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OdradekRex [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 7:54:45 AM  
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Going for that traditional British Christmas.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 8:20:25 AM  
Tax cuts for the wealthy who need it least.

Social services cuts for the people who need it the most.

/sorry to ruin the surprise
 
question_dj [TotalFark]
2022-10-26 8:47:10 AM  
Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!
 
Sorelian's Ghost [TotalFark]
2022-10-26 8:49:18 AM  
Rishi Sunak has delayed the government's much-anticipated fiscal statement - which is expected to unleash a new wave of Tory austerity - until next month in one of his first decisions as PM.  ...amid warnings of devastating public service cuts.

I assume he did this so he gets a better chance at outlasting his predecessor.
Not by much, but it won't be the worst of all time.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 8:57:21 AM  

question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!


I think we can expect this to become much more common

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inglixthemad
2022-10-26 9:36:12 AM  

Gubbo: Tax cuts for the wealthy who need it least.

Social services cuts for the people who need it the most.

/sorry to ruin the surprise


You forgot stealthily slashing the NHS budget to pay for it all.
 
Weaver95
2022-10-26 9:37:28 AM  
The UK government doesn't strike me as a particularly stable organization right now.
 
Alebak
2022-10-26 9:44:21 AM  

Gubbo: Tax cuts for the wealthy who need it least.

Social services cuts for the people who need it the most.

/sorry to ruin the surprise


"Yes we JUST tried this and it damaged the economy in a remarkably short amount of time... but this time it's different"
 
lilbjorn
2022-10-26 9:45:40 AM  
The Tories didn't want US voters to realize before the election how bad things get having the right-wing in charge all the time.
 
RasIanI
2022-10-26 9:46:09 AM  
"Ms Truss had set October 31 for a "medium term fiscal plan" that would unleash billions in cuts to fill a £30-40bn black hole."

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BitwiseShift
2022-10-26 9:47:38 AM  
November 17.  At least they had the sense to skip November 5th.  Need to space out the destruction of the government so there are more holidays.
 
IRestoreFurniture
2022-10-26 9:49:53 AM  
The UK needs to take a good look at America and do the exact opposite of what we've done.  The UK populace is currently OK at shaming idiots in charge a d it does seem to work...for now.  But they're on the slope that's been greased with astroglide and it's not looking good.
 
ImpendingCynic
2022-10-26 9:53:50 AM  
Brexiters wanted self-determination.

You got it. You're ruining the country all by yourselves.
 
RandomAxe [TotalFark]
2022-10-26 9:55:16 AM  
Look, it's a very simple proposal:  The remaining liquid assets of Great Britain will simply be moved into private hands, and the general populace encumbering the territory will be transitioned to new employment and housing as fertilizer.
 
Gaythiest Elitist [TotalFark]
2022-10-26 9:56:31 AM  

IRestoreFurniture: The UK needs to take a good look at America and do the exact opposite of what we've done.  The UK populace is currently OK at shaming idiots in charge a d it does seem to work...for now.  But they're on the slope that's been greased with astroglide and it's not looking good.


Oh, it's far too late for that I think. The British will learn to love our chlorinated chicken and lack of universal healthcare.
 
RasIanI
2022-10-26 10:00:46 AM  

question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!


Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.
 
Mr. Tweedy
2022-10-26 10:04:19 AM  
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Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 10:12:08 AM  

RasIanI: question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!

Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.


It's been shown over and over that austerity doesn't work.

But that isn't gonna stop anyone from doing it again.
 
Northern
2022-10-26 10:12:34 AM  

Sorelian's Ghost: Rishi Sunak has delayed the government's much-anticipated fiscal statement - which is expected to unleash a new wave of Tory austerity - until next month in one of his first decisions as PM.  ...amid warnings of devastating public service cuts.

I assume he did this so he gets a better chance at outlasting his predecessor.
Not by much, but it won't be the worst of all time.


Can the UK afford to continue as they were before Brexit?  I would start with cuts to rural UK, after all they voted for austerity.  Who better to break the news than the Tories?  Surely they will be greeted as liberators.
/Putin might die soon, but is likely laughing his vodka off at the absurd bullshiat he's pushing in the UK and USA, and the millions he's fooled.
 
Ketchuponsteak
2022-10-26 10:14:33 AM  
"Rishi Sunak must confirm now that benefits and pensions will be up-rated in line with inflation,"

That sounds odd. Where I live benefits, and pensions, follow the wage index rather than the inflation.

If you follow the inflation, pensions, and benefits, are stagnant forever, no matter the development of the nation.

And right now, people with pensions, and benefits, would get a larger growth than people who are employed.

Does who ever asked for this perhaps not know how things work, or are pensions, and benefits regulated in an odd manner in the UK?
 
kbronsito
2022-10-26 10:15:10 AM  
The PM should start spelling his name like 'sUnaK' to troll the Brits that claim he isn't United Kingdomnesian enough. Also dress up as Winston Churchill by using 'white face' for the office Halloween party.
 
Ketchuponsteak
2022-10-26 10:15:38 AM  

Gubbo: RasIanI: question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!

Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.

It's been shown over and over that austerity doesn't work.

But that isn't gonna stop anyone from doing it again.


It's been shown over and over that austerity works.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 10:20:22 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Gubbo: RasIanI: question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!

Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.

It's been shown over and over that austerity doesn't work.

But that isn't gonna stop anyone from doing it again.

It's been shown over and over that austerity works.


This is indeed correct, and I apologise.

It is almost without peer at redistributing wealth from the poor to the ultra-wealthy.
 
Northern
2022-10-26 10:22:16 AM  

Weaver95: The UK government doesn't strike me as a particularly stable organization right now.


The UK is run by the unelected son of the former leader who married a horse, and has a lifetime appointment.  How much more stable do you want?
 
OhioUGrad
2022-10-26 10:22:29 AM  

Gubbo: Tax cuts for the wealthy who need it least.

Social services cuts for the people who need it the most.

/sorry to ruin the surprise


and crypto for all!
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 10:24:17 AM  

Northern: Weaver95: The UK government doesn't strike me as a particularly stable organization right now.

The UK is run by the unelected son of the former leader who married a horse, and has a lifetime appointment.  How much more stable do you want?


Pretending that the royal family has any actual governing influence in the UK is a boring take and just deeply farking untrue.
 
Ketchuponsteak
2022-10-26 10:43:13 AM  

Gubbo: Ketchuponsteak: Gubbo: RasIanI: question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!

Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.

It's been shown over and over that austerity doesn't work.

But that isn't gonna stop anyone from doing it again.

It's been shown over and over that austerity works.

This is indeed correct, and I apologise.

It is almost without peer at redistributing wealth from the poor to the ultra-wealthy.


But you're right of course. Everyone knows that it's the poor who wins in the absence of austerity, like in Venezuela and Sri Lanka.

And raising taxes to fund the government is also bad, because that's austerity.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 10:45:22 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Gubbo: Ketchuponsteak: Gubbo: RasIanI: question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!

Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.

It's been shown over and over that austerity doesn't work.

But that isn't gonna stop anyone from doing it again.

It's been shown over and over that austerity works.

This is indeed correct, and I apologise.

It is almost without peer at redistributing wealth from the poor to the ultra-wealthy.

But you're right of course. Everyone knows that it's the poor who wins in the absence of austerity, like in Venezuela and Sri Lanka.

And raising taxes to fund the government is also bad, because that's austerity.


Which is a more irresistible right wing whatabout - Venezuala, or Chicago
 
The Envoy
2022-10-26 10:58:47 AM  

inglixthemad: Gubbo: Tax cuts for the wealthy who need it least.

Social services cuts for the people who need it the most.

/sorry to ruin the surprise

You forgot stealthily slashing the NHS budget to pay for it all.


That's most certainly not going to happen as I once foretold with great accuracy because I'm awesome that it wasn't going to happen in a thread years ago and here's a video that's 50 years old of a long-dead politician and you totally should watch it and apply it to modern times because nothing's changed in the UK, the village of Fartwarbling, Bucks tells me so plus the Archers is a documentary and the Daily Mail is awesome except when it's not but anyway...

...it's now LAW that the UK government gives the NHS brazillions of pounds every year, Boris made it law and he is a sober guy who's gorgeous and doesn't break laws or drink at parties or beat his wife I want to sniff his hair and touch my bum at the same time to remind me of my daydreams of going to Eton, but I was too stupid to get in so there.
 
jso2897
2022-10-26 11:14:12 AM  

The Envoy: inglixthemad: Gubbo: Tax cuts for the wealthy who need it least.

Social services cuts for the people who need it the most.

/sorry to ruin the surprise

You forgot stealthily slashing the NHS budget to pay for it all.

That's most certainly not going to happen as I once foretold with great accuracy because I'm awesome that it wasn't going to happen in a thread years ago and here's a video that's 50 years old of a long-dead politician and you totally should watch it and apply it to modern times because nothing's changed in the UK, the village of Fartwarbling, Bucks tells me so plus the Archers is a documentary and the Daily Mail is awesome except when it's not but anyway...

...it's now LAW that the UK government gives the NHS brazillions of pounds every year, Boris made it law and he is a sober guy who's gorgeous and doesn't break laws or drink at parties or beat his wife I want to sniff his hair and touch my bum at the same time to remind me of my daydreams of going to Eton, but I was too stupid to get in so there.


Well, I think that pretty well sums it up.
 
Ketchuponsteak
2022-10-26 11:18:42 AM  

Gubbo: Ketchuponsteak: Gubbo: Ketchuponsteak: Gubbo: RasIanI: question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!

Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.

It's been shown over and over that austerity doesn't work.

But that isn't gonna stop anyone from doing it again.

It's been shown over and over that austerity works.

This is indeed correct, and I apologise.

It is almost without peer at redistributing wealth from the poor to the ultra-wealthy.

But you're right of course. Everyone knows that it's the poor who wins in the absence of austerity, like in Venezuela and Sri Lanka.

And raising taxes to fund the government is also bad, because that's austerity.

Which is a more irresistible right wing whatabout - Venezuala, or Chicago


I'm not right wing.

Believing that not crashing the economy, by for example, taxing the rich is not a right wing policy either. But it is austerity.

Just using "austerity" as a scareterm is very much a pseudo-intellectual leftwing talking point, that does not in anyway attempt to understand the consequences on the poor when an economy crashes.

But of course. You don't want to increase taxes. Then how would you finance the welfare sector?
 
foo monkey
2022-10-26 11:22:58 AM  
I'll say this again.

It might sound counter-intuitive, but taking financial advice from a guy worth $800M is a shiatty idea.
 
RasIanI
2022-10-26 11:25:00 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Gubbo: RasIanI: question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!

Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.

It's been shown over and over that austerity doesn't work.

But that isn't gonna stop anyone from doing it again.

It's been shown over and over that austerity works.


"It's been shown over and over that austerity works."

I just gave you a major example of how it doesn't.

Want another one? Germany.

Want another one? The W Years in America.

So why would you come here and say that it does without providing primary documentation to refute the assertion that its a failure.

Thats not an argument -- it's just contradiction.
 
Ketchuponsteak
2022-10-26 11:57:25 AM  

RasIanI: Ketchuponsteak: Gubbo: RasIanI: question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!

Steven Harper, the Conservative PM of Canada, a country that didn't suffer the depths of the Great Recession [because reserve requirements were realistic], kept pushing austerity for 10 years -- and could never deliver anything but anemic GDP numbers. 1%+ at best.

Because the intention was never intended to do anything except deliver tax cuts to rich folks and corporations.

Stimulus is an actual investment in the country and its people.

It's been shown over and over that austerity doesn't work.

But that isn't gonna stop anyone from doing it again.

It's been shown over and over that austerity works.

"It's been shown over and over that austerity works."

I just gave you a major example of how it doesn't.

Want another one? Germany.

Want another one? The W Years in America.

So why would you come here and say that it does without providing primary documentation to refute the assertion that its a failure.

Thats not an argument -- it's just contradiction.


https://tidsskrift.dk/scandinavian_political_studies/article/download/32961/31371?inline=1

Sure. The Danish welfare state is a product of the austerity measures over a 10 year period.

Denmark is arguably a success story, where austerity allowed it to not only save, but also expand on its welfare system.
 
batlock666
2022-10-26 12:21:23 PM  

Gubbo: Northern: Weaver95: The UK government doesn't strike me as a particularly stable organization right now.

The UK is run by the unelected son of the former leader who married a horse, and has a lifetime appointment.  How much more stable do you want?

Pretending that the royal family has any actual governing influence in the UK is a boring take and just deeply farking untrue.


Revealed: Queen's sweeping immunity from more than 160 laws

Queen's secret influence on laws revealed in Scottish government memo

Queen lobbied for changes to three more laws, documents reveal
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 12:25:29 PM  

batlock666: Gubbo: Northern: Weaver95: The UK government doesn't strike me as a particularly stable organization right now.

The UK is run by the unelected son of the former leader who married a horse, and has a lifetime appointment.  How much more stable do you want?

Pretending that the royal family has any actual governing influence in the UK is a boring take and just deeply farking untrue.

Revealed: Queen's sweeping immunity from more than 160 laws

Queen's secret influence on laws revealed in Scottish government memo

Queen lobbied for changes to three more laws, documents reveal


Interesting. And yet I don't care and the queen changing a few things to suit herself in no way shape or form means that the royal family is active in the governance of the nation.

You want someone to blame for *gestures expansively*, you've got the Tories.
 
erik-k [OhFark]
2022-10-26 4:53:46 PM  

question_dj: Ah yes, austerity! Because it didn't work the first 5 times they tried it because it wasn't austere enough!


If the complete failure of conservative economic policy every time it's tried were enough to discredit it, it would've been discredited sometime around when the Sumerians invented writing.

/Those who push it do not consider the fact that it invariably screws everyone but the ultra-rich to be a bug
 
Cormee
2022-10-26 5:33:53 PM  

Gaythiest Elitist: IRestoreFurniture: The UK needs to take a good look at America and do the exact opposite of what we've done.  The UK populace is currently OK at shaming idiots in charge a d it does seem to work...for now.  But they're on the slope that's been greased with astroglide and it's not looking good.

Oh, it's far too late for that I think. The British will learn to love our chlorinated chicken and lack of universal healthcare.


The chlorinated chicken and NHS sell off were only best case scenario for the UK, in the event of them scoring a trade deal with the USA. They don't even get that now
 
iron de havilland [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 8:41:06 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: "Rishi Sunak must confirm now that benefits and pensions will be up-rated in line with inflation,"

That sounds odd. Where I live benefits, and pensions, follow the wage index rather than the inflation.

If you follow the inflation, pensions, and benefits, are stagnant forever, no matter the development of the nation.


No, they'd rise in line with inflation. Just like you want wages to rise in line with inflation.

Is "wage index" Danish terminology for pay rising in line with inflation? Because it sounds like it is.
 
Ketchuponsteak
2022-10-26 10:06:38 PM  

iron de havilland: Ketchuponsteak: "Rishi Sunak must confirm now that benefits and pensions will be up-rated in line with inflation,"

That sounds odd. Where I live benefits, and pensions, follow the wage index rather than the inflation.

If you follow the inflation, pensions, and benefits, are stagnant forever, no matter the development of the nation.

No, they'd rise in line with inflation. Just like you want wages to rise in line with inflation.

Is "wage index" Danish terminology for pay rising in line with inflation? Because it sounds like it is.


I don't think you know what inflation is.

No, the "wage index" is linked to the average wage growth. When the wage growth is higher than the inflation, people become richer.
 
iron de havilland [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-26 10:14:01 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: iron de havilland: Ketchuponsteak: "Rishi Sunak must confirm now that benefits and pensions will be up-rated in line with inflation,"

That sounds odd. Where I live benefits, and pensions, follow the wage index rather than the inflation.

If you follow the inflation, pensions, and benefits, are stagnant forever, no matter the development of the nation.

No, they'd rise in line with inflation. Just like you want wages to rise in line with inflation.

Is "wage index" Danish terminology for pay rising in line with inflation? Because it sounds like it is.

I don't think you know what inflation is.

No, the "wage index" is linked to the average wage growth. When the wage growth is higher than the inflation, people become richer.


Maybe you use a different definition. If inflation is at x% and pensions, benefits and wages don't also rise at x%, recipients get less money, and I hate to use this cliché, but I'm gunna, in real terms. If they all keep track with inflation, they effectively receive the same money.
 
Whatta Wombat
2022-10-27 12:33:58 AM  
In Australia we use the CPI (consumer price index) to link to wage and pensions increase.
 
Northern
2022-10-27 5:49:50 AM  

Gubbo: Northern: Weaver95: The UK government doesn't strike me as a particularly stable organization right now.

The UK is run by the unelected son of the former leader who married a horse, and has a lifetime appointment.  How much more stable do you want?

Pretending that the royal family has any actual governing influence in the UK is a boring take and just deeply farking untrue.


So you didn't like my joke.
Technically speaking Charles is now head of state for the UK and commonwealth nations like Canada as well as head of the Anglican Church.
Does he have much power over the UK government?  Nope.
I find the current situation in the UK alarming.  If major austerity and other farkery are announced, I expect Northern Ireland to rejoin the Republic, and Scotland could leave after that.
So my joke is funny because in reality their government and national identity has been shattered, and Brexit has caused economic disruption.
/that's the joke
 
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