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(CNN)   Honda plans to build $4.4B battery factory in Ohio after learning that Ohio embraces industrial waste being dumped into their rivers and set on fire   (edition.cnn.com) divider line
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374 clicks; posted to Business » on 11 Oct 2022 at 2:05 PM (16 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-11 12:29:52 PM  
Too bad Pennsylvania can't get a factory like that.

Ohio still sucks.
 
2022-10-11 12:45:51 PM  

kdawg7736: Too bad Pennsylvania can't get a factory like that.

Ohio still sucks.


Someone is extremely jelly.

How's them Steelers doing?
 
2022-10-11 2:18:00 PM  
Fun times in Cleveland, again!  Still CLEVELAND!
 
2022-10-11 2:19:05 PM  
Free Market Capitalism in action

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2022-10-11 2:26:35 PM  
Free market capitalism in action!!!

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2022-10-11 2:28:44 PM  
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2022-10-11 2:31:51 PM  
Yay keep rewarding red states for their abhorrent behavior.
 
2022-10-11 2:35:31 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yay keep rewarding red states for their abhorrent behavior.


Much of Honda's US manufacturing capacity is either in Ohio or a short trip away, so it makes sense.  I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the output is sent over to Marysville, East Liberty, and Greensburg.
 
2022-10-11 2:53:17 PM  
These days the Cuyahoga is in pretty good shape, all things considered.  They're trying to get the Mahoning cleaned up too (the river that goes through Youngstown and Alliance).
 
2022-10-11 2:59:50 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yay keep rewarding red states for their abhorrent behavior.


If Vance wins this November then I'll be convinced that Ohio can officially be written off as "too far gone". If Ryan wins, I will hold out hope until 2024 when we will probably be too far gone.
 
2022-10-11 3:28:55 PM  

OhioUGrad: Karma Chameleon: Yay keep rewarding red states for their abhorrent behavior.

If Vance wins this November then I'll be convinced that Ohio can officially be written off as "too far gone". If Ryan wins, I will hold out hope until 2024 when we will probably be too far gone.


Maybe if everyone got tired of drought and moved out of those desert blue western states, then we might have more blue states overall.
 
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2022-10-11 3:37:56 PM  
Nonsense, subby. We know that battery creation results in zero waste, other than flowers and delicious crumpets.
 
2022-10-11 3:40:25 PM  
Can only improve the water that has more iron in it than Pepper Potts ever did.
 
2022-10-11 4:01:21 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: These days the Cuyahoga is in pretty good shape, all things considered.  They're trying to get the Mahoning cleaned up too (the river that goes through Youngstown and Alliance).


You only have to catch a river on fire 13 times before people stop and take notice.
 
2022-10-11 4:06:56 PM  

kab: Nonsense, subby. We know that battery creation results in zero waste, other than flowers and delicious crumpets.


Good point. If it isn't perfect, we shouldn't do anything. Burn gas forever. Maybe a magical technology completely free of pollution will suddenly appear some day.
 
2022-10-11 4:28:29 PM  
And that's why histories monsters come from Ohio.

Refer to my Colobus day post for further reading.
 
2022-10-11 5:39:23 PM  
My father went to Case Western back in the day.  He has stories of rolling the windows up and driving as fast as possible over the bridge because the river below was regularly on fire and the smoke smelled bad.
Then the Clean Water Act and Clean Air Act ended that shiat when the EPA still had teeth.  All signed by Nixon FFS.
 
2022-10-11 5:54:59 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yay keep rewarding red states for their abhorrent behavior.


Its the companies doing that because the companies want more red states.
 
2022-10-11 6:38:41 PM  
we haven't learned our lessions


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2022-10-11 7:28:52 PM  
Funny how on Twitter this was being put forth as a huge BIden Win.  And on Fark, it is being trashed as who would build a factory in some red state and F Ohio.


The stupid is strong these days.
 
2022-10-11 9:50:17 PM  

Eightballjacket: Funny how on Twitter this was being put forth as a huge BIden Win.  And on Fark, it is being trashed as who would build a factory in some red state and F Ohio.


The stupid is strong these days.


It is a huge Biden win. Hell, the IRA even got Toyota to announce a new factory. Toyota. They hate EVs from the CEO down.
 
2022-10-11 10:34:02 PM  
Honda recently revealed the design of its next electric SUV, the Honda Prologue. That SUV, as well as other upcoming electric vehicles from Honda and its Acura luxury brand, will be based on General Motors engineering and will use GM's Ultium battery packs.

GM had the weirdest product tie-in where the Saturn Vue had the L66 engine, which was a Honda J-engine paired to a Honda transmission. Those were the only reliable versions of the Vue that I recommend people purchasing.

I don't recall what Honda got in return for that product trade. It genuinely escapes me what was offered to Honda in exchange for a reliable powertrain sold to GM for use in the Vue.
 
2022-10-11 10:55:20 PM  

mrmopar5287: Honda recently revealed the design of its next electric SUV, the Honda Prologue. That SUV, as well as other upcoming electric vehicles from Honda and its Acura luxury brand, will be based on General Motors engineering and will use GM's Ultium battery packs.

GM had the weirdest product tie-in where the Saturn Vue had the L66 engine, which was a Honda J-engine paired to a Honda transmission. Those were the only reliable versions of the Vue that I recommend people purchasing.

I don't recall what Honda got in return for that product trade. It genuinely escapes me what was offered to Honda in exchange for a reliable powertrain sold to GM for use in the Vue.


GM owned 49 percent of Isuzu at that point in time and basically controlled the company. I think they got to use some Isuzu stuff. Particularly diesel engines. Some early Honda SUVs were also rebranded Isuzus.
 
2022-10-11 11:20:56 PM  

The_Homeless_Guy: GM owned 49 percent of Isuzu at that point in time and basically controlled the company. I think they got to use some Isuzu stuff. Particularly diesel engines. Some early Honda SUVs were also rebranded Isuzus.


The Isuzu Diesel engine tie-up was the Duramax V-8 engine, but that was before the Honda partnership.

The first Passport SUVs were a weird mis-mash of Honda-Isuzu-Subaru and built in Indiana. It was a rebadge of the Isuzu Rodeo.
 
2022-10-12 9:46:10 AM  

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..but it is in a red state.
 
2022-10-12 12:56:11 PM  

The_Homeless_Guy: GM owned 49 percent of Isuzu at that point in time and basically controlled the company. I think they got to use some Isuzu stuff. Particularly diesel engines. Some early Honda SUVs were also rebranded Isuzus.


I looked it up:

When GM and Honda announced this deal in December 1999, it was billed as a "powertrain cross-supply arrangement" that would see Honda getting diesel engines from GM's Isuzu affiliate for use in Europe in exchange for an unnamed V-6.

I forgot that Honda didn't (at the time) have the appetite to jump into designing their own Diesel engines so they just bought them from Isuzu. That's weird, because just a few years afterward Honda developed the N-engine as their own Diesel engine.
 
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