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(Major League Baseball)   A team who will surely be chasing Aaron Judge this off-season is the Dodgers, since they already have their own highly-paid MVP outfielder Mookie Betts, who is maybe willing to move to second base to accommodate #99   (mlb.com) divider line
    More: Unlikely, Baseball, Baseball positions, Mookie Betts, center field, second baseman, Manager Dave Roberts, right fielder, offseason's Aaron Judge sweepstakes  
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205 clicks; posted to Sports » on 25 Oct 2022 at 5:40 AM (20 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-25 7:55:57 AM  
Because if there's any team who won't throw a ton of money at talent, it's the Yankees.
 
2022-10-25 8:45:15 AM  
Doesn't Gavin Lux play 2B? He is their best young player who has potential to be hit for average and power. Why would they push him out of the lineup? Did the NL adopt the DH? I can't remember. If they did, wouldn't it make more sense to have the 31 year old Judge DH mostly and let Mookie Betts continue to win gold gloves in RF?
 
2022-10-25 8:52:01 AM  

balfourk: Doesn't Gavin Lux play 2B? He is their best young player who has potential to be hit for average and power. Why would they push him out of the lineup? Did the NL adopt the DH? I can't remember. If they did, wouldn't it make more sense to have the 31 year old Judge DH mostly and let Mookie Betts continue to win gold gloves in RF?


It's almost like subby constructed this headline to get me riled up at 5:51 am.
 
2022-10-25 9:42:04 AM  

Gonz: Because if there's any team who won't throw a ton of money at talent, it's the Yankees.


Yankees likely won't go 10 years for Judge. Other teams might. This is Pujols 2.0 waiting to happen and as much fun as it is having Judge in the lineup, I hope cooler heads prevail.

How many more times do the Yankees need to be beat in the playoffs by small ball before they realize situational hitting is more valuable than home run derbies?

/the answer is lots, unfortunately
 
2022-10-25 9:43:18 AM  

balfourk: Doesn't Gavin Lux play 2B? He is their best young player who has potential to be hit for average and power. Why would they push him out of the lineup? Did the NL adopt the DH? I can't remember. If they did, wouldn't it make more sense to have the 31 year old Judge DH mostly and let Mookie Betts continue to win gold gloves in RF?


they'll change the rules to let the dodgers field 11 players and get 5 outs per inning.   fans will crow throughout the season about how awesome they are and then they'll lose the first round of the playoffs after which they'll blame the umpires for plotting against them, or the other team for playing too hard.
 
2022-10-25 9:55:22 AM  

balfourk: If they did, wouldn't it make more sense to have the 31 year old Judge DH mostly and let Mookie Betts continue to win gold gloves in RF?


Make more sense, sure. The issue is likely that Judge won't sign with a team that DHs him in what he still considers the prime of his career.

Gonz: Because if there's any team who won't throw a ton of money at talent, it's the Yankees.


They have limits. Hal isn't George. He's grumbled about the CBT on more than one occasion, still has the awful taste of that Jacoby Ellsbury contract in his mouth and is probably staring down a few unproductive years at the tail end of Stanton's. He'll splurge, but he's also not going to let Cashman get into a bidding war with himself.

H31N0US: How many more times do the Yankees need to be beat in the playoffs by small ball before they realize situational hitting is more valuable than home run derbies?


I think they realize it.. the issue is attaining it. Losing LeMahieu hurt that department a lot (as did keeping him in the lineup when he was clearly hurt, but they didn't have a ton of other options), and I think they expected more out of Donaldson and IKF (though that trade was probably still a net positive over Sanchez).
 
2022-10-25 10:04:05 AM  

H31N0US: How many more times do the Yankees need to be beat in the playoffs by small ball before they realize situational hitting is more valuable than home run derbies?


You have to do both, b/c the other team will adjust their pitching/defense if they don't fear your home run power.
 
2022-10-25 11:40:53 AM  
Dodgers really dodged a bullet by not offering Bellinger a max contract when they could have.

If they can get a taker for him, then Judge and Betts can play in the outfield.

They need pitching, not hitting.  They will probably let Trea Turner go, but for this past season they had more than enough hitting...until it mattered.

Adding Judge would be exciting but unnecessary.

They will probably go after deGrom.
 
2022-10-25 11:46:06 AM  

Jack Sabbath: They will probably go after deGrom.


What's the farking point if they'll never let him pitch past the 5th farking inning of a playoff game?
 
2022-10-25 12:28:16 PM  
The Yanks will keep him until he can no longer hit, then the Angels will sign him.

It's the circle of life.
 
2022-10-25 12:32:06 PM  
Judge is going to get a 10 year, $350 million contract from SOMEONE and the last two or three years he'll look like Miguel Cabrera does in Detroit.
 
2022-10-25 12:47:39 PM  

meanmutton: Judge is going to get a 10 year, $350 million contract from SOMEONE and the last two or three years he'll look like Miguel Cabrera does in Detroit.


The Yankees offered $213M/7 before the season (+$17M for this year.. he ended up getting $19M in arbitration), so north of $30M/yr is the jumping off point.

I'm really not sure if its the money or the duration he and his agent are after, but he's going to be 31 a month into next season.

Comparing the market, Mike Trout just signed $426.5M/12 this year, Juan Soto turned down $440M/15 with the Nats and Ohtani is getting $30M/1 before becoming a free agent after next season.
 
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2022-10-25 12:56:06 PM  

meanmutton: Judge is going to get a 10 year, $350 million contract from SOMEONE and the last two or three years he'll look like Miguel Cabrera does in Detroit.


If it weren't so dead ass true, I'd be upset with this comment
 
2022-10-25 1:15:51 PM  
I just don't get why any team is even considering these 10+ year contracts. Even though I think it would be awesome for some of these guys to play out the end of their career in one place, this level of money for what's probably going to be at least 3-4 years of low production doesn't make any financial sense.
 
2022-10-25 1:33:47 PM  

meanmutton: Judge is going to get a 10 year, $350 million contract from SOMEONE and the last two or three years he'll look like Miguel Cabrera does in Detroit.


no one in their right mind would offer him 10 years.  no way he holds up that long to even be a cabrera or pujols

but some probably will offer it.  it'll just be at a aav that he won't like
 
2022-10-25 1:37:43 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: no one in their right mind would offer him 10 years.


Hi! Have you met the Angels?
 
2022-10-25 1:42:28 PM  

WhackingDay: I just don't get why any team is even considering these 10+ year contracts. Even though I think it would be awesome for some of these guys to play out the end of their career in one place, this level of money for what's probably going to be at least 3-4 years of low production doesn't make any financial sense.


Because you're paying him for what he'll do in the next 3-4, not the last 3-4.
 
2022-10-25 1:58:50 PM  

The Bestest: Dead for Tax Reasons: no one in their right mind would offer him 10 years.

Hi! Have you met the Angels?


oh they're definitely part of why i said someone would

wold be a fitting end to arte moreno's tenure to lumber the new owner with one last albatross of a contract
 
2022-10-25 2:48:46 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Because you're paying him for what he'll do in the next 3-4, not the last 3-4.


Yup. The Phillies don't expect Harper to still be worth the money once it hits Year 7 or 8. He is, however, worth every single penny right this moment.
 
2022-10-25 3:06:48 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: WhackingDay: I just don't get why any team is even considering these 10+ year contracts. Even though I think it would be awesome for some of these guys to play out the end of their career in one place, this level of money for what's probably going to be at least 3-4 years of low production doesn't make any financial sense.

Because you're paying him for what he'll do in the next 3-4, not the last 3-4.


Some would argue that this is effectively back pay for the first several years of those players' careers, when they may have been making at or near the minimum and putting up All-Star numbers.
 
2022-10-25 3:12:29 PM  

jdjoker: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: WhackingDay: I just don't get why any team is even considering these 10+ year contracts. Even though I think it would be awesome for some of these guys to play out the end of their career in one place, this level of money for what's probably going to be at least 3-4 years of low production doesn't make any financial sense.

Because you're paying him for what he'll do in the next 3-4, not the last 3-4.

Some would argue that this is effectively back pay for the first several years of those players' careers, when they may have been making at or near the minimum and putting up All-Star numbers.


Yeah, that too.
 
2022-10-25 6:29:18 PM  

balfourk: Doesn't Gavin Lux play 2B? He is their best young player who has potential to be hit for average and power. Why would they push him out of the lineup? Did the NL adopt the DH? I can't remember. If they did, wouldn't it make more sense to have the 31 year old Judge DH mostly and let Mookie Betts continue to win gold gloves in RF?


Average, maybe (he hit .276 this year).

Power, not so much (he hit just 7 home runs this year).

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/luxga01.shtml

And, yes, the NL got the DH.  Everybody just sort of gave up on keeping pitchers batting.
 
2022-10-25 6:45:16 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Dodgers really dodged a bullet by not offering Bellinger a max contract when they could have.

If they can get a taker for him, then Judge and Betts can play in the outfield.

They need pitching, not hitting.  They will probably let Trea Turner go, but for this past season they had more than enough hitting...until it mattered.

Adding Judge would be exciting but unnecessary.

They will probably go after deGrom.


The Dodgers just need to win in October, not the regular season.  They have plenty of pitching (as usual).  They had some injury issues, but even then, I believe they had the best team ERA in baseball.
 
2022-10-25 8:03:03 PM  
Tall position players don't tend to play much past their mid 30s. 31 year olds don't tend to get better as they age. Judge seems like a decent guy, and MLB's policy of underpaying young stars is abysmal. For Judge's sake, I hope he gets a nice payday, but I'm not sure I want my team to pay him.
 
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