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(KUOW Seattle)   After 2.5 years, Seattle's Green Lake to once again permit wheels on circular lake path, trusting Lance Armstrongs and Tony Hawks to stay in their lane separate from pedestrians   (kuow.org) divider line
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TwoHead
2022-10-10 5:25:22 PM  
We have a path like that here along the river. I don't use it much anymore, but I used to both walk and bike there. When I did there were a few bikes going too fast, but most of the problems were from pedestrians walking in the bike lane. I rode up on a group of mamas walking four wide with their strollers once. Slowed down to their pace behind them and said good morning, then asked them if they knew they were in the bike lane. They seemed surprised so I mentioned that if they looked down the pictures would help them figure it out. No matter how many times I pointed out the pictures on the ground I never stopped finding the humor in the faces people made when you did that.
 
El_Dan
2022-10-10 7:09:32 PM  
Hopefully that bright yellow line in the picture helps remind everyone to be polite and keep right except to pass.
 
Karma Chameleon
2022-10-10 7:12:45 PM  
On crowded days I never understood why people even tried to bike around the inner loop, seems like too much of a hassle.

/one of my favorite places in the city
 
yuthinasia
2022-10-10 7:13:02 PM  
Good idea. 100,000 people visit that park on a busy summer weekend. Few care about bikes.
 
swankywanky
2022-10-10 7:14:47 PM  
And I said "Hey dude, method that aerial right now."

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Magnanimous_J
2022-10-10 7:16:41 PM  
Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.
 
whidbey
2022-10-10 7:17:08 PM  
It was always a clstrf*ck trying to ride on that path.  Just too many people.
 
TheRedMonkey
2022-10-10 7:22:07 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.


Usually, self-centered oblivious parents letting their kids do whatever they no matter the inconvenience to others.
 
New Rising Sun
2022-10-10 7:22:31 PM  
e-bikes and one-wheels will fark that up in no time.  They are the biggest offenders -- the only ones really -- on our local mixed-use paths.
 
extrafancy
2022-10-10 7:23:18 PM  
The wheels lane is for guys in neon thongs skating backwards on rollerblades.  And jog strollers.
Unless you are under 10 years old, bikes really don't really work there on the inside track.
 
steve_wmn
2022-10-10 7:29:46 PM  

TwoHead: We have a path like that here along the river. I don't use it much anymore, but I used to both walk and bike there. When I did there were a few bikes going too fast, but most of the problems were from pedestrians walking in the bike lane. I rode up on a group of mamas walking four wide with their strollers once. Slowed down to their pace behind them and said good morning, then asked them if they knew they were in the bike lane. They seemed surprised so I mentioned that if they looked down the pictures would help them figure it out. No matter how many times I pointed out the pictures on the ground I never stopped finding the humor in the faces people made when you did that.


Most bike paths in parks are like that in the US at least. And they're drawn up and built without much thought about what a bike rider needs. They often have wiggly little short radius turns and bad grading. And once they're built they're left to deteriorate until they're just a series of frost heaves and cracks. Give me a rail trail any day, or a nice wide road for a road bike.
 
steve_wmn
2022-10-10 7:32:26 PM  

TheRedMonkey: Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.

Usually, self-centered oblivious parents letting their kids do whatever they no matter the inconvenience to others.


Or the dogs on a 20 foot flexi-leash fully extended and stretching across the pedestrian path and the bike path.
 
OkieDookie [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 7:35:30 PM  
Dodging campers on the Interurban or Microsoft assholes on the Samammish River Trail is more fun any way.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2022-10-10 7:38:31 PM  
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0z79
2022-10-10 7:55:16 PM  

TwoHead: We have a path like that here along the river. I don't use it much anymore, but I used to both walk and bike there. When I did there were a few bikes going too fast, but most of the problems were from pedestrians walking in the bike lane. I rode up on a group of mamas walking four wide with their strollers once. Slowed down to their pace behind them and said good morning, then asked them if they knew they were in the bike lane. They seemed surprised so I mentioned that if they looked down the pictures would help them figure it out. No matter how many times I pointed out the pictures on the ground I never stopped finding the humor in the faces people made when you did that.


You think that's funny? You should see the look on someone's face if they're using an electric wheelchair in the bike lane. I've never seen such a completely shocked expression as when I say "Excuse me, passing on the left."

It always comes as a complete shock that there would be such a thing as a designated bike lane, and that people would *gasp* RIDE BIKES in it!
 
OccamsWhiskers
2022-10-10 7:57:57 PM  

steve_wmn: TwoHead: We have a path like that here along the river. I don't use it much anymore, but I used to both walk and bike there. When I did there were a few bikes going too fast, but most of the problems were from pedestrians walking in the bike lane. I rode up on a group of mamas walking four wide with their strollers once. Slowed down to their pace behind them and said good morning, then asked them if they knew they were in the bike lane. They seemed surprised so I mentioned that if they looked down the pictures would help them figure it out. No matter how many times I pointed out the pictures on the ground I never stopped finding the humor in the faces people made when you did that.

Most bike paths in parks are like that in the US at least. And they're drawn up and built without much thought about what a bike rider needs. They often have wiggly little short radius turns and bad grading. And once they're built they're left to deteriorate until they're just a series of frost heaves and cracks. Give me a rail trail any day, or a nice wide road for a road bike.


Ours are kept in very good condition, but the mixed use paths do have wiggly little short radius turns. I always assumed this was completely intentional, as a signal to bikers and others to slow the fark down. Those are not the places to try to 'beat your time' or something.

And it was TwoHead's comment, but I think those on-path symbols are often very easy to overlook if you're pushing a stroller in front of you. Those block most of the view, and some path-side signage is really needed to supplement it.

My local paths get busy, but the majority of folks know where to walk, how to behave when a bell or "on your left" is heard from behind. Ebikes and scooters do seem to be a problem - those riders often just don't slow anywhere, which makes no sense.
 
0z79
2022-10-10 8:04:34 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.


That's funny, this past Friday I had to dodge two kids riding their bikes through a freaking Safeway. I think the problem is people being raised with a sense of entitlement, maybe breeders not bothering to raise civilized human beings.

Plus lack of education. If you look down and see you're walking over a symbol that looks like someone on a bike; MOVE OUT OF THE BIKE LANE before you get hit! MAYBE teach your crotch-fruit the same thing, if you can work it into your busy schedule of teaching them that the rest of the world exists just for them.
 
Stud Gerbil
2022-10-10 8:05:48 PM  
Walk paths like this all the time and there are five basic types of people:
1) walkers
2) runners
3) cyclists
4) hordes who walk very slowly, three or four abreast, blocking at least half the path
5) dog walkers who let the dog walk all over the path and try to trip everyone  else with the leash.

Hating on cyclists is fine, but the last two groups are far, far worse.
 
0z79
2022-10-10 8:09:17 PM  

Stud Gerbil: Walk paths like this all the time and there are five basic types of people:
1) walkers
2) runners
3) cyclists
4) hordes who walk very slowly, three or four abreast, blocking at least half the path
5) dog walkers who let the dog walk all over the path and try to trip everyone  else with the leash.

Hating on cyclists is fine, but the last two groups are far, far worse.


I let myself get intimidated off my bike by cyclist haters, mainly because they ride around in two-ton vehicles and hate the healthy like the dead hate the living. I'm thinking it's time to get out of that mindset and start packing heat.

Place less value on my life 'cause I cycle, fine. But I ain't going down without a fight.
 
Mock26
2022-10-10 8:10:59 PM  
Max of 10 mph; warn people when passing; move slowly through crowded areas.

This will surely piss of the Lancies.
 
Mock26
2022-10-10 8:14:40 PM  

Stud Gerbil: Walk paths like this all the time and there are five basic types of people:
1) walkers
2) runners
3) cyclists
4) hordes who walk very slowly, three or four abreast, blocking at least half the path
5) dog walkers who let the dog walk all over the path and try to trip everyone  else with the leash.

Hating on cyclists is fine, but the last two groups are far, far worse.


Yarp. I used to do a lot of skating along Chicago's Lakefront Trail and saw it all the time. Chicago also has CARA, a running group, and they tend run in blob formation and take up the walking and the cycling lane. But the ones I hate the most are the parents who let their kids run all over the place. I do not hate the kids because kids will be kids, but some parents just let their kids run all over the place. I thankfully never collided with a kid (came close a few times) but I saw a few collisions with kids, and it is not a site you want to see.
 
The_Sponge [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 8:16:32 PM  

whidbey: It was always a clstrf*ck trying to ride on that path.  Just too many people.


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Danger Avoid Death
2022-10-10 8:18:11 PM  

New Rising Sun: e-bikes and one-wheels will fark that up in no time.  They are the biggest offenders -- the only ones really -- on our local mixed-use paths.


From the article: Motorized wheels, such as electric bikes and scooters, are still banned.
I'm assuming that one-wheels will fall under this category as motorized.
 
Magnanimous_J
2022-10-10 8:18:41 PM  

0z79: Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.

That's funny, this past Friday I had to dodge two kids riding their bikes through a freaking Safeway. I think the problem is people being raised with a sense of entitlement, maybe breeders not bothering to raise civilized human beings.

Plus lack of education. If you look down and see you're walking over a symbol that looks like someone on a bike; MOVE OUT OF THE BIKE LANE before you get hit! MAYBE teach your crotch-fruit the same thing, if you can work it into your busy schedule of teaching them that the rest of the world exists just for them.


I don't have any kids. I just really farking hate cyclists.
 
Trocadero
2022-10-10 8:19:39 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: New Rising Sun: e-bikes and one-wheels will fark that up in no time.  They are the biggest offenders -- the only ones really -- on our local mixed-use paths.

From the article: Motorized wheels, such as electric bikes and scooters, are still banned.
I'm assuming that one-wheels will fall under this category as motorized.


Do hipsters w/ waxed mustaches still ride unicycles? I remember that being a thing 20 years ago.
 
0z79
2022-10-10 8:21:51 PM  

Magnanimous_J: 0z79: Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.

That's funny, this past Friday I had to dodge two kids riding their bikes through a freaking Safeway. I think the problem is people being raised with a sense of entitlement, maybe breeders not bothering to raise civilized human beings.

Plus lack of education. If you look down and see you're walking over a symbol that looks like someone on a bike; MOVE OUT OF THE BIKE LANE before you get hit! MAYBE teach your crotch-fruit the same thing, if you can work it into your busy schedule of teaching them that the rest of the world exists just for them.

I don't have any kids. I just really farking hate cyclists.


That's fine, per my last post you're part of the reason I'm gonna start riding armed or not at all.
 
Thank You Black Jesus! [BareFark]
2022-10-10 8:23:30 PM  

TwoHead: We have a path like that here along the river. I don't use it much anymore, but I used to both walk and bike there. When I did there were a few bikes going too fast, but most of the problems were from pedestrians walking in the bike lane. I rode up on a group of mamas walking four wide with their strollers once. Slowed down to their pace behind them and said good morning, then asked them if they knew they were in the bike lane. They seemed surprised so I mentioned that if they looked down the pictures would help them figure it out. No matter how many times I pointed out the pictures on the ground I never stopped finding the humor in the faces people made when you did that.


"oh i figured it was ok.  i spawned, you see.  it's nature's miracle."
 
Thank You Black Jesus! [BareFark]
2022-10-10 8:24:03 PM  

El_Dan: Hopefully that bright yellow line in the picture helps remind everyone to be polite and keep right except to pass.


you've never met any people, have you?
 
Danger Avoid Death
2022-10-10 8:26:17 PM  

Trocadero: Danger Avoid Death: New Rising Sun: e-bikes and one-wheels will fark that up in no time.  They are the biggest offenders -- the only ones really -- on our local mixed-use paths.

From the article: Motorized wheels, such as electric bikes and scooters, are still banned.
I'm assuming that one-wheels will fall under this category as motorized.

Do hipsters w/ waxed mustaches still ride unicycles? I remember that being a thing 20 years ago.


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Magnanimous_J
2022-10-10 8:30:30 PM  

0z79: Magnanimous_J: 0z79: Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.

That's funny, this past Friday I had to dodge two kids riding their bikes through a freaking Safeway. I think the problem is people being raised with a sense of entitlement, maybe breeders not bothering to raise civilized human beings.

Plus lack of education. If you look down and see you're walking over a symbol that looks like someone on a bike; MOVE OUT OF THE BIKE LANE before you get hit! MAYBE teach your crotch-fruit the same thing, if you can work it into your busy schedule of teaching them that the rest of the world exists just for them.

I don't have any kids. I just really farking hate cyclists.

That's fine, per my last post you're part of the reason I'm gonna start riding armed or not at all.


My vote is for "not at all"
 
0z79
2022-10-10 8:43:46 PM  

Magnanimous_J: 0z79: Magnanimous_J: 0z79: Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.

That's funny, this past Friday I had to dodge two kids riding their bikes through a freaking Safeway. I think the problem is people being raised with a sense of entitlement, maybe breeders not bothering to raise civilized human beings.

Plus lack of education. If you look down and see you're walking over a symbol that looks like someone on a bike; MOVE OUT OF THE BIKE LANE before you get hit! MAYBE teach your crotch-fruit the same thing, if you can work it into your busy schedule of teaching them that the rest of the world exists just for them.

I don't have any kids. I just really farking hate cyclists.

That's fine, per my last post you're part of the reason I'm gonna start riding armed or not at all.

My vote is for "not at all"


Sounds like you enjoy the current balance of power. Like you don't enjoy the idea of someone you see as weak being able to defend themselves.... one could extrapolate many troubling hypotheses on your character from this.
 
Monocultured
2022-10-10 8:47:24 PM  
Pedestrian NIMBYs love monopolizing green lake, and all the other parks. And complaining about homeless camping. And people living in their cars because the NIMBYs are landlords and need to make their nut. And dogs (except theirs of course). And kids, especially the kind with darker complexions. And "sketchy people" walking to work at the stores that support their NIMBY-ass lifestyle.

Meanwhile bikes have had to head out onto the death race road surrounding it. The amount of salt you can pound could fill an ocean.
 
gameshowhost [OhFark]
2022-10-10 8:48:18 PM  
*note: i despise bikers that ride like imbeciles on multipurposes paths as much as anyone*

... do the two walkers there not understand that 'stay right' applies to them too?

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i mean there are also runners, joggers, plus not everyone walks at the same speed. move your asses over, persons.
 
thrasherrr
2022-10-10 8:57:25 PM  
You mean there is a place where bicyclists ride on the bike path instead of on the highway right beside it?

/I'll trade our cyclists for yours
//I'll sweeten the deal with some joggers who think they need to be in the street when a sidewalk is right there
///Still not sure what to do with people riding scooters. Too fast for the pedwalk, too slow for the highway, and no brakes to speak of.
 
Froman
2022-10-10 9:37:56 PM  

Karma Chameleon: On crowded days I never understood why people even tried to bike around the inner loop, seems like too much of a hassle.

/one of my favorite places in the city


Seemed like the safest way to bike from E Green Lake to Greenwood and points north, rather than risk riding in the road around Green Lake and figuring out how to get through that mess. Half the time I somehow found myself riding in the wrong direction and wondering how I'm still on NE 65th street going east.

That was 10 years ago. According to KOMO that whole place is now just homeless people, used needles and poop.
 
erik-k [OhFark]
2022-10-10 9:38:38 PM  

gameshowhost: *note: i despise bikers that ride like imbeciles on multipurposes paths as much as anyone*

... do the two walkers there not understand that 'stay right' applies to them too?

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i mean there are also runners, joggers, plus not everyone walks at the same speed. move your asses over, persons.


Two things scare me when riding my bike:

- People walking down the middle or flat out on the wrong side of the path. These are terrifying because if they're that goddamn clueless, you basically need to slow to a crawl to pass them because you got no idea what the hell they'll do if you say "on your left." The best is when they react by getting on the left side of the path.

- Phone zombies who I'm amazed haven't just walked straight off the sidewalk into traffic yet. Holy shiat, you're on a street dumbass, at least look up from your zombie rectangle every 10 or 15 seconds. Being in America, the Asian college kid phone zombies are the worst because they do this WHILE walking on the wrong side of the path.

And this sort of thing is why I've sworn I will never, ever, ever own a bike without disk brakes again.
 
JohnBigBootay
2022-10-10 9:41:06 PM  

Monocultured: Pedestrian NIMBYs love monopolizing green lake, and all the other parks. And complaining about homeless camping. And people living in their cars because the NIMBYs are landlords and need to make their nut. And dogs (except theirs of course). And kids, especially the kind with darker complexions. And "sketchy people" walking to work at the stores that support their NIMBY-ass lifestyle.

Meanwhile bikes have had to head out onto the death race road surrounding it. The amount of salt you can pound could fill an ocean.


Oh hush. iat's 100/1 walkers to bikes on it's worst day. No one is 'exercise biking' on a shy three mile track filled with baby carriages and chihuahas. They're beach cruising at best. The burke gillmann is less than a mile away, it exists for bikers and it's actually long enough you can't bike the entire thing in five minutes.
 
gameshowhost [OhFark]
2022-10-10 9:45:57 PM  

erik-k: gameshowhost: *note: i despise bikers that ride like imbeciles on multipurposes paths as much as anyone*

... do the two walkers there not understand that 'stay right' applies to them too?

[Fark user image 850x583]

i mean there are also runners, joggers, plus not everyone walks at the same speed. move your asses over, persons.

Two things scare me when riding my bike:

- People walking down the middle or flat out on the wrong side of the path. These are terrifying because if they're that goddamn clueless, you basically need to slow to a crawl to pass them because you got no idea what the hell they'll do if you say "on your left." The best is when they react by getting on the left side of the path.

- Phone zombies who I'm amazed haven't just walked straight off the sidewalk into traffic yet. Holy shiat, you're on a street dumbass, at least look up from your zombie rectangle every 10 or 15 seconds. Being in America, the Asian college kid phone zombies are the worst because they do this WHILE walking on the wrong side of the path.

And this sort of thing is why I've sworn I will never, ever, ever own a bike without disk brakes again.


we get lots of wrong siders here too. it's amazing because on almost every section of the path they can see for at least a couple hundred yards in front of them, bare minimum, and everyone else is following convention... yet can't be arsed to just figure it the fark out. like it's too difficult? oh! and 'running into the direction of traffic' is for when you're on a street with motor vehicles, not when you're on a farking *path* you absolute goddamned dimwits ( -__-)
 
MIRV888
2022-10-10 10:21:23 PM  
Another great thing about Louisville KY,
none of this is an issue.
Ride your bike wherever the hell you want.  No one walks anywhere so the sidewalks are your own personal freeways.  Bike lanes are for trash storage.
 
inner ted
2022-10-11 1:30:09 AM  

TheRedMonkey: Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.

Usually, self-centered oblivious parents letting their kids do whatever they no matter the inconvenience to others.


Now we call dog owners "parents" lol
 
inner ted
2022-10-11 1:31:02 AM  

steve_wmn: TheRedMonkey: Magnanimous_J: Can't wait to watch overly aggressive beta males yelling at little kids for not getting out of the way fast enough.

Usually, self-centered oblivious parents letting their kids do whatever they no matter the inconvenience to others.

Or the dogs on a 20 foot flexi-leash fully extended and stretching across the pedestrian path and the bike path.


Only two scrolls down but na , I had a point
 
inner ted
2022-10-11 1:33:10 AM  

0z79: Stud Gerbil: Walk paths like this all the time and there are five basic types of people:
1) walkers
2) runners
3) cyclists
4) hordes who walk very slowly, three or four abreast, blocking at least half the path
5) dog walkers who let the dog walk all over the path and try to trip everyone  else with the leash.

Hating on cyclists is fine, but the last two groups are far, far worse.

I let myself get intimidated off my bike by cyclist haters, mainly because they ride around in two-ton vehicles and hate the healthy like the dead hate the living. I'm thinking it's time to get out of that mindset and start packing heat.

Place less value on my life 'cause I cycle, fine. But I ain't going down without a fight.


I'm sure I could ride with you but  I bet you ride like an asshole
 
Danger Avoid Death
2022-10-11 1:46:22 AM  

inner ted: I'm sure I could ride with you but I bet you ride like an asshole


Does that require removing the bicycle seat?
 
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