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(Daily Record (UK))   Glasgow pub boss claims King Charles III will be coronated in front of 'fake' Stone of Destiny, says his rule will be a fairy tale fantasy because the real on was stolen in 1950. Because as we all know, coronations aren't legit unless they happen in front of a magical rock   (dailyrecord.co.uk) divider line
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felching pen [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 7:20:57 AM  
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treesloth [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 10:06:38 AM  
That rock isn't valid because it has a gold fringe; therefore, admiralty law applies.
 
Chief Superintendent Lookout
2022-10-10 10:07:07 AM  
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
 
Im_Gumby
2022-10-10 10:07:34 AM  
Psssh... why is this an issue?

Simply go to the Mirror of Erised and know that you need one.
 
backhand.slap.of.reason
2022-10-10 10:07:40 AM  
I'm surprised he was even able to make joinder with the reporter.  Are y'all sure this isn't just fake news?
 
Sin_City_Superhero
2022-10-10 10:08:39 AM  
Just out of curiosity...what does the mailman think?
 
Ed Willy
2022-10-10 10:09:22 AM  
Strange women, lying in ponds, distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!
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ReluctantLondon
2022-10-10 10:09:44 AM  
It's been a long time since I last re-read The Fifth Elephant...
 
Metaluna Mutant
2022-10-10 10:09:47 AM  
But does the stone have a gold fringe?
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 10:10:36 AM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.


Then what? He put the sword in a stone so he could pull it back out? Or had he already pulled it out of the stone and thrown it in the water?

\I'll go get on the cart.
 
BitwiseShift
2022-10-10 10:12:44 AM  
It'll bet that story sells a lot of IRN BRU at his Pub or is it Qub?
 
Raug the Dwarf
2022-10-10 10:15:56 AM  

ReluctantLondon: It's been a long time since I last re-read The Fifth Elephant...


I was going to make a Vimes reference but you beat me to it.
 
patrick767
2022-10-10 10:17:47 AM  
wtf is a "pub boss"? It sounds like it may be relevant to my interests. How do I become one?
 
iheartscotch
2022-10-10 10:18:13 AM  
It IS England...

Magic rock! Or it doesn't count!
 
Dave and the Mission [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 10:22:17 AM  

Raug the Dwarf: ReluctantLondon: It's been a long time since I last re-read The Fifth Elephant...

I was going to make a Vimes reference but you beat me to it.


I was going to bring up "The Scone of Stone".  I think that one's from Thud.
 
phalamir [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 10:22:59 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Chief Superintendent Lookout: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

Then what? He put the sword in a stone so he could pull it back out? Or had he already pulled it out of the stone and thrown it in the water?

\I'll go get on the cart.


It's actually two different swords.
 
Chief Superintendent Lookout
2022-10-10 10:26:18 AM  
I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 10:27:17 AM  

phalamir: Uchiha_Cycliste: Chief Superintendent Lookout: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

Then what? He put the sword in a stone so he could pull it back out? Or had he already pulled it out of the stone and thrown it in the water?

\I'll go get on the cart.

It's actually two different swords.


Do you need both to be king?  What if one bloke has one sword and some highlander has the other, do they battle for the crown?
 
ReluctantLondon
2022-10-10 10:29:28 AM  

Dave and the Mission: Raug the Dwarf: ReluctantLondon: It's been a long time since I last re-read The Fifth Elephant...

I was going to make a Vimes reference but you beat me to it.

I was going to bring up "The Scone of Stone".  I think that one's from Thud.


Although both books involve a theft, it's the theft of the Scone of Stone that's covered in The Fifth Elephant; it's the theft of the painting of the Battle of Koom Valley that's covered in Thud! :)
 
Fissile
2022-10-10 10:35:17 AM  
What does he need that magic rock for?  Isn't the watery scimitar enough?
 
FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 10:35:40 AM  
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tommyl66
2022-10-10 10:36:05 AM  
So he's saying it's a...

*dons sunglasses*

...sham rock?
 
The Irresponsible Captain [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 10:40:49 AM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.


After the last few years I'm starting to wonder if strange women in ponds isn't a better idea.
 
Tillmaster
2022-10-10 10:40:59 AM  
Even if it's fake, it's still the thing and the whole of the thing.
 
PoweredByIrony
2022-10-10 11:03:06 AM  

tommyl66: So he's saying it's a...

*dons sunglasses*

...sham rock?


Yeah
 
Pestifer [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 11:03:33 AM  
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Bondith
2022-10-10 11:12:33 AM  
Well, technically I guess he'll only be King of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and all his Other Realms and Territories (as well as being Lord of Mann and Duke of Normandy But Only On A Few Islands).  It's just in Scotland that the Stone of Gone confers kingship.
 
latexalibi [BareFark]
2022-10-10 11:15:53 AM  
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fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-10 11:21:40 AM  
Reality is the billions of dollars the Brits pay to keep their monarchy looking shiny. How many people have starved to death under the yoke of the commonwealth while those people play at their fairytale reindeer games?
 
Trocadero
2022-10-10 11:26:11 AM  
20ish years ago, our museum guide in Edinburgh made a similar claim. The next monarch wouldn't be legitimate in Scotland w/o the Stone, and since the UK includes Scotland, the whole thing falls apart. Granted, he had a smirk the whole time, but 20ish years ago, I don't think he'd see Brexit, either.
 
yakmans_dad
2022-10-10 11:38:40 AM  
"coronated"?

Was "crowned" in Ukraine?

There's a drollery in a John Crowe Ransome poem about nightingales. The poet reports that he pernoctated in Oxford. Which means in the most arcane language possible: "spent the night".
 
snowjack [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-10 12:30:59 PM  

Bondith: Well, technically I guess he'll only be King of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and all his Other Realms and Territories (as well as being Lord of Mann and Duke of Normandy But Only On A Few Islands).  It's just in Scotland that the Stone of Gone confers kingship.


And the pub boss was from Glasgow, so who knows what he really said. My money says the reporter met with him, took some notes about what he thought the guy was probably saying, then couldn't make sense of them and made up a story to meet his deadline.
 
Flowery Twats
2022-10-10 12:40:52 PM  

treesloth: That rock isn't valid because it has a gold fringe; therefore, admiralty law applies.


Remove the Stone of Shame.
Attach the Stone of Triumph!
 
phalamir [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 12:53:31 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: phalamir: Uchiha_Cycliste: Chief Superintendent Lookout: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

Then what? He put the sword in a stone so he could pull it back out? Or had he already pulled it out of the stone and thrown it in the water?

\I'll go get on the cart.

It's actually two different swords.

Do you need both to be king?  What if one bloke has one sword and some highlander has the other, do they battle for the crown?


The sword pulled from the stone got broken.  The Lady of the Lake gave Arthur Excalibur as a replacement.
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 12:59:46 PM  

phalamir: Uchiha_Cycliste: phalamir: Uchiha_Cycliste: Chief Superintendent Lookout: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

Then what? He put the sword in a stone so he could pull it back out? Or had he already pulled it out of the stone and thrown it in the water?

\I'll go get on the cart.

It's actually two different swords.

Do you need both to be king?  What if one bloke has one sword and some highlander has the other, do they battle for the crown?

The sword pulled from the stone got broken.  The Lady of the Lake gave Arthur Excalibur as a replacement.


Thanks!

I've been wondering about this on and off for years.
 
LouisZepher
2022-10-10 1:29:28 PM  

Dave and the Mission: Raug the Dwarf: ReluctantLondon: It's been a long time since I last re-read The Fifth Elephant...

I was going to make a Vimes reference but you beat me to it.

I was going to bring up "The Scone of Stone".  I think that one's from Thud.


No, Scone of Stone is Fifth Elephant. Thud had that 3d panoramic painting of Koom Valley.
 
MythDragon
2022-10-10 3:30:31 PM  
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"He has the stone of destiny."
 
LOLITROLU
2022-10-10 8:35:44 PM  
Well, yes?  And blessed by the Pope.
What part of "divine right of kings" sounds like it won't involve supernatural elements? If you don't have the magic rock and papal blessing, you don't have a divine right. What are you left with then, "consent of the governed"?
 
claytonemery [TotalFark]
2022-10-10 10:00:40 PM  
The sword pulled from the stone got broken.  The Lady of the Lake gave Arthur Excalibur as a replacement.

Yeah, but, to be even more confusing, the sword in the stone (actually, the sword jammed through an ANVIL sitting atop a stone) was named Caliburn.  And CAL-a-BURn is really close to Ex-CAL-i-BUR.  (Maybe the "Ex" is medieval for "2.0".)

(This is how you get a sword out of a stone, incidentally.  You make a two-piece stone mold, puddle in steel or bronze, then crack it open and dump out a sword.)

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Trocadero
2022-10-10 10:20:59 PM  

LOLITROLU: Well, yes?  And blessed by the Pope.
What part of "divine right of kings" sounds like it won't involve supernatural elements? If you don't have the magic rock and papal blessing, you don't have a divine right. What are you left with then, "consent of the governed"?


I don't think the English monarchs have had a papal blessing in well over 400 years.
 
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