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2022-10-24 1:08:51 PM  
This is what airlocks are for.

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2022-10-24 1:11:27 PM  
Solution? Do the Boom Shaka Laka dance.

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2022-10-24 1:45:26 PM  
Don't they do rather severe background checks and psych assessments of astronaut candidates? Wouldn't something like this be caught before they're locked in a tiny space for half a decade?

*reads article*

Oh. Russians. Well, consider me chastised.
 
2022-10-24 1:48:53 PM  
Now we know the reason why:

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2022-10-24 1:50:49 PM  
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2022-10-24 1:51:17 PM  
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2022-10-24 1:59:27 PM  
This issue won't need to be addressed at all for decades. As Subby points out there's quite almost nothing that can be done once a voyage has begun, and that'll continue to be the case for a loooong time. These people train their asses off and know each other very well so these issues will be caught here on Earth years before launch.
 
2022-10-24 1:59:52 PM  
We must address the potential for sexual harassment and assault away from Earth

"We"?
 
2022-10-24 2:09:06 PM  

Bootleg: Don't they do rather severe background checks and psych assessments of astronaut candidates?


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2022-10-24 2:11:02 PM  

Bootleg: Don't they do rather severe background checks and psych assessments of astronaut candidates? Wouldn't something like this be caught before they're locked in a tiny space for half a decade?

Oh. Russians. Well, consider me chastised.


Lisa Nowak is the most notable, but several other NASA-qualified and vetted astronauts have snapped under the stress (or the decompression, post-career) to one degree or another.  A point-in-time assessment only goes so far.
 
2022-10-24 2:11:30 PM  
How about a quickie marriage to build a crew, an adulterous affair leading to a double murder/suicide, and the survivor raised by Martians?

Nobody would ever read that book.

/at least after college
//made the mistake of reading the "uncut" edition well afterwards
///should have known better.  Ever read where RAH himself said it was 'way too long' and cut it down himself.
 
2022-10-24 2:34:24 PM  
Note to self, do not work for HR in the future
 
2022-10-24 2:42:07 PM  
put saltpeter in all the food duh.
 
2022-10-24 2:43:38 PM  

khitsicker: This is what airlocks are for.

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2022-10-24 3:50:35 PM  
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2022-10-24 3:50:50 PM  
This is why long space missions with multiple humans involved would be much harder than even the technological challenges.

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells when you force two people to be together in a small space for a long time.

So, just allow married couples on the missions? Or very openly promiscuous people? Or only asexual astronauts?
 
2022-10-24 3:52:58 PM  
Not going to be an issue because we wont be alive long enough for it to become an issue

Especially because any company who actually tries to send people will be forced to have possible riders go though a stack of waivers taller than most city buildings before they get on
 
2022-10-24 3:58:28 PM  
Just have the crew and spouses do an orgy mixer before flight to work out all thier kinks.
 
2022-10-24 4:00:58 PM  

ChibiDebuHage: This is why long space missions with multiple humans involved would be much harder than even the technological challenges.

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells when you force two people to be together in a small space for a long time.

So, just allow married couples on the missions? Or very openly promiscuous people? Or only asexual astronauts?


Put potential crews into a year-long prep mission in sealed facilities with limited outside contact and limited private space.

Watch them over CCTV.

Whichever crew handles it best, you launch with.  Next best becomes the backup crew.
 
2022-10-24 4:13:26 PM  
ChibiDebuHage:

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells

Or a person who has cigarettes, and a companion who would like to earn some?
 
2022-10-24 4:13:36 PM  
The answer is simple: constant space orgy.  The crew should all be DTF and if Futurama has taught me anything the ship should be horny sometimes, too.

Eventually everyone will just calm down and mellow out, like wine.
 
2022-10-24 4:43:23 PM  

ChibiDebuHage: This is why long space missions with multiple humans involved would be much harder than even the technological challenges.

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells when you force two people to be together in a small space for a long time.

So, just allow married couples on the missions? Or very openly promiscuous people? Or only asexual astronauts?


Colonization implies homesteading, and any mission that expects to be profitable should ALSO expect at least some of the crew will be permanent residents.

So that strongly implies couples, and then only the ones psychologically screened for the kinds of insecurities and inferiority complexes that usually underpin sexual misconduct and/or promiscuity.
 
2022-10-24 4:50:21 PM  
Niven was right.  Space travel has to be one big interplanetary gangbang or its just not going to work.
 
2022-10-24 4:54:08 PM  

TheSubjunctive: Bootleg: Don't they do rather severe background checks and psych assessments of astronaut candidates? Wouldn't something like this be caught before they're locked in a tiny space for half a decade?

Oh. Russians. Well, consider me chastised.

Lisa Nowak is the most notable, but several other NASA-qualified and vetted astronauts have snapped under the stress (or the decompression, post-career) to one degree or another.  A point-in-time assessment only goes so far.


I used to live near Quantico back when the local rags actually reported on the wrongdoings of law enforcement.  Those FBI agents would get into all sorts of jealousy/relationship conflicts far in excess of standard issue domestic violence.
 
2022-10-24 5:03:44 PM  
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2022-10-24 5:16:40 PM  

akallen404: ChibiDebuHage: This is why long space missions with multiple humans involved would be much harder than even the technological challenges.

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells when you force two people to be together in a small space for a long time.

So, just allow married couples on the missions? Or very openly promiscuous people? Or only asexual astronauts?

Colonization implies homesteading, and any mission that expects to be profitable should ALSO expect at least some of the crew will be permanent residents.

So that strongly implies couples, and then only the ones psychologically screened for the kinds of insecurities and inferiority complexes that usually underpin sexual misconduct and/or promiscuity.


Half of all marriages fail, many of them fail very very dramatically. And that's without forcing the couple to live in a very confined space for several years.

And, married people cheat all the time, unfortunately.

Or, imagine one person in a copule being brutally dumped partway on a 5-year mission, and having to watch their ex-partner get it on with another crew member three feet away for the remaining several years. This would be a nightmare scenario for many, which no amount of psychological screening can prepare for.

No matter how hard NASA or etc would try to pick good candidates, there are many human-social unknowns that could turn a mission into a multi-billion dollar catastrophe.
 
2022-10-24 5:30:18 PM  

Naido: ChibiDebuHage:

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells

Or a person who has cigarettes, and a companion who would like to earn some?


Note to self: bring along cigarettes if I ever meet Naido

Also, here what a serial sexual predator boss on a 5-year space mission might look like "just going for it":

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2022-10-24 5:31:23 PM  
If it is a voyage to Mars then this issue comes up for pretty much any crime. There will be no prison. Basically it is live with them or toss them out the airlock. Indeed if it is murder, it will have to be the airlock.  We lock people up on Earth because it is a practical option.
What is worse is the crew won't have access to a judge and jury or even proper legal representation. For light infractions, they will need some creative punishments.
 
2022-10-24 5:50:32 PM  
ChibiDebuHage:

That's why it's an orgy.  Nobody can be monogamous.  Plus all the freakin' keeps up muscle mass and bone density.

The pirate costumes are harder for me to justify reasonably.
 
2022-10-24 5:52:00 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: How about a quickie marriage to build a crew, an adulterous affair leading to a double murder/suicide, and the survivor raised by Martians?

Nobody would ever read that book.

/at least after college
//made the mistake of reading the "uncut" edition well afterwards
///should have known better.  Ever read where RAH himself said it was 'way too long' and cut it down himself.


Some authors actually appreciate the job that editors do.  RAH wasn't one of them.
 
2022-10-24 5:53:39 PM  
TheMysteriousStranger:

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Martian Law already has precedent.
 
2022-10-24 6:02:52 PM  

ChibiDebuHage: akallen404: ChibiDebuHage: This is why long space missions with multiple humans involved would be much harder than even the technological challenges.

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells when you force two people to be together in a small space for a long time.

So, just allow married couples on the missions? Or very openly promiscuous people? Or only asexual astronauts?

Colonization implies homesteading, and any mission that expects to be profitable should ALSO expect at least some of the crew will be permanent residents.

So that strongly implies couples, and then only the ones psychologically screened for the kinds of insecurities and inferiority complexes that usually underpin sexual misconduct and/or promiscuity.

Half of all marriages fail, many of them fail very very dramatically. And that's without forcing the couple to live in a very confined space for several years.

And, married people cheat all the time, unfortunately.


Which would be why I said: "screened for the kinds of insecurities and inferiority complexes that usually underpin sexual misconduct and/or promiscuity."

That applies to broken marriages too. You can't 100% filter out all bad relationships, but codependency and compensatory dependencies are pretty easy to spot, even if a huge number of people fail to recognize it when it happens to them.

Besides, the relationship really only needs to last long enough for them to get their feet on solid ground where they can more easily get the hell away from each other. They may have a falling out ten years from now, but you can at least certify that one of the couples doesn't consist of a naive Christwaif and a manipulating psychopath with mommy issues or something.
 
2022-10-24 6:07:56 PM  

akallen404: ChibiDebuHage: This is why long space missions with multiple humans involved would be much harder than even the technological challenges.

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells when you force two people to be together in a small space for a long time.

So, just allow married couples on the missions? Or very openly promiscuous people? Or only asexual astronauts?

Colonization implies homesteading, and any mission that expects to be profitable should ALSO expect at least some of the crew will be permanent residents.

So that strongly implies couples, and then only the ones psychologically screened for the kinds of insecurities and inferiority complexes that usually underpin sexual misconduct and/or promiscuity.


"Promiscuity" isn't caused by "insecurities and inferiority complexes." How farking long has it been since you got laid? Good Lord.
 
2022-10-24 6:07:56 PM  
I thought space-travelling beings were supposed to be enlightened beyond that sort of behavior.
 
2022-10-24 6:09:58 PM  
 
2022-10-24 6:12:09 PM  

LouisZepher: I thought space-travelling beings were supposed to be enlightened beyond that sort of behavior.


If anime, sci-fi, video games, or my own dreams have taught me anything, you'd better waterproof all the control panels
 
2022-10-24 6:22:25 PM  

leeksfromchichis: LouisZepher: I thought space-travelling beings were supposed to be enlightened beyond that sort of behavior.

If anime, sci-fi, video games, or my own dreams have taught me anything, you'd better waterproof all the control panels


Right. "Water"proof.
 
2022-10-24 7:09:32 PM  
 
2022-10-24 8:53:08 PM  

emtwo: akallen404: ChibiDebuHage: This is why long space missions with multiple humans involved would be much harder than even the technological challenges.

We should learn from what we know happens in jail cells when you force two people to be together in a small space for a long time.

So, just allow married couples on the missions? Or very openly promiscuous people? Or only asexual astronauts?

Colonization implies homesteading, and any mission that expects to be profitable should ALSO expect at least some of the crew will be permanent residents.

So that strongly implies couples, and then only the ones psychologically screened for the kinds of insecurities and inferiority complexes that usually underpin sexual misconduct and/or promiscuity.

"Promiscuity" isn't caused by "insecurities and inferiority complexes."


It is when you're married.
 
2022-10-24 10:15:03 PM  

Russ1642: This issue won't need to be addressed at all for decades. As Subby points out there's quite almost nothing that can be done once a voyage has begun, and that'll continue to be the case for a loooong time. These people train their asses off and know each other very well so these issues will be caught here on Earth years before launch.


Even if they aren't, sometimes abusive men/women are very good at hiding, there isn't much that can be done. You're stuck on a ship for months without any kind of respite. Maybe you'll make sure that person who causes the problem is never alone with anyone, but you can't do much else in space. All the jokes about airlocks aside, that's also a good way to end up like Stranger in a Strange Land with crews killing each other off.
 
2022-10-24 11:22:05 PM  

inglixthemad: Russ1642: This issue won't need to be addressed at all for decades. As Subby points out there's quite almost nothing that can be done once a voyage has begun, and that'll continue to be the case for a loooong time. These people train their asses off and know each other very well so these issues will be caught here on Earth years before launch.

Even if they aren't, sometimes abusive men/women are very good at hiding, there isn't much that can be done. You're stuck on a ship for months without any kind of respite. Maybe you'll make sure that person who causes the problem is never alone with anyone, but you can't do much else in space. All the jokes about airlocks aside, that's also a good way to end up like Stranger in a Strange Land with crews killing each other off.


Imagine a SpaceX mission to colonize Mars, with 20 people making it there initially... including Elon Musk.

Is there any doubt whatsoever that Musk would try to Fark every last fertile woman on the mission?
 
2022-10-24 11:50:34 PM  

ChibiDebuHage: inglixthemad: Russ1642: This issue won't need to be addressed at all for decades. As Subby points out there's quite almost nothing that can be done once a voyage has begun, and that'll continue to be the case for a loooong time. These people train their asses off and know each other very well so these issues will be caught here on Earth years before launch.

Even if they aren't, sometimes abusive men/women are very good at hiding, there isn't much that can be done. You're stuck on a ship for months without any kind of respite. Maybe you'll make sure that person who causes the problem is never alone with anyone, but you can't do much else in space. All the jokes about airlocks aside, that's also a good way to end up like Stranger in a Strange Land with crews killing each other off.

Imagine a SpaceX mission to colonize Mars, with 20 people making it there initially... including Elon Musk.

Is there any doubt whatsoever that Musk would try to Fark every last fertile woman on the mission?


You think Musker is going to go to Mars? LOL. That would mean he would have to sacrifice comfort and bust his arse to live. Once he left the safety of Earth, things get dicey for him. On Mars he becomes a rich guy where wealth doesn't mean shiat, and not doing your job could kill someone.

Why Starship will FAIL at Mars!
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2022-10-25 11:19:35 AM  

ChibiDebuHage: inglixthemad: Russ1642: This issue won't need to be addressed at all for decades. As Subby points out there's quite almost nothing that can be done once a voyage has begun, and that'll continue to be the case for a loooong time. These people train their asses off and know each other very well so these issues will be caught here on Earth years before launch.

Even if they aren't, sometimes abusive men/women are very good at hiding, there isn't much that can be done. You're stuck on a ship for months without any kind of respite. Maybe you'll make sure that person who causes the problem is never alone with anyone, but you can't do much else in space. All the jokes about airlocks aside, that's also a good way to end up like Stranger in a Strange Land with crews killing each other off.

Imagine a SpaceX mission to colonize Mars, with 20 people making it there initially... including Elon Musk.

Is there any doubt whatsoever that Musk would try to Fark every last fertile woman on the mission?


That's a mission that's many decades away.
 
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