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(New Musical Express)   Because Marvel has a strict "No shirt, No shoes, no movie policy?"   (nme.com) divider line
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2022-11-05 1:49:07 AM  
So me and Quentin Tarantino will make the same number of Marvel movies in our lives. I wonder what else we have in common.
 
2022-11-05 2:02:59 AM  
Lemme summarize: "Shiat's for plebes - *I* am an auteur!"
 
2022-11-05 2:05:20 AM  
has literally anybody been asking for it?
 
2022-11-05 2:13:49 AM  
Bellatrix and Django both displayed superhuman abilities, at least Black Widow and Hawkeye levels.
 
2022-11-05 2:14:37 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Bellatrix and Django both displayed superhuman abilities, at least Black Widow and Hawkeye levels.


*Beatrix
 
2022-11-05 2:21:26 AM  
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2022-11-05 2:44:33 AM  

replacementcool: has literally anybody been asking for it?


No. Nothing about his style would work in the MCU. He'd fail even worse than Brannagh did.
 
2022-11-05 2:46:40 AM  

clkeagle: replacementcool: has literally anybody been asking for it?

No. Nothing about his style would work in the MCU. He'd fail even worse than Brannagh did.


It miiiight work for Deadpool, but Deadpool is already filled. And only if Kill Bill was just Deadpool instead.
 
2022-11-05 2:52:14 AM  

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I'll accept immunity to STDs as a superpower.
 
2022-11-05 3:24:29 AM  
There was a scene in an X Men movie where Magneto and that bald dude were playing chess in Magneto's cell I think. Anyway, a scene like that would kick ass if Tarantino wrote and directed it. It'd be the only MCU movie where the conversations were the set pieces instead of the action scenes. It's have to be R rated though, which so far hasn't been done in an MCU movie.
 
2022-11-05 3:24:55 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: clkeagle: replacementcool: has literally anybody been asking for it?

No. Nothing about his style would work in the MCU. He'd fail even worse than Brannagh did.

It miiiight work for Deadpool, but Deadpool is already filled. And only if Kill Bill was just Deadpool instead.


he'd just have deadpool saying the n-word because he's so edgy and cool.
 
2022-11-05 5:03:21 AM  
He's a threat to corporate grind out one after another garbage that been released. Who couldn't stand in front of a green screen and make millions from rubes. He'd have to write a story line which hasn't been done in yrs.
 
2022-11-05 5:27:08 AM  
He also explains why modern filmmakers "can't wait for the day" the superhero genre dies out

Probably for the same reasons the guy perpetually in the #2 spot "can't wait for the day" the guy in the #1 spot gets hiat by a train.
 
2022-11-05 5:29:31 AM  
I can't actually say I've watched a Tarantino film.

Not because I'm avoiding him on purpose.  I think he has his favorite genres, and they're not the same as mine.
 
2022-11-05 5:50:51 AM  
Tarantino also hasn't been asked to direct any wildlife documentaries, teen rom-coms, or sports biopics.  Why do you suppose that is, Quentin?  Are you anxious for those genres to die just like studio musicals?  The thing is, nobody asked him because his style isn't conducive to Marvel comics movies as Feige sees them right now.  I'm sure there are some Indie comics his style would fit perfectly and he should get right on that.  Because apparently he's taking not being asked to direct a Marvel movie personally, so badly in fact that he's taking it out on a genre.

A genre is just an arbitrary classification, dude, it's not a Hollywood conspiracy to shut you out.  And Marvel Comics isn't even really a genre, although "comics movies" might be a subset of the Action Movie genre.  He really does sound like he's just got a bad case of sour grapes that he's not involved.  "Well, I didn't want to hang out with you guys anyway.  I'm better than that!"
 
2022-11-05 6:17:07 AM  
He was biatching by comparing superhero movies to musicals, but musicals still make billions of dollars at the box office.  They just switched from live action to animated, but they are still undeniably film musicals.

The better genre comparison might be Westerns, which were once guaranteed money makers in Hollywood but have now been out of favor for decades.
 
2022-11-05 6:49:27 AM  

clkeagle: replacementcool: has literally anybody been asking for it?

No. Nothing about his style would work in the MCU. He'd fail even worse than Brannagh did.


"Thor" was the worst MCU movies, and the better acted one.
 
2022-11-05 6:55:19 AM  
 On short, no shoes, no assholes
 
2022-11-05 6:58:19 AM  
Marvel doesn't use the n-word?
 
2022-11-05 7:01:36 AM  

Birnone: There was a scene in an X Men movie where Magneto and that bald dude were playing chess in Magneto's cell I think. Anyway, a scene like that would kick ass if Tarantino wrote and directed it. It'd be the only MCU movie where the conversations were the set pieces instead of the action scenes. It's have to be R rated though, which so far hasn't been done in an MCU movie.


saying f@#$ every five seconds isn't really groundbreaking
 
2022-11-05 7:03:37 AM  

ReaverZ: Birnone: There was a scene in an X Men movie where Magneto and that bald dude were playing chess in Magneto's cell I think. Anyway, a scene like that would kick ass if Tarantino wrote and directed it. It'd be the only MCU movie where the conversations were the set pieces instead of the action scenes. It's have to be R rated though, which so far hasn't been done in an MCU movie.

saying f@#$ every five seconds isn't really groundbreaking


Well, they could say it more often, but they have to leave room for the n-word.
 
2022-11-05 7:42:23 AM  
Don't most of the Marvel women were shoes with their uniforms?
 
2022-11-05 7:52:36 AM  
Kill Bill pretty much was a comic book movie.
 
2022-11-05 8:40:32 AM  
It's been fun to watch all the pretentious old man filmmakers whine about super hero movies because they see them making loads of cash. I've gotten more enjoyment from even the worst mcu movies than I ever have from a Tarantino dialog fest that just rips off scenes from older, better movies.
 
2022-11-05 9:03:48 AM  
Hasn't he set a maximum film limit for himself?
Also, him, Scorcese and Coppola need to seriously STFU about more successful projects. Put out good material and people will go watch. It's hilarious to see the dude who sabotaged his own film by casting his talentless daughter on his big budget franchise whining about franchises.
 
2022-11-05 9:04:32 AM  
i watch whatever kind of movie so i'm not offended when somebody talks shiat about some genre they don't like
 
2022-11-05 9:43:32 AM  
FTFA: He also explains why modern filmmakers "can't wait for the day" the superhero genre dies out

This is how I feel. I'm glad everyone else on earth loves these movies, and I'm glad you're all having a good time, but just like the musicals of the 1950s or a loud party in an upstairs apartment I can't wait for it to be over.

It's been surreal as an outsider to watch how a couple of decent superhero movies several years ago have metastasized into the all-consuming entertainment juggernaut that is the MARVEL COMIC UNIVERSE.

Marvel has been telling stories in comics for 85 years, so there's a lot of source material, and (again, to an outsider like me) it feels as if every character they've ever created gets a movie, and every movie gets a sequel, and if they don't get a movie and a sequel they get a 'limited run' television series full of obscure references and easter eggs that get breathlessly analyzed to death in all the entertainment reporting. I get how if you're really into these movies it doesn't seem like there's too much of it. But try to imagine the world if movie makers had latched onto some other genre 20 years ago instead of comics.

At first you might not even notice that 80% of all movies being made were westerns, but after a few years of nothing but westerns you'd get pretty goddamn tired of THE ROY ROGERS UNIVERSE taking up all the air in the entertainment room. Eventually there'd be a huge conglomeration of a movie featuring Roy Rogers, Tom Mix, and the Man with No Name teaming up to defeat some super villain. After that movie, the top 3 or 4 cowboys in it would each get their own movie, complete with origin story, love interest and redemption arc, and the most popular one of those would get a sequel, too. At the end of one of those movies, you'd be treated to a post-credits stinger where some previously unseen character slowly straps on a 6-shooter for the first time and puts on a white Stetson before walking silently out the door, and the entertainment press would lose their collective sh*t for months wondering "OMG! Is that John Reid? Are we seeing the introduction of the Lone Ranger?!"

I'm not "Stop liking what I don't like." I understand that my personal taste doesn't dictate popular entertainment, and I liked a few of the Marvel movies... just not as much as everyone else, apparently. I'm patiently waiting for superhero films to go the way of the the 3D craze of the 50s and the disaster films of the 70s. I know it will happen, but if feels like it's taking forever.
 
2022-11-05 9:44:11 AM  
Marvel should make a public offer to him for a 1970s NYC set Punisher or Luke Cage/Heroes for Hire project and then cancel it after he immediately jumps at the opportunity.
 
2022-11-05 9:45:34 AM  

ModernPrimitive01: It's been fun to watch all the pretentious old man filmmakers whine about super hero movies because they see them making loads of cash. I've gotten more enjoyment from even the worst mcu movies than I ever have from a Tarantino dialog fest that just rips off scenes from older, better movies.


'The worst MCU movie is better than any Tarantino movie,' and the problem you have have with Tarantino movies is that there's too much dialogue. That's where you are with this?
 
2022-11-05 9:47:36 AM  

Alphax: I can't actually say I've watched a Tarantino film.

Not because I'm avoiding him on purpose.  I think he has his favorite genres, and they're not the same as mine.


They're actually entertaining movies for the most part, but they're basically strings of obscenities punctuated with bloody gunplay.

Like that's never been done before.

And before you tell me about the great dialogue, literally no one in the history of ever has talked like a Tarantino character.
 
2022-11-05 9:48:44 AM  

Dhusk: He was biatching by comparing superhero movies to musicals, but musicals still make billions of dollars at the box office.  They just switched from live action to animated, but they are still undeniably film musicals.

The better genre comparison might be Westerns, which were once guaranteed money makers in Hollywood but have now been out of favor for decades.


La la land and west side story might disagree with you there.
 
2022-11-05 9:49:53 AM  

padraig: clkeagle: replacementcool: has literally anybody been asking for it?

No. Nothing about his style would work in the MCU. He'd fail even worse than Brannagh did.

"Thor" was the worst MCU movies, and the better acted one.


Thor was worse than The Dark World?  Worse than Love and Thunder?
 
2022-11-05 10:07:17 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: Kill Bill pretty much was a comic book movie.


Yeah, and it was a movie he had control over. He didn't need to appease IP rights holders, the boards of Disney, armies of internet man-children that build decades of mythos into their personalities, etc

Tarantino is talking about the behind the scenes aspects of dealing with an existing IP and stating he doesn't need money that bad to deal with a corporate atmosphere he doesn't get along with well.

It's like asking an established chef why he doesn't want to work with a major fast food chain. Believe it or not, some people aren't out to make as much money as possible if they have to conform their creativity to a corporate brand.

I enjoy a big mac once in a while but I'm don't take insults about McDonald's as a personal attack.
 
2022-11-05 10:23:32 AM  
Tarantino has filmed "only" genre/pulp films, the only difference between his slate of films and Marvel's is that his genres were unfashionable at the time he filmed them.  Blaxploitation, Westerns, Kung-fu Drive-in Theater, Heist pulp, World War pulp, Revenge pulp... I mean at this point the only farking thing he hasn't ironically tried to ressurect is Captain Blood-style pirate pulp.  He would have done Boy's Adventure pulp as well, but Spielberg already had that market cornered.

If Tarantino were being true to his muse, he'd have done at least one gonzo musical by now, and I'd argue against his self-professed hate for musicals, BECAUSE EVERY FILM OF HIS IS SCORED LIKE A MUSICAL, PRACTICALLY.  Fark that guy, he loves musical-film more than anyone in film history besides Busby Berkeley.
 
2022-11-05 10:34:37 AM  

Bot v2.38beta: I enjoy a big mac once in a while but I'm don't take insults about McDonald's as a personal attack


This.  The best MCU films are fun and entertaining.  They're also not the best movies to watch for audiences who crave a bit more psychological/emotional depth in their screen stories.

Tarantino isn't the best filmmaker to hold up as a paragon of psychological and emotional depth, but I understand the point he's making.
 
2022-11-05 10:35:00 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Lemme summarize: "Shiat's for plebes - *I* am an auteur!"


Shocking that Marvel has an under appreciation for his non-stop F bombs and flagrant use of the N word.

Tarantino has made some good films, but he's often as edgelord as Musk.
 
2022-11-05 10:36:43 AM  

Great_Milenko: padraig: clkeagle: replacementcool: has literally anybody been asking for it?

No. Nothing about his style would work in the MCU. He'd fail even worse than Brannagh did.

"Thor" was the worst MCU movies, and the better acted one.

Thor was worse than The Dark World?  Worse than Love and Thunder?


Well, maybe not, but at the time and for a while, I certainly was.
 
2022-11-05 10:43:59 AM  
It sounds like he's more concerned about making movies by committee.  The MCU is basically a TV series that has continuity and a brand image, so directors and screenwriters can't just do anything they want with them.
 
2022-11-05 10:48:31 AM  

Xythero: It sounds like he's more concerned about making movies by committee.  The MCU is basically a TV series that has continuity and a brand image, so directors and screenwriters can't just do anything they want with them.


And Michael Feige is the showrunner.
 
2022-11-05 10:58:42 AM  

padraig: Xythero: It sounds like he's more concerned about making movies by committee.  The MCU is basically a TV series that has continuity and a brand image, so directors and screenwriters can't just do anything they want with them.

And Michael Feige is the showrunner.


Who is Michael Feige?

Is he related to Kevin somehow?
 
2022-11-05 11:06:35 AM  

houstondragon: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Lemme summarize: "Shiat's for plebes - *I* am an auteur!"

Shocking that Marvel has an under appreciation for his non-stop F bombs and flagrant use of the N word.

Tarantino has made some good films, but he's often as edgelord as Musk.


Could probably deal with current edgelord, but the main problem here is he's a '90's edgelord - still.  That don't work so much anymore
 
2022-11-05 11:09:18 AM  

padraig: clkeagle: replacementcool: has literally anybody been asking for it?

No. Nothing about his style would work in the MCU. He'd fail even worse than Brannagh did.

"Thor" was the worst MCU movies, and the better acted one.


I liked Thor (the 2nd one was bad) I thought they made a mistake casting Portman as Jane Foster. but overall it did a good job introducing or reintroducing the world to Thor and his world.
 
2022-11-05 11:20:49 AM  

Alphax: I can't actually say I've watched a Tarantino film.

Not because I'm avoiding him on purpose.  I think he has his favorite genres, and they're not the same as mine.


He's a fantastic filmmaker (albeit perhaps not to your taste), which, just like the idiotic uproar over Scorsese's comments a couple of years ago, makes this article another dumb manufactured controversy.

Marvel makes fantastic popular entertainment that is a load of fun and is among the few reasons these days to hit the theater instead of watching at home. I am a huge fan.

People like Tarantino and Scorsese make fantastic films that serve as a love letter to the language of cinema and to the great films of the past, while also pushing filmmaking forward. I am a huge fan.

Both of these things can be true at the same time.

I hate that entertainment media stokes the coals by pushing these divisions, and that we so often take the bait.

Tarantino isn't built for Marvel-style stuff, and Marvel isn't built for Tarantino-style filmmaking. Nothing wrong with either, and in my mind, nothing for us to debate (the royal "us," not you and me).
 
2022-11-05 11:27:35 AM  
Odysseus was a superhero. I don't think superhero stories are ever going away.
 
2022-11-05 11:33:19 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: At first you might not even notice that 80% of all movies being made were westerns, but after a few years of nothing but westerns you'd get pretty goddamn tired of THE ROY ROGERS UNIVERSE taking up all the air in the entertainment room.


They effectively did. Dude was in over 100 movies, plus a radio show that lasted almost a decade and a long running TV show. His appearances included recurring characters, similar themes repeated again and again, and so on. He pretty much just played himself that whole time. Guys like him and Gene Autry dominated popular entertainment for two+ decades. Westerns were the superhero movies of the day, and that lasted through the '30s, '40s, and '50s.

I totally get why people who aren't into it would be like, "Enough! Give me something else!"

But here's the thing: Never before in history have we had more choices when it comes to entertainment. There has never been a greater volume of movies and TV shows available to us.

Anyone who is sick of Marvel -- and though I'm a fan, I get and respect that feeling -- anyone who is sick of it has tons and tons and TONS of options to turn to. More than they could ever experience in a lifetime. We are swimming in an abundance of entertainment riches.

About the only place where those options are becoming slimmer are in the theater itself, and even there, well, I was at my local multiplex the other day and there were 8 or 10 non-Marvel movies playing.

Superhero stuff and Star Wars does suck the air out of the room when it comes to entertainment headlines, sure, but when it comes to options for us, the consumer?

There is sooooooo much out there, it's easy to ignore every last thing Marvel ever does, outside of seeing headlines and Twitter trending topics.
 
2022-11-05 11:39:31 AM  

baron von doodle: Odysseus Herakles was a superhero. I don't think superhero stories are ever going away.


FTFM; Odysseus was a "superhero" the same way Hawkeye is a "superhero."  He isn't.  Funnily enough, they were both tactically smart people who knew some arrow tricks.  Herakles could actually do the crazy shiat like throw a discuss over a neighboring island, kill a lion with his bear hands, lift an entire planet.

/Herakles, the OG case for "power-creep."
 
2022-11-05 12:02:13 PM  
The death of superhero movies isn't going to change the cinematic landscape, because the cinematic landscape is driven by monopolization. The mouse controls culture. End of story. The old studio heads could only wish for this level of control and consistent return on investment.
 
2022-11-05 12:18:29 PM  
Is it because they won't let him write a part for himself where he says the N word over and over?

Just kidding, I don't care.
 
2022-11-05 12:19:47 PM  
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2022-11-05 12:27:21 PM  

Bot v2.38beta: Copperbelly watersnake: Kill Bill pretty much was a comic book movie.

Yeah, and it was a movie he had control over. He didn't need to appease IP rights holders, the boards of Disney, armies of internet man-children that build decades of mythos into their personalities, etc

Tarantino is talking about the behind the scenes aspects of dealing with an existing IP and stating he doesn't need money that bad to deal with a corporate atmosphere he doesn't get along with well.

It's like asking an established chef why he doesn't want to work with a major fast food chain. Believe it or not, some people aren't out to make as much money as possible if they have to conform their creativity to a corporate brand.

I enjoy a big mac once in a while but I'm don't take insults about McDonald's as a personal attack.


I'm more of a royal with cheese guy
 
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