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(Vail Daily)   After denying allegations of intimidation tactics being used by his department, Sheriff running for reelection arrests his opponent at their debate   (vaildaily.com) divider line
    More: Murica, Police, Constable, 37-year-old Paul Agneberg, Sheriff, Coroner, Undersheriff Dan Loya, Bailiff, Van Beek's opponent  
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2022-10-21 2:52:03 PM  
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2022-10-21 7:42:11 PM  
Slowly but surely, the fascists are growing bolder.

Very, extremely ungood.

/This will end in horror
 
2022-10-21 7:42:55 PM  
Unfortunate the accident that's going to befall him while in custody.
 
2022-10-21 7:44:52 PM  
No arguing that there is fascism on full display here, but...

...if you are going to run for sheriff, first make sure your damn parking tickets are paid off.
 
2022-10-21 7:44:55 PM  
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"This is the violence I'm talking about," Agneberg said as he was being arrested. "They use violence and intimidation."
 
2022-10-21 7:44:57 PM  
Police state
 
2022-10-21 7:45:11 PM  
Agneberg was presented with the warrant during the arrest and expressed concern that it did not contain a judge's signature.

"It's not a legitimate warrant," Agneberg said.

"You can take it up with the judge," Loya replied.

As the sheriff he is obviously the supreme authority in the county and dissent against his reign can not be tolerated.
 
2022-10-21 7:45:48 PM  

gunga galunga: No arguing that there is fascism on full display here, but...

...if you are going to run for sheriff, first make sure your damn parking tickets are paid off.


assuming there ever were any actual parking tickets...
 
2022-10-21 7:45:49 PM  
A-holes like them is why I shave
 
2022-10-21 7:46:21 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: gunga galunga: No arguing that there is fascism on full display here, but...

...if you are going to run for sheriff, first make sure your damn parking tickets are paid off.

assuming there ever were any actual parking tickets...


True.
 
2022-10-21 7:46:48 PM  
The warrant wasn't signed. He must have been marked "catch and release".

/Also....that's a pretty explicit message to F off or else
 
2022-10-21 7:48:14 PM  
Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals. ... Agnebergdidn't make mention of the bill, but said through the decriminalization of certain natural substances "we can make plant medicine way more appealing than fentanyl, and people can have safe access to this stuff."

I was ready to be outraged by an incumbent having his competitor arrested, but it doesn't sound like this guy is really a serious candidate.  It sounds like he's running a stunt and so I have a little more tolerance for the incumbent running a stunt, too.
 
2022-10-21 7:49:00 PM  
Now test him for drugs and charge him for being a hippie!
 
2022-10-21 7:49:18 PM  
Loya, dressed in plain clothes, said he was outside the building with Deputy Jordan Harrison when he spotted Agneberg leaving the event. Loya said they were not there waiting for Agneberg, but upon seeing him they felt they had to make the arrest.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
 
2022-10-21 7:49:46 PM  

Uzzah: Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals. ... Agnebergdidn't make mention of the bill, but said through the decriminalization of certain natural substances "we can make plant medicine way more appealing than fentanyl, and people can have safe access to this stuff."

I was ready to be outraged by an incumbent having his competitor arrested, but it doesn't sound like this guy is really a serious candidate.  It sounds like he's running a stunt and so I have a little more tolerance for the incumbent running a stunt, too.


I see your morals are as fungible as your grip on reality.
 
2022-10-21 7:50:02 PM  
Nothing to worry about. Sheriffs and police are our heroes in uniform, the community's finest, and the bearers of upstanding values and civic morality. Rest assured!
 
2022-10-21 7:50:07 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: gunga galunga: No arguing that there is fascism on full display here, but...

...if you are going to run for sheriff, first make sure your damn parking tickets are paid off.

assuming there ever were any actual parking tickets...


Or that he didn't have a deputy assigned to harass him, waiting for him to slip up.
 
2022-10-21 7:51:41 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: Unfortunate the accident that's going to befall him while in custody.


Since the pig insisted on putting Agneberg in the front seat & buckling him in w/ his hands cuffed behind his back, he was at increased risk of injury & death in case of an accident - especially an accident where the airbag goes off. And they did all this in front of people, assuming they would face no consequences, & after arresting him on an unsigned warrant. This candidate needs to get a good attorney & sue the crap out of those jerks personally regardless of the election outcome. (Which the sheriff must be worried about since he had his friend help him attack & intimidate Mr Agneberg instead of assuming he'd be re-elected on his record & merits.)
 
2022-10-21 7:52:05 PM  
its the county of vail and beaver creek ski resorts.....
sounds like the guy was running because reasons and has no real sheriffin' experience
 
2022-10-21 7:58:07 PM  

olorin604: Agneberg was presented with the warrant during the arrest and expressed concern that it did not contain a judge's signature.

"It's not a legitimate warrant," Agneberg said.

"You can take it up with the judge," Loya replied.

As the sheriff he is obviously the supreme authority in the county and dissent against his reign can not be tolerated.


"You can take it up with the judge."

Okay, what judge? Because no judge signed this warrant.

I hope they sue.
 
2022-10-21 7:58:16 PM  

orange whip: its the county of vail and beaver creek ski resorts.....
sounds like the guy was running because reasons and has no real sheriffin' experience


Yes, because experienced sheriffin has been such a good thing for everybody.

I support the hippie.
 
2022-10-21 7:58:36 PM  
The sheriff is a total Dick but I'm not crazy about the other guy either
 
2022-10-21 7:59:42 PM  
So how much is Sheriff Needledick gonna spend in campaign ads over the next 2 weeks saying that his opponent won't make a good sheriff because he was arrested?
 
2022-10-21 8:00:24 PM  

Uzzah: Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals. ... Agnebergdidn't make mention of the bill, but said through the decriminalization of certain natural substances "we can make plant medicine way more appealing than fentanyl, and people can have safe access to this stuff."

I was ready to be outraged by an incumbent having his competitor arrested, but it doesn't sound like this guy is really a serious candidate.  It sounds like he's running a stunt and so I have a little more tolerance for the incumbent running a stunt, too.


Is a hippie sheriff really worse than an openly fascistic sheriff with a demonstrated propensity for abusing his station?

Really?
 
2022-10-21 8:01:01 PM  
"We've expanded dramatically since I've taken office, and so one of the first things I did was transparency, opening up communication, and that's tantamount to being able to connect with the community, and the community being able to connect with us," van Beek said.

Tantamount means "nearly the same as." For example, smashing the TV with a baseball bat is tantamount to domestic violence. I think the word you might be looking for is "paramount."  Maybe.

Don't use $5 words if you don't know what they mean.
 
2022-10-21 8:01:50 PM  
Bannon walked free today.
This Democrat had traffic tickets, though.. So jail immediately!
 
2022-10-21 8:02:46 PM  

orange whip: its the county of vail and beaver creek ski resorts.....
sounds like the guy was running because reasons and has no real sheriffin' experience


You don't need no sheriffin' experience in Colorado. If elected you have to take an 80 hour class on sheriffin' and have one year to get certified. County will pass for the class.

So if you're considering a career change....
 
2022-10-21 8:04:25 PM  
Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals.

"You get the victim and the perpetrator together in the same room and you learn why and how they crossed paths with each other," Agneberg said.


Pseudo hippy logic. I'm sure victims can't wait to sing kumbaya with criminals and the criminals are looking forward to make incriminating statements.
 
2022-10-21 8:04:30 PM  
Sheriffs are showing themselves to be among the scariest of the MAGA players.  They have all the usual stupid, and shiatloads of guns, but they also have the patina of officiality and authority that they really take to heart.  And they'll bust your jaw if you don't agree.  Those farkers think they're the officer-corps of the rebellion forces that start a civil war next year.
 
2022-10-21 8:05:00 PM  

Fart And Smunny: Uzzah: Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals. ... Agnebergdidn't make mention of the bill, but said through the decriminalization of certain natural substances "we can make plant medicine way more appealing than fentanyl, and people can have safe access to this stuff."

I was ready to be outraged by an incumbent having his competitor arrested, but it doesn't sound like this guy is really a serious candidate.  It sounds like he's running a stunt and so I have a little more tolerance for the incumbent running a stunt, too.

Is a hippie sheriff really worse than an openly fascistic sheriff with a demonstrated propensity for abusing his station?

Really?


If the hippie won, how long would the rest of the department let him live?

If a department is corrupt, historically they don't take kindly to cleanup efforts.
 
2022-10-21 8:05:20 PM  

austerity101: olorin604: Agneberg was presented with the warrant during the arrest and expressed concern that it did not contain a judge's signature.

"It's not a legitimate warrant," Agneberg said.

"You can take it up with the judge," Loya replied.

As the sheriff he is obviously the supreme authority in the county and dissent against his reign can not be tolerated.

"You can take it up with the judge."

Okay, what judge? Because no judge signed this warrant.

I hope they sue.


Yeah, that jumped out at me.  Curious to see how that works out...
 
2022-10-21 8:05:38 PM  
Pity Hunter S Thompson isn't on the newspaper there anymore.
 
2022-10-21 8:06:45 PM  

King Something: So how much is Sheriff Needledick gonna spend in campaign ads over the next 2 weeks saying that his opponent won't make a good sheriff because he was arrested?


You have to be the change you want to see in the world.
 
2022-10-21 8:08:16 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: gunga galunga: No arguing that there is fascism on full display here, but...

...if you are going to run for sheriff, first make sure your damn parking tickets are paid off.

assuming there ever were any actual parking tickets...


Or that unpaid parking tickets was an offense that warrants arrest.
 
2022-10-21 8:09:54 PM  

Lochsteppe: Fart And Smunny: Uzzah: Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals. ... Agnebergdidn't make mention of the bill, but said through the decriminalization of certain natural substances "we can make plant medicine way more appealing than fentanyl, and people can have safe access to this stuff."

I was ready to be outraged by an incumbent having his competitor arrested, but it doesn't sound like this guy is really a serious candidate.  It sounds like he's running a stunt and so I have a little more tolerance for the incumbent running a stunt, too.

Is a hippie sheriff really worse than an openly fascistic sheriff with a demonstrated propensity for abusing his station?

Really?

If the hippie won, how long would the rest of the department let him live?

If a department is corrupt, historically they don't take kindly to cleanup efforts.


So let's not even try...?
 
2022-10-21 8:11:31 PM  

HighOnCraic: austerity101: olorin604: Agneberg was presented with the warrant during the arrest and expressed concern that it did not contain a judge's signature.

"It's not a legitimate warrant," Agneberg said.

"You can take it up with the judge," Loya replied.

As the sheriff he is obviously the supreme authority in the county and dissent against his reign can not be tolerated.

"You can take it up with the judge."

Okay, what judge? Because no judge signed this warrant.

I hope they sue.

Yeah, that jumped out at me.  Curious to see how that works out...


I'm no law talking guy but I wouldn't think judges take kindly when cops start overstepping into their territory.
 
2022-10-21 8:11:49 PM  
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Obligatory.

/ Somehow I made it almost four decades without realizing so many sheriff's departments/offices were weird unaccountable corruption-magnet dictatorships, by design.
// Like I knew law enforcement was farked up but I didn't realize sheriffs were some special case of double-extra farked up on purpose.
 
2022-10-21 8:12:43 PM  
Whoa... I can smell the patchouli and weed stank wafting off that one dood through my computer screen.

I mean, I'm all for reigning in the cops and legalizing a safe supply but methinks this dood wouldn't make a very good sheriff in reality.

And unless the victim WANTS to meet with the perp... don't be jamming them in a room together to talk out the rape or mugging or attempted lynching, etc.

The guy just sounds like everyone should take some shrooms and chillax maaaaaaan.
 
2022-10-21 8:14:03 PM  
I assume there are no parking tickets, but if there are...wtf?  Maybe get your house in order before running for office.
 
2022-10-21 8:14:33 PM  

here to help: I mean, I'm all for reigning in the cops and legalizing a safe supply but methinks this dood wouldn't make a very good sheriff in reality.


I don't know, I think a pothead weirdo who probably won't do shiat to enforce shiat would be much better than the kind of fascist county dictator who arrests his political opponent.
 
2022-10-21 8:15:44 PM  

austerity101: Lochsteppe: Fart And Smunny: Uzzah: Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals. ... Agnebergdidn't make mention of the bill, but said through the decriminalization of certain natural substances "we can make plant medicine way more appealing than fentanyl, and people can have safe access to this stuff."

I was ready to be outraged by an incumbent having his competitor arrested, but it doesn't sound like this guy is really a serious candidate.  It sounds like he's running a stunt and so I have a little more tolerance for the incumbent running a stunt, too.

Is a hippie sheriff really worse than an openly fascistic sheriff with a demonstrated propensity for abusing his station?

Really?

If the hippie won, how long would the rest of the department let him live?

If a department is corrupt, historically they don't take kindly to cleanup efforts.

So let's not even try...?


I didn't say or suggest that. Just observing that this guy is taking a bigger risk than he may think, and he doesn't sound like he's prepared.
 
2022-10-21 8:16:48 PM  

Lochsteppe: If the hippie won, how long would the rest of the department let him live?

If a department is corrupt, historically they don't take kindly to cleanup efforts.


So let them win...? Historically, that doesn't end well when it comes to fascists.
 
2022-10-21 8:18:01 PM  

bighairyguy: The sheriff is a total Dick but I'm not crazy about the other guy either


I don't need to endorse the other candidate to think maybe he shouldn't be subject to Nazi bullshiat.
 
2022-10-21 8:19:40 PM  

Lochsteppe: austerity101: Lochsteppe: Fart And Smunny: Uzzah: Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals. ... Agnebergdidn't make mention of the bill, but said through the decriminalization of certain natural substances "we can make plant medicine way more appealing than fentanyl, and people can have safe access to this stuff."

I was ready to be outraged by an incumbent having his competitor arrested, but it doesn't sound like this guy is really a serious candidate.  It sounds like he's running a stunt and so I have a little more tolerance for the incumbent running a stunt, too.

Is a hippie sheriff really worse than an openly fascistic sheriff with a demonstrated propensity for abusing his station?

Really?

If the hippie won, how long would the rest of the department let him live?

If a department is corrupt, historically they don't take kindly to cleanup efforts.

So let's not even try...?

I didn't say or suggest that. Just observing that this guy is taking a bigger risk than he may think, and he doesn't sound like he's prepared.


Okay - but what you replied to as me questioning whether the hippie was really worse than the fascist.

Short-lived though he may be, I think we can agree, I hope, that the fascist is far worse.
 
2022-10-21 8:20:26 PM  
Oh and the pig is of course disgusting for pulling this crap but still... that other dood, no.
 
2022-10-21 8:22:37 PM  

Lochsteppe: austerity101: Lochsteppe: Fart And Smunny: Uzzah: Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals. ... Agnebergdidn't make mention of the bill, but said through the decriminalization of certain natural substances "we can make plant medicine way more appealing than fentanyl, and people can have safe access to this stuff."

I was ready to be outraged by an incumbent having his competitor arrested, but it doesn't sound like this guy is really a serious candidate.  It sounds like he's running a stunt and so I have a little more tolerance for the incumbent running a stunt, too.

Is a hippie sheriff really worse than an openly fascistic sheriff with a demonstrated propensity for abusing his station?

Really?

If the hippie won, how long would the rest of the department let him live?

If a department is corrupt, historically they don't take kindly to cleanup efforts.

So let's not even try...?

I didn't say or suggest that. Just observing that this guy is taking a bigger risk than he may think, and he doesn't sound like he's prepared.


I'm just not sure what it is that your comments are contributing. Especially since Fark is constantly telling people to run for office to effect change. This just feels like "No, not like that."
 
2022-10-21 8:22:47 PM  

Senseless_drivel: Agneberg said if elected he will view crime as a community problem, not an individual problem, and focus on healing more than punishment through restorative justice rituals.

"You get the victim and the perpetrator together in the same room and you learn why and how they crossed paths with each other," Agneberg said.

Pseudo hippy logic. I'm sure victims can't wait to sing kumbaya with criminals and the criminals are looking forward to make incriminating statements.


It should obviously be dependent on victim consent, but here:

https://www.c4rj.org/what-is-restorative-justice/success-data

While this site is obviously biased, their link to the study is sound and they are not presenting the data without context or inappropriately that I can see.

I have a problem with calling it "rituals," but that doesn't make the guy wrong in the larger  scope of things.
 
2022-10-21 8:23:21 PM  

here to help: Whoa... I can smell the patchouli and weed stank wafting off that one dood through my computer screen.

I mean, I'm all for reigning in the cops and legalizing a safe supply but methinks this dood wouldn't make a very good sheriff in reality.

And unless the victim WANTS to meet with the perp... don't be jamming them in a room together to talk out the rape or mugging or attempted lynching, etc.

The guy just sounds like everyone should take some shrooms and chillax maaaaaaan.


"I'm all for reigning in cops, but i'm also fine with sheriffs using unsigned warrants to make sure they're unopposed"
 
2022-10-21 8:24:52 PM  

ReaverZ: A-holes like them is why I shave


It's like a Harry's commercial that writes itself and requires no budget beyond some camera work, a little post-production ... and the producer's salary, of course.

KLEZ: You see these guys?

* camera racks focus over Klez' shoulder to highlight beardo assholes

KLEZ: (silently holds up prettily colored ergonomic handle and box of five-blade cartridges while intently spiking the lens)

* fade out
 
2022-10-21 8:25:30 PM  

Bloody William: I don't know, I think a pothead weirdo who probably won't do shiat to enforce shiat would be much better than the kind of fascist county dictator who arrests his political opponent.


Perhaps but dayum... that guy is acting like he's running for king of the neo hippies instead of sheriff.

Next he'll space on the date!

*finging noises*

oh wait... there they go...
 
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