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2022-10-09 8:25:27 AM  
"....getting vaccinated and boosted appears to be one of the simplest ways to significantly reduce your risk."

Sigh.. And yet people won't
 
2022-10-09 11:55:42 AM  
"Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?
 
2022-10-09 11:57:35 AM  
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2022-10-09 11:57:46 AM  

leeto2: "....getting vaccinated and boosted appears to be one of the simplest ways to significantly reduce your risk."

Sigh.. And yet people won't


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2022-10-09 12:01:11 PM  

Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?


I'm up for my 4th shortly, and since it's an updated shot designed to target more recent variants, it will indeed continue to increase my resistance to COVID.

There are four things going on that your joke ignores: 1) it takes at least a couple of exposures to get your immune system to respond optimally, 2) your immunity fades over time regardless, 3) new variants arise as large populations of the unvaccinated continue to breed them, and 4) increasing the effectiveness is like Xeno's footrace - you're closing that gap in smaller and smaller increments and will never reach 100%.
 
2022-10-09 12:02:48 PM  
Meh, Humanity was due for a purge anyway. All species need to be in balance. Life, uh, finds a way.
 
2022-10-09 12:03:11 PM  
I think it's wonderful when stupid people die. Bring the new disease on. It weeds out trump filth.
 
2022-10-09 12:04:48 PM  
About to get my 5th shot, just been waiting for the better varient coverage. Glad I'm in introvert I hate being sick.
 
2022-10-09 12:08:52 PM  
"The most described symptoms of long COVID include fatigue, reduced exercise capacity, breathing problems, brain fog and loss of taste or smell,"

I had all that. I think the covid shiat went away after about a year.  I kind of marked it.  I was like, Wow, I can walk and breathe again!  This is -- different.
I had covid so long again, already, that it's just a memory.  But I do remember how it wore me out, forever.
 
2022-10-09 12:12:20 PM  

Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?


You actually protect other people nearby. It's AOE vaccination.
 
2022-10-09 12:13:50 PM  

leeto2: "....getting vaccinated and boosted appears to be one of the simplest ways to significantly reduce your risk."

Sigh.. And yet people won't


I'd go for making Covid much more lethal in exchange for making the vaccines much more effective. Let's just get this thing settled.
 
2022-10-09 12:14:52 PM  
if we stop talking about it, it will go away on it's own

/maybe use some UV light way up inside you
 
2022-10-09 12:14:55 PM  
CSB/
Before my last shot, the Nurse was checking my paperwork and noticed a discrepancy.

I had written 2 for vaccines, she indicated that this will be my forth. She then showed me that my card showed 3 shots and today was the forth.

Yes, but one of them was a two-part vaccine.

// CSB
 
2022-10-09 12:18:34 PM  
I will never tire of calling ppl who think this is like the flu, that it's endemic, that we just have to live with it the dumbest c*nts in society right now.
 
2022-10-09 12:19:10 PM  

Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?


Lucky you. No one has the bivalent booster in my area. And yet, story after story about how people aren't getting it. Well, it's true. I think companies are waiting until the federal money runs out and they can charge whatever they want for bivalent.
 
2022-10-09 12:20:45 PM  
I've been being lazy about getting the covalent booster. Maybe now is the time to get off my ass.
 
2022-10-09 12:21:29 PM  

natazha: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

Lucky you. No one has the bivalent booster in my area. And yet, story after story about how people aren't getting it. Well, it's true. I think companies are waiting until the federal money runs out and they can charge whatever they want for bivalent.


Take a road trip to New Mexico, we have the new booster.
 
2022-10-09 12:21:55 PM  

leeto2: "....getting vaccinated and boosted appears to be one of the simplest ways to significantly reduce your risk."

Sigh.. And yet people won't


Is this where I point out that experts are often wrong and therefore you should just do what you feel is right for you?

Also you can't tell me what to do, your not my real dad/president/government.
 
2022-10-09 12:22:27 PM  

Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?


Hey I've been vaccinated, but I'm not treating it like Pokémon.
 
2022-10-09 12:24:30 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: I will never tire of calling ppl who think this is like the flu, that it's endemic, that we just have to live with it the dumbest c*nts in society right now.


I regret to inform you it is endemic. We will be living with it forever.

But it's not the flu, that's true.
 
2022-10-09 12:24:56 PM  
I'm vaxxed and boosted, but I avoid people anyway because the chemicals in their perfume, cologne and body products give me raging migraines. People already make me sick.

It sucks, because I can't go out and do anything that doesn't involve isolation or a small group of understanding friends. But I pretty much hate people now, anyway, and have saved a ton of money in the process.
 
2022-10-09 12:25:16 PM  

natazha: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

Lucky you. No one has the bivalent booster in my area. And yet, story after story about how people aren't getting it. Well, it's true. I think companies are waiting until the federal money runs out and they can charge whatever they want for bivalent.


I'm getting tons of available appointments at Walgreens for the Pfizer (very limited for Moderna) within the next week or two putting Salem Oregon into my search.  Maybe you're in the heart of downtown Portland but a short trip to Trumpy land (I know there's tons of that in Oregon and southern Washington) will probably get you more availability.
 
2022-10-09 12:25:47 PM  

jerryskid: I think it's wonderful when stupid people die. Bring the new disease on. It weeds out trump filth.


Funny and smart. Hatefully, on both counts, to be sure...
But still. Funny.
And smart.
 
2022-10-09 12:26:15 PM  
Joe Biden said "pandemic is over" and is not even pushing for a new bill with funding for more boosters post-December.

Meanwhile, more and more companies are trying to move to hybrid situations, and are even dropping their COVID vaccination policies. Which means that even if you're vaccinated and boosted, Karen Farknut in the cubicle next to you might be an anti-vaxxer idiot who could catch it and spread it to you and then the company doesn't even give you extra sick time to deal with it.

But, that's life in Joe Biden's 'Murica. We are still dealing with a full on pandemic, the president says it's over, and the Democrats won't even try to pass paid sick leave nevertheless mandated Medicaid for All.
 
2022-10-09 12:26:56 PM  

NM Volunteer: natazha: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

Lucky you. No one has the bivalent booster in my area. And yet, story after story about how people aren't getting it. Well, it's true. I think companies are waiting until the federal money runs out and they can charge whatever they want for bivalent.

Take a road trip to New Mexico, we have the new booster.


Just got my fifth. Fortunately, availability is high in NJ. I called at 1:00 pm a few weeks ago, was able to get an appointment at 2:00 pm, only 10 minutes from my house.
 
2022-10-09 12:27:09 PM  

Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?


Oh crap you overflowed the stats.  It flips and now you have a 2% higher chance, sorry.
 
2022-10-09 12:27:24 PM  

Communist Middleschool Student: rzrwiresunrise: I will never tire of calling ppl who think this is like the flu, that it's endemic, that we just have to live with it the dumbest c*nts in society right now.

I regret to inform you it is endemic. We will be living with it forever.

But it's not the flu, that's true.


What does endemic mean to you, personally?
 
2022-10-09 12:27:51 PM  

Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?


Yes, unfortunately turning the dial 102% swings you back around to 98% likelihood of developing long covid.
 
2022-10-09 12:28:24 PM  

natazha: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

Lucky you. No one has the bivalent booster in my area. And yet, story after story about how people aren't getting it. Well, it's true. I think companies are waiting until the federal money runs out and they can charge whatever they want for bivalent.


It was just opened up in my area for general population last week, got signed up through Rexall if any fellow Ontarians are finding the provincial distribution options to be particular thin/inadequate this round.
 
2022-10-09 12:28:58 PM  

jerryskid: I think it's wonderful when stupid people die. Bring the new disease on. It weeds out trump filth.


OK, but what's your opinion on stupid people with chronic COVID driving up your insurance premiums indefinitely?
 
2022-10-09 12:29:05 PM  

DrKillPatient: NM Volunteer: natazha: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

Lucky you. No one has the bivalent booster in my area. And yet, story after story about how people aren't getting it. Well, it's true. I think companies are waiting until the federal money runs out and they can charge whatever they want for bivalent.

Take a road trip to New Mexico, we have the new booster.

Just got my fifth. Fortunately, availability is high in NJ. I called at 1:00 pm a few weeks ago, was able to get an appointment at 2:00 pm, only 10 minutes from my house.


I stuck my butt out the window and they shot me with a dart from a moving van.
 
2022-10-09 12:30:22 PM  

noitsnot: DrKillPatient: NM Volunteer: natazha: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

Lucky you. No one has the bivalent booster in my area. And yet, story after story about how people aren't getting it. Well, it's true. I think companies are waiting until the federal money runs out and they can charge whatever they want for bivalent.

Take a road trip to New Mexico, we have the new booster.

Just got my fifth. Fortunately, availability is high in NJ. I called at 1:00 pm a few weeks ago, was able to get an appointment at 2:00 pm, only 10 minutes from my house.

I stuck my butt out the window and they shot me with a dart from a moving van.


OK, but when are you going to get your booster :)
 
2022-10-09 12:32:17 PM  

noitsnot: DrKillPatient: NM Volunteer: natazha: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

Lucky you. No one has the bivalent booster in my area. And yet, story after story about how people aren't getting it. Well, it's true. I think companies are waiting until the federal money runs out and they can charge whatever they want for bivalent.

Take a road trip to New Mexico, we have the new booster.

Just got my fifth. Fortunately, availability is high in NJ. I called at 1:00 pm a few weeks ago, was able to get an appointment at 2:00 pm, only 10 minutes from my house.

I stuck my butt out the window and they shot me with a dart from a moving van.


The public health clinic is not your personal erotica site
 
2022-10-09 12:33:18 PM  

misanthropicsob: Joe Biden said "pandemic is over" and is not even pushing for a new bill with funding for more boosters post-December.

Meanwhile, more and more companies are trying to move to hybrid situations, and are even dropping their COVID vaccination policies. Which means that even if you're vaccinated and boosted, Karen Farknut in the cubicle next to you might be an anti-vaxxer idiot who could catch it and spread it to you and then the company doesn't even give you extra sick time to deal with it.

But, that's life in Joe Biden's 'Murica. We are still dealing with a full on pandemic, the president says it's over, and the Democrats won't even try to pass paid sick leave nevertheless mandated Medicaid for All.


lol. Pathetic.
 
2022-10-09 12:33:56 PM  
"Parallel COVID" sounds like just another name for Long COVID, which has been an issue since early in the pandemic.
 
2022-10-09 12:36:35 PM  
About a month ago, my dad collapsed and went to the hospital. He had bilateral pulmonary embolism (i.e. pulmonary embolisms in both lungs) and, following an extended stay, is on the mend. He actually was incredibly lucky that it happened the way it did, since his prognosis is for a full recovery with no permanent damage.

Per his doctor, aside from age (70), he had none of the risk factors usually associated with pulmonary embolisms. My dad also was negative for COVID, but he had a moderate bout of it earlier in the year (fully vaxxed and boosted).  His doctor mentioned they'd been seeing more and more of these sorts of conditions over the last year and suspected long COVID was the culprit.
 
2022-10-09 12:36:39 PM  
Covid-19 infection is invariably chronic.   Those that utilize the Complement System to lyse the virus tend to be symptomatic.  Those that don't tend to not be symptomatic.

I say tend because most people that don't die eventually develop antibodies capable of allosterically denaturing the nucleocapsid's MASP-2 binding location.  Problems arise when they don't make enough of those antibodies.  Allostery is fickle--a single mutation to just about any part of the nucleocapsid can ruin the allosteric effect--so cross variant neutralization is unreliable.  Maybe you get lucky; maybe you don't.  If we are building immunity, we are doing so on a foundation of sand.

Covid is very tricky.  Symptomology is largely dependent upon what is transpiring in the extracellular fluid as the immune system reacts to pieces of the virus. Tissue reservoir damage is overwhelmingly asymptomatic, but is obviously becoming more important as time goes on, as the virus gains a larger share of the body's cellular machinery.  I do not expect the subclinicals to remain subclinical forever--a vast array of time dependent sequelae and associated medical conditions will emerge, as was the case with SARS.
 
2022-10-09 12:36:48 PM  
Oh, No!  Anyways, . . .
 
2022-10-09 12:37:42 PM  

leeto2: "....getting vaccinated and boosted appears to be one of the simplest ways to significantly reduce your risk."

Sigh.. And yet people won't


It's right up there with voting.
 
2022-10-09 12:41:31 PM  

Outshined_One: About a month ago, my dad collapsed and went to the hospital. He had bilateral pulmonary embolism (i.e. pulmonary embolisms in both lungs) and, following an extended stay, is on the mend. He actually was incredibly lucky that it happened the way it did, since his prognosis is for a full recovery with no permanent damage.

Per his doctor, aside from age (70), he had none of the risk factors usually associated with pulmonary embolisms. My dad also was negative for COVID, but he had a moderate bout of it earlier in the year (fully vaxxed and boosted).  His doctor mentioned they'd been seeing more and more of these sorts of conditions over the last year and suspected long COVID was the culprit.


Strokes seem to be getting increasingly common in younger people. My cousin, in her 50s, had a rash of friends in their 50s get strokes this year.

I also had a friend in his 20s get a stroke last month.

They didn't have COVID at the time but had it in the past. And most of them were vaccinated.
 
2022-10-09 12:43:23 PM  

Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?


At that level, you get a water balloon full of covid partiulate solution that you can throw at someone else. That's the 102% immunity.
 
2022-10-09 12:43:54 PM  
I was told I couldn't get parallel covid because my immune system is 32 bits.
 
2022-10-09 12:53:07 PM  
Thankyou farking GOP morons for not wearing a mask or getting vaccinated. You are the shiathead people that caused every variant and mutation to covid.

You all say you had passed Kindergarten by lining up in single file. But, I truly wonder if you can even wipe your own ass. No seriously, it's much more difficult to line up as a Kindergartener that it is for an adult to wipe their ass, how the fark difficult is it to just wear a mask and get vaccinated?

Goddamned idiots.

/GOPers, please keep dying of covid, but at the very least stop killing everyone else.
//I may start smoking everywhere I go, Freedom right?
 
2022-10-09 12:53:29 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

I'm up for my 4th shortly, and since it's an updated shot designed to target more recent variants, it will indeed continue to increase my resistance to COVID.

There are four things going on that your joke ignores: 1) it takes at least a couple of exposures to get your immune system to respond optimally, 2) your immunity fades over time regardless, 3) new variants arise as large populations of the unvaccinated continue to breed them, and 4) increasing the effectiveness is like Xeno's footrace - you're closing that gap in smaller and smaller increments and will never reach 100%.


Yep - on 5 myself because I'm already a wreck and I'm on the edge of functionality on a good day.  Covid would likely destroy me, long Covid would be even worse 'cause it would do it slow.  Fark that noise.  Got 5, still wear masks in enclosed areas with people, because it simply isn't a sane farking option to risk it for me when the worst thing about the precautions is 2-3 days of feeling like hell - big deal I'm used to feeling like hell.  I'd rather not die or even worse end up where I spent my time wishing I could - or even worse infect and kill someone else that hasn't done a damn thing to deserve that kind of nightmare.  End of farking story
 
2022-10-09 12:55:57 PM  

jerryskid: I think it's wonderful when stupid people die. Bring the new disease on. It weeds out trump filth.


I'm the same, except I extend it to more than just COVID.

When people eat themselves to obesity and early death?  Awesome.
When people smoke themselves to lung cancer and early death?  Awesome.
When people drink themselves to alcoholism/cirrhosis and early death?  Awesome.
When people drug themselves into an overdose-induced early death?  Awesome.

And it's why I hope we never have universal tax-supported health care in this country, even though I'd otherwise be in favor of it in principle.  Stupid people who abuse their health shouldn't be rewarded with health care.  They should be rewarded for their stupidity with a bankruptcy-inducing stack of medical bills (if their stupid health choices don't result in a very quick death).
 
2022-10-09 1:01:20 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: I do not expect the subclinicals to remain subclinical forever--a vast array of time dependent sequelae and associated medical conditions will emerge, as was the case with SARS.


Those sequelae are already arising.

As mentioned in a previous post, strokes are happening among younger (<50 years old) COVID patients. Here is a January 2022 article from University of Utah's health department that points out those connections through a catalog of different studies.

This is where all of this is leading.

(Of course, most of Fark is well over 50 and too ornery to have kids so they won't actually care about that)
 
2022-10-09 1:06:54 PM  
Hay on the upside we didn't hurt the economy?
 
2022-10-09 1:08:23 PM  

Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?


So, if one dose is 75%, and two is 84%...

Assuming this is enough to make a pattern, 84-75=9. 100-75=25.

So, in the gap between 75 and 100, 9 takes up 36% of the space left.

Roughly, half 75.

Continuing with sleepy napkin math rambling, the next three would be 18% and 9% and 4% of each remaining gap

1 is 75%
2 is 84%
3 is 87%
4 is 88%
5 is 88.5%

Diminishing returns hiat hard, assuming my likely incorrect math is correct.
 
2022-10-09 1:09:51 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

I'm up for my 4th shortly, and since it's an updated shot designed to target more recent variants, it will indeed continue to increase my resistance to COVID.

There are four things going on that your joke ignores: 1) it takes at least a couple of exposures to get your immune system to respond optimally, 2) your immunity fades over time regardless, 3) new variants arise as large populations of the unvaccinated continue to breed them, and 4) increasing the effectiveness is like Xeno's footrace - you're closing that gap in smaller and smaller increments and will never reach 100%.


Thanks for mentioning that.  I've been holding off on my 2nd booster because I was under the impression that the second booster is only recommended for people over 50.  But since I got my third shot in November of last year, it's recommended that I get my 2nd booster now, because of the updates in the vaccine. :)
 
2022-10-09 1:16:35 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Walker: "Those who had two doses of vaccine before getting COVID had an approximately 75% lower chance of getting long COVID," said Ferrer. "While those who got three doses had an 84% lower chance of getting long COVID."

I've had 5 does, does that give me a 102% lower chance of getting long COVID?

I'm up for my 4th shortly, and since it's an updated shot designed to target more recent variants, it will indeed continue to increase my resistance to COVID.

There are four things going on that your joke ignores: 1) it takes at least a couple of exposures to get your immune system to respond optimally, 2) your immunity fades over time regardless, 3) new variants arise as large populations of the unvaccinated continue to breed them, and 4) increasing the effectiveness is like Xeno's footrace - you're closing that gap in smaller and smaller increments and will never reach 100%.


While they are the primary culprits, it's not just the unvaxxed that breed new variants.  The vax doesn't stop the spread and it can infect and mutate new variants in a vaccinated population as well.

The vaccines don't stop the spread of the virus so much as they improve your chances of not dying and not having severe symptoms.  There's nothing to suggest even a 100% vaccinated population would eradicate the virus or stop new mutations.
 
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