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(AP News)   Who really blew up a key bridge in Crimea? Most fingers are pointing to Ukraine, but that might not be the case   (apnews.com) divider line
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oldernell [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 9:33:57 AM  
Aliens.
 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 10:03:40 AM  
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Albert911emt [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 10:07:48 AM  
So what if Ukraine did blow it up?  They're defending themselves, in a war they didn't start, against an enemy who doesn't give a damn who gets hurt.
 
Sin'sHero [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 10:31:53 AM  
Clearly, it was the North Korean soldiers on loan. They can't read the Russian maps, and thought this was a different bridge.
 
Winterlight [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 11:23:02 AM  

oldernell: Aliens.


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OdradekRex [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 11:24:03 AM  
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BizarreMan [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 11:31:21 AM  
Doesn't photo analysis show the probability of the truck blowing up to be very low?
 
Notabunny [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 11:32:10 AM  
FTA   "The bombing came a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin turned 70,"

'"The secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, tweeted a video with the Kerch Bridge on fire on the left side and video with Marilyn Monroe singing her famous "Happy Birthday Mr. President" on the right."

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Naido [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 11:55:26 AM  
There's so much propaganda flying in so many directions, including from our own government, that it will be years before we know how much of anything being reported out of Ukraine is real.

Assuming we have some ability or desire to perform  investigative journalism after the nuclear holocaust.
 
calbert [recently expired TotalFark]
2022-10-08 1:10:55 PM  
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NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 1:13:21 PM  

Albert911emt: So what if Ukraine did blow it up?  They're defending themselves, in a war they didn't start, against an enemy who doesn't give a damn who gets hurt.


Yes, but Russia needs to have them charged with the attack so Allstate will pay out on the insurance claim without having to pay the $500 deductible.
 
Unobtanium [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 1:17:40 PM  
This was in my Twitter feed when I checked it:

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edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 2:24:34 PM  
Doesn't look like a truck bomb to me and Russia saying it is further lowers the probability.

It was fast, I'll say that, but I can't tell you what.
 
mrshowrules [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 2:56:06 PM  

edmo: Doesn't look like a truck bomb to me and Russia saying it is further lowers the probability.

It was fast, I'll say that, but I can't tell you what.


It is in Russians best interest to have it appear to be a terrorist type action.  A truck bomb narrative is therefore better for them than having the Russians believe it is a military strike.
 
Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:04:14 PM  
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kbronsito
2022-10-08 3:05:11 PM  
You know those ads were they count how many people die daily/hourly from smoking? In Russia, lately, they have been constantly updating those figures to include all the people dying from ship, munition depots, and bridge explosions caused by Ruskie smokers.
 
olorin604
2022-10-08 3:07:06 PM  
Sorry guys, it was me I was trying to drag the map and accidently clicked the bridge and my orbital laser platform fired. My bad.
 
pacified
2022-10-08 3:08:38 PM  
You could just go home Putin. Personally I think he owes reparations too
 
iheartscotch
2022-10-08 3:08:56 PM  

BizarreMan: Doesn't photo analysis show the probability of the truck blowing up to be very low?


There's a video floating around that purports to be a video of the explosion. Everything was fine until the earth-shattering kaboom. To me...it seems like the explosion may have originated on the railroad bridge and not from the car bridge.

/ But....it's a video of an explosion on the internet. It's probably from War Thunder or something
 
scanman61
2022-10-08 3:09:51 PM  

mrshowrules: edmo: Doesn't look like a truck bomb to me and Russia saying it is further lowers the probability.

It was fast, I'll say that, but I can't tell you what.

It is in Russians best interest to have it appear to be a terrorist type action.  A truck bomb narrative is therefore better for them than having the Russians believe it is a military strike.


And what exactly is the difference between a "military strike" and a "terrorist type action" in an active war zone?
 
Hinged
2022-10-08 3:09:55 PM  
Unless I missed something, nowhere in that article does it mention or hint at somebody else other than Ukraine.
 
kbronsito
2022-10-08 3:11:16 PM  

edmo: Doesn't look like a truck bomb to me and Russia saying it is further lowers the probability.

It was fast, I'll say that, but I can't tell you what.


It wasn't a suicide truck bomb. Ukrainians are not gonna do that.

But Russia is moving dozens of trucks already loaded with explosive shiat over the bridge.

Maybe they have an agent willing to add a bomb to detonate a truck full of ordinance or some other shiat that went boom.

The train full of fuel may had been luck. Or enough fuel shipments are moving on that rail that is wasn't so hard to get a two-fer here.
 
Lindseys Lil Ladybugs
2022-10-08 3:12:19 PM  

Hinged: Unless I missed something, nowhere in that article does it mention or hint at somebody else other than Ukraine.


Yeah, I noticed this too.
 
Mr. Shabooboo
2022-10-08 3:13:34 PM  
Ukraine now has space lasers?
 
mrshowrules [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:14:42 PM  

scanman61: mrshowrules: edmo: Doesn't look like a truck bomb to me and Russia saying it is further lowers the probability.

It was fast, I'll say that, but I can't tell you what.

It is in Russians best interest to have it appear to be a terrorist type action.  A truck bomb narrative is therefore better for them than having the Russians believe it is a military strike.

And what exactly is the difference between a "military strike" and a "terrorist type action" in an active war zone?


The word "terrorist' implies illegality and criminality.  Generally speaking, Russians would want to paint all of Ukrainian actions as terrorism.  I agree there is no difference between a truck bomb and a military strike form an ethical perspective.

However, one is just a better narrative to shovel to the Russian public.  Also, they certainly don't want to hype Ukrainian military strength.
 
ZMugg [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 3:14:50 PM  

olorin604: Sorry guys, it was me I was trying to drag the map and accidentally clicked the bridge and my orbital laser platform fired. My bad.


So... you noped out?
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andrewagill [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 3:16:03 PM  
It seems most likely that Ukraine did this but you cannot realistically rule out disgruntled Russian soldiers or palace intrigue.

Which must be absolutely galling to Russian propagandists, who now have a two buttons meme where they have to either acknowledge Ukraine's competence or say it's internal sabotage.

/Though I think they're claiming it's NATO
 
sleze
2022-10-08 3:16:09 PM  
There is a good argument that keeping the bridge until close to the end of the war is in Ukraine's interest because it allows for a Russian retreat (to be an alternative to fight to the last man scenario) but also requires Russia to defend it.  The consideration is if it is more valuable as a resource sink and to prevent suicide troops or as a supply route.

At this point, it is all academic.  The road is destroyed and the rail side is likely useless as the tracks are certain to be weakened to the point of failure because of the heat of the tanker fire.

So if they did it, own it.  If they didn't, take credit for it.
 
mrshowrules [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:16:35 PM  

kbronsito: edmo: Doesn't look like a truck bomb to me and Russia saying it is further lowers the probability.

It was fast, I'll say that, but I can't tell you what.

It wasn't a suicide truck bomb. Ukrainians are not gonna do that.

But Russia is moving dozens of trucks already loaded with explosive shiat over the bridge.

Maybe they have an agent willing to add a bomb to detonate a truck full of ordinance or some other shiat that went boom.

The train full of fuel may had been luck. Or enough fuel shipments are moving on that rail that is wasn't so hard to get a two-fer here.


That would be clever as f$ck.  No matter how Ukraine did it, it is f$cking impressive.
 
clkeagle [BareFark]
2022-10-08 3:17:00 PM  
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Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste [recently expired TotalFark]
2022-10-08 3:18:18 PM  

Hinged: Unless I missed something, nowhere in that article does it mention or hint at somebody else other than Ukraine.


I dunno. It could have been Micronesia or Bhutan.
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:18:36 PM  
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flypusher713
2022-10-08 3:19:14 PM  
Now this is how you troll:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11294211/amp/Happy-birthday-Mr-President-Zelensky-aide-mocks-Vladimir-Putin-Marilyn-Monroe-rendition.html
 
DrD'isInfotainment [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:19:23 PM  
The blast seems to becoming more from underneath the railroad bridge in this shot
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Unsung_Hero
2022-10-08 3:20:26 PM  
I don't think the results could have been any better.  I'm sure a lot of planning and daring went in to making it happen, but from the outside it looks like maybe Ukrainians have taken to using horseshoe suppositories.
 
DrD'isInfotainment [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:20:32 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: The blast seems to becoming more from underneath the railroad bridge in this shot[Fark user image 850x566]


Ok, so maybe that's just the fire from the tanker car.
 
flypusher713
2022-10-08 3:20:36 PM  
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Walker [TotalFark]
2022-10-08 3:20:51 PM  
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, in a video address, indirectly acknowledged the attack on the bridge by talking about the weather in Crimea but did not address its cause.

"Today was a good and mostly sunny day on the territory of our state," he said. "Unfortunately, it was cloudy in Crimea."

Come on man, get the quote right. It's more funny with the warm part, cause it's on fire:

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NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:26:33 PM  

sleze: There is a good argument that keeping the bridge until close to the end of the war is in Ukraine's interest because it allows for a Russian retreat (to be an alternative to fight to the last man scenario) but also requires Russia to defend it.  The consideration is if it is more valuable as a resource sink and to prevent suicide troops or as a supply route.

At this point, it is all academic.  The road is destroyed and the rail side is likely useless as the tracks are certain to be weakened to the point of failure because of the heat of the tanker fire.

So if they did it, own it.  If they didn't, take credit for it.


Russia will not fight to the last man. Ukraine would and has. Russia, when cornered, will surrender outright.
 
scanman61
2022-10-08 3:26:48 PM  

mrshowrules: scanman61: mrshowrules: edmo: Doesn't look like a truck bomb to me and Russia saying it is further lowers the probability.

It was fast, I'll say that, but I can't tell you what.

It is in Russians best interest to have it appear to be a terrorist type action.  A truck bomb narrative is therefore better for them than having the Russians believe it is a military strike.

And what exactly is the difference between a "military strike" and a "terrorist type action" in an active war zone?

The word "terrorist' implies illegality and criminality.  Generally speaking, Russians would want to paint all of Ukrainian actions as terrorism.  I agree there is no difference between a truck bomb and a military strike form an ethical perspective.

However, one is just a better narrative to shovel to the Russian public.  Also, they certainly don't want to hype Ukrainian military strength.


Despite the tendency of the occupiers to use the term, I don't consider an attack by partisans against an occupying military force to be "terrorism".
 
jst3p
2022-10-08 3:27:01 PM  
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"Clearly it was a false flag carried out by the globalists led by Hillary Clinton, George Soros and the Sandy Hook crisis actors!"
 
Slappy Longballs
2022-10-08 3:27:14 PM  

oldernell: Aliens.


I honestly think that is the propagandists' best explanation. Whether it was Ukrainian sabotage or an inside job (or some stupid accident), either situation is humiliating for Putin.

Happy birthday, Mr. President.
 
Paddy [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:27:35 PM  
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minnkat
2022-10-08 3:29:06 PM  
"Unfortunately, it was cloudy really smokey in Crimea."
 
pueblonative
2022-10-08 3:29:18 PM  
The Spanish Inquisition
 
Stands With A Tiny Fist [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-08 3:29:25 PM  

Albert911emt: So what if Ukraine did blow it up?  They're defending themselves, in a war they didn't start, against an enemy who doesn't give a damn who gets hurt.


Against an enemy who goes out of their way to hurt people who don't need to be hurt.

I don't think I particularly care whodunnit. Kudos to whoever did, though. Kept casualties to a minimum, too. Props for that.
 
LrdPhoenix
2022-10-08 3:31:33 PM  

Paddy: [i.imgflip.com image 724x500]


No one knows what it's like
To be the bad man
To be the sad man
Behind blue eyes
 
RasIanI
2022-10-08 3:32:13 PM  
"The Ukrainian postal service announced it would issue stamps commemorating the blast..."

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Mad_Radhu
2022-10-08 3:32:48 PM  
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It was Agatha all along.
 
Name_Omitted
2022-10-08 3:32:55 PM  

Albert911emt: So what if Ukraine did blow it up?  They're defending themselves, in a war they didn't start, against an enemy who doesn't give a damn who gets hurt.


Moscow not placing blame on Ukraine gives them the ability to blame someone else if it is more convenient.  With Putin apparently losing control, placing blame elsewhere may become a convenient option.
 
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