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hubiestubert [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-20 11:30:15 AM  
It's akin to "The Deep State."

There is no "Deep State." It's just the normal functions of government grinding on as the various departments fulfill their roles as regulatory and governing bodies. It's just how laws operate, and continue to operate, despite whoever is in office.

The "Cancel Culture" is similar. It's a boogeyman to invoke when folks realize how much bullsh*t you're spinning. When you get caught being an idjit, and get called on it. And how DARE The Little People notice. How DARE they withhold their dollars and demand change? As much as The Deep State is just hating the fact that governments run on laws, The Cancel Culture is a hate on for the society for moving forward and past bigotry. And anyone who uses either term, chances are, they're doing so because they got caught doing something, and are shocked that they are actually going to be held responsible for their actions, and they NEED a boogeyman, because the butcher's bill is coming due.
 
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2022-10-20 11:37:27 AM  
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/always wins - never ties - Tic Tac Toe
 
theflinx
2022-10-20 11:40:12 AM  
cancel culture=salem witch hunts=mcarthyism
 
Qellaqan
2022-10-20 11:40:50 AM  

hubiestubert: It's akin to "The Deep State."

There is no "Deep State." It's just the normal functions of government grinding on as the various departments fulfill their roles as regulatory and governing bodies. It's just how laws operate, and continue to operate, despite whoever is in office.

The "Cancel Culture" is similar. It's a boogeyman to invoke when folks realize how much bullsh*t you're spinning. When you get caught being an idjit, and get called on it. And how DARE The Little People notice. How DARE they withhold their dollars and demand change? As much as The Deep State is just hating the fact that governments run on laws, The Cancel Culture is a hate on for the society for moving forward and past bigotry. And anyone who uses either term, chances are, they're doing so because they got caught doing something, and are shocked that they are actually going to be held responsible for their actions, and they NEED a boogeyman, because the butcher's bill is coming due.


See also "woke".

One of my coworkers had a low-grade tantrum about another coworker wearing green Birkenstocks and that meaning he was woke. He tried to frame it as a joke, but it was pretty obvious he meant what he said.

/sorry, haven't had my coffee yet, so just ignore me
 
Jeebus Saves
2022-10-20 11:40:50 AM  
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What accountability looks like

/Have you ever tried playing hopscotch in a spacesuit? It's quite the experience
 
BumpInTheNight [OhFark]
2022-10-20 11:43:26 AM  
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Shrodinger's Douchebags are not getting the awkward free passes they used to, people are not tolerating that one asshole in the room anymore.  And that's a good thing.
 
Lvl 19 bureaucrat
2022-10-20 11:46:44 AM  
I like the going after rapists bit, but could we please leave comedians alone? (unless they're rapists of course)
 
blondambition [OhFark]
2022-10-20 11:47:10 AM  
"My partner has a fancy name for 'em. Psychopaths. I just call 'em screwups."

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Fireproof [OhFark]
2022-10-20 11:48:52 AM  

BumpInTheNight: [Fark user image 850x850]


Shrodinger's Douchebags are not getting the awkward free passes they used to, people are not tolerating that one asshole in the room anymore.  And that's a good thing.


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vevolis
2022-10-20 11:49:40 AM  
Graham Norton has a good point. Kind of a like a mic drop moment, but one where the mic was dropped and its center of mass became so great that it began to collapse upon itself and started sucking in the entirety of microphones on planet earth and reduced them to a singularity, thereby negating all future mic drop moments.
 
sirrerun
2022-10-20 11:55:29 AM  
Why are we listening to what an old, white man has to say?

/s
 
Bslim
2022-10-20 11:58:14 AM  
"It must be very hard to be a man of a certain age who's been able to say whatever he likes for years, and now suddenly there's some accountability," Norton said after naming Cleese. "It's free speech, but not consequence-free."


Nicely compressed, it's sums up all the nonsense.
 
WhippingBoi
2022-10-20 12:02:52 PM  
We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.
 
OtherLittleGuy [BareFark]
2022-10-20 12:04:36 PM  

Fireproof: BumpInTheNight: [Fark user image 850x850]


Shrodinger's Douchebags are not getting the awkward free passes they used to, people are not tolerating that one asshole in the room anymore.  And that's a good thing.

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To be blunt, it's also:

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FAFO
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 12:07:08 PM  

WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.


Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?
 
T.rex
2022-10-20 12:14:07 PM  
He's absolutely right... however, i think it provokes a mentality of going too far with the cancel.... and the sheer intent and motivation of a cancel.

We've become a society of framing EVERY news story and happenstance against our own personal feelings, and will attack the people involved in those stories, just because we don't like them, or they disagree on some minor unrelated topic.       Its normal for people to sweep through decades old tweets, LOOKING for some incriminating evidence.    You don't even KNOW that they tweeted something bad, but you are looking for it.. looking for some reason to get that person cancelled.

We are humans...  If you look for someone's failures... you will find them.  I don't care if its Mother Teresa or Osama Bin Laden.   

We have all had bad singular moments in time.  Judging someone for the rest of their life for some transgression that happened in 3 seconds... kinda not fair..... (depending on what it was, of course).
 
WhippingBoi
2022-10-20 12:15:37 PM  

TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?


For the record, I didn't use the term "object".

To answer the spirit of your question, as an example:

Rule XVIXX: From this point forward, thou shalt refer to all people of Latin American descent as "Latinx".
 
BumpInTheNight [OhFark]
2022-10-20 12:17:39 PM  

T.rex: We have all had bad singular moments in time. Judging someone for the rest of their life for some transgression that happened in 3 seconds... kinda not fair..... (depending on what it was, of course).


That argument just doesn't work, at least not with the judge I had presiding over my lack of child support back payments.
 
whidbey
2022-10-20 12:17:46 PM  
I love how CNN is treating this with kid gloves, like talking to some  out of touch old lady who's never heard of the term.

F*ck the "liberal media."
 
Jeebus Saves
2022-10-20 12:18:17 PM  

TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?


Rules made on a whim which seem dependent on who made the remark, not the actual content or intent of what was said.

/boloney!
 
whidbey
2022-10-20 12:23:08 PM  

WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.


So keep the Republicans out of power.  Problem solved.
 
cocozilla
2022-10-20 12:23:31 PM  

Lvl 19 bureaucrat: I like the going after rapists bit, but could we please leave comedians alone? (unless they're rapists of course)


Why???

Why comedians...or should I say "comedians"....what in the world makes anyone think that because they make jokes they are above criticism?
 
Lumbar Puncture
2022-10-20 12:26:27 PM  

WhippingBoi: people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value


Which people?
 
Mangoose [TotalFark]
2022-10-20 12:28:25 PM  
I suppose, but "cancel culture" has always been a thing. To me, people who complain about cancel culture are really just complaining about how they aren't the ones whose sensibilities are deciding who gets cancelled anymore.
 
mjbok
2022-10-20 12:28:34 PM  

cocozilla: Why???

Why comedians...or should I say "comedians"....what in the world makes anyone think that because they make jokes they are above criticism?


Should authors by on the list for things they write in fiction?  What about actors?  Should they be judged for things they say while in character?
 
Fart And Smunny [BareFark]
2022-10-20 12:31:27 PM  

cocozilla: Lvl 19 bureaucrat: I like the going after rapists bit, but could we please leave comedians alone? (unless they're rapists of course)

Why???

Why comedians...or should I say "comedians"....what in the world makes anyone think that because they make jokes they are above criticism?


I think there's a lot of daylight between criticism of comedy and the death and other threats that Norton received. The first is reasonable. The latter is too far.

Just saying.
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 12:40:43 PM  

WhippingBoi: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

For the record, I didn't use the term "object".

To answer the spirit of your question, as an example:

Rule XVIXX: From this point forward, thou shalt refer to all people of Latin American descent as "Latinx".


Sooooo..... who's faced anything but a mild scolding on social media for not following this rule?
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 12:41:59 PM  

Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

Rules made on a whim which seem dependent on who made the remark, not the actual content or intent of what was said.


Who is making these "rules" exactly? What are the penalties for not following these rules?
 
Jeebus Saves
2022-10-20 12:46:11 PM  

TDWCom29: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

Rules made on a whim which seem dependent on who made the remark, not the actual content or intent of what was said.

Who is making these "rules" exactly? What are the penalties for not following these rules?


Little brigades of perpetually outraged twitter warriors and "journalists" who need a story.  Penalties are whatever the mob decides.  Are you new, or do you just not pay attention?
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 12:49:10 PM  

Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

Rules made on a whim which seem dependent on who made the remark, not the actual content or intent of what was said.

Who is making these "rules" exactly? What are the penalties for not following these rules?

Little brigades of perpetually outraged twitter warriors and "journalists" who need a story.  Penalties are whatever the mob decides.  Are you new, or do you just not pay attention?


So the crux is you're mad at people with no power being mean on social media with pretty much no other consequences. You're truly a brave person
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 12:50:29 PM  

TDWCom29: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

Rules made on a whim which seem dependent on who made the remark, not the actual content or intent of what was said.

Who is making these "rules" exactly? What are the penalties for not following these rules?

Little brigades of perpetually outraged twitter warriors and "journalists" who need a story.  Penalties are whatever the mob decides.  Are you new, or do you just not pay attention?

So the crux is you're mad at people with no power being mean on social media with pretty much no other consequences. You're truly a brave person


Or, if there are other consequences you can't really say "But why?"
 
WhippingBoi
2022-10-20 12:51:27 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: WhippingBoi: people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value

Which people?


Like I said, anyone trying to move up the power hierarchy through tyrannical means not based on competence, contribution, or actual justice.

To continue my previous comment, for example, the mediocre, ineffectual school official who demands that "Latinx" be used on all formal (and informal) correspondence, lest there be disciplinary action levied against the offender; the same disciplinary action that will be levied on the "offender" if they even question or oppose this policy.
 
Jeebus Saves
2022-10-20 12:52:30 PM  

TDWCom29: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

Rules made on a whim which seem dependent on who made the remark, not the actual content or intent of what was said.

Who is making these "rules" exactly? What are the penalties for not following these rules?

Little brigades of perpetually outraged twitter warriors and "journalists" who need a story.  Penalties are whatever the mob decides.  Are you new, or do you just not pay attention?

So the crux is you're mad at people with no power being mean on social media with pretty much no other consequences. You're truly a brave person


Yes.  You nailed it.
 
WhippingBoi
2022-10-20 12:53:06 PM  

TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

For the record, I didn't use the term "object".

To answer the spirit of your question, as an example:

Rule XVIXX: From this point forward, thou shalt refer to all people of Latin American descent as "Latinx".

Sooooo..... who's faced anything but a mild scolding on social media for not following this rule?


Ah, I knew you'd move the goalposts. You're nothing if not pathetically predictable.
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 12:53:31 PM  

WhippingBoi: Lumbar Puncture: WhippingBoi: people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value

Which people?

Like I said, anyone trying to move up the power hierarchy through tyrannical means not based on competence, contribution, or actual justice.

To continue my previous comment, for example, the mediocre, ineffectual school official who demands that "Latinx" be used on all formal (and informal) correspondence, lest there be disciplinary action levied against the offender; the same disciplinary action that will be levied on the "offender" if they even question or oppose this policy.


Hahahahaha

Okay MLK, some rando school official might write up an employee. Cancel culture sure is scary
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 12:54:49 PM  

WhippingBoi: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

For the record, I didn't use the term "object".

To answer the spirit of your question, as an example:

Rule XVIXX: From this point forward, thou shalt refer to all people of Latin American descent as "Latinx".

Sooooo..... who's faced anything but a mild scolding on social media for not following this rule?

Ah, I knew you'd move the goalposts. You're nothing if not pathetically predictable.


So no one. Just as I thought

Keep fighting the totally real thing that is "cancel culture" and the people forcing other people to use Latinx or be sent to the salt mines
 
Lvl 19 bureaucrat
2022-10-20 12:54:55 PM  

cocozilla: Lvl 19 bureaucrat: I like the going after rapists bit, but could we please leave comedians alone? (unless they're rapists of course)

Why???

Why comedians...or should I say "comedians"....what in the world makes anyone think that because they make jokes they are above criticism?


cause if you get really pissed at someone for telling jokes it makes you a fascist douche-bag.

sacred-clowns are necessary to an open, healthy, and liberal society (especially one seeking to self-critique and grow). you are by no means under any obligation to consume comedy that you find offensive, but if you're the one going after the jester rest assured, you are the baddie.
 
Lumbar Puncture
2022-10-20 1:03:12 PM  

WhippingBoi: Lumbar Puncture: WhippingBoi: people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value

Which people?

Like I said, anyone trying to move up the power hierarchy through tyrannical means not based on competence, contribution, or actual justice.

To continue my previous comment, for example, the mediocre, ineffectual school official who demands that "Latinx" be used on all formal (and informal) correspondence, lest there be disciplinary action levied against the offender; the same disciplinary action that will be levied on the "offender" if they even question or oppose this policy.


That seems to be a contradiction within itself. If they're not already up in the power hierarchy then they don't have the power to establish or enforce societal rules.

See also, an ineffectual school official who apparently is also super effective?

Maybe you can clarify, which people are not in the power hierarchy that are 'bypassing the correct way' to enter it? Who is in the power hierarchy and why can't they use their competence, contributions and actual justice to effectively control what societal norms exist?
 
WhippingBoi
2022-10-20 1:04:32 PM  

TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: Lumbar Puncture: WhippingBoi: people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value

Which people?

Like I said, anyone trying to move up the power hierarchy through tyrannical means not based on competence, contribution, or actual justice.

To continue my previous comment, for example, the mediocre, ineffectual school official who demands that "Latinx" be used on all formal (and informal) correspondence, lest there be disciplinary action levied against the offender; the same disciplinary action that will be levied on the "offender" if they even question or oppose this policy.

Hahahahaha

Okay MLK, some rando school official might write up an employee. Cancel culture sure is scary


So we've gone from "there's no such thing as cancel culture" to "well, maybe there is such a thing, but it's no big deal, so get over it".

What's next? "Well, maybe the consequences were a bit harsh this time, but I'm sure they've done something else to deserve it"?
 
Lvl 19 bureaucrat
2022-10-20 1:05:05 PM  

T.rex: He's absolutely right... however, i think it provokes a mentality of going too far with the cancel.... and the sheer intent and motivation of a cancel.

We've become a society of framing EVERY news story and happenstance against our own personal feelings, and will attack the people involved in those stories, just because we don't like them, or they disagree on some minor unrelated topic.       Its normal for people to sweep through decades old tweets, LOOKING for some incriminating evidence.    You don't even KNOW that they tweeted something bad, but you are looking for it.. looking for some reason to get that person cancelled.

We are humans...  If you look for someone's failures... you will find them.  I don't care if its Mother Teresa or Osama Bin Laden.   

We have all had bad singular moments in time.  Judging someone for the rest of their life for some transgression that happened in 3 seconds... kinda not fair..... (depending on what it was, of course).



It's an interesting time for sure. We're seeing a number of competing "new norms" being pushed by people disenchanted by the old more liberal cultural moral standards of the late 20/early 21st century. It's reminiscent of previous "moral panics" we've had in American society previously.

/David Byrne is my fashion guru
 
Lvl 19 bureaucrat
2022-10-20 1:09:20 PM  

Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

Rules made on a whim which seem dependent on who made the remark, not the actual content or intent of what was said.

Who is making these "rules" exactly? What are the penalties for not following these rules?

Little brigades of perpetually outraged twitter warriors and "journalists" who need a story.  Penalties are whatever the mob decides.  Are you new, or do you just not pay attention?


sorta seeing a creep into some HR departments - which may have real consequences for some - but yeah it's mostly moral outrage at this point.

/completed a marathon while eating a sandwich
 
GameSprocket
2022-10-20 1:15:04 PM  
I think there actually is something going on. I wouldn't call it "cancel culture" as much as "judgment culture". I have no problem with people catching hell for saying or doing something hateful, but we seem to also data mine looking for something that a celebrity did years in the past and demand that they be publicly humiliated for it.

There seems to be a lot of people online who derive a lot of their self-worth by finding way in which they are morally superior to everyone else. There is no point in demanding accountability without some mechanism for forgiveness.
 
WhippingBoi
2022-10-20 1:35:34 PM  
Here's a good example of "consequence" culture.

Because the appropriate consequence for a highly regarded teacher who merely asked whether or not an Ivy League University should have the authority to dictate what its students should or should not wear on Halloween is a histrionic protest to demand that teacher be fired.

Nothing worrisome about this at all, no-siree.

Yale teacher steps down after email comment
Youtube WqsjqmOKhzM
 
Jeebus Saves
2022-10-20 1:37:46 PM  

Lvl 19 bureaucrat: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: Jeebus Saves: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: We're living in a neo-puritan society where any deviation from, or questioning of, societal rules recently established (seemingly at whim) by people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value is at best with met with scorn, disdain, and "othering".

To even suggest that these "rules" should be examined, discussed, or questioned is equivalent to (or worse) than "breaking" the "rules themselves.

Okay, let's discuss. Which of these "rules" do you object to?

Rules made on a whim which seem dependent on who made the remark, not the actual content or intent of what was said.

Who is making these "rules" exactly? What are the penalties for not following these rules?

Little brigades of perpetually outraged twitter warriors and "journalists" who need a story.  Penalties are whatever the mob decides.  Are you new, or do you just not pay attention?

sorta seeing a creep into some HR departments - which may have real consequences for some - but yeah it's mostly moral outrage at this point.


It's not though.  People plaster names of "offenders" online and encourage others to go after them.

Here's a pretty good article about one case

The other janitor, Mr. Patenaude, who was not working at the time of the incident, left his job at Smith not long after Ms. Kanoute posted his photograph on social media, accusing him of "racist cowardly acts."

The food services director called the next morning. "Jackie," he said, "you're on Facebook." She found that Ms. Kanoute had posted her photograph, name and email,

There's cancel culture for you.  That's the impact of taking a persons story on FB as fact.  The school administrators and HR departments are pushed into these situations.
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 1:47:40 PM  

WhippingBoi: TDWCom29: WhippingBoi: Lumbar Puncture: WhippingBoi: people desperately trying to "move up" the power hierarchy without providing anything of value

Which people?

Like I said, anyone trying to move up the power hierarchy through tyrannical means not based on competence, contribution, or actual justice.

To continue my previous comment, for example, the mediocre, ineffectual school official who demands that "Latinx" be used on all formal (and informal) correspondence, lest there be disciplinary action levied against the offender; the same disciplinary action that will be levied on the "offender" if they even question or oppose this policy.

Hahahahaha

Okay MLK, some rando school official might write up an employee. Cancel culture sure is scary

So we've gone from "there's no such thing as cancel culture" to "well, maybe there is such a thing, but it's no big deal, so get over it".

What's next? "Well, maybe the consequences were a bit harsh this time, but I'm sure they've done something else to deserve it"?


I think you misunderstand (huge surprise). Cancel culture as a big scary thing doesn't exist. People being mean on social media is a thing and you cowards have labeled it "cancel culture", so that exists. Even when faced with a "Well what bad things have happened to anyone?" your response is either "Goalpost mover!", "Uuuuh, I dunno....things", or "an incredibly low level gov't employee did a weird power flex that probably effected no one"

I mean, unless you agree with what Mel Gibson and Kramer said (as examples) and you can't believe they didn't work for a long time. Wouldn't shock me
 
recondite cetacean
2022-10-20 1:53:29 PM  
Republicans are excellent at boiling down issues to a nugget of indignation.

Consequences become censorship
Gun violence is "shall not be infringed"
Gay marriage is a sincerely held religious belief
Most anything else is "why should i care?"

It's powerful, and impossible to argue against.
 
mekkab [TotalFark]
2022-10-20 1:53:42 PM  

WhippingBoi: Here's a good example of "consequence" culture.

Because the appropriate consequence for a highly regarded teacher who merely asked whether or not an Ivy League University should have the authority to dictate what its students should or should not wear on Halloween is a histrionic protest to demand that teacher be fired.

Nothing worrisome about this at all, no-siree.

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College kids "stunting" ? Color me badd shocked.

/still cuts crusts off sandwiches
 
Bslim
2022-10-20 1:55:04 PM  

GameSprocket: I think there actually is something going on. I wouldn't call it "cancel culture" as much as "judgment culture". I have no problem with people catching hell for saying or doing something hateful, but we seem to also data mine looking for something that a celebrity did years in the past and demand that they be publicly humiliated for it.

There seems to be a lot of people online who derive a lot of their self-worth by finding way in which they are morally superior to everyone else. There is no point in demanding accountability without some mechanism for forgiveness.


Who, who's forcing you to judge anyone? Who's demanding "demanding" accountability?

/Nerts!
 
gunga galunga [TotalFark]
2022-10-20 1:56:20 PM  
Cancel culture = "My favorite comedian, who just signed a $20 million deal, is receiving negligible criticsm from the group of marganilized people he targeted in his last two specials."
 
TDWCom29
2022-10-20 1:57:27 PM  

mekkab: WhippingBoi: Here's a good example of "consequence" culture.

Because the appropriate consequence for a highly regarded teacher who merely asked whether or not an Ivy League University should have the authority to dictate what its students should or should not wear on Halloween is a histrionic protest to demand that teacher be fired.

Nothing worrisome about this at all, no-siree.

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College kids "stunting" ? Color me badd shocked.


Exactly, college kids protesting things they don't like is a super-new thing that's never happened

/but that's just my opinion, man
 
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