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(NPR)   People are perplexed, befuddled, and flummoxed that palm trees can withstand Category 5 hurricane forces. Subby's going out on a limb here, but maybe, just maybe it's because they're just sticks with bendy stuff at the top?   (npr.org) divider line
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2022-10-16 4:54:05 PM  
It's because they are grass, not trees
 
2022-10-16 4:59:48 PM  

cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees


There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't
 
2022-10-16 5:00:32 PM  
Evolution is beautiful, isn't it?
 
2022-10-16 5:02:19 PM  

phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't



Whoa.  That's deep.
 
2022-10-16 5:02:55 PM  

phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't


You're a tree
 
2022-10-16 5:15:28 PM  

propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree


they're certainly something.
 
2022-10-16 5:21:51 PM  
 
2022-10-16 6:28:58 PM  

Albert911emt: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't


Whoa.  That's deep.


After you stuff a few trees in your bowl, sure.
 
2022-10-16 6:51:41 PM  

propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree


I have wood
 
2022-10-16 7:53:56 PM  

propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree


Yer ma was a tree.
 
2022-10-16 8:09:00 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree

Yer ma was a tree.


Can't we all just leaf each other alone?
 
2022-10-16 8:10:54 PM  

markie_farkie: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree

Yer ma was a tree.

Can't we all just leaf each other alone?


Yeah. Let's keep the conversation phloem.
 
2022-10-16 8:49:02 PM  

cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees


What? Grasses are family poaceae. Palms are arecaceae.
 
2022-10-16 8:57:38 PM  
Aes Sedai don't wonder, it's the first thing they're taught.
 
2022-10-16 8:59:09 PM  
Palm trees like the wind. You might say they're frond of it.
 
2022-10-16 8:59:24 PM  

markie_farkie: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree

Yer ma was a tree.

Can't we all just leaf each other alone?


Dude, make like a tree and get outta here!
 
2022-10-16 9:00:26 PM  

phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't



yeah that's generally how words work.
 
2022-10-16 9:01:53 PM  

iron de havilland: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

What? Grasses are family poaceae. Palms are arecaceae.


Yeah right, you wish, they are angiosperms first!
 
2022-10-16 9:02:16 PM  
We should just make our houses either out of palm trees or in palm trees.
 
2022-10-16 9:03:00 PM  

phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't


Yeah, sometimes plants get the idea to be really big and we call them trees. Life is pretty crazy
 
2022-10-16 9:03:10 PM  
Too stupid.  Don't read.
 
2022-10-16 9:04:04 PM  

cretinbob: https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2011/11/06/yes-technically-palms-are-a-big-grass/


No, grasses are a subset of monocots, as are palms.  Grasses are not palms nor vice versa.  That's like saying gorillas are humans because both are in the family Hominidae.  Dude from the Tampa Bay Times didn't learn research or taxonomy in journalism school.
 
2022-10-16 9:04:09 PM  
You might think that palm trees evolved in tropical climates prone to hurricanes and typhoons.
 
2022-10-16 9:04:27 PM  

propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree


I am Groot Summoner101
 
2022-10-16 9:05:12 PM  
Is that why their placed in coastal cities?
 
2022-10-16 9:06:55 PM  
Amber waves of grain with furry balls.
 
2022-10-16 9:07:44 PM  
Headline: "Palm trees in Florida weathered Hurricane Ian's wrath just fine"

Photo: Felled palm tree farking front and center

/yeah, i realize only a small fraction didn't make it, just weird they didn't use a photograph taken about 10 paces further forward.
 
2022-10-16 9:08:02 PM  

propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree


I'd like to be a tree!
 
2022-10-16 9:08:50 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: Amber waves of grain with furry balls.


The Hmong?
 
2022-10-16 9:09:18 PM  

propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree


Spelt fish.
 
2022-10-16 9:11:35 PM  

dionysusaur: Evolution is beautiful, isn't it?


I've convinced myself we are all just food in interstellar mycelium terrariums.
 
2022-10-16 9:12:29 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Palm trees like the wind. You might say they're frond of it.


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2022-10-16 9:13:17 PM  
It's almost like palm trees evolved to live in places often beset by tropical weather.
 
2022-10-16 9:14:16 PM  

propasaurus: phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't

You're a tree


Hoom!  Let's not  get hasty.
 
2022-10-16 9:16:27 PM  
Hurricane Ike passed pretty much over my house in Sugar Land when it made landfall, still had Cat 1 level winds.  Took the top off of the beautiful Chinese Elm in the front yard but the damm Mexican Fan Palm in the back just laughed it off.

The elm was majestic before that, about 35 ft tall with probably 50 foot spread.  It survived the damage but it just looked really weird after that.  After we sold the house the new owner took it down within a year.
 
2022-10-16 9:19:25 PM  

neongoats: It's almost like palm trees evolved to live in places often beset by tropical weather.


Yeah, the ones that broke in the wind didn't survive to make more palm trees.
 
2022-10-16 9:24:23 PM  

phalamir: hoodiowithtudio: Amber waves of grain with furry balls.

The Hmong?


Is this a sunds joke?
 
2022-10-16 9:26:23 PM  
Because they are not made out of wood.
They have a similar structure to grasses.
 
2022-10-16 9:26:28 PM  
It's almost as if trees that are native to areas with frequent hurricanes have evolved to be able to live through hurricanes.
 
2022-10-16 9:27:29 PM  
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2022-10-16 9:28:00 PM  
It's almost like a plant native to a region that experiences daily thunderstorms and yearly hurricanes somehow over the millenia of its existence became hardy enough to withstand said storms.

You can't explain that.
 
2022-10-16 9:32:58 PM  
It's almost like Jesus invented the palm tree to resist hurricanes which were created by Zeus.
 
2022-10-16 9:43:18 PM  
In high wind, tree leaves catch the wind and bend the trunk, which in extreme cases can snap, or if it doesn't, the tree might get pulled out by the roots.

Palm trees have three advantages here.  One... huge root systems.  Two... bendy trunk.  Three... palms drop  off before the trunk or roots are in danger.

This isn't a miracle so much as an specialization.  Evolve in high wind areas and become good at it, albeit at the cost of other things.
 
2022-10-16 9:58:21 PM  
Has anyone here worked with palm wood in a project? I've never had a chance to use that material.

/Where I am, yellow birch is, "exotic."
 
2022-10-16 10:01:19 PM  

dionysusaur: Evolution is beautiful, isn't it?


Came here to say this.  Tropical plants have adapted to their climate just like omg cactus grow in the desert.
 
2022-10-16 10:05:03 PM  

SomeAmerican: In high wind, tree leaves catch the wind and bend the trunk, which in extreme cases can snap, or if it doesn't, the tree might get pulled out by the roots.

Palm trees have three advantages here.  One... huge root systems.  Two... bendy trunk.  Three... palms drop  off before the trunk or roots are in danger.

This isn't a miracle so much as an specialization.  Evolve in high wind areas and become good at it, albeit at the cost of other things.


Palms have a deep root system...really deep.

After tropical storms I've seen lots of non-native ornamental trees blown over with the roots ripped out, but when you look at them the root disk is about 20 feet across and maybe two feet deep.
 
2022-10-16 10:16:15 PM  
the word 'SOME" should have been used more in that article.
in 2004 hurricane Charlie took out most of my palms.
some were pushed over, many had their "heads" ripped off and died.
one little 6 foot one survived and had all but one frond left on it.
the other thing is to define what hurricane means.
supposedly Charlie was a cat 4 and i thought it had more damage than Ian.
Ian did take out my big oaks.
 
2022-10-16 10:31:42 PM  

phalamir: cretinbob: It's because they are grass, not trees

There is no such thing as a "tree" - or, more accurately, anything we call a tree is a tree.  Trees are scattered across many, many families of plants, and are often much more closely related to other non-tree plants than to all but the most closely related other species of trees.  If we call it a tree, it's a tree, and if we don't, it isn't


I've heard there's no such thing as a fish.

iat's a pretty interesting podcast.
 
2022-10-16 10:33:18 PM  

scanman61: SomeAmerican: In high wind, tree leaves catch the wind and bend the trunk, which in extreme cases can snap, or if it doesn't, the tree might get pulled out by the roots.

Palm trees have three advantages here.  One... huge root systems.  Two... bendy trunk.  Three... palms drop  off before the trunk or roots are in danger.

This isn't a miracle so much as an specialization.  Evolve in high wind areas and become good at it, albeit at the cost of other things.

Palms have a deep root system...really deep.

After tropical storms I've seen lots of non-native ornamental trees blown over with the roots ripped out, but when you look at them the root disk is about 20 feet across and maybe two feet deep.


Developers love to strip all the good soil off then they plant trees 1 foot over the clay line and everyone acts surprised when they all fall over during a big storm.
 
2022-10-16 10:39:24 PM  

scanman61: SomeAmerican: In high wind, tree leaves catch the wind and bend the trunk, which in extreme cases can snap, or if it doesn't, the tree might get pulled out by the roots.

Palm trees have three advantages here.  One... huge root systems.  Two... bendy trunk.  Three... palms drop  off before the trunk or roots are in danger.

This isn't a miracle so much as an specialization.  Evolve in high wind areas and become good at it, albeit at the cost of other things.

Palms have a deep root system...really deep.

After tropical storms I've seen lots of non-native ornamental trees blown over with the roots ripped out, but when you look at them the root disk is about 20 feet across and maybe two feet deep.


Ummmmm... no.  Palm trees have almost no root system, less than almost any other tree.  A palm tree's root system is only about as wide as the crown of the tree and only 36 inches deep at the most.  Most other trees have about the same depth for the majority of their roots but much greater width meaning much better hold. And their taproots generally go much deeper.

The reason palm trees survive is that they are very flexible and their fronds just stream downwind producing little drag.  A palm tree is a weather vane, other trees are sails.
 
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