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2022-10-20 10:56:43 AM  
BoJo? LOLOLOL
 
2022-10-20 11:07:26 AM  
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2022-10-20 11:37:01 AM  
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

/you will get fooled again
 
2022-10-20 11:37:23 AM  
I see the modern UK has entered the Gonzo politics chat....

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2022-10-20 11:38:50 AM  
Some Tory dork on the radio just said Boris is the only one of the last three PMs who has a mandate from the voters.  And the rules for choosing the successor require there to be at least two candidates, unless there's only one candidate, in which case there will only be one...
 
2022-10-20 11:40:13 AM  
It was just a dream. He's been PM the whole time.

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2022-10-20 11:41:17 AM  
The next British PM is going to be the last person to yell "NOT IT!!" after the question is raised...
 
2022-10-20 11:42:22 AM  
He did say he would be back ...
 
2022-10-20 11:43:50 AM  
At least Boris didn't kill the Queen.
 
2022-10-20 11:43:54 AM  
What about Larry?
 
2022-10-20 11:44:02 AM  
Pfft.

That hissing-balloon sound is the last remaining bits of Tory gov't legitimacy with the public pissing away into the wind.
 
2022-10-20 11:44:13 AM  
Sure, why not Boris? It's not like they're going to finally install a candidate who will bring stability and prosperity to the country. Determining who should be PM by who has the craziest hair isn't any worse than what they're doing now.
 
2022-10-20 11:44:19 AM  
I asked DALL-E to make GB wearing a clown wig. The hat was a nice touch, thank you DALL-E

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2022-10-20 11:45:17 AM  

macadamnut: Some Tory dork on the radio just said Boris is the only one of the last three PMs who has a mandate from the voters.  And the rules for choosing the successor require there to be at least two candidates, unless there's only one candidate, in which case there will only be one...


I'm trying to figure out how a prime minister chosen by a political party rather than through direct election could ever be said to have a mandate.
 
2022-10-20 11:45:24 AM  
Two thumbs up for Drew!
 
2022-10-20 11:45:29 AM  

Tax Boy: At least Boris didn't kill the Queen.


Even Chuck's glad mum doesn't have to watch this.
 
2022-10-20 11:45:30 AM  
I don't recall the UK Conservative Party stepping on their own dicks quite this much in the past 40 years. Granted, I was a child for most of Thatcher's lengthy stint as PM
 
2022-10-20 11:45:36 AM  
Still not entirely convinced that this wasn't his plan all along- not saying keyfabe with Truss so much, but knowing that there was going to be (more than his own) stupidity, the way it made his bad decisions look smaller, and his narcisistic type personality he was probably thinking that everyone was going to be for him to come back.
 
2022-10-20 11:45:44 AM  

macadamnut: Some Tory dork on the radio just said Boris is the only one of the last three PMs who has a mandate from the voters.  And the rules for choosing the successor require there to be at least two candidates, unless there's only one candidate, in which case there will only be one...


Yeah, the internal party system is MPs voted and whittle the candidates down to the final two, and then all party members get to vote for one of those two. If only one MP stands, or the others drop out leaving only one, then members don't get a vote because there is only one choice. When Cameron resigned it came down to Theresa May and one other MP, and that MP then pulled out so May became PM without a member vote. If the MPs now all agree on one candidate then they will become PM.
The party is talking about the final vote being done online, meaning it could happen in days rather than weeks, so members could get a vote.

/And yes, those Farkers claiming it's bad for just party members choosing a leader who doesn't have a mandate from the people must therefore agree that bringing back Boris is the right choice. He was voted in as PM by the public in 2019.
//But Sunak would also be a good choice. He'd reassure the markets. He stabbed Boris in the back but sometimes you need someone ruthless as leader.
 
2022-10-20 11:47:00 AM  
I'll never forget, way back when the Queen died and I was like "monarchies are silly," there was at least several Farkers that were like "I'd rather have what they have, considering the last guy we elected!" And meanwhile, they were measuring their prime minister against a head of lettuce.

To their credit, I do like how they ruthlessly throw their failed politicians under the bus instead of continuing to inexplicably support them.
 
2022-10-20 11:47:21 AM  
DRTFA, but do they have to go through all the Tories before they give Labour a chance?
 
2022-10-20 11:47:29 AM  
Please oh please oh please let BJ get back in. 🤞🤞🤞🤞

Will probably be Sunak, Hunt, or someone else  intelligent though.
 
2022-10-20 11:47:31 AM  
You know, I lamented the absence of Carter from these threads. Clearly I was just feeling nostalgic and was incredibly wrong
 
2022-10-20 11:47:45 AM  
If BoJo gets back in, Trump will definitely decide to run again.
 
2022-10-20 11:47:55 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I asked DALL-E to make GB wearing a clown wig. The hat was a nice touch, thank you DALL-E

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That looks a lot like Boris.
 
2022-10-20 11:47:56 AM  
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BoJo is back, baby!
 
2022-10-20 11:48:05 AM  
Also, King Ralph is on the throne (It might be a toilet, reports are still coming in).

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2022-10-20 11:48:22 AM  

GregInIndy: Pfft.

That hissing-balloon sound is the last remaining bits of Tory gov't legitimacy with the public pissing away into the wind.


Boris would be the most legitimate choice. He was the one voted in as PM in the last election. He's the one with a mandate from the voters.
 
2022-10-20 11:48:24 AM  

MattytheMouse: I'll never forget, way back when the Queen died and I was like "monarchies are silly," there was at least several Farkers that were like "I'd rather have what they have, considering the last guy we elected!" And meanwhile, they were measuring their prime minister against a head of lettuce.

To their credit, I do like how they ruthlessly throw their failed politicians under the bus instead of continuing to inexplicably support them.


They threw Boris under the bus, now he's trying to come back.

Of course Boris has literally no shame
 
2022-10-20 11:48:31 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: /And yes, those Farkers claiming it's bad for just party members choosing a leader who doesn't have a mandate from the people must therefore agree that bringing back Boris is the right choice. He was voted in as PM by the public in 2019.


Then he was removed for committing crimes and lying about it.
 
2022-10-20 11:49:32 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Carter Pewterschmidt: /And yes, those Farkers claiming it's bad for just party members choosing a leader who doesn't have a mandate from the people must therefore agree that bringing back Boris is the right choice. He was voted in as PM by the public in 2019.

Then he was removed for committing crimes and lying about it.


I'm the olden days those were proud Tory traditions. Not something you'd ever expect to be held responsible for
 
2022-10-20 11:50:31 AM  

TWX: macadamnut: Some Tory dork on the radio just said Boris is the only one of the last three PMs who has a mandate from the voters.  And the rules for choosing the successor require there to be at least two candidates, unless there's only one candidate, in which case there will only be one...

I'm trying to figure out how a prime minister chosen by a political party rather than through direct election could ever be said to have a mandate.


It's the way the UK system works. We elect MPs. Whichever party has the most MPs gets to govern. Whoever is the leader of that party becomes PM.

We the public didn't get a vote when Labour's Brown replaced Blair, or when Callaghan replaced Wilson. It's not just a Conservative thing.
 
2022-10-20 11:50:49 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: GregInIndy: Pfft.

That hissing-balloon sound is the last remaining bits of Tory gov't legitimacy with the public pissing away into the wind.

Boris would be the most legitimate choice. He was the one voted in as PM in the last election. He's the one with a mandate from the voters.


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2022-10-20 11:50:54 AM  
Couldn't Charles just appoint Lord North?
 
2022-10-20 11:51:06 AM  

Cormee: Please oh please oh please let BJ get back in. 🤞🤞🤞🤞

Will probably be Sunak, Hunt, or someone else  intelligent though.


Jeremy Hunt can never be PM, for a very obvious reason.  Not even the Tories dare to take on Big Rhyming Slang.
 
2022-10-20 11:52:23 AM  

Billy Bathsalt: DRTFA, but do they have to go through all the Tories before they give Labour a chance?


Well there's three hundred and sixty of them so if each one serves two days as PM....
 
2022-10-20 11:53:42 AM  

TWX: macadamnut: Some Tory dork on the radio just said Boris is the only one of the last three PMs who has a mandate from the voters.  And the rules for choosing the successor require there to be at least two candidates, unless there's only one candidate, in which case there will only be one...

I'm trying to figure out how a prime minister chosen by a political party rather than through direct election could ever be said to have a mandate.


Because that is how every PM becomes PM.  Not one general election vote ever has been cast for Prime Minister in the UK.  Not one.  When Rando McRandoson goes to vote, they vote for the person they want to represent their constituency.  Then, the leader of the party that receives control of Parliament becomes PM.  At no point did R McR vote for that leader.  They may know that if they vote for Stickhead Brown, the candidate for the Cornpone Party, and the Cornpone Party controls Parliament, that Teddy Two-Step, the Cornpone leader will be PM, but that is as far as it goes.
 
2022-10-20 11:53:47 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: GregInIndy: Pfft.

That hissing-balloon sound is the last remaining bits of Tory gov't legitimacy with the public pissing away into the wind.

Boris would be the most legitimate choice. He was the one voted in as PM in the last election. He's the one with a mandate from the voters.


The most legitimate choice would be to call an election rather than retread BoJo. These idiots however value their positions far more than the good of your nation for that.
 
2022-10-20 11:55:56 AM  

Gubbo: They threw Boris under the bus, now he's trying to come back.


Unfortunately, it was a Boris Bus.

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2022-10-20 11:57:22 AM  
I swear if they go back to Johnson I'm going to climax from Ridiculous Politics Overload, UK Edition.
What a shambles!
 
2022-10-20 11:58:31 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Carter Pewterschmidt: /And yes, those Farkers claiming it's bad for just party members choosing a leader who doesn't have a mandate from the people must therefore agree that bringing back Boris is the right choice. He was voted in as PM by the public in 2019.

Then he was removed for committing crimes and lying about it.


He had a beer in the office, and was issued a fine. When Labour's Kier Starmer had a party with beers and takeaway food lasting an hour and a half, and lied about it, but thanks to putting pressure on local Plod got away with it.

/And a few years ago the leader of the UKs Liberal party was accused of literally attempted murder.
 
2022-10-20 11:59:09 AM  
I'm available
 
2022-10-20 12:00:39 PM  
They asked an inert carbon rod to be PM but it wisely refused the offer.
 
2022-10-20 12:01:12 PM  

FarkinNortherner: Gubbo: They threw Boris under the bus, now he's trying to come back.

Unfortunately, it was a Boris Bus.

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Man, they're never going to get that ₤350,000,000 deposit to the NHS now.
 
2022-10-20 12:01:13 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: TWX: macadamnut: Some Tory dork on the radio just said Boris is the only one of the last three PMs who has a mandate from the voters.  And the rules for choosing the successor require there to be at least two candidates, unless there's only one candidate, in which case there will only be one...

I'm trying to figure out how a prime minister chosen by a political party rather than through direct election could ever be said to have a mandate.

It's the way the UK system works. We elect MPs. Whichever party has the most MPs gets to govern. Whoever is the leader of that party becomes PM.

We the public didn't get a vote when Labour's Brown replaced Blair, or when Callaghan replaced Wilson. It's not just a Conservative thing.


You think the problem is your party needs to select a new leader.

The actual problem is that your party has immediately and in short order destroyed it's own governing legitimacy with no way of recovering it.

The only way to get it back is to return to the ballot box and receive a mandate from the people. Not to attempt to time-travel back to 2019.
 
2022-10-20 12:01:41 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: HotWingConspiracy: Carter Pewterschmidt: /And yes, those Farkers claiming it's bad for just party members choosing a leader who doesn't have a mandate from the people must therefore agree that bringing back Boris is the right choice. He was voted in as PM by the public in 2019.

Then he was removed for committing crimes and lying about it.

He had a beer in the office, and was issued a fine. When Labour's Kier Starmer had a party with beers and takeaway food lasting an hour and a half, and lied about it, but thanks to putting pressure on local Plod got away with it.

/And a few years ago the leader of the UKs Liberal party was accused of literally attempted murder.


None of this changes that he committed crimes and repeatedly lied about it.

You don't somehow preserve a mandate after being forced to resign because you've committed crimes and repeatedly lied about it.
 
2022-10-20 12:03:39 PM  
One of the funniest videos ever about choosing a PM.

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2022-10-20 12:03:47 PM  

phalamir: TWX: macadamnut: Some Tory dork on the radio just said Boris is the only one of the last three PMs who has a mandate from the voters.  And the rules for choosing the successor require there to be at least two candidates, unless there's only one candidate, in which case there will only be one...

I'm trying to figure out how a prime minister chosen by a political party rather than through direct election could ever be said to have a mandate.

Because that is how every PM becomes PM.  Not one general election vote ever has been cast for Prime Minister in the UK.  Not one.  When Rando McRandoson goes to vote, they vote for the person they want to represent their constituency.  Then, the leader of the party that receives control of Parliament becomes PM.  At no point did R McR vote for that leader.  They may know that if they vote for Stickhead Brown, the candidate for the Cornpone Party, and the Cornpone Party controls Parliament, that Teddy Two-Step, the Cornpone leader will be PM, but that is as far as it goes.


Similar: We don't vote for the Speaker of the House or President Pro Tem of the Senate in the US, the House and Senate do.  Hell, we don't even vote for the President, we vote for electors, they select the President.

So, while this may be a dumb system, it's our dumb system as well.
 
2022-10-20 12:04:18 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: GregInIndy: Pfft.

That hissing-balloon sound is the last remaining bits of Tory gov't legitimacy with the public pissing away into the wind.

Boris would be the most legitimate choice. He was the one voted in as PM in the last election. He's the one with a mandate from the voters.


Subsequent to his election, he was exposed as a thoroughly corrupt actual criminal who accepted money from Russians, repaid his supporters with government contracts, peerages and offices, and literally removed power from the ministerial office investigating him for fraud. His mandate is illegitimate.
 
2022-10-20 12:05:26 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: HotWingConspiracy: Carter Pewterschmidt: /And yes, those Farkers claiming it's bad for just party members choosing a leader who doesn't have a mandate from the people must therefore agree that bringing back Boris is the right choice. He was voted in as PM by the public in 2019.

Then he was removed for committing crimes and lying about it.

He had a beer in the office, and was issued a fine. When Labour's Kier Starmer had a party with beers and takeaway food lasting an hour and a half, and lied about it, but thanks to putting pressure on local Plod got away with it.

/And a few years ago the leader of the UKs Liberal party was accused of literally attempted murder.


He laughed about having a serial sexual assaulter in his cabinet.
 
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