas Bag: DesertCoyote: REO-Weedwagon: Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.

This. I'm not defending TicketMaster, but TS is a shrewd businesswoman who cares more about making money than her fans.

And your conclusion is based on what evidence?


If she cared about her fans and not the money, she'd tell them to illegally download her original recordings to get back at the label head who tried to sabotage her career instead of rewriting history by releasing albums of re-records that don't sound the same as the originals. She's nearly 35 - her voice isn't what it was at 17.
 
germ78
2022-11-17 7:19:55 PM  

ZMugg: Shryke: Someone should put Tay Tay over their knee and spank her naughty ass.

[static.ok.co.uk image 625x938]
Good luck finding it.


Someone needs to shop Hank Hill's head onto her body.
 
luidprand
2022-11-17 7:23:07 PM  

DesertCoyote: Flaming Gas Bag: DesertCoyote: REO-Weedwagon: Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.

This. I'm not defending TicketMaster, but TS is a shrewd businesswoman who cares more about making money than her fans.

And your conclusion is based on what evidence?

If she cared about her fans and not the money, she'd tell them to illegally download her original recordings to get back at the label head who tried to sabotage her career instead of rewriting history by releasing albums of re-records that don't sound the same as the originals. She's nearly 35 - her voice isn't what it was at 17.


No one in their right mind would do that. That's a great way to get slapped with a lawsuit. Pretty much only Weird Al can get away with doing something like that, and that only worked because distribution of the Roku service is patchy at best.

/Also, she sounds better now than she did then. Which is normal for most singers.
 
DesertCoyote [OhFark]
2022-11-17 7:30:18 PM  

luidprand: DesertCoyote: Flaming Gas Bag: DesertCoyote: REO-Weedwagon: Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.

This. I'm not defending TicketMaster, but TS is a shrewd businesswoman who cares more about making money than her fans.

And your conclusion is based on what evidence?

If she cared about her fans and not the money, she'd tell them to illegally download her original recordings to get back at the label head who tried to sabotage her career instead of rewriting history by releasing albums of re-records that don't sound the same as the originals. She's nearly 35 - her voice isn't what it was at 17.

No one in their right mind would do that. That's a great way to get slapped with a lawsuit. Pretty much only Weird Al can get away with doing something like that, and that only worked because distribution of the Roku service is patchy at best.

/Also, she sounds better now than she did then. Which is normal for most singers.


Do you know of any artist that re-recorded their own music to receive more airplay for the re-record than the original (besides the digitally-altered recording of Nat King Cole's "Unforgettable" with his daughter's vocals added to it)? It doesn't happen, because people associate an artist's music with their original recordings. TS knows this. She'd rather have her masters back than re-record all her albums. She just doesn't want to finance Scooter Braun in any way.

I'm sick of people trying to canonize Tay-Tay. Despite what people think, her shiat stinks too.
 
luidprand
2022-11-17 7:56:05 PM  

DesertCoyote: luidprand: DesertCoyote: Flaming Gas Bag: DesertCoyote: REO-Weedwagon: Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.

This. I'm not defending TicketMaster, but TS is a shrewd businesswoman who cares more about making money than her fans.

And your conclusion is based on what evidence?

If she cared about her fans and not the money, she'd tell them to illegally download her original recordings to get back at the label head who tried to sabotage her career instead of rewriting history by releasing albums of re-records that don't sound the same as the originals. She's nearly 35 - her voice isn't what it was at 17.

No one in their right mind would do that. That's a great way to get slapped with a lawsuit. Pretty much only Weird Al can get away with doing something like that, and that only worked because distribution of the Roku service is patchy at best.

/Also, she sounds better now than she did then. Which is normal for most singers.

Do you know of any artist that re-recorded their own music to receive more airplay for the re-record than the original (besides the digitally-altered recording of Nat King Cole's "Unforgettable" with his daughter's vocals added to it)? It doesn't happen, because people associate an artist's music with their original recordings. TS knows this. She'd rather have her masters back than re-record all her albums. She just doesn't want to finance Scooter Braun in any way.

I'm sick of people trying to canonize Tay-Tay. Despite what people think, her shiat stinks too.


Seriously? They're lots of remasters, concert versions, remixes, and other reissues, all different from the original. "Blue Monday", the best-selling 12" single of all time (and for damn good reason) for example, has three different studio versions, and people argue over which is better, to say nothing of concert versions, collaborations, and the time Bernard Summer guested with the Killers.

And Elvis? Elvis and early rock artists did constant reissues. So did jazz musicians. Remaking and rerecording was very, very common.

Also, again, telling people to torrent songs would absolutely result in a lawsuit from Scooter, who has just as deep pockets as she does.
 
RowdyPants
2022-11-17 7:59:07 PM  
Yeah you burn that bridge Live Nation!!!
 
DesertCoyote [OhFark]
2022-11-17 7:59:46 PM  

luidprand: DesertCoyote: luidprand: DesertCoyote: Flaming Gas Bag: DesertCoyote: REO-Weedwagon: Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.

This. I'm not defending TicketMaster, but TS is a shrewd businesswoman who cares more about making money than her fans.

And your conclusion is based on what evidence?

If she cared about her fans and not the money, she'd tell them to illegally download her original recordings to get back at the label head who tried to sabotage her career instead of rewriting history by releasing albums of re-records that don't sound the same as the originals. She's nearly 35 - her voice isn't what it was at 17.

No one in their right mind would do that. That's a great way to get slapped with a lawsuit. Pretty much only Weird Al can get away with doing something like that, and that only worked because distribution of the Roku service is patchy at best.

/Also, she sounds better now than she did then. Which is normal for most singers.

Do you know of any artist that re-recorded their own music to receive more airplay for the re-record than the original (besides the digitally-altered recording of Nat King Cole's "Unforgettable" with his daughter's vocals added to it)? It doesn't happen, because people associate an artist's music with their original recordings. TS knows this. She'd rather have her masters back than re-record all her albums. She just doesn't want to finance Scooter Braun in any way.

I'm sick of people trying to canonize Tay-Tay. Despite what people think, her shiat stinks too.

Seriously? They're lots of remasters, concert versions, remixes, and other reissues, all different from the original. "Blue Monday", the best-selling 12" single of all time (and for damn good reason) for example, has three different studio versions, and people argue over which is better, to say nothing of concert versions, collaborations, and the time Bernard Summer guested with the Killers.

And Elvis? Elvis and early rock artists did constant reissues. So did jazz musicians. Remaking and rerecording was very, very common.

Also, again, telling people to torrent songs would absolutely result in a lawsuit from Scooter, who has just as deep pockets as she does.


Scooter merged his company with South Korea's BigHit Music, creating Hybe. He may still own a large chunk, but he isn't in total control of her old masters anymore. And I'm 100 percent sure he's not a billionaire like Tay-Tay.
 
Kitty2.0 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-11-17 8:15:54 PM  

DesertCoyote: luidprand: DesertCoyote: luidprand: DesertCoyote: Flaming Gas Bag: DesertCoyote: REO-Weedwagon: Ticketmaster/LiveNation is unfiltered evil for sure, but there's also some marketing fluff happening on Swift's end. By around the third or fourth stop of the tour you'll be able to wait a few minutes before the show starts and buy a ticket off StubHub for $30.

This. I'm not defending TicketMaster, but TS is a shrewd businesswoman who cares more about making money than her fans.

And your conclusion is based on what evidence?

If she cared about her fans and not the money, she'd tell them to illegally download her original recordings to get back at the label head who tried to sabotage her career instead of rewriting history by releasing albums of re-records that don't sound the same as the originals. She's nearly 35 - her voice isn't what it was at 17.

No one in their right mind would do that. That's a great way to get slapped with a lawsuit. Pretty much only Weird Al can get away with doing something like that, and that only worked because distribution of the Roku service is patchy at best.

/Also, she sounds better now than she did then. Which is normal for most singers.

Do you know of any artist that re-recorded their own music to receive more airplay for the re-record than the original (besides the digitally-altered recording of Nat King Cole's "Unforgettable" with his daughter's vocals added to it)? It doesn't happen, because people associate an artist's music with their original recordings. TS knows this. She'd rather have her masters back than re-record all her albums. She just doesn't want to finance Scooter Braun in any way.

I'm sick of people trying to canonize Tay-Tay. Despite what people think, her shiat stinks too.

Seriously? They're lots of remasters, concert versions, remixes, and other reissues, all different from the original. "Blue Monday", the best-selling 12" single of all time (and for damn good reason) for example, has three different studio versions, and people argue over which is better, to say nothing of concert versions, collaborations, and the time Bernard Summer guested with the Killers.

And Elvis? Elvis and early rock artists did constant reissues. So did jazz musicians. Remaking and rerecording was very, very common.

Also, again, telling people to torrent songs would absolutely result in a lawsuit from Scooter, who has just as deep pockets as she does.

Scooter merged his company with South Korea's BigHit Music, creating Hybe. He may still own a large chunk, but he isn't in total control of her old masters anymore. And I'm 100 percent sure he's not a billionaire like Tay-Tay.


LOLOL You're pretty sure and absolutely wrong...

As of November 2022, Taylor Swift's net worth is $400 Million,

Scooter Braun is an American music manager who has a net worth of $500 million.
 
jmr61
2022-11-17 8:16:15 PM  

Shryke: Someone should put Tay Tay over their knee and spank her naughty ass.


Me Me Me Me Me Me Me
 
jmr61
2022-11-17 8:20:35 PM  

ZMugg: Shryke: Someone should put Tay Tay over their knee and spank her naughty ass.

[static.ok.co.uk image 625x938]
Good luck finding it.


You have the wrong perspective.

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baltimoreblonde
2022-11-17 8:43:37 PM  

jmr61: ZMugg: Shryke: Someone should put Tay Tay over their knee and spank her naughty ass.

[static.ok.co.uk image 625x938]
Good luck finding it.

You have the wrong perspective.

[Fark user image 460x649]


Looks like she shaves the private property. And is that a camel toe?

/need some eyebleach
 
Kitty2.0 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-11-17 9:21:11 PM  

baltimoreblonde: jmr61: ZMugg: Shryke: Someone should put Tay Tay over their knee and spank her naughty ass.

[static.ok.co.uk image 625x938]
Good luck finding it.

You have the wrong perspective.

[Fark user image 460x649]

Looks like she shaves the private property. And is that a camel toe?

/need some eyebleach


Sorry you're not sportin' like Taylor, she's gorgeous.
 
pdieten
2022-11-17 10:09:45 PM  
Last time I went to a concert was in September. Had an unrelated errand in Madison, so as long as I was going to be in town, I bought a seat to a performance of Beethoven's 9th before I left. Plenty of open seats.

No hassle for a better musical experience.
 
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