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(The Marshall Project)   Absolutely nothing in this survey of American sheriffs will surprise you   (themarshallproject.org) divider line
    More: Scary, Police, Constable, Sheriff Tim Leslie of Dakota County, Sheriff, wide-ranging survey, Emily Farris of Texas Christian University, sheriffs, Mirya Holman of Tulane University  
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3771 clicks; posted to Politics » on 18 Oct 2022 at 1:50 PM (15 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-18 1:02:47 PM  
They support fascism. This is the least shocking development in the history of developments.
 
2022-10-18 1:10:50 PM  
FTA: They are frequently open to some changes championed by the criminal justice reform movement, including a federal government system to track officers accused of misconduct and police trainings in nonviolent alternatives to deadly force.

...really? Is it "frequently" relative to the support in the general US population, or merely "frequently" enough to be detected by the sample?


Looking down in TFA to the "Do you favor any of the following policies?" section, the "nonviolent alternatives" seems about 90% "favor", which does seem a little surprising. Contrariwise, the "federal system" gets only about 50% favor, criminalizing chokeholds gets only about 10%, and "civilian oversight" gets about 3%.
 
2022-10-18 1:37:10 PM  

abb3w: FTA: They are frequently open to some changes championed by the criminal justice reform movement, including a federal government system to track officers accused of misconduct and police trainings in nonviolent alternatives to deadly force.

...really? Is it "frequently" relative to the support in the general US population, or merely "frequently" enough to be detected by the sample?


Looking down in TFA to the "Do you favor any of the following policies?" section, the "nonviolent alternatives" seems about 90% "favor", which does seem a little surprising. Contrariwise, the "federal system" gets only about 50% favor, criminalizing chokeholds gets only about 10%, and "civilian oversight" gets about 3%.


Came here to post almost the exact same thing. Federally tracking bad officers is actually a few ticks below 50%. How is less than 50% "frequent"?
 
2022-10-18 1:53:07 PM  
It wasn't the protests that made us hate you, it was that we had to protest.
 
2022-10-18 1:53:19 PM  
Yep, even the fascist running for representative in deep blue Eastside of Seattle is a deputy sheriff.

/he's gonna lose in a bloodbath
//and it will be gloooooorious
 
2022-10-18 1:53:20 PM  
They'd all give an Honorary badge to Head-Injury Herschel?
 
2022-10-18 1:53:49 PM  
Nothing more money and military equipment can't fix
 
2022-10-18 1:54:34 PM  
That a handful of them don't abuse their wives and kids and some aren't roid freaks?
 
2022-10-18 1:54:39 PM  
So all sheriffs are treasonous, nazi, racist sacks of shiat. Shocker.
They must all be christians.
 
2022-10-18 1:55:04 PM  
Well, the first question is; what kind of person says to themselves, "I want to be Sheriff!"

That's who runs for sheriff.
 
2022-10-18 1:56:50 PM  
Oblig:

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2022-10-18 1:57:44 PM  
On the whole, sheriffs are the the most aggressively ignorant elected officials out there.  I'm sure there a few good ones.
 
2022-10-18 1:58:21 PM  
Fact: 4/5 king shiat sheriffs would prefer if Rambo didn't get something to eat in town.
 
2022-10-18 1:58:33 PM  
And there it is.

Everything you need to know about cops in America today. 3.8% agree with independent oversight.
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2022-10-18 1:59:01 PM  
Sheriff are our version of having evil Dukes lording over their feudal lands.
 
2022-10-18 1:59:15 PM  
Sheriffs shouldn't even exist outside of history books, western movies... and I suppose those meaningless ceremonial sheriffs in the UK.
 
2022-10-18 1:59:27 PM  
What are Sheriffs? Here in NH they ferry around perps do more the paper stuff like issuing subpoenas maybe carry out evictions, but not much policing, just filli.no in in small towns infrequently
 
2022-10-18 2:00:06 PM  

Raoul Eaton: On the whole, sheriffs are the the most aggressively ignorant elected officials out there.  I'm sure there a few good ones.


There are not.  That's why ACAB exists.
 
2022-10-18 2:01:22 PM  
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2022-10-18 2:01:29 PM  
Most believe mass protests like those against the 2020 police murder of George Floyd are motivated by bias against law enforcement.

Oh, they're so close to getting it!  The protesters were motivated by bias against law enforcement WHO KILL INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE.  These Sheriffs seem to want to generalize others' motives when the obvious specific context is right there bleeding out on the ground.

// Vote Shirriff Robin Smallburrow - Safer Taverns is a Safer Shire!
 
2022-10-18 2:02:40 PM  
That's okay. We'll just vote our way out of this problem.
 
2022-10-18 2:03:02 PM  
Sheriff don't like it.
 
2022-10-18 2:03:36 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: What are Sheriffs? Here in NH they ferry around perps do more the paper stuff like issuing subpoenas maybe carry out evictions, but not much policing, just filli.no in in small towns infrequently


They are also the ones who are insecure about their jurisdiction and often speaking up about how Americas goin to hail and their fixin to do somethin' out it.
 
2022-10-18 2:04:51 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: And there it is.

Everything you need to know about cops in America today. 3.8% agree with independent oversight.
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Which tells me we absolutely must have it.
 
JJR
2022-10-18 2:06:33 PM  
But then again, who would want a Woke Snowflake for Sheriff? Wait.....forgot where I was for a sec.
 
2022-10-18 2:07:25 PM  
tl;dr ACAB, sheriffs especially.
 
2022-10-18 2:10:52 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: And there it is.

Everything you need to know about cops in America today. 3.8% agree with independent oversight.
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Is this the same group that tells us that if we aren't doing anything wrong, we don't have anything to fear? Because it seems that they are afraid of independent oversight.
 
2022-10-18 2:11:53 PM  
"How do you feel about people who criticize policing methods in America, like the people who protested in the wake of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor's deaths?"

"I should be allowed to shoot those people😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡"
 
2022-10-18 2:13:26 PM  

El Brujo: Sheriff are our version of having evil Dukes lording over their feudal lands.


Literally 'Shire Reeve'
 
2022-10-18 2:15:16 PM  
FARK...THE ....POLICE
 
2022-10-18 2:16:01 PM  

JJR: But then again, who would want a Woke Snowflake for Sheriff? Wait.....forgot where I was for a sec.


Anyone else wake up this morning with an irresistible urge to type out the stupidest f*cking thing they can think of?
 
2022-10-18 2:17:25 PM  

I dont want to be on this planet anymore: Sheriff don't like it.


Rock the cop bar?
 
2022-10-18 2:17:25 PM  

JJR: But then again, who would want a Woke Snowflake for Sheriff? Wait.....forgot where I was for a sec.


You might be right, but you'll have to tell me what you mean by 'woke' first.  So many people are using it so many ways... how do you mean it?
 
2022-10-18 2:17:45 PM  

PirateKing: El Brujo: Sheriff are our version of having evil Dukes lording over their feudal lands.

Literally 'Shire Reeve'


Son of a b*tch, I never even put that together.
 
2022-10-18 2:18:06 PM  
"We Surveyed America's Sheriffs. Their Views May Surprise You."

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2022-10-18 2:21:47 PM  
According to teh Googles there are 3,081 sheriffs serving in the US today. This survey only covers <600 of them. I'd like to know what regions they pulled from, there are some more sensible less insane sheriffs in different parts of the country, I don't think you can equate these guys as easily as you can other groups, too many opportunities for selection bias.

Which isn't to say the survey is wrong, just that the numbers aren't as precise as they'd like to us to believe.
 
2022-10-18 2:23:10 PM  
Oh, when you consider that sheriff is the quintessential elected figure of land, and then compare that to election maps republicans try to tout as showing voter dominance by virtue of how land votes, it is an absolute no brainer 80% of Sheriffs are right wing farkers.
 
2022-10-18 2:24:30 PM  
This should not surprise anybody. The people drawn to a career in law enforcement are, I would argue, the LAST people you actually want in law enforcement ... at least from a psychological and political perspective. They don't have much interest in fairly upholding the law. They see it, at best, as a tool to inflict pain on others -- specifically those who disagree with them.
 
2022-10-18 2:26:09 PM  

Aquapope: Most believe mass protests like those against the 2020 police murder of George Floyd are motivated by bias against law enforcement.

Oh, they're so close to getting it!  The protesters were motivated by bias against law enforcement WHO KILL INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE.  These Sheriffs seem to want to generalize others' motives when the obvious specific context is right there bleeding out on the ground.

// Vote Shirriff Robin Smallburrow - Safer Taverns is a Safer Shire!


There's your problem. For many of these guys, the black people are guilty until proven innocent. Which is usually a post-mortem determination but whatever
 
2022-10-18 2:26:47 PM  

leviosaurus: According to teh Googles there are 3,081 sheriffs serving in the US today. This survey only covers <600 of them. I'd like to know what regions they pulled from, there are some more sensible less insane sheriffs in different parts of the country, I don't think you can equate these guys as easily as you can other groups, too many opportunities for selection bias.

Which isn't to say the survey is wrong, just that the numbers aren't as precise as they'd like to us to believe.


Sounds like they brought some data to the table and all you brought was some of your own bias.
 
2022-10-18 2:27:25 PM  

leviosaurus: According to teh Googles there are 3,081 sheriffs serving in the US today. This survey only covers <600 of them. I'd like to know what regions they pulled from, there are some more sensible less insane sheriffs in different parts of the country, I don't think you can equate these guys as easily as you can other groups, too many opportunities for selection bias.

Which isn't to say the survey is wrong, just that the numbers aren't as precise as they'd like to us to believe.


20% is a very large sample. If a poll surveyed 20% of registered voters it would include 33 million people, when N = 1000 is generally considered the minimum to take a poll's results seriously.
 
2022-10-18 2:29:11 PM  
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/maybe we do need a king....
//and royal titles....
///for Sheriffs....
 
2022-10-18 2:30:04 PM  
When law enforcement believes they don't have to be law abiding

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These sheriffs sure are fart smellers

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2022-10-18 2:30:15 PM  
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2022-10-18 2:30:49 PM  
But noooo, apparently we couldn't defund the police because that would hurt the poor Nazis' feelings.
 
2022-10-18 2:34:13 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: And there it is.

Everything you need to know about cops in America today. 3.8% agree with independent oversight.
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10% don't think that they should have to learn to use that namby-pamby "NON VIOLENT" method....
 
2022-10-18 2:35:07 PM  
It is terrifying we put law enforcement in the hands of elected officials on a local level with next to no oversight. It is one of the biggest issues with law enforcement today. You can literally take one step at millions of points around the united states and experience a completely different application of laws. 80% of law enforcement/criminal prosecution is guided by discretion in the application of the law. When you have a system with that much discretion, the lack of a central governing authority is ludicrous. When we take that a step further and look at use of force, which is 99% discretion*, woooooooah Nellie.

* Yes, there are times when force is the only option, but how, when, how long, and type are almost ALWAYS discretionary decisions. But, we all in the community tend to focus on deadly force because it is headline grabbing and that represents less than 1% of applied force across the criminal justice spectrum. I have seen audit reports from certain police, corrections, homeland security regions/units where they have thousands on non-deadly force applications for every application of deadly force. I once saw an audit report for a moderate sized municipality (75k people) where they had zero applications of deadly force in 20 years.
 
2022-10-18 2:36:17 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: leviosaurus: According to teh Googles there are 3,081 sheriffs serving in the US today. This survey only covers <600 of them. I'd like to know what regions they pulled from, there are some more sensible less insane sheriffs in different parts of the country, I don't think you can equate these guys as easily as you can other groups, too many opportunities for selection bias.

Which isn't to say the survey is wrong, just that the numbers aren't as precise as they'd like to us to believe.

20% is a very large sample. If a poll surveyed 20% of registered voters it would include 33 million people, when N = 1000 is generally considered the minimum to take a poll's results seriously.


Not sure why you were funnied once, but wanted to support and say you are dead right.
 
2022-10-18 2:36:29 PM  
Actually I was surprised they were open to non-violent forms of policing and tracking problematic officers, but, we might differ on how we define "problematic" which is.... problematic
 
2022-10-18 2:36:29 PM  
Many of the most racist and fascist sheriffs operate very small departments.

In September, House Democrats passed the  "Invest to Protect Act" which would give federal money to these racist authoritarian prices of shot to higher more acolytes. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6448

It has not yet passed the senate.

Write your senator and tell them to vote down the Invest to Protect Act.
 
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