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(Law and Crime)   Founders of True the Vote are jailed for contempt of court for failing to turn over information to a voting tech company that is suing them for slander. But if you unscrew the statisticals you'll see that the judge was wrong and they are free to go   (lawandcrime.com) divider line
    More: Followup, United States, United States Marshals Service, Injunction, court order, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Gregg Phillips, Catherine Engelbrecht, basis of a court order  
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2303 clicks; posted to Politics » on 02 Nov 2022 at 1:41 PM (13 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-11-02 10:40:34 AM  
It's happening!!! The Biden/Soros 1984 Gazpachos are jailing Troo Conservative Patriots just for the crime of committing crimes!
 
2022-11-02 11:06:37 AM  
Obviously not politicians because they never go to jail for contempt. But low life regular citizens getting in trouble with the court, in you go buddy.
 
2022-11-02 12:02:02 PM  
Actions, Consequences
Consequences, meet Actions

Now we're locking the courtroom door until  it's all resolved...
 
2022-11-02 12:47:21 PM  
I thought that these were such fine Patriots, who had deep regard and supported the American legal system?
 
2022-11-02 1:17:49 PM  
Wow. They must be serious.
They knocked a couple of pawns off the board,
For a moment in time
 
2022-11-02 1:18:00 PM  
FTA: Two leaders of a conservative Texas group that spreads election-related conspiracy theories were put in jail by a federal judge on Monday for allegedly refusing to comply with a court order.

Splendid.

FTA: An additional minute order issued by the court later that same day noted that the two defendants would be held in the Joe Corley Detention Facility and charged "a rate of $85.61 a day." The fees Engelbrecht and Phillips owe must be paid in advance of their release from jail, the judge ruled.

Seeming much less cool that this practice is still allowed, although kinda snazzy that some conservative asshats also get to experience this aspect of the legal system.
 
2022-11-02 1:44:18 PM  
DON'T
PISS OFF
THE JUDGE
 
2022-11-02 1:45:48 PM  
Worth reading,this is about the hearing. this woman has been grifting for years in texas specially regarding voting rights.  They won't disclose a name to the court because there is no whistleblower. She's lying and has been.  i hope you trumpers go bankrupt from funding these dirtbags.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/29/texas-court-true-the-vote-contempt/
 
2022-11-02 1:46:13 PM  
I hope they rot in that county jail for years.
 
2022-11-02 1:46:38 PM  
Party of Law and Order just wants to really get in there and understand the system, by being constantly involved of the process of being on trial
 
2022-11-02 1:47:27 PM  
That judge's vote to jail them was obviously stolen!
 
2022-11-02 1:47:40 PM  
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it's like one of those 'actors without teeth' shoops
 
2022-11-02 1:49:42 PM  
Backgrounder by Jessica Huseman here:

Two leaders of True the Vote jailed by federal judge for contempt of court

VotebeatUSA is doing some good reporting out there.  Huseman covers Texas.  Jen Fifield is covering AZ and had good, ind-depth info on the Clean Elections USA idiots coordinating the drop box monitoring in Mesa and other places.

Of course, it helped that they gave her access to everything because they are idiots.

Jen Fifield  @JenAFifield

I filled out a web form for Clean Elections USA, the AZ drop box watchers accused of voter intimidation, expecting to get on an email list.

Imagine my surprise when I was given access to a discussion board & nationwide contact list w/ 4500+ names/emails.

Here's what I found:
 
2022-11-02 1:50:37 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's happening!!! The Biden/Soros 1984 Gazpachos are jailing Troo Conservative Patriots just for the crime of committing crimes!


I would have gotten away with it too if crime wasn't illegal.
 
2022-11-02 1:52:51 PM  
What evan happan to free speach?
 
2022-11-02 1:53:49 PM  

abb3w: FTA: Two leaders of a conservative Texas group that spreads election-related conspiracy theories were put in jail by a federal judge on Monday for allegedly refusing to comply with a court order.

Splendid.

FTA: An additional minute order issued by the court later that same day noted that the two defendants would be held in the Joe Corley Detention Facility and charged "a rate of $85.61 a day." The fees Engelbrecht and Phillips owe must be paid in advance of their release from jail, the judge ruled.

Seeming much less cool that this practice is still allowed, although kinda snazzy that some conservative asshats also get to experience this aspect of the legal system.


I don't mind that in cases of contempt. They have the ability to clear their contempt and not go to jail, but they choose not to.

If they choose to go to jail, they can pay for the costs of that choice.
 
2022-11-02 1:54:34 PM  

JudgeSmails: Worth reading,this is about the hearing. this woman has been grifting for years in texas specially regarding voting rights.  They won't disclose a name to the court because there is no whistleblower. She's lying and has been.  i hope you trumpers go bankrupt from funding these dirtbags.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/29/texas-court-true-the-vote-contempt/


Good....old school contempt charge.

You sit in jail until you comply with the order.
 
2022-11-02 1:56:06 PM  
She looks like a before picture of the excess plastic surgery cat lady
 
2022-11-02 1:56:13 PM  
That courtroom flag better not have good fringe!! Chekmateo, your dishonor.
 
2022-11-02 1:56:30 PM  
Or gold
 
2022-11-02 1:56:38 PM  
Imagine being put in jail until you release the name of the person that doesn't exist because you made them up.

Oh well. Anyways
 
2022-11-02 1:57:10 PM  
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2022-11-02 1:57:37 PM  
Now it's a race to see who cracks first.
 
2022-11-02 1:58:04 PM  
Uh, I'm pretty sure you harmonize statisticals.

What was that guy's name? Dean something. I wanted to find the out of focus pic but can't recall.
 
2022-11-02 1:58:37 PM  

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This guy likes the cut of your jib subby, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


There we go! That's the one
 
2022-11-02 1:59:04 PM  
Good.

If nothing else, I want to see the courts putting an end to people farking around with the actual courts.  If a judge tells you to disclose or remedy something, you farking do it.

/ Looking at you, Jones
// And these chucklefarks
/// You're next, you orange turd.
 
2022-11-02 2:01:00 PM  

abb3w: FTA: Two leaders of a conservative Texas group that spreads election-related conspiracy theories were put in jail by a federal judge on Monday for allegedly refusing to comply with a court order.

Splendid.

FTA: An additional minute order issued by the court later that same day noted that the two defendants would be held in the Joe Corley Detention Facility and charged "a rate of $85.61 a day." The fees Engelbrecht and Phillips owe must be paid in advance of their release from jail, the judge ruled.

Seeming much less cool that this practice is still allowed, although kinda snazzy that some conservative asshats also get to experience this aspect of the legal system.


There's probably already a GoFundMe campaign
 
2022-11-02 2:03:21 PM  
Simpler solution: instruct the jury that they should presume the defendants had no source
 
2022-11-02 2:05:28 PM  
The guy is creepy enough in his dimly lit certainty,but she's down right evil looking. No wonder why she's a fringe right Tru teh Vote activist.
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Haven't the GQP faithful been schooled on what the Devil may actually look like? Have they never watched The101 Dalmatians? She's right out of a Stephen King screen play directed by David Cronenburg, or better yet, Rob Zombie
 
2022-11-02 2:09:57 PM  
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If you harmonize the statistical quirks, we WON the Dominion War!
 
2022-11-02 2:12:32 PM  

abb3w: FTA: Two leaders of a conservative Texas group that spreads election-related conspiracy theories were put in jail by a federal judge on Monday for allegedly refusing to comply with a court order.

Splendid.

FTA: An additional minute order issued by the court later that same day noted that the two defendants would be held in the Joe Corley Detention Facility and charged "a rate of $85.61 a day." The fees Engelbrecht and Phillips owe must be paid in advance of their release from jail, the judge ruled.

Seeming much less cool that this practice is still allowed, although kinda snazzy that some conservative asshats also get to experience this aspect of the legal system.


Yeah, I'm not a big fan of charging inmates as if they're staying in a hotel, but in cases like this, where the inmates hold the keys to their own cell, I'm a lot less troubled by it.
 
2022-11-02 2:12:49 PM  

pueblonative: Simpler solution: instruct the jury that they should presume the defendants had no source


This isn't just a discovery motion that an adverse inference solves everything.

This is about returning the data they stole (and knowing exactly what was stolen is quite valuable) and providing the source/method of stealing the data.
 
2022-11-02 2:21:44 PM  

Unemployedingreenland: in cases like this, where the inmates hold the keys to their own cell


17 C.J.S. Contempt sec. 93, at 268-69 (1963), per People v. Mowery, 452 NE 2d 363:
"If imprisonment is imposed for civil contempt it must ordinarily be coercive or remedial in nature rather than punitive. Imprisonment for civil contempt usually is not for a definite term, but the party in contempt stands committed unless and until he performs the affirmative act required by the order of the court. It is for this reason that in civil contempt it is stated that the contemnor carries the key of his prison in his pocket."
 
2022-11-02 2:24:10 PM  
From my link above:

In podcasts and interviews, Phillips described a dramatic night in early 2021 in a Dallas hotel, where a man he later identified as Mike Hasson revealed what True the Vote has said was hard evidence of Konnech's alleged influence on the 2020 election.

The involvement of a third man was unknown until a Thursday hearing, when Konnech's attorney's pressed Phillips for additional information about what Phillips claimed was an hours-long Konnech research session in Dallas that night. On the stand, Phillips revealed that another "analyst" was present in the room when Hasson allegedly offered evidence he'd uncovered about Konnech, showing the company had stored American poll worker data on a server in China. Neither he nor Engelbrecht would release the third man's name, saying he was in danger from "drug cartels."

While True the Vote's former attorney on the matter, Brock Akers, released Hasson's name after U.S. District Judge Kenneth Hoyt demanded he do so earlier in the month, True the Vote's new legal team has chosen a different path. Akers has not  appeared in court since providing Hasson's name. Last week, Engelbrecht and Phillips were represented by Michael Wynne, a different Houston attorney, who told the court Akers was on vacation "on the Mediterranean" and would be withdrawing from the case. Wynne said Akers remained away, on a cruise, on Monday morning.
 
2022-11-02 2:27:41 PM  

Herbie555: Good.

If nothing else, I want to see the courts putting an end to people farking around with the actual courts.  If a judge tells you to disclose or remedy something, you farking do it.

/ Looking at you, Jones
// And these chucklefarks
/// You're next, you orange turd.


Yeah, sure seems like the next step after "defendants refused to turn over required documents" is to take them by force. Ransack their houses and offices and take all of their digital devices. Oh, does that suck for you? Should have thought about that before you flagrantly defied a court of law.
 
2022-11-02 2:32:47 PM  
Englebrecht said in a statement provided to Law&Crime. "As a result, we will be held in jail until we agree to give up the name of a person we believe was not covered under the terms of the judge's TRO. We ask that you keep us in your prayers.

I'm wondering how many hours will she be in jail before she changes her mind.
 
2022-11-02 2:40:32 PM  
If there's any constant in this life, it's that U.S. District Court judges really don't like it when people disregard their orders.
 
2022-11-02 2:43:47 PM  
I looked at the comments, Ray....
 
2022-11-02 2:49:21 PM  

BoothbyTCD: I looked at the comments, Ray....


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2022-11-02 2:52:06 PM  

Turbogod: Englebrecht said in a statement provided to Law&Crime. "As a result, we will be held in jail until we agree to give up the name of a person we believe was not covered under the terms of the judge's TRO. We ask that you keep us in your prayers.

I'm wondering how many hours will she be in jail before she changes her mind.


Englebrecht did not kill herself

Just getting that out of the way...
 
2022-11-02 2:57:48 PM  

kmgenesis23: BoothbyTCD: I looked at the comments, Ray....

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It was a bad idea. Don't repeat my mistakes.
 
2022-11-02 3:02:14 PM  

Gyrfalcon: DON'T
PISS OFF
THE JUDGE


Piss off?

Oh dear. I've made quite the error.
 
2022-11-02 3:06:44 PM  

holdmybones: Uh, I'm pretty sure you harmonize statisticals.

What was that guy's name? Dean something. I wanted to find the out of focus pic but can't recall.


I'm pretty sure in this case they're screwed.
 
2022-11-02 3:10:27 PM  
The judge here is off his rocker.

Trumpists never have to comply with subpoenas or other court orders.  Trump said so.
 
2022-11-02 3:14:13 PM  
No, the judge doesn't understand.  They turned over every shred of evidence they had - which was none at all.
 
2022-11-02 3:16:17 PM  
Funny how the article fails to mention that True the Vote was correct about the voter information being stored on a server in China. Konnech's CEO has been arrested for doing exactly what he was accused of.
 
2022-11-02 3:19:40 PM  
The 2020s for me: long periods of fear and loathing and boredom, with the occasional schadenfreude crumpet like this.

Thanks, Catherine E and assorted True The Vote idiot scammers and scoundrels! Your self-inflicted suffering has brightened my gloom momentarily.

She's been spouting BS since about 2012, and it has FINALLY caught up to her.
I hope she dithers in jail for months then admits she made up the 3rd man and goes down hard for federal perjury.
 
2022-11-02 3:23:54 PM  
Our mystery investigator's name is Otto Myass.

True the Vote pulled their evidence from Otto Myass.
 
2022-11-02 3:32:37 PM  

UvalDeez Nuts: Funny how the article fails to mention that True the Vote was correct about the voter information being stored on a server in China. Konnech's CEO has been arrested for doing exactly what he was accused of.


Uh, no. The information moved to the Chinese servers was on poll workers, not voters.  Basically he was trying to toss some business to his buddy's hosting service even though he was required to store the data on US servers. 

I mean, he should be prosecuted and all, it was blatant breach of a specific clause in the contract and a huge security violation, but it's not at all like he uploaded a database of voter info to the Chinese government.
 
2022-11-02 3:45:49 PM  

UvalDeez Nuts: Funny how the article fails to mention that True the Vote was correct about the voter information being stored on a server in China. Konnech's CEO has been arrested for doing exactly what he was accused of.


False, and that wouldn't help these crooks in any case.
 
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