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2022-10-20 10:13:51 AM  
Difficulty: By taking the drama to Facebook....
 
2022-10-20 10:50:45 AM  
I had a friend on Gen Hosp.
I would wager telenovas don't die
 
2022-10-20 11:11:28 AM  
Are soap operas even something for the Zoomers to kill? I thought the only people who watch them are retirees and stay-at-home moms.
 
2022-10-20 11:12:06 AM  
I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.


/CSB
 
2022-10-20 11:14:19 AM  
Sick days as a kid back in the '50s weren't all that great, because we only had three TV channels and they were all soaps all day.
 
2022-10-20 11:14:39 AM  
...soapera?
 
2022-10-20 11:15:15 AM  
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2022-10-20 11:18:16 AM  
They went online streaming.

And don't freaking tell me "Grey's Anatomy" and the rest of Shondaland isn't soaps.
 
2022-10-20 11:20:42 AM  

Somaticasual: Difficulty: By taking the drama to Facebook....


i have 2 gen z kids and they abhor FB.
 
2022-10-20 11:22:04 AM  
How could Zoomers kill something that isn't even remotely aimed at their demographic?

If anyone is killing them it is few Millennial viewers to replace the dying Silent/Boomers.
 
2022-10-20 11:25:44 AM  

severedtoe: Somaticasual: Difficulty: By taking the drama to Facebook....

i have 2 gen z kids and they abhor FB.


Consider yourself lucky...

//granted,I think TikTok may be the Z's retreat....
 
2022-10-20 11:27:42 AM  
Oh they're still thriving, they're just called Marvel and Star Wars.
 
2022-10-20 11:28:45 AM  

vudukungfu: I had a friend on Gen Hosp.
I would wager telenovas don't die


Indeed.

We can learn about the real meaning of "must-see-TV" from our Mexican friends.

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I am just getting over my Un Gancho Al Corazon addiction.  There was also a great one with kind of a supernatural theme with creepy albino-haired demon child that I can't remember the name of.


Passionskind of replicated it with their "Timmy" subplot.

Passions - Timmy comes to life
Youtube iPXutZmLsmA
 
2022-10-20 11:32:59 AM  
All of those Real Housewives type shows are soap operas.
 
2022-10-20 11:34:18 AM  
Explain how the existence of soap operas is a detriment to society.
 
2022-10-20 11:37:36 AM  
OtherLittleGuy:And don't freaking tell me "Grey's Anatomy" and the rest of Shondaland isn't soaps.

Oof. Mrs. Guilty spent the last year and change watching all 18 seasons of that.
I swear you can make a drinking game out of the ethics violations in every damned episode.
 
2022-10-20 11:38:30 AM  

stuhayes2010: I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.


I started watching General Hospital in the early 80s because of a girlfriend, and was absolutely amazed at the cartoonish absurdity of the plots. Before then I had always assumed that soaps were serious dramas about relationships and diseases, but in the few months I watched GH there was a plot about a stolen piece of experimental tech called the Prometheus Device, that was some sort of weather controller (I think) and a Russian spy searching for it who had been surgically altered to look just like a woman's husband, but with slicked-down hair instead of a goatee to indicate that he was "the bad one." It was amazingly silly all around, and I still remember how slowly the plots progressed, especially for a show that was on for five hours every week.
 
2022-10-20 11:47:10 AM  
In college in the 90's, my girlfriend and our roommate had a break around the same to every day and we would watch Days of our Lives to make fun of it. But that's it.
 
2022-10-20 11:51:19 AM  

natazha: Sick days as a kid back in the '50s weren't all that great, because we only had three TV channels and they were all soaps all day.


Every time I see The Price is Right it reminds me of sick days in elementary school.
 
2022-10-20 11:54:57 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: stuhayes2010: I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.

I started watching General Hospital in the early 80s because of a girlfriend, and was absolutely amazed at the cartoonish absurdity of the plots. Before then I had always assumed that soaps were serious dramas about relationships and diseases, but in the few months I watched GH there was a plot about a stolen piece of experimental tech called the Prometheus Device Ice Princess, that was some sort of weather controller (I think) and a Russian spy searching for it who had been surgically altered to look just like a woman's husband, but with slicked-down hair instead of a goatee to indicate that he was "the bad one." It was amazingly silly all around, and I still remember how slowly the plots progressed, especially for a show that was on for five hours every week.


Russian spy? There's the DVX Bad Guys and the WSB Good Guys.

Anyways, that plot line was Tom Baker Doctor-level Cheesy Fun.
 
2022-10-20 12:01:22 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: stuhayes2010: I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.

I started watching General Hospital in the early 80s because of a girlfriend, and was absolutely amazed at the cartoonish absurdity of the plots. Before then I had always assumed that soaps were serious dramas about relationships and diseases, but in the few months I watched GH there was a plot about a stolen piece of experimental tech called the Prometheus Device, that was some sort of weather controller (I think) and a Russian spy searching for it who had been surgically altered to look just like a woman's husband, but with slicked-down hair instead of a goatee to indicate that he was "the bad one." It was amazingly silly all around, and I still remember how slowly the plots progressed, especially for a show that was on for five hours every week.


IIRC, that  plotline started in the wake of the whole Luke and Laura relationship and wedding....viewership was at an all-time high and then the writers really took things in a silly direction.
 
2022-10-20 12:24:52 PM  

Arkanaut: Are soap operas even something for the Zoomers to kill? I thought the only people who watch them are retirees and stay-at-home moms.


Being a semi responsible adult, I thought daytime tv switched over to Judge Judy and infomercials back in the aughts and that soaps died an unholy death then.

Also, they were replaced with comic book shows and reality tv to fill the same niche.
 
2022-10-20 12:29:27 PM  
Maybe because soap opera plots have out-competed each other into oblivion by moving to ideas that further and further strain credulity before its audience can't cross the suspension of disbelief to let themselves enjoy the story.
 
2022-10-20 12:32:06 PM  

brap: vudukungfu: I had a friend on Gen Hosp.
I would wager telenovas don't die

Indeed.

We can learn about the real meaning of "must-see-TV" from our Mexican friends.

[64.media.tumblr.com image 400x300]

I am just getting over my Un Gancho Al Corazon addiction.  There was also a great one with kind of a supernatural theme with creepy albino-haired demon child that I can't remember the name of.


Passionskind of replicated it with their "Timmy" subplot.

[YouTube video: Passions - Timmy comes to life]


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2022-10-20 12:39:27 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: They went online streaming.

And don't freaking tell me "Grey's Anatomy" and the rest of Shondaland isn't soaps.


Wasn't Star Trek TNG a soap?  How many of the later series adopted that?

On the other hand, aren't soaps the only traditional (i.e. 20th century) TV format with any kind continuity?  So pretty much anything with continuity and authors who care about the relationship between characters is going to greatly resemble a soap.
 
2022-10-20 12:41:23 PM  
vudukungfu: I had a friend on Gen Hosp.
I would wager telenovas don't die

OOH - OOH - who was your friend (if that's cool to ask)?!

It's the only show I watch & I binge it on Hulu during the weekend. I miss watching the whole AMC, OLTL and GH lineup. :-(
 
2022-10-20 12:42:50 PM  

Arkanaut: Are soap operas even something for the Zoomers to kill? I thought the only people who watch them are retirees and stay-at-home moms.


No, lots of us working people binge it on the weekends. (¬_¬)
 
2022-10-20 12:42:58 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Barricaded Gunman: stuhayes2010: I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.

I started watching General Hospital in the early 80s because of a girlfriend, and was absolutely amazed at the cartoonish absurdity of the plots. Before then I had always assumed that soaps were serious dramas about relationships and diseases, but in the few months I watched GH there was a plot about a stolen piece of experimental tech called the Prometheus Device Ice Princess, that was some sort of weather controller (I think) and a Russian spy searching for it who had been surgically altered to look just like a woman's husband, but with slicked-down hair instead of a goatee to indicate that he was "the bad one." It was amazingly silly all around, and I still remember how slowly the plots progressed, especially for a show that was on for five hours every week.

Russian spy? There's the DVX Bad Guys and the WSB Good Guys.

Anyways, that plot line was Tom Baker Doctor-level Cheesy Fun.


Goddammit, I'm not going any further down the rabbit hole of a 40 year old soap opera, but you're correct that it was "DVX Bad Guys and the WSB Good Guys" and not the Russians.

The Prometheus Disk (not "Device" as I previously stated) was a weapon, and the Ice Princess was an enormous diamond that was somehow associated with it. I refuse to do any more reading on this.
 
2022-10-20 12:45:37 PM  
people still have cable?
 
2022-10-20 12:45:59 PM  

brap: vudukungfu: I had a friend on Gen Hosp.
I would wager telenovas don't die

Indeed.

We can learn about the real meaning of "must-see-TV" from our Mexican friends.

[64.media.tumblr.com image 400x300] [View Full Size image _x_]

I am just getting over my Un Gancho Al Corazon addiction.  There was also a great one with kind of a supernatural theme with creepy albino-haired demon child that I can't remember the name of.


Passionskind of replicated it with their "Timmy" subplot.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/iPXutZmLsmA]


Tell me you never watched "Port Charles" without telling me you never watched "Port Charles"

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/PortCharles
 
2022-10-20 12:49:13 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: OtherLittleGuy: Barricaded Gunman: stuhayes2010: I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.

I started watching General Hospital in the early 80s because of a girlfriend, and was absolutely amazed at the cartoonish absurdity of the plots. Before then I had always assumed that soaps were serious dramas about relationships and diseases, but in the few months I watched GH there was a plot about a stolen piece of experimental tech called the Prometheus Device Ice Princess, that was some sort of weather controller (I think) and a Russian spy searching for it who had been surgically altered to look just like a woman's husband, but with slicked-down hair instead of a goatee to indicate that he was "the bad one." It was amazingly silly all around, and I still remember how slowly the plots progressed, especially for a show that was on for five hours every week.

Russian spy? There's the DVX Bad Guys and the WSB Good Guys.

Anyways, that plot line was Tom Baker Doctor-level Cheesy Fun.

Goddammit, I'm not going any further down the rabbit hole of a 40 year old soap opera, but you're correct that it was "DVX Bad Guys and the WSB Good Guys" and not the Russians.

The Prometheus Disk (not "Device" as I previously stated) was a weapon, and the Ice Princess was an enormous diamond that was somehow associated with it. I refuse to do any more reading on this.


Ah, the entrance of Helena Cassadine. If I am not mistaken, that was when they got Elizabeth freaking Taylor to play her.
 
2022-10-20 12:49:17 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: They went online streaming.

And don't freaking tell me "Grey's Anatomy" and the rest of Shondaland isn't soaps.


Grey's was pretty good back in the day I binge watched the first 13 seasons then in went downhill.

Can they do away with playing those sappy songs? gets real confusing when trying to understand what's happening with the closed captioning.

Also are there any really straight people on the show? Seems like everybody hooking up in the supply rooms.
 
2022-10-20 12:52:37 PM  

SMB2811: Explain how the existence of soap operas is a detriment to society.


Body dysmorphia?

That's what they said about Insta and TickyTocky
 
2022-10-20 12:53:45 PM  

doctorguilty: I swear you can make a drinking game out of the ethics violations in every damned episode.


Do it!
 
2022-10-20 12:57:27 PM  
My Mom and wife were both regular General Hospital watchers, but as others have said reality TV has replaced it with the "real" housewives and all the TLC crap.

WWF/WWE is a male soap opera that is still going don't know how many zoomers give a crap. I loved it growing up in the 90s but every time I try to watch now I cant last 5 minutes before my eyes want to roll out of my head at the stupidity.
 
2022-10-20 12:57:40 PM  

imashark: Maybe because soap opera plots have out-competed each other into oblivion by moving to ideas that further and further strain credulity before its audience can't cross the suspension of disbelief to let themselves enjoy the story.


It took this guy to bring credibility back to day time TV
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2022-10-20 1:29:04 PM  
Soap operas are just getting another facelift.  Yellowstone, wrestling, Bachelor/Bachelorette/in Paradise, Kardashians, etc are all modern soap operas
 
2022-10-20 1:51:18 PM  
I'm surprised anything is left on traditional television. I don't know a single person who still watches it, young or old, everyone streams now.
 
2022-10-20 1:56:29 PM  
I watch Y&R when I'm home during the week.

It'll end with the Victor sleeping with Victoria after he finds out he isn't his daughter. Then Nicki tells him she lied and Victoria really is his daughter but Nick isn't his son. And she's going back to stripping. Then The Neumans killing the Abbotts in a murder/suicide pact while Genoa City burns to the ground.
 
2022-10-20 2:25:42 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: stuhayes2010: I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.

I started watching General Hospital in the early 80s because of a girlfriend, and was absolutely amazed at the cartoonish absurdity of the plots. Before then I had always assumed that soaps were serious dramas about relationships and diseases, but in the few months I watched GH there was a plot about a stolen piece of experimental tech called the Prometheus Device, that was some sort of weather controller (I think) and a Russian spy searching for it who had been surgically altered to look just like a woman's husband, but with slicked-down hair instead of a goatee to indicate that he was "the bad one." It was amazingly silly all around, and I still remember how slowly the plots progressed, especially for a show that was on for five hours every week.


Soap plots move slowly so if you're a stay-at-home mom, you can vacuum, check on the baby, start dinner, etc and you never miss a thing.
 
2022-10-20 2:42:49 PM  
Soap operas are incredibly ambitious. I can't imagine the work it takes to crank out 5 new episodes every week. It's such a unique, demanding craft.
 
2022-10-20 2:46:36 PM  

stuhayes2010: Barricaded Gunman: stuhayes2010: I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.

I started watching General Hospital in the early 80s because of a girlfriend, and was absolutely amazed at the cartoonish absurdity of the plots. Before then I had always assumed that soaps were serious dramas about relationships and diseases, but in the few months I watched GH there was a plot about a stolen piece of experimental tech called the Prometheus Device, that was some sort of weather controller (I think) and a Russian spy searching for it who had been surgically altered to look just like a woman's husband, but with slicked-down hair instead of a goatee to indicate that he was "the bad one." It was amazingly silly all around, and I still remember how slowly the plots progressed, especially for a show that was on for five hours every week.

Soap plots move slowly so if you're a stay-at-home mom, you can vacuum, check on the baby, start dinner, etc and you never miss a thing.


And just predictable enough that if you are away for awhile, you can drop back in and be caught up pretty quickly.

I never understood why anyone would need the recaps from the digests in the check out at your local grocery.
 
2022-10-20 2:52:26 PM  

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2022-10-20 2:56:17 PM  
I stopped watching when it was about the fifth time that Erica Kane was kidnapped and held in a remote cabin by some guy who eventually becomes her next husband.
 
2022-10-20 3:06:30 PM  
Good! Those things are so stupid, I can't understand being able to suspend your disbelief that far. Every single character has a secret evil twin that will turn up when necessary. No man that's married has any kids that belong to him out of the marriage but he does have several children that belong to other women. Everyone ends up 'in a coma' at some point. Every single character is unfaithful to their SO. It's all crap, all the time.
 
2022-10-20 3:28:44 PM  
stuhayes2010:

In that situation I'd make my own life a soap by getting into a serious relationship with everyone at the same time
 
2022-10-20 3:31:01 PM  
brap:

Passions was a trip
 
2022-10-20 3:31:48 PM  

casey17: brap: vudukungfu: I had a friend on Gen Hosp.
I would wager telenovas don't die

Indeed.

We can learn about the real meaning of "must-see-TV" from our Mexican friends.

[64.media.tumblr.com image 400x300] [View Full Size image _x_]

I am just getting over my Un Gancho Al Corazon addiction.  There was also a great one with kind of a supernatural theme with creepy albino-haired demon child that I can't remember the name of.


Passionskind of replicated it with their "Timmy" subplot.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/iPXutZmLsmA]

Tell me you never watched "Port Charles" without telling me you never watched "Port Charles"

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/PortCharles


Vampires in Port Charles? Did they take a wrong turn heading to Collinsport?
 
2022-10-20 3:33:19 PM  

stuhayes2010: Barricaded Gunman: stuhayes2010: I had an early 7am class in college in the 90's.  I would go to the cafeteria afterwards for breakfast and watch TV.  Got hooked on As the World Turns because it was always on TV.  It was me (a guy) and like 11 ladies watching it.

I started watching General Hospital in the early 80s because of a girlfriend, and was absolutely amazed at the cartoonish absurdity of the plots. Before then I had always assumed that soaps were serious dramas about relationships and diseases, but in the few months I watched GH there was a plot about a stolen piece of experimental tech called the Prometheus Device, that was some sort of weather controller (I think) and a Russian spy searching for it who had been surgically altered to look just like a woman's husband, but with slicked-down hair instead of a goatee to indicate that he was "the bad one." It was amazingly silly all around, and I still remember how slowly the plots progressed, especially for a show that was on for five hours every week.

Soap plots move slowly so if you're a stay-at-home mom, you can vacuum, check on the baby, start dinner, etc and you never miss a thing.


They also repeat the same plots and the characters never evolve.

/sounds like some science fiction shows
 
2022-10-20 3:36:02 PM  
Barricaded Gunman:

If you have ADHD you will if asked the right questions and need a dopamine fix.

I recommend having a drink or an edible and reading a new thread if this is the case.
 
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