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2022-10-07 2:28:54 PM  
Depression can be a kind of social weight carried by all in a particular community such as Vikings fans.
 
2022-10-07 3:02:58 PM  

Pinnacle Point: Depression can be a kind of social weight carried by all in a particular community such as Vikings fans.


That's why I drink, not why I take Prozac.
 
2022-10-07 3:06:53 PM  
I accidentally stumbled upon the cure for my depression. It's called divorce.
 
2022-10-07 3:08:54 PM  

Pinnacle Point: Depression can be a kind of social weight carried by all in a particular community such as Vikings fans.


Nah. Being a Vikings fan is more like having incurable hemorrhoids. I can't sit and watch a game comfortably.
 
2022-10-07 3:16:51 PM  
Lexapro got me through a tough patch. But I had to go off of it because it made me TOO dull.
 
2022-10-07 3:21:18 PM  

dstanley: Pinnacle Point: Depression can be a kind of social weight carried by all in a particular community such as Vikings fans.

That's why I drink, not why I take Prozac.


Drink to ease the pain- ALCOHOLIC! Take a med to scramble your brain into submission- RESPONSIBLE PSYCHIATRIC PATIENT!
#1 allowed to own guns
#2 PSYCHIATRIC PATIENT! No guns. (So why take the drugs if they don't make you ok to own guns?)
Ask too many questions about psychiatric meds-  ELECTRO SHOCK THERAPY! Then, own guns?
 
2022-10-07 4:46:26 PM  
You just gotta examine your beliefs, then think different

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2022-10-07 4:48:14 PM  

theteacher: Lexapro got me through a tough patch. But I had to go off of it because it made me TOO dull.


On it now, but been debating if I should drop it as I have the opposite reaction.

I overshare...

/I've had a few people say they like this me better.
//No, you like "drunk" me.
///You'll love Drunk me.
 
2022-10-07 4:51:56 PM  

revrendjim: I accidentally stumbled upon the cure for my depression. It's called divorce.


Yes! When I was super depressed I ran across a meme that said "You might not be depressed, you might be surrounded by assholes". I swear to God a light went off in my head: I hated my co-workers because they were assholes.

I switched jobs and wouldn't you know, my depression disappeared.

"Depression pills" make you deal with a bad situation. Sometimes you should try to change the situation.
 
2022-10-07 4:52:45 PM  
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2022-10-07 6:02:15 PM  
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2022-10-07 6:32:59 PM  
It begins as a chemical imbalance that then turns into physical structure.

I'll read TFA but SSRIs have a place in breaking the cycle. They are not a cure but a tool that , along with cognitive behavioral therapy, can help immensely.
 
2022-10-07 6:33:47 PM  
yeah, 13 years is way too farking long to be on meds.
 
2022-10-07 6:45:08 PM  

cretinbob: yeah, 13 years is way too farking long to be on meds.


That's my reasoning.

It gets you through a problem.

I started on SSRIs due to a crap job.  They wanted me working 70+ hours a week doing things I had no business doing.

As I said upthread, I'm on Lexapro.  It may have gotten me through the transition back to my old job.

But...

I'm still on it, and on high octane pint #4 during happy hour at the local bar because HR still hasn't Kickstarted my health insurance yet, so I can't even *start* looking for a local shrink.

This whole thing is bonkers. It's guesswork.
 
2022-10-07 7:46:35 PM  

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Most folk have a poor understanding of what Psych is, thinking that we still worship Freud and just sit around in circles talking about feelings or what our dreams meant.

In my program you took Intro to Psych as a Freshman, and the Research Methods and Intro to Stats as a Sophomore. I always recall the day one student had a meltdown in class because they were informed that Psych progresses less through feeling circles, and more through heeps of dead monkies.

Not our school though. We progressed through heeps of dead pigeons.
 
2022-10-07 8:01:33 PM  
I've had to come off every antidepressant I've tried because while they all made me more motivated, they did nothing for my suicidal thoughts and when all of a sudden you're motivated, and when your first thought of the day is "dammit, I didn't die in my sleep again" well motivation is kind of a bad thing, because it made me want to actually try suicide instead of thinking about it.

that said I've got a number of friends who swear by their medications so I'm not about to write them off, they're just not for me.
 
2022-10-07 8:28:20 PM  

GodComplex: Bith Set Me Up: [Link][Fark user image image 850x141]

Most folk have a poor understanding of what Psych is, thinking that we still worship Freud and just sit around in circles talking about feelings or what our dreams meant.

In my program you took Intro to Psych as a Freshman, and the Research Methods and Intro to Stats as a Sophomore. I always recall the day one student had a meltdown in class because they were informed that Psych progresses less through feeling circles, and more through heeps of dead monkies.

Not our school though. We progressed through heeps of dead pigeons.


Not everyone, but I do know a couple of psychologists that are Freudian. They have...some interesting ideas about how people are structured, for sure.

I'm not in the field, but my wife is, so I don't have QUITE the depth of field to challenge them on some things, but later after a party/dinner, I'll have to confirm with her. "Earlier, when he said the thing about....?" "Yeah, total bullshiat."

She's psychodynamic, but likens Freud to Darwin. "We've come a long damn way."
 
2022-10-07 9:13:32 PM  
Prozac made me not-depressed but being not-depressed is not the same as being well. It was, however, a major improvement over being actually depressed.

I have recently come to the conclusion that a lot of my issues have to do with undiagnosed "high functioning" autism, which my aunt picked up on but which none of the psychiatrists or psychologists I saw as a kid noticed. Though to be fair the depression was a bigger and more present issue.
 
2022-10-07 10:44:26 PM  

freakdiablo: cretinbob: yeah, 13 years is way too farking long to be on meds.

That's my reasoning.

It gets you through a problem.

I started on SSRIs due to a crap job.  They wanted me working 70+ hours a week doing things I had no business doing.

As I said upthread, I'm on Lexapro.  It may have gotten me through the transition back to my old job.

But...

I'm still on it, and on high octane pint #4 during happy hour at the local bar because HR still hasn't Kickstarted my health insurance yet, so I can't even *start* looking for a local shrink.

This whole thing is bonkers. It's guesswork.


I think that some day it will be discovered than some, not all, but some mental illness is due to dysfunction of the endocannabinoid system and that plant based therapy is safer and more effective.
 
2022-10-07 11:06:45 PM  

replacementcool: I've had to come off every antidepressant I've tried because while they all made me more motivated, they did nothing for my suicidal thoughts and when all of a sudden you're motivated, and when your first thought of the day is "dammit, I didn't die in my sleep again" well motivation is kind of a bad thing, because it made me want to actually try suicide instead of thinking about it.

that said I've got a number of friends who swear by their medications so I'm not about to write them off, they're just not for me.


I may be oversharing here, but the biggest problem I've had with SSRI's is a complete inability to climax.

I don't know if they even helped my mood, but I'd rather be a bit down and able to achieve orgasm than medicated and rubbing my little weeny raw.
 
2022-10-07 11:19:04 PM  

GodComplex: Bith Set Me Up: [Link][Fark user image image 850x141]

Most folk have a poor understanding of what Psych is, thinking that we still worship Freud and just sit around in circles talking about feelings or what our dreams meant.

In my program you took Intro to Psych as a Freshman, and the Research Methods and Intro to Stats as a Sophomore. I always recall the day one student had a meltdown in class because they were informed that Psych progresses less through feeling circles, and more through heeps of dead monkies.

Not our school though. We progressed through heeps of dead pigeons.


Some people become very upset when they find out humans are herd animals and no one is truly unique
 
2022-10-07 11:23:51 PM  

iron de havilland: replacementcool: I've had to come off every antidepressant I've tried because while they all made me more motivated, they did nothing for my suicidal thoughts and when all of a sudden you're motivated, and when your first thought of the day is "dammit, I didn't die in my sleep again" well motivation is kind of a bad thing, because it made me want to actually try suicide instead of thinking about it.

that said I've got a number of friends who swear by their medications so I'm not about to write them off, they're just not for me.

I may be oversharing here, but the biggest problem I've had with SSRI's is a complete inability to climax.

I don't know if they even helped my mood, but I'd rather be a bit down and able to achieve orgasm than medicated and rubbing my little weeny raw.


Nah that was an issue I had with SSRIs too, it was legitimately miserable.
 
2022-10-08 2:50:22 AM  

JTtheCajun: GodComplex: Bith Set Me Up: [Link][Fark user image image 850x141]

Most folk have a poor understanding of what Psych is, thinking that we still worship Freud and just sit around in circles talking about feelings or what our dreams meant.

In my program you took Intro to Psych as a Freshman, and the Research Methods and Intro to Stats as a Sophomore. I always recall the day one student had a meltdown in class because they were informed that Psych progresses less through feeling circles, and more through heeps of dead monkies.

Not our school though. We progressed through heeps of dead pigeons.

Not everyone, but I do know a couple of psychologists that are Freudian. They have...some interesting ideas about how people are structured, for sure.

I'm not in the field, but my wife is, so I don't have QUITE the depth of field to challenge them on some things, but later after a party/dinner, I'll have to confirm with her. "Earlier, when he said the thing about....?" "Yeah, total bullshiat."

She's psychodynamic, but likens Freud to Darwin. "We've come a long damn way."


Darwin's research forms the basis of modern biology. The vast majority of Freud's work has been disproven and no longer informs any serious area of study in psychology.
 
2022-10-08 4:05:39 AM  

replacementcool: iron de havilland: replacementcool: I've had to come off every antidepressant I've tried because while they all made me more motivated, they did nothing for my suicidal thoughts and when all of a sudden you're motivated, and when your first thought of the day is "dammit, I didn't die in my sleep again" well motivation is kind of a bad thing, because it made me want to actually try suicide instead of thinking about it.

that said I've got a number of friends who swear by their medications so I'm not about to write them off, they're just not for me.

I may be oversharing here, but the biggest problem I've had with SSRI's is a complete inability to climax.

I don't know if they even helped my mood, but I'd rather be a bit down and able to achieve orgasm than medicated and rubbing my little weeny raw.

Nah that was an issue I had with SSRIs too, it was legitimately miserable.


I think for some people, at least, SSRIs are just a more effective trigger for the placebo effect than sugar pills. You know it's doing something, which gives you hope for a while.

The placebos that are put against SSRIs in efficacy studies wouldn't be giving people the same side effects...
 
2022-10-08 11:59:15 AM  
and I think one of the things many people don't understand is that there is a physiology behind it. It is all electricity and chemicals, but those things build structure in the brain as well. As medical imaging of the brain advances and the resolution gets tighter we will learn amazing things.
 
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