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Private_Citizen [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-30 10:07:40 AM  
First the voting rights act, then Abortion rights, then affirmative action.
I figure the next key items to fall will be (not necessarily in this order);
-the right for gays to get married (Obergefell)
-laws against discriminating against citizens based on gender/sex (Reed)
-the right of people to marry, irrespective of race (no interracial marriage) (Loving)
-state funded public defenders (legal representation is for the Rich) (Gideon)
-bans of pubic schools segregated by race or gender (Brown)
-automatic citizenship for being born on American soil (they will strip citizenship from people who can't prove a lineage back to certified US Citizens (US v Wong Kim)

I'm sure I missed some, but even with just those, the USA is starting to barely resemble the country I grew up in.
 
schezar [TotalFark]
2022-10-30 10:22:32 AM  
The Supreme Court is wholly illegitimate at this point.

Republicans packed it with nutjobs and partisan hacks. It's over.
 
SVC_conservative [TotalFark]
2022-10-30 10:33:50 AM  

schezar: The Supreme Court is wholly illegitimate at this point.

Republicans packed it with nutjobs and partisan hacks. It's over.


Alito is the new "It's Still Legitimate To Me" meme
 
koder [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-30 11:46:25 AM  
I mean we can just ignore them.  The civilized states will be fine and the shiat tier ones will keep degenerating.  It's what they want, it seems.
 
AsparagusFTW
2022-10-30 12:19:20 PM  
College admissions should be based on grades.
 
Private_Citizen [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-30 12:25:24 PM  

koder: I mean we can just ignore them.  The civilized states will be fine and the shiat tier ones will keep degenerating.  It's what they want, it seems.


I don't think that's the way it's going to go. Even in California or Illinois, two of the most liberal states, they have right-wingers - and they are just Itchingto literally make a federal case out of their inability to discriminate or treat others like second class citizens.

The GQP has come this far because they are willing to do things the Democrats won't - they will lie, cheat, and steal - and no sense of shame, tradition, honor, or fear of hypocrisy will stop them. They will gleefully rule against Democrats for doing a tenth of what the GQP does, and then double down on their behavior.

This will not stop until Democrats are willing to fight just as hard, and just as dirty.
It's Past time to pack the court. Do it for the sake of America, before there's no America left.
 
aaronx [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-30 1:11:37 PM  

AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.


No, because the opportunities to get good grades are not distributed fairly.
 
Testiclaw
2022-10-30 1:37:45 PM  

aaronx: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

No, because the opportunities to get good grades are not distributed fairly.


Bingo
 
gilgigamesh
2022-10-30 1:39:12 PM  

AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.


Why?
 
Telephone Sanitizer Second Class
2022-10-30 1:40:50 PM  
Actually the supreme court is going to eliminate affirmative action in order to save minorities from crippling student loan debt so this is really a good thing.

/tomorrow's NYT op-ed probably
 
iheartscotch
2022-10-30 1:41:10 PM  

AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.


Fun Fact: Meritocracy is complete bull shiat. You'll just get a bunch of inbred honkies who's daddy went there.

Plus...not all schools get the same funding, despite that being illegal. Not to mention the lengths that schools will go to to ensure that their sportsball team can play.
 
Jack Sabbath
2022-10-30 1:41:10 PM  
Look at the flood of n-words, gay bashing & other bigotry since Musk took the locks of Twitter.

In no way is this country mature enough to not need some kind of way to ensure fair treatment of minorities in the public square.

SCOTUS is run by lying bigots who see but don't care that programs like affirmative action are sadly still necessary.
 
soopey [OhFark]
2022-10-30 1:41:35 PM  
College is about learning new things and new people. A diverse student body makes for diverse experiences and better rounded people. Monocultures are a downward spiral and result in poor innovation and creative thoughts.
 
fsbilly
2022-10-30 1:41:41 PM  

AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.


You know how I know you don't understand how Affirmative Action works?
 
special20 [TotalFark]
2022-10-30 1:44:57 PM  

gilgigamesh: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

Why?


Maybe because Asparagus is Asian? /s

runs away
 
Weatherkiss [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-30 1:44:58 PM  
Refusing to expand the judiciary was totally worth it.
 
TomDooley
2022-10-30 1:45:24 PM  
College admissions should be based on how much your parents have contributed to the endowment.
 
iheartscotch
2022-10-30 1:47:48 PM  

aaronx: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

No, because the opportunities to get good grades are not distributed fairly.


There are people who believe that racism was fixed by the civil rights movement. I mean....if you'd never been into a red lined community...I could see how you might come to that conclusion.

School money follows white children. If your school doesn't have white children...it won't have any money
 
Someone Else's Alt [TotalFark]
2022-10-30 1:48:02 PM  
If the schools have any brains at all they will do it by lottery.

Pre-qualify a large pool of applicants with min standards and then use a lotto ping pong ball machine to select the next freshmen class.

This will also be challenged in the courts by white people as they will see it as treating them exactly the same as minorities, and that's racist!
 
red5ish [BareFark]
2022-10-30 1:48:23 PM  
Closing all the law schools for a while seems like an experiment that might yield a healthier society.
 
digmar
2022-10-30 1:48:25 PM  
Won't this just result in 90% Asian student bodies at the Ivy League schools?
 
WillofJ2
2022-10-30 1:49:34 PM  
What's interesting comments so far seem to tie opportunity more to income(school funding, donations, legacy, endowments, opportunity etc)than race, would seem that weight based on socioeconomic status would be better served
 
AteMyBrain
2022-10-30 1:51:09 PM  

iheartscotch: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

Fun Fact: Meritocracy is complete bull shiat. You'll just get a bunch of inbred honkies who's daddy went there.

Plus...not all schools get the same funding, despite that being illegal. Not to mention the lengths that schools will go to to ensure that their sportsball team can play.


Fun Fact: This post is nonsensical racist gibberish in relation to the statement it's responding to.
 
Screaming Candle
2022-10-30 1:51:54 PM  

TomDooley: College admissions should be based on how much your parents have contributed to the endowment.


This would be better than the BS we will have without any affirmative action. At least the corruption would be out in the open and accounted for. Also, this would be a hit to the "prestige" colleges grant alumni.

The unintended consequence is that corporate HR will continue to strive for a diverse workforce on the grounds that it bolsters the bottom line and there isn't squat the government can do about it. Given that, they will start hiring people without the 4 year paper, provided that person can do the job. Hopefully this will unwind the university scam and real places of academic achievement can get back to their primary function of TEACHING instead of being vocational gatekeepers.
 
Psylence
2022-10-30 1:55:36 PM  
So we can kick Thomas off the court?
 
Nuclear Monk
2022-10-30 1:56:03 PM  

AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.


Ok....now you have 5,000 applications for 2,000 spots, each of whom have a 4.0 grade point average.  Now what?
 
rzrwiresunrise
2022-10-30 1:56:29 PM  
Literally one of the whitest white-isms a white man ever whote.

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UNC_Samurai
2022-10-30 1:58:54 PM  
And the "you're talking income, not race" crowd seeps up from under the floorboards, willfully ignoring centuries of wealth denial, discrimination, and white flight.

Next, do the excuse about school choice with zero hint of irony!
 
Permanent Solutions For Permanent Problems
2022-10-30 1:59:04 PM  

iheartscotch: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

Fun Fact: Meritocracy is complete bull shiat. You'll just get a bunch of inbred honkies who's daddy went there.


Meritocracy is literally the opposite of Aristocracy.

/whether family members attended or donated to the university where you are attempting to gain admission should have zero bearing on your admission
 
jim32rr [recently expired TotalFark]
2022-10-30 1:59:08 PM  
Must be Sunday, right?

Kris Kristofferson - Sunday morning coming down (1970)
Youtube vbqGWTxwZEA
 
Lumbar Puncture
2022-10-30 1:59:21 PM  

AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.


Come on man, more people deserve to be shat on for being elitists because they attended liberal brainwashing institutions that make it so they don't understand real Americans than just those with the best grades.
 
special20 [TotalFark]
2022-10-30 1:59:49 PM  

red5ish: Closing all the law schools for a while seems like an experiment that might yield a healthier society.


No, that seems to have been a very bad move. Hitler said: "I shall not rest until every German sees that it is a shameful thing to be a lawyer."

You want that shiat to happen again?
 
gilgigamesh
2022-10-30 2:00:15 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: Literally one of the whitest white-isms a white man ever whote.

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That's right up there with claiming we don't need laws against murder, we just need people to stop murdering.

It's so facially dumb it is amazing someone actually said that in earnest.
 
the money is in the banana stand
2022-10-30 2:00:43 PM  

Nuclear Monk: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

Ok....now you have 5,000 applications for 2,000 spots, each of whom have a 4.0 grade point average.  Now what?


Whatever else you want to use as justification. You can still take students of color but cannot use it as specific criteria.
 
Avigdore
2022-10-30 2:01:38 PM  
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Bloody William
2022-10-30 2:02:13 PM  
Before they started attacking "wokeism," they attacked intersectionality. The study of how one's circumstances can come from a lot of different factors that affect each other, like being Black in America leading to statistical educational and economic disadvantages.

There's a reason conservatives hate academia and actually looking into complex causes and influences of things.
 
Bloody William
2022-10-30 2:03:15 PM  

Avigdore: [Fark user image 310x163]


Nothing happens in a vacuum, and you need to learn how to size your shiatty images.
 
Jesterling [TotalFark]
2022-10-30 2:03:27 PM  
Cut for Time: College Admissions - SNL
Youtube DFia7FhVmuM



/thought AA was nixed a couple years ago for some reason
 
SpectroBoy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-30 2:04:00 PM  
As long as minorities and women keep stubbornly voting republican they are going to keep getting farked.

"But muh taxes" is now a death pact.
 
MFK
2022-10-30 2:04:16 PM  

AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.


Wow

Can't get any more on-brand for a "progressive."
 
Blathering Idjut
2022-10-30 2:04:16 PM  
I say this all the time, but if we have reached the top of Martin Luther King Jr.'s mountaintop with a society that is truly colorblind it will not nor should not be up to the intellectual heirs of Bull Connor who saw no problem with Jim Crow in the first place to determine whether we've arrived.

If you didn't see a problem then you don't get to say there's not a problem now.

Also - fark Clarence Thomas as a perpetual abomination towards the memory of a truly great African American Justice in Thurgood Marshall.  He has never been 1/100th of the man Marshall was.
 
Webulator
2022-10-30 2:04:23 PM  
Maybe somebody could answer this for me. If the Supremes decide to eliminate affirmative action at universities, is there anything stopping universities from continuing to implement these policies voluntarily?
 
freidog
2022-10-30 2:05:07 PM  
For hundreds of years, these minority groups have been systematically discriminated against and are at - at no fault of their own - often at a disadvantage when applying to many schools if we do not permit this to be considered.
Sure, but Thomas is a supreme court justice and he's a Nig-  Negr - Colored? what do you mean I can't put that in an official opinion - S Alito probably shortly.
 
Unsung_Hero
2022-10-30 2:05:43 PM  

Testiclaw: aaronx: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

No, because the opportunities to get good grades are not distributed fairly.

Bingo


Which is a reason to address the fundamental issue, not to ignore it.

Throwing kids into college based on race doesn't do them any favors if they aren't prepared for it because you did nothing to ensure they had a decent high school education, or elementary before that, or just ensure they had adequate nutrition and healthcare while growing up.
 
Palined Parenthood [TotalFark]
2022-10-30 2:06:43 PM  

iheartscotch: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

Fun Fact: Meritocracy is complete bull shiat. You'll just get a bunch of inbred honkies who's daddy went there.

Plus...not all schools get the same funding, despite that being illegal. Not to mention the lengths that schools will go to to ensure that their sportsball team can play.


whose
 
JTtheCajun
2022-10-30 2:07:17 PM  

special20: red5ish: Closing all the law schools for a while seems like an experiment that might yield a healthier society.

No, that seems to have been a very bad move. Hitler said: "I shall not rest until every German sees that it is a shameful thing to be a lawyer."

You want that shiat to happen again?


If anything, I think we should have nearly everyone take some training in the law, especially rhetoric. Knowing how someone is trying to baffle you with bullshiat is helpful.

It'll also help dispel the notion that a lot of people have about how the law is what's right and wrong ethically.  And how the law can be manipulated to mean nearly anything if you use enough words, just like this SC used a witch prosecutor to overturn Roe.

I'm not sure how well society will fare once everyone realizes the law is essentially Calvinball, but at least we'll be honest about it.
 
Avigdore
2022-10-30 2:07:31 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: If the schools have any brains at all they will do it by lottery.


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fat_free [TotalFark]
2022-10-30 2:07:53 PM  
No. The very obvious and fixable solution is to be born a white person in the United States. Preferably male.
 
Bloody William
2022-10-30 2:08:44 PM  

MFK: AsparagusFTW: College admissions should be based on grades.

Wow

Can't get any more on-brand for a "progressive."


Is progressive bad too, now?

I looked up one day and suddenly "liberal" was this horrible centrist thing. I'll shiat on Democrats for their tactics and priorities all day, but now both liberal and progressive are bad things too?

I'm a liberal. I'm a progressive. I'm a leftist. I don't know what the fark I'm supposed to be with all this bitter gatekeeping in the face of horrible shiat. What's the term for "I'm trying to not be shiatty to people, and believe that people should be protected from legal, social, and economic persecution for their identities, and that socialist concepts are generally good. What label should I wear that will make people who generally agree with me not be biatchy?
 
Bloody William
2022-10-30 2:09:59 PM  

Avigdore: Someone Else's Alt: If the schools have any brains at all they will do it by lottery.

[Fark user image 826x264]


There a reason you were too scared to show that the story's from Reason?
 
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