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(The Verge)   Microsoft introduces updated versions of the iPad Pro, Macbook Air, and iMac   (theverge.com) divider line
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994 clicks; posted to STEM » on 12 Oct 2022 at 7:46 PM (22 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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The Exit Stencilist
2022-10-12 5:47:08 PM  
Ya, because MS branded hardware is anything but cheaply produced garbage for the mouth breathers who have nervous breakdowns when asked to press the Any Key

Not saying all PC hardware is crap, just saying MS hardware is.
And the fact is they constantly copy Apple and suck shiat at it.

Remember when they tried copying the Apple Store? Looked practically the same, just a different logo and nothing cool. Only thing notable and distinct about it was what a miserable failure it was. Even more a miserable failure than the Zune (wanna-be iPod). At least a few dozen people bought Zune's, no one went to the Windows Store
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-12 6:07:01 PM  
Oh good, now maybe I can pick up the last gen device on sale.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-12 6:23:15 PM  
For some reason this advertarticle reminds me of this video.
Endicott - Kid Creole and the Coconuts
Youtube 0s0onZaiL4Q
 
urger [TotalFark]
2022-10-12 6:41:51 PM  
That's not fair, Surface's are great hardware for putting Linux on
 
somedude210 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-12 6:47:39 PM  
I still have a Surface 2, it's heavier than modern versions but it's still a very impressive tablet.

The Surface series has been very well made. MS has done some good stuff with their phones and the surface series. Hopefully the Surface doesn't go the way of Windows Phone.
 
Ivo Shandor [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-12 7:19:53 PM  
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Lsherm [TotalFark]
2022-10-12 8:15:00 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: Ya, because MS branded hardware is anything but cheaply produced garbage for the mouth breathers who have nervous breakdowns when asked to press the Any Key

Not saying all PC hardware is crap, just saying MS hardware is.
And the fact is they constantly copy Apple and suck shiat at it.

Remember when they tried copying the Apple Store? Looked practically the same, just a different logo and nothing cool. Only thing notable and distinct about it was what a miserable failure it was. Even more a miserable failure than the Zune (wanna-be iPod). At least a few dozen people bought Zune's, no one went to the Windows Store


I have a Surface Pro 3 that is still working. Not all MS hardware is crap.

The biggest difference between the MS tablets and Apple tablets is that the Surfaces are running full versions of Windows, which means they can act as a laptop replacement better than an iPad. I have an iPad Pro. I love it, but it can't replace my Macbook Pro. But what makes the iPad a poor laptop replacement also makes it a better tablet, so I like to use it as a tablet. I wouldn't like to use a Surface as a tablet as much.

If I had a limited budget and could only buy ONE device that had to cover both laptop AND tablet functions? I'd get a Surface over an iPad. That's the specific use case where I think it comes out on top.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2022-10-12 8:17:03 PM  

somedude210: I still have a Surface 2, it's heavier than modern versions but it's still a very impressive tablet.

The Surface series has been very well made. MS has done some good stuff with their phones and the surface series. Hopefully the Surface doesn't go the way of Windows Phone.


I'm still using my surface pro 3 every day. It happily survives being thrown in my backpack and lugged around all day. It's a great machine.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2022-10-12 8:24:32 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: Not saying all PC hardware is crap, just saying MS hardware is.
And the fact is they constantly copy Apple and suck shiat at it.


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The Surface Pro and the Surface RT both had full multitasking, something it took Apple three years to copy.
Full mouse support? Didn't the iPad only get that a year ago?
User accounts, so you can let your kid use it without them reading your emails, changing your settings and buying apps?
Still not available on the iPad.
Multi display extended desktop support? Still waiting.

If Apple launched a new iPad Pro tomorrow that could switch seamlessly into full MacOS and run full Mac software as well as iPadOS apps Apple users would piss themselves and line up for days to buy it.

Well guess what, that's what Surfaces do. And have done for a decade now.
 
Caelistis
2022-10-12 8:41:01 PM  
As an owner of a Surface RT, I'll never own or use anything made by Microsoft again.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2022-10-12 8:46:02 PM  

Caelistis: As an owner of a Surface RT, I'll never own or use anything made by Microsoft again.


Lack of apps is what killed the RT, and marketing it as a "Windows" machine.
Technically it was a fantastic machine, years ahead of the iPad in every way. It was launched a decade ago and has a bunch of features the iPad still lacks. It even came with Word, Excel, Powerpoint etc, both full* desktop versions and the mobile app versions.
And you could plug a X Box controller into it and play FPS games on your big screen TV.

/*Almost. The desktop version of Word couldn't run macros for example.
 
dbirchall [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-12 8:57:24 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: Remember when they tried copying the Apple Store? Looked practically the same, just a different logo and nothing cool.


I remember Microsoft Stores in malls.  They didn't look all that much like Apple Stores.  Mainly because all the people in them were dressed as employees, which was kinda strange.
 
Chemlight Battery
2022-10-12 9:12:08 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: Ya, because MS branded hardware is anything but cheaply produced garbage for the mouth breathers who have nervous breakdowns when asked to press the Any Key

Not saying all PC hardware is crap, just saying MS hardware is.
And the fact is they constantly copy Apple and suck shiat at it.

Remember when they tried copying the Apple Store? Looked practically the same, just a different logo and nothing cool. Only thing notable and distinct about it was what a miserable failure it was. Even more a miserable failure than the Zune (wanna-be iPod). At least a few dozen people bought Zune's, no one went to the Windows Store


I will begrudgingly admit that the Surface is quite a nice little device. It just isn't priced anywhere close to where I would find it tempting.
 
Rev.K [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-12 9:13:46 PM  
I have a Surface for work and the thing is an absolutely impressive piece of hardware that runs pretty much flawlessly.
 
Gordon Bennett [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-12 10:20:31 PM  
I like the idea of the original, non-portable prototype.

Microsoft "Surface" - The Possibilities
Youtube 6VfpVYYQzHs
 
Caelistis
2022-10-12 11:13:43 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Lack of apps is what killed the RT, and marketing it as a "Windows" machine...


This is all that matters plus Microsoft's abysmal support for it.

Everything else is useless fluff. Who gives a fark about the iPad. I didn't buy an iPad. I bought a Surface RT that Microsoft farked me and every other RT over on not too long after launch. This after promising and promoting it as an effective and efficient portable Windows machine that would see years of support and all of our most used apps.
 
Skyfrog
2022-10-13 12:23:32 AM  

The Exit Stencilist: Ya, because MS branded hardware is anything but cheaply produced garbage for the mouth breathers who have nervous breakdowns when asked to press the Any Key


Apple hardware, Microsoft hardware...all made by Foxconn in China.
 
I Like Bread
2022-10-13 1:19:11 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: The Exit Stencilist: Not saying all PC hardware is crap, just saying MS hardware is.
And the fact is they constantly copy Apple and suck shiat at it.

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The Surface Pro and the Surface RT both had full multitasking, something it took Apple three years to copy.
Full mouse support? Didn't the iPad only get that a year ago?
User accounts, so you can let your kid use it without them reading your emails, changing your settings and buying apps?
Still not available on the iPad.
Multi display extended desktop support? Still waiting.

If Apple launched a new iPad Pro tomorrow that could switch seamlessly into full MacOS and run full Mac software as well as iPadOS apps Apple users would piss themselves and line up for days to buy it.

Well guess what, that's what Surfaces do. And have done for a decade now.


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ISO15693
2022-10-13 5:08:42 AM  

The Exit Stencilist: Ya, because MS branded hardware is anything but cheaply produced garbage for the mouth breathers who have nervous breakdowns when asked to press the Any Key

Not saying all PC hardware is crap, just saying MS hardware is.
And the fact is they constantly copy Apple and suck shiat at it.


Wow. So much cluelessness in one post. I almost want to quote luke skywalker.
 
Spawn_of_Cthulhu
2022-10-13 7:15:26 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Oh good, now maybe I can pick up the last gen device on sale.


Woot has lots of Surface Pros. I just got a 6.
 
iaazathot
2022-10-13 12:01:04 PM  
Haven't had any problems with Surface products, have a fleet of Surface Pros and Surface Books. We can't use iPads or Macs. They are cost prohibitive and none of our software is ported to them.

We aren't a hipster video production outfit.
 
bingethinker [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-13 12:24:59 PM  

Ivo Shandor: [Fark user image 425x247]


There were covers with built in keyboards available for the iPad from Day One. Then Microsoft acted like they invented the idea, and the usual simpletons have been parroting that idea ever since.
 
Carter Pewterschmidt [TotalFark]
2022-10-13 4:02:50 PM  

bingethinker: Ivo Shandor: [Fark user image 425x247]

There were covers with built in keyboards available for the iPad from Day One. Then Microsoft acted like they invented the idea, and the usual simpletons have been parroting that idea ever since.


Back in the many many Windows 8 threads anytime I or anyone said that installing Classic Shell fixed all W8s problems and made it a great UI we were told that third party solutions didn't count. If it wasn't official then it couldn't be considered.
AFAIK Apple took five years to introduce am official keyboard/cover, long after Microsoft did it.
The keyboard they had from the start was a very non portable, non cover one.
Apple's first iPad keyboard and the power of the portrait display | Macworld

There were even cartoonists joking about it, and predicting Apple copying MS.
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Plus the Apple keyboard cover didn't have a trackpad, meaning using it wasn't as seamless as a laptop. And folding out the cover to prop the tablet up is really clunky compared to the Surface kickstand.
My first gen Surface RT has features that the latest iPad still hasn't got a decade later.
 
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