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(Metro)   Attention, UK: if you lose power this winter, it's Liz Truss's fault   (metro.co.uk) divider line
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2022-10-07 6:51:11 PM  
The can burn their passports for heat.
 
2022-10-07 6:51:39 PM  
If only there was some sort of organization that a country could belong to that could supply it all the power it needed....
 
2022-10-07 6:54:07 PM  
Lose power? When pigs fly!

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2022-10-07 6:54:13 PM  
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Don't be afraid. Just... Truss... in me...
 
2022-10-07 6:56:23 PM  
Approves

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2022-10-07 7:01:20 PM  

Phil McKraken: The can burn their passports for heat.


Good thing they're blue now.  Blue flame is the hottest heat.
 
2022-10-07 7:05:40 PM  
She can split a Cancun cabana with Ted Cruz while everyone home freezes to death
 
2022-10-07 7:08:16 PM  

iheartscotch: If only there was some sort of organization that a country could belong to that could supply it all the power it needed....


As fun as it is to blame everything on Brexit, in this case it's a whole different long-term Tory clusterfsck that's driving it.
 
2022-10-07 7:10:39 PM  
Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.
 
2022-10-07 7:14:02 PM  

Copper Spork: iheartscotch: If only there was some sort of organization that a country could belong to that could supply it all the power it needed....

As fun as it is to blame everything on Brexit, in this case it's a whole different long-term Tory clusterfsck that's driving it.


Where does she thinks she lives?  Texas?
 
2022-10-07 7:14:03 PM  

JamesSirBensonMum: Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.


All 81,000 of them? As nice as that sounds, this is the result of a decade of policy decisions.
 
2022-10-07 7:17:35 PM  

Kris_Romm: Where does she thinks she lives? Texas?


A more accurate analogy would be Alaska. Whilst some electricity is moved between the UK and Europe, it's not really a contributing factor here. Europe isn't exactly bursting with surplus electricity at the moment either.
 
2022-10-07 7:21:21 PM  

JamesSirBensonMum: Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.


Do you mean, "elections have consequences" ?
 
2022-10-07 7:28:55 PM  
Well England when you all are sitting in the dark freezing this winter just lie back and think of the Queen. Oh wait...
 
2022-10-07 7:31:10 PM  

JamesSirBensonMum: Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.


Yeah, that's not how the UK system works, right?.

Here's how many people actually voted for her: (take away the asterisks--apparently parliament hates direct links)

***https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/3757/election-history***
 
2022-10-07 7:34:53 PM  

Kris_Romm: JamesSirBensonMum: Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.

Yeah, that's not how the UK system works, right?.

Here's how many people actually voted for her: (take away the asterisks--apparently parliament hates direct links)

***https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/3757/election-history***


Well, the people who voted Truss into Downing Street are currently seated Conservative MPs, right? So they are easy to identify, find, hold down, and poop on. It's a good system, really, since it keeps the pooping to a reasonable amount.
 
2022-10-07 7:42:57 PM  

Copper Spork: Kris_Romm: Where does she thinks she lives? Texas?

A more accurate analogy would be Alaska. Whilst some electricity is moved between the UK and Europe, it's not really a contributing factor here. Europe isn't exactly bursting with surplus electricity at the moment either.


The point wasn't the isolation, it was the deliberate obtuseness about energy preparedness.  Texas KNEW they had problems and ignored it.  Sound familiar?
 
2022-10-07 7:50:26 PM  
They can just burn Pete.


Hang on...
Correction, burn peat.
 
2022-10-07 8:00:02 PM  

Kris_Romm: JamesSirBensonMum: Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.

Yeah, that's not how the UK system works, right?.

Here's how many people actually voted for her: (take away the asterisks--apparently parliament hates direct links)

***https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/3757/election-history***


I mean, the people had a post-brexit general election where Boris fricking Johnson was face of the Tories and the conservatives increased their majority.

So yes, the people of Britain chose this. Even if only 80k of the party faithful voted for Truss specifically, it's not like she's super different from the rest of them. Less competent perhaps, but it's not like Boris was a paragon of leadership ability.

Truss is just the logical conclusion of voting Tory.
 
2022-10-07 8:08:44 PM  

Kris_Romm: Copper Spork: Kris_Romm: Where does she thinks she lives? Texas?

A more accurate analogy would be Alaska. Whilst some electricity is moved between the UK and Europe, it's not really a contributing factor here. Europe isn't exactly bursting with surplus electricity at the moment either.

The point wasn't the isolation, it was the deliberate obtuseness about energy preparedness.  Texas KNEW they had problems and ignored it.  Sound familiar?


Ten years.

For ten years they had a report from the last cold weather grid collapse, outlining what failed and how to harden the grid against a repeat event.  It was ignored.
 
2022-10-07 8:11:16 PM  

Short Victoria's War: They can just burn Pete.


Hang on...
Correction, burn peat.


Too late. And he doesn't like it. But in truth there's nothing like a good Pete fire. There's something for all the family.

On a more serious note... the last time I experienced (non-alcoholic) blackouts was in the 1970s. I seem to remember needing lots of candles? So ... what's needed? Torches? Physical books?
 
2022-10-07 8:13:14 PM  
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2022-10-07 8:15:20 PM  

DemonEater: Truss is just the logical conclusion of voting Tory.


I'd prefer "inevitable" rather than "logical", here. Toryism is a collection of contradictions. It's kinda Fascism with a cold chicken buffet. Logic holds no sway.
 
2022-10-07 8:18:07 PM  
I love how the walking failure named Rees-Mogg proposed a common sense policy and Truss canned it anyway.
 
2022-10-07 8:31:12 PM  
The scariest thing to me (as someone who doesn't have to experience a brutal winter with no energy directly) is that the fossil fuel spin machine is going so hard in the paint to blame this on green energy. We pushed too hard too soon! We need more production! Wind energy gets people killed! Solar is blah blah blah conservative poopy talk!

The same playbook as the Texas deep freeze will be employed this winter in Europe.
 
2022-10-07 8:33:42 PM  

Copper Spork: iheartscotch: If only there was some sort of organization that a country could belong to that could supply it all the power it needed....

As fun as it is to blame everything on Brexit, in this case it's a whole different long-term Tory clusterfsck that's driving it.


Except Brexit is still ongoing as the Northern Ireland parts of it have still not been resolved (mostly so the Torries can point a Brussels for at least one thing to distract people)
 
2022-10-07 8:34:43 PM  

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The Torries are definitely missing their favorite clown right now since he was really good and making the press's head spin with his lies.
 
2022-10-07 8:40:00 PM  

Likwit: The scariest thing to me (as someone who doesn't have to experience a brutal winter with no energy directly) is that the fossil fuel spin machine is going so hard in the paint to blame this on green energy. We pushed too hard too soon! We need more production! Wind energy gets people killed! Solar is blah blah blah conservative poopy talk!

The same playbook as the Texas deep freeze will be employed this winter in Europe.


Empathy might help you out, there, since you're mostly scared for the safety of your particular viewpoints. Which is, honestly, rather an odd take.

A more rational stand would be that green energy is a far better option than being at the whims of a dictator.
 
2022-10-07 8:46:41 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: since you're mostly scared for the safety of your particular viewpoints


What a charitable interpretation of what I wrote.

GFY
 
2022-10-07 8:48:52 PM  
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2022-10-07 8:56:58 PM  

huma474: Copper Spork: iheartscotch: If only there was some sort of organization that a country could belong to that could supply it all the power it needed....

As fun as it is to blame everything on Brexit, in this case it's a whole different long-term Tory clusterfsck that's driving it.

Except Brexit is still ongoing as the Northern Ireland parts of it have still not been resolved (mostly so the Torries can point a Brussels for at least one thing to distract people)


The UK also seems to have indefinitely delayed checking goods imported from the EU. Too time consuming. This'll eventually cause problems when the WTO sues them, as it puts all other WTO countries at an unfair disadvantage.

// So instead of the mythical U.S. trade deal, the UK might get a lawsuit where the U.S. is one of the plaintiffs.
// Pork Markets™!
 
2022-10-07 9:02:44 PM  

mofa: huma474: Copper Spork: iheartscotch: If only there was some sort of organization that a country could belong to that could supply it all the power it needed....

As fun as it is to blame everything on Brexit, in this case it's a whole different long-term Tory clusterfsck that's driving it.

Except Brexit is still ongoing as the Northern Ireland parts of it have still not been resolved (mostly so the Torries can point a Brussels for at least one thing to distract people)

The UK also seems to have indefinitely delayed checking goods imported from the EU. Too time consuming. This'll eventually cause problems when the WTO sues them, as it puts all other WTO countries at an unfair disadvantage.

// So instead of the mythical U.S. trade deal, the UK might get a lawsuit where the U.S. is one of the plaintiffs.
// Pork Markets™!


Lol, The Mythical trade deal hit a road block years ago:

Joe Biden "I'm Irish"
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2022-10-07 9:14:01 PM  

Likwit: PartTimeBuddha: since you're mostly scared for the safety of your particular viewpoints

What a charitable interpretation of what I wrote.

GFY


You said the scariest thing to you about this was that fossil fuel lobbyists would use it to decry green energy.

Of course they will. But they'll do it about anything. Spoils the natural windswept environment. Disturbs fishes. Kills birds. Sucks vital wind out of our nation's heartland.

If you're scared of these fools, then they've already won.

So I prefer to exercise my efforts in caring for actual people who will be actually getting cold and in a lot of cases dying in the UK. You run away and have fun with your abstract terrors, lad.
 
2022-10-07 9:21:40 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: I prefer to exercise my efforts in caring for actual people who will be actually getting cold and in a lot of cases dying in the UK. You run away and have fun with your abstract terrors, lad.


It's good to see you're doing so much for those people. Will you be sending thoughts and prayers as well, or just caring?
 
2022-10-07 9:34:22 PM  

Likwit: PartTimeBuddha: I prefer to exercise my efforts in caring for actual people who will be actually getting cold and in a lot of cases dying in the UK. You run away and have fun with your abstract terrors, lad.

It's good to see you're doing so much for those people. Will you be sending thoughts and prayers as well, or just caring?


I will choose my words carefully because I agree with and respect your green energy goals.

I would urge you to do the same.
 
2022-10-07 9:44:50 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: Short Victoria's War: They can just burn Pete.


Hang on...
Correction, burn peat.

Too late. And he doesn't like it. But in truth there's nothing like a good Pete fire. There's something for all the family.

On a more serious note... the last time I experienced (non-alcoholic) blackouts was in the 1970s. I seem to remember needing lots of candles? So ... what's needed? Torches? Physical books?


Born in '79, and I can date the last significant blackout I experienced to '83, because when my mum's talked about it, she was going to miss an episode of The Thorn Birds.

The thought has crossed my mind, do I need to stock up on candles to make it through the winter? I'm already not going to be using heating, I've got a proper cosy duck down blanket that would make me roasty toasty in the Arctic... but I mean, with the levels of incompetence we can all see, do I need to buy candles so I've got light as well as my blanket?

I genuinely don't know.
 
2022-10-07 9:46:20 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: I would urge you to do the same.


I would urge you to stop attributing shiatty positions to people because they didn't word something exactly how you like.

GFY
 
2022-10-07 9:53:25 PM  

Likwit: PartTimeBuddha: I would urge you to do the same.

I would urge you to stop attributing shiatty positions to people because they didn't word something exactly how you like.

GFY


Jesus Christ dude, that's the second time you've said GFY within the space of about 7 comments. Take a farking chill pill.
 
2022-10-07 9:55:49 PM  

iron de havilland: PartTimeBuddha: Short Victoria's War: They can just burn Pete.


Hang on...
Correction, burn peat.

Too late. And he doesn't like it. But in truth there's nothing like a good Pete fire. There's something for all the family.

On a more serious note... the last time I experienced (non-alcoholic) blackouts was in the 1970s. I seem to remember needing lots of candles? So ... what's needed? Torches? Physical books?

Born in '79, and I can date the last significant blackout I experienced to '83, because when my mum's talked about it, she was going to miss an episode of The Thorn Birds.

The thought has crossed my mind, do I need to stock up on candles to make it through the winter? I'm already not going to be using heating, I've got a proper cosy duck down blanket that would make me roasty toasty in the Arctic... but I mean, with the levels of incompetence we can all see, do I need to buy candles so I've got light as well as my blanket?

I genuinely don't know.


Exactly! And respect to your mum. From what I understand, The Thornbirds (I think it's one word), was compelling watching at the time*.

So, like ... when is the power going to be switched off? How I will I know? Do I need to buy a radioset and tune it to a particular frequency?


______________
*Weird memory steps in. Wasn't there an episode broadcast that, because of the blackout, no one has ever seen?
 
2022-10-07 9:56:27 PM  
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2022-10-07 10:02:07 PM  
Is she... is she worse than Boris Johnson?
 
2022-10-07 10:03:38 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: So, like ... when is the power going to be switched off? How I will I know? Do I need to buy a radioset and tune it to a particular frequency?

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*Weird memory steps in. Wasn't there an episode broadcast that, because of the blackout, no one has ever seen?


I mean, obviously I was 3 or 4 at the time of that particular blackout. I think it was just local to me, the power to the Durris TV transmitting station was out for a while, but there was a backup one at Redmoss that eventually took up the slack.

If it was national, it's completely possible that everyone in the UK would have missed an episode of must-see TV.
 
2022-10-07 10:07:00 PM  

Likwit: PartTimeBuddha: I would urge you to do the same.

I would urge you to stop attributing shiatty positions to people because they didn't word something exactly how you like.

GFY


You will have better days, like anyone. And then, at some point, you won't.
 
2022-10-07 10:12:46 PM  

iron de havilland: Likwit: PartTimeBuddha: I would urge you to do the same.

I would urge you to stop attributing shiatty positions to people because they didn't word something exactly how you like.

GFY

Jesus Christ dude, that's the second time you've said GFY within the space of about 7 comments. Take a farking chill pill.


It's too bad you're so worried about how I speak to others on the internet. I choose to spend my time caring for refugees in Yemen. Maybe if you had any empathy you'd have bigger, more important concerns. Have fun with that, little sprout.
 
2022-10-07 10:14:59 PM  

Likwit: iron de havilland: Likwit: PartTimeBuddha: I would urge you to do the same.

I would urge you to stop attributing shiatty positions to people because they didn't word something exactly how you like.

GFY

Jesus Christ dude, that's the second time you've said GFY within the space of about 7 comments. Take a farking chill pill.

It's too bad you're so worried about how I speak to others on the internet. I choose to spend my time caring for refugees in Yemen. Maybe if you had any empathy you'd have bigger, more important concerns. Have fun with that, little sprout.


And you also enjoy telling people to fark themselves.
 
2022-10-07 10:15:08 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: Is she... is she worse than Boris Johnson?


She's worse than the bus driver who just wants to go her own way you know.

But, seriously, if "Immediately destroying your country" is on the score card then, yes, she is worse than Alexander Johnson.

Then again, maybe it's useful to look at them both as the same person. One is unkempt, the other unshaved.
 
2022-10-07 10:33:29 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: Unscratchable_Itch: Is she... is she worse than Boris Johnson?

She's worse than the bus driver who just wants to go her own way you know.

But, seriously, if "Immediately destroying your country" is on the score card then, yes, she is worse than Alexander Johnson.

Then again, maybe it's useful to look at them both as the same person. One is unkempt, the other unshaved.


Truss's fundamental problems can be summed up very quickly: She believes that she is the second coming of Marget Thatcher. That fundamentally shows how utterly out of touch with reality that she is.

The world that people like Thatcher and Regan occupied no longer exists - there is no Soviet Union to blame everything on while hoping that non communist powers would bail out any mistakes you made so that you didn't stop fighting the Soviets. Thatcher only survived because of Regan. Without Regan Thatcher would have failed within the first few months of her getting.

She has entered a world where she is trying to play quarter trumper while following a clown who fundamentally understood how to manipulate people to work against their best interests. The fact that she went ahead with destroying the pound even when she was told during her hustings what would happen shows how utterly detached she is.

She's praying that she can honk her nose enough to distract people while having never understood the comedy of errors she has inherited.
 
2022-10-07 11:46:31 PM  

JamesSirBensonMum: Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.


The Conservative party members?
 
2022-10-08 12:00:34 AM  

DemonEater: Kris_Romm: JamesSirBensonMum: Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.

Yeah, that's not how the UK system works, right?.

Here's how many people actually voted for her: (take away the asterisks--apparently parliament hates direct links)

***https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/3757/election-history***

I mean, the people had a post-brexit general election where Boris fricking Johnson was face of the Tories and the conservatives increased their majority.

So yes, the people of Britain chose this. Even if only 80k of the party faithful voted for Truss specifically, it's not like she's super different from the rest of them. Less competent perhaps, but it's not like Boris was a paragon of leadership ability.

Truss is just the logical conclusion of voting Tory.


The people of England (outside of major cities) chose this.

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2022-10-08 12:20:52 AM  

Gordon Bennett: DemonEater: Kris_Romm: JamesSirBensonMum: Or, just hear me out here, it is the fault of people who voted for her.

Yeah, that's not how the UK system works, right?.

Here's how many people actually voted for her: (take away the asterisks--apparently parliament hates direct links)

***https://members.parliament.uk/constituency/3757/election-history***

I mean, the people had a post-brexit general election where Boris fricking Johnson was face of the Tories and the conservatives increased their majority.

So yes, the people of Britain chose this. Even if only 80k of the party faithful voted for Truss specifically, it's not like she's super different from the rest of them. Less competent perhaps, but it's not like Boris was a paragon of leadership ability.

Truss is just the logical conclusion of voting Tory.

The people of England (outside of major cities) chose this.

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Oh dear, you seem to have hit on the fundamental problem with the UK system - population has no relation to representation.
 
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