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Original [TotalFark]
2022-11-09 10:00:52 PM  
Original Tweet:
 
Ghastly [TotalFark]
2022-11-10 2:52:47 AM  
This is bad news... ... for Obama!
 
Alphax
2022-11-10 4:56:20 AM  
AP only wants you to think they are neutral.  They are not.
 
Aussie_As
2022-11-10 4:57:50 AM  
The choice is write an article about "why my predictions fell flat at the midterms" or alternatively "of course I'm right, and here are some sketchy arguments why I"m always right". The first choice is about honesty, the second is about anything from bullshiat to full-blown narcisism, judge for yourself.

Clicking the link doesn't deliver the article so we can't actually analyse his bullshiat analysis, but safe to say it's bullshiat.
 
stoli n coke
2022-11-10 5:00:27 AM  
The punditverse has been taking flack since Wednesday morning for ignoring the 5 elephants in the room wearing judge's robes in order to keep the "Big Red Wave" narrative going. They have to spin this as doom and gloom or people will start tuning them out.
 
born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2022-11-10 5:00:47 AM  
AP might as well be FOX at this point
 
A_Flying_Toaster [OhFark]
2022-11-10 5:01:47 AM  
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misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2022-11-10 5:02:56 AM  
"Outperformed expectations" = beat the lowered expectations by shiatty polls.

Remember when Fark was greening Michael Moore statements of a Democratic blowout? Democrats underperformed his expectations.
 
Ragin' Asian [TotalFark]
2022-11-10 5:06:46 AM  
It's obvious the Democrats' success this past Tuesday is part of Trump's rope-a-dope strategy which will result in a 2024 victory and ZE REICH VILL LAST A SOUZAND YEEARZ!
 
Hey Nurse! [OhFark]
2022-11-10 5:10:16 AM  
Dems are in disarray. What about Hunter Biden? What does Hillary have on the voters in Arizona? Why isn't someone looking at the massive fraud in Pennsylvania? Obama gave speeches - I thought he retired? What kind of power does Joe Biden have over a retired black man? I'm just asking questions here.
 
born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2022-11-10 5:10:29 AM  
If Dems had taken the senate, Biden would have been f*cked!
 
stoli n coke
2022-11-10 5:13:30 AM  

Hey Nurse!: Dems are in disarray. What about Hunter Biden? What does Hillary have on the voters in Arizona? Why isn't someone looking at the massive fraud in Pennsylvania? Obama gave speeches - I thought he retired? What kind of power does Joe Biden have over a retired black man? I'm just asking questions here.


Exactly. And who keeps shiatting in Tucker Carlson's pants while he's wearing them?
 
Hey Nurse! [OhFark]
2022-11-10 5:14:47 AM  

stoli n coke: Hey Nurse!: Dems are in disarray. What about Hunter Biden? What does Hillary have on the voters in Arizona? Why isn't someone looking at the massive fraud in Pennsylvania? Obama gave speeches - I thought he retired? What kind of power does Joe Biden have over a retired black man? I'm just asking questions here.

Exactly. And who keeps shiatting in Tucker Carlson's pants while he's wearing them?


Speaking of, I have it on very good authority he has a murder closet.
 
ArcadianRefugee
2022-11-10 5:17:43 AM  

Hey Nurse!: stoli n coke: Hey Nurse!: Dems are in disarray. What about Hunter Biden? What does Hillary have on the voters in Arizona? Why isn't someone looking at the massive fraud in Pennsylvania? Obama gave speeches - I thought he retired? What kind of power does Joe Biden have over a retired black man? I'm just asking questions here.

Exactly. And who keeps shiatting in Tucker Carlson's pants while he's wearing them?

Speaking of, I have it on very good authority he has a murder closet.


A lot of people are saying that.
 
chucknasty [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-11-10 5:20:45 AM  
Oregon gov will be a dem despite a loser gun nut running as an independent trying to split the vote. this is good.
that whore in AZ is going to lose. this is good.
Fetterman won. this is good.

on the whole I am pretty happy that trump's people got voted out. a few scary people won but that is not unexpected.

cruz drinking a white claw in interview. stay classy. are you a junior high school girl? who drinks the claw?
 
Aussie_As
2022-11-10 5:28:13 AM  
I guess the writer of TFA has written about this being bad for Biden so he doesn't have to be writing yet another article about how this is demonstrably bad for Trump and the GOP knives are out after Trump-backed candidates ruined their night yet DeSantis cruised home in Florida.

Given how many times I've previously written Trump off only to see him dominating the GQP days or weeks later, is this the one or are we at last getting close to the point where he is actually seen as yesterday's guy? My concern at this point is if the Republicans take the House AND are sufficiently disciplined they'll open up some House inquiries into, I dunno, Hunter Biden or election drop boxes or whatever and that would re-energise Trump considerably.
 
DarnoKonrad
2022-11-10 5:33:51 AM  
we could have done better.  And "not losing everything" doesn't exactly make me feel optimistic for the future.


Half the voters in this nation are enemies to liberal democratic pluralism.  They want illiberal autocratic nationalism -- and they'll put us in mass graves to get it.
 
Shaggy_C
2022-11-10 5:35:35 AM  
Love the knee jerk reaction here. How about you read the article before spouting off about how the AP is Fox News? Here it is, wasn't hard to find: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-government-and-politics-8ed56d6b86fa17a407a49d625c75de3f

The big takeaway was that the exit polls showed a lot of voter dissatisfaction with Biden personally even if the voters were picking Democrats.

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Check out that mental capacity question...ouch.
 
BitwiseShift
2022-11-10 5:36:19 AM  

stoli n coke: Hey Nurse!: Dems are in disarray. What about Hunter Biden? What does Hillary have on the voters in Arizona? Why isn't someone looking at the massive fraud in Pennsylvania? Obama gave speeches - I thought he retired? What kind of power does Joe Biden have over a retired black man? I'm just asking questions here.

Exactly. And who keeps shiatting in Tucker Carlson's pants while he's wearing them?


Tuckers pants?  That would be AP embedded, also known as Anal suPpository
 
A_Listless_Wanderer
2022-11-10 5:37:16 AM  
The real wins are PA and MI. Without them, the Repubs have no path to the White House in '24.
 
hubiestubert [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-11-10 5:55:39 AM  
Here's the thing: young people showed up this go around. Heck, they elected a 25 year old to the US Congress. They're gonna keep showing up, and in the meantime, the GOP base is dying off.

If the GOP is smart, they're going to detach from the Crazy Train, and try something else. But, I don't think that there's a lot of hope for that. The rubes still have cash, and these are folks who used to grazing on their constituents, so it's only going to come about when they consistently lose.

For the party that claims that it's about a sure and steady hand, they have invested a lot into radicals who hate the very concept of governance. Oddly enough, even their 'leaders' don't exactly inspire a lot of confidence. And they're gonna keep 'investing' in them, until they don't have any more money to suckle from.
 
sinner4ever
2022-11-10 5:58:55 AM  
It really is something watching Dems celebrate victory because they didn't lose as badly as they thought they would.
This was winnable. Red states were passing a minimum wage increase. Progressive policy is popular. Instead ,now they get another excuse to not pass anything (except corporate hand-outs) and the Parliamentarian can go into hibernation.
 
stoli n coke
2022-11-10 6:07:02 AM  

hubiestubert: Here's the thing: young people showed up this go around. Heck, they elected a 25 year old to the US Congress. They're gonna keep showing up, and in the meantime, the GOP base is dying off.

If the GOP is smart, they're going to detach from the Crazy Train, and try something else. But, I don't think that there's a lot of hope for that. The rubes still have cash, and these are folks who used to grazing on their constituents, so it's only going to come about when they consistently lose.

For the party that claims that it's about a sure and steady hand, they have invested a lot into radicals who hate the very concept of governance. Oddly enough, even their 'leaders' don't exactly inspire a lot of confidence. And they're gonna keep 'investing' in them, until they don't have any more money to suckle from.


Young people finally realized they have skin in the game. 18-35 year old voters are by far the voters most likely to face an unplanned pregnancy. This summer, the Supreme Court gave politicians permission to make those voters' most personal medical decisions for them. Even if that voter's pregnancy was the result of that voter being criminally violated. And those voters aren't standing for that.

The kids did good this year. Way better than the hippies who got Nixon re-elected in a landslide.
 
usahole
2022-11-10 6:11:28 AM  

sinner4ever: It really is something watching Dems celebrate victory because they didn't lose as badly as they thought they would.
This was winnable. Red states were passing a minimum wage increase. Progressive policy is popular. Instead ,now they get another excuse to not pass anything (except corporate hand-outs) and the Parliamentarian can go into hibernation.


We get it, Dems winning makes you sad
 
holdmybones
2022-11-10 6:12:51 AM  

misanthropicsob: "Outperformed expectations" = beat the lowered expectations by shiatty polls.

Remember when Fark was greening Michael Moore statements of a Democratic blowout? Democrats underperformed his expectations.


Your grasp of American politics is as strong as your understanding of most things.

Log into a different account and try again.
 
Muta
2022-11-10 6:14:42 AM  

sinner4ever: It really is something watching Dems celebrate victory because they didn't lose as badly as they thought they would.


As a Lion's fan, I understand.  I'll be celebrating a good showing on Thanksgiving if they're within 24 points of the Bills.
 
rubi_con_man
2022-11-10 6:17:17 AM  

Ghastly: This is bad news... ... for Obama!


Why are you commenting here instead of writing new comics?
 
Exluddite [TotalFark]
2022-11-10 6:18:32 AM  

Shaggy_C: Love the knee jerk reaction here. How about you read the article before spouting off about how the AP is Fox News? Here it is, wasn't hard to find: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-government-and-politics-8ed56d6b86fa17a407a49d625c75de3f

The big takeaway was that the exit polls showed a lot of voter dissatisfaction with Biden personally even if the voters were picking Democrats.

[Fark user image image 425x450]

Check out that mental capacity question...ouch.


It's almost as if every right wing media outlet has been pushing that narrative as hard as they can.
 
Gestalt
2022-11-10 6:19:06 AM  

DarnoKonrad: we could have done better.  And "not losing everything" doesn't exactly make me feel optimistic for the future.


Half the voters in this nation are enemies to liberal democratic pluralism.  They want illiberal autocratic nationalism -- and they'll put us in mass graves to get it.


This is where I am at, more than a little concerned with what the results portend.

People like the status quo SLIGHTLY better than pure fascism and an end to the representative government.
 
asmodeus224
2022-11-10 6:23:34 AM  

misanthropicsob: "Outperformed expectations" = beat the lowered expectations by shiatty polls.

Remember when Fark was greening Michael Moore statements of a Democratic blowout? Democrats underperformed his expectations.


In the 22 midterm elections from 1934 -2018, the President's party has averaged a loss of 28 House seats and four Senate seats

So Biden beat the historical trend.  That is what most people are talking about, not Michael Moore's prediction or shiatty polls.

Cry moar loser
 
Weaver95
2022-11-10 6:27:07 AM  

sinner4ever: It really is something watching Dems celebrate victory because they didn't lose as badly as they thought they would.
This was winnable. Red states were passing a minimum wage increase. Progressive policy is popular. Instead ,now they get another excuse to not pass anything (except corporate hand-outs) and the Parliamentarian can go into hibernation.


It amuses me that you are still this mad about the Dems winning.
 
asmodeus224
2022-11-10 6:28:10 AM  

Shaggy_C: Love the knee jerk reaction here. How about you read the article before spouting off about how the AP is Fox News? Here it is, wasn't hard to find: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-government-and-politics-8ed56d6b86fa17a407a49d625c75de3f

The big takeaway was that the exit polls showed a lot of voter dissatisfaction with Biden personally even if the voters were picking Democrats.

[Fark user image 425x450]

Check out that mental capacity question...ouch.


Oh. hey, a poll.  And Exit poll.  Hey everybody, the smartest guy ever posted a shiatty exit poll.

I thought they stopped doing those cuz they were so wildly unreliable?
 
sinner4ever
2022-11-10 6:28:49 AM  

Weaver95: sinner4ever: It really is something watching Dems celebrate victory because they didn't lose as badly as they thought they would.
This was winnable. Red states were passing a minimum wage increase. Progressive policy is popular. Instead ,now they get another excuse to not pass anything (except corporate hand-outs) and the Parliamentarian can go into hibernation.

It amuses me that you are still this mad about the Dems winning.


I'm happy. More progressives won and the only Senate seat that the Democrats won was a progressive. There is very good movement in recent elections towards the actual left.
 
sinner4ever
2022-11-10 6:30:39 AM  
non-incumbent
 
Roastbeast Sammich
2022-11-10 6:32:31 AM  

hubiestubert: Here's the thing: young people showed up this go around. Heck, they elected a 25 year old to the US Congress. They're gonna keep showing up, and in the meantime, the GOP base is dying off.

If the GOP is smart, they're going to detach from the Crazy Train, and try something else. But, I don't think that there's a lot of hope for that. The rubes still have cash, and these are folks who used to grazing on their constituents, so it's only going to come about when they consistently lose.

For the party that claims that it's about a sure and steady hand, they have invested a lot into radicals who hate the very concept of governance. Oddly enough, even their 'leaders' don't exactly inspire a lot of confidence. And they're gonna keep 'investing' in them, until they don't have any more money to suckle from.


Back in 2012, after they were gobsmacked after how Romney had lost big time, they did an internal investigation and the report-- "autopsy" it was called-- made a number of sensible recommendations about how the party has to change to meet the needs of younger, more racially-diverse groups of voters.

Then they pitched the sensible nonsense into the shredder and decided that election-tampering and reaching out to Unibomber shack-dwellers, gun packing morons and the Infowars crowd was the way to go.

For the next election, they'll do focused direct-mail pitches out to schizophrenics in mental wards and San Quentin Aryan gangs while throwing firebombs at local Democratic party offices.
 
Olthoi
2022-11-10 6:34:01 AM  

misanthropicsob: "Outperformed expectations" = beat the lowered expectations by shiatty polls.

Remember when Fark was greening Michael Moore statements of a Democratic blowout? Democrats underperformed his expectations.


Moore thought we would keep the house and senate.
 
Olthoi
2022-11-10 6:35:40 AM  

DarnoKonrad: we could have done better.  And "not losing everything" doesn't exactly make me feel optimistic for the future.


Half the voters in this nation are enemies to liberal democratic pluralism.  They want illiberal autocratic nationalism -- and they'll put us in mass graves to get it.


This
 
qorkfiend
2022-11-10 6:37:40 AM  

DarnoKonrad: we could have done better.  And "not losing everything" doesn't exactly make me feel optimistic for the future.


Half the voters in this nation are enemies to liberal democratic pluralism.  They want illiberal autocratic nationalism -- and they'll put us in mass graves to get it.


No one has suggested otherwise.

At the same time, five days ago a very large number of people thought that "losing everything" was a guaranteed outcome.
 
sinner4ever
2022-11-10 6:39:31 AM  

Olthoi: misanthropicsob: "Outperformed expectations" = beat the lowered expectations by shiatty polls.

Remember when Fark was greening Michael Moore statements of a Democratic blowout? Democrats underperformed his expectations.

Moore thought we would keep the house and senate.


Rich people don't understand regular people's problems.
Dems took a bullet but it could have been a cannonball hence the celebration by moderates. The ceding of the economy to Republicans was idiotic. Instead of advertising how Republicans planned to fix the economy in their own words the Dems just pretended that price gouging wasn't really happening. That cost many votes. Inaction for the last two years on promised policy cost more. Dems didn't need to lose to fascists at all, they chose to.
John Fetterman ran on economic policy and he flipped a seat.
 
Barricaded Gunman
2022-11-10 6:41:56 AM  

chucknasty: cruz drinking a white claw in interview. stay classy. are you a junior high school girl? who drinks the claw?


He's signaling to the Oath Boys that he's one of them. Didn't that other Latino white supremacist always have a tactical White Claw in his army surplus vest?
 
Olthoi
2022-11-10 6:45:11 AM  

sinner4ever: Olthoi: misanthropicsob: "Outperformed expectations" = beat the lowered expectations by shiatty polls.

Remember when Fark was greening Michael Moore statements of a Democratic blowout? Democrats underperformed his expectations.

Moore thought we would keep the house and senate.

Rich people don't understand regular people's problems.
Dems took a bullet but it could have been a cannonball hence the celebration by moderates. The ceding of the economy to Republicans was idiotic. Instead of advertising how Republicans planned to fix the economy in their own words the Dems just pretended that price gouging wasn't really happening. That cost many votes. Inaction for the last two years on promised policy cost more. Dems didn't need to lose to fascists at all, they chose to.
John Fetterman ran on economic policy and he flipped a seat.


I would have liked to see dems talk more about corporate price gouging to counter the inflation narrative the GOP is pushing.
 
Barricaded Gunman
2022-11-10 6:45:58 AM  

Aussie_As: Given how many times I've previously written Trump off only to see him dominating the GQP days or weeks later, is this the one or are we at last getting close to the point where he is actually seen as yesterday's guy?


Ugly old Daddy Rupert has never taken a steamer on Trump's head the way he did with this headline and cartoon, which is promising.

Anything anyone can do to reduce Trump's image in the eyes of his loser brigade or make him stroke out in rage is fine with me.
 
Shamwow
2022-11-10 6:49:30 AM  

Shaggy_C: Love the knee jerk reaction here. How about you read the article before spouting off about how the AP is Fox News? Here it is, wasn't hard to find: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-government-and-politics-8ed56d6b86fa17a407a49d625c75de3f

The big takeaway was that the exit polls showed a lot of voter dissatisfaction with Biden personally even if the voters were picking Democrats.

[Fark user image 425x450]

Check out that mental capacity question...ouch.


Right wing propaganda is effective. It has been able to frame Biden they way Trump is in reality. Having paid attention to politics since Reagan it has been scary to watch as Republican conservatism became stronger America became weaker. As republican partisan media became more prevalent spreading misinformation and lies the republican base became more radicalized and is now committing insurrections and maiming/killing people.

Foreign powers now know the easiest way to take down America is to support republicans. The "American First" party is operating as a foreign asset working against American interests. They are helping a man that owes allegiance to a money lender so he can pretend to be rich.

But hey, you have your right wing troll poll to be happy about.
 
heavymetal
2022-11-10 6:54:54 AM  
I think the disconnect is how the right and left view their elected officials, and the right cannot comprehend anyone viewing elected officials any other way than the do. The political right base their politics on cults of personalities rather that policy, while the left does the opposite. After all their assaults on Joe Biden, Hunter accusations, and other character assassinations, their "red wave" failed to happen. Same with Nancy Pelosi. Nobody outside of their bubble sees Joe Biden as the monster the right tries to paint him as, nor do they have a deep seeded hatred of Nancy Pelosi as those in the right wing bubble have.

Trump on the other hand, nobody outside the right wing bubble cares about him, and many cannot stand him. On Tuesday America shown that they reject Trump and Trumpism. If it were not for gerrymandering, the Republicans would not have even been competitive. The people who got overly giddy over Trump and Trumpism were rejected for the most part too.

The article is written by those who cannot understand that the left is not sniffing Biden's jock like they sniff Trumps. Since they do not understand that Biden is just the guy currently pushing the agenda, but is not the agenda; since Trump basically is the right wing agenda. So much it had become the GOP platform last POTUS election. That is what the American people rejected Tuesday night. It was not "Biden v Trump", it was "the American People v Trump".
 
NathanAllen
2022-11-10 6:55:04 AM  
Don't make him angry, you wouldn't like him when he's angry.
 
sinner4ever
2022-11-10 6:58:29 AM  
Matt Gaetz just said that they are going to fight inflation by taking away Medicaid and taking away unemployment thereby forcing people into low wage jobs. He said that would raise wages (with a straight face)
Rick Scott told everyone that Republicans are going to kill Social Security and Medicare and that the poor need new taxes.

Will Democrats run these quotes to death during the Warnock race?  If history is any guide, the answer is no. They sure as heck didn't bother during the mid-terms.
 
hubiestubert [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-11-10 7:06:04 AM  

Weaver95: sinner4ever: It really is something watching Dems celebrate victory because they didn't lose as badly as they thought they would.
This was winnable. Red states were passing a minimum wage increase. Progressive policy is popular. Instead ,now they get another excuse to not pass anything (except corporate hand-outs) and the Parliamentarian can go into hibernation.

It amuses me that you are still this mad about the Dems winning.


Hey, cut him some slack. They were assured of a Red Wave that would secure this country from a 1000 Years of Darkness. At this point, they have to console themselves that they made some advances, but they're still gonna have to work with Democrats. 

"They said it was OUR time!"

/I think that a new strategy will focus on finally turning Manchin, Sinema and Tulsi into declaring as Republicans, as opposed to just having them as agents of chaos.
 
Mr. Shabooboo
2022-11-10 7:07:06 AM  
DISARRAY!!!
 
lordjupiter
2022-11-10 7:13:10 AM  
All the Eeyores and Berners who relentlessly talked shiat about people saying "vote harder" know exactly what they need to do with their heads today.
 
sinner4ever
2022-11-10 7:17:48 AM  

lordjupiter: All the Eeyores and Berners who relentlessly talked shiat about people saying "vote harder" know exactly what they need to do with their heads today.


Moderates the last two years- "Vote harder and get two more Democratic Senators to outvote our other two moderate Democratic Senators

Moderates today celebrate losing the House and that we maybe have 50 Dems in the Senate.
 
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