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(CNN)   Meet some of the former Floridians who didn't think Hurricane Ian was anything to worry about   (cnn.com) divider line
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2022-10-07 3:36:38 AM  
Some former humans in there. What do you tell these people who won't listen?

Not everything you don't like is fake news.
 
2022-10-07 5:26:10 AM  
While he waits for his free federal money.  Parasites.
 
2022-10-07 5:46:50 AM  
Are you really a victim of you refuse to leave?
 
2022-10-07 5:51:14 AM  
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2022-10-07 6:17:28 AM  
Pacyna and his wife lived in Florida for 27 years and thought Hurricane Ian would be just another hurricane, his daughter said.

Well, he wasn't wrong.

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2022-10-07 7:36:06 AM  
Luck eventually runs out even for humans dumb enough to stay in the path of a hurricane all the time. There's no point in living in a hurricane prone area no matter how good it looks when there isn't one. Also it's not like the rich people you work for in that area will pick you up and carry you out of there along with them. They don't want to pay for that, they barely want to pay you for the work you normally do for them.
 
2022-10-07 7:37:27 AM  

Unobtanium: Pacyna and his wife lived in Florida for 27 years and thought Hurricane Ian would be just another hurricane, his daughter said.

Well, he wasn't wrong.

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So Mary married Mitch, but she kept the Wojciechowski ?
 
2022-10-07 7:39:18 AM  

edmo: Some former humans in there. What do you tell these people who won't listen?

Not everything you don't like is fake news.


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2022-10-07 7:42:01 AM  
The levels of stubborn stupidity on display are infuriating. All the common themes abound.
 
2022-10-07 7:42:18 AM  
They were warned.

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2022-10-07 7:42:23 AM  

lindalouwho: Are you really a victim of you refuse to leave?


The woman from Dayton went on vacation. I can't even fathom how a group comes to that decision.

Also...if my mom died in a storm, I'd probably use a different memory than "He talked about how the two would always joke around. "'Keep your head up little b*tch, you'll be alright,'" Chedester said his mom would tell him when times were tough....when being quoted in national media.
 
2022-10-07 7:44:21 AM  

lindalouwho: Are you really a victim of you refuse to leave?


Or if you travel from Ohio to Florida, knowing there's a hurricane inbound?
 
2022-10-07 7:45:18 AM  
Sorry anti-evacuator.
 
2022-10-07 7:46:30 AM  

W_Scarlet: lindalouwho: Are you really a victim of you refuse to leave?

Or if you travel from Ohio to Florida, knowing there's a hurricane inbound?


Ohio is just an extension of Florida lately
 
2022-10-07 7:50:40 AM  

cfreak: W_Scarlet: lindalouwho: Are you really a victim of you refuse to leave?

Or if you travel from Ohio to Florida, knowing there's a hurricane inbound?

Ohio is just an extension of Florida lately


She saw an out and took it and the rest of Ohio is lying when they say they don't envy her.

/OH
 
2022-10-07 7:50:44 AM  
I have lived in Florida since I was three and I am 46 now. I get so annoyed at Floridians that make jokes about hurricanes or get mad when they evacuated and nothing happened. Sure, if it is a 1 or 2 I don't consider it a major deal and have hurricane parties like everyone else. A category 4 or 5 is nothing to mess with. I drove through Miami a few days after Andrew and was shocked. Looked like bombs had gone off. Whole neighborhoods flattened. I live in evacuation zone B and I leave every time they say I should. I won't judge these people because hurricane evacuations in FL are complicated. But it is not something to take lightly.
 
2022-10-07 7:51:11 AM  
Lulu the poodle survived alone
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2022-10-07 7:51:47 AM  
Picture under the definition of "Florida Man" in the dictionary.

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2022-10-07 7:52:29 AM  

lindalouwho: Are you really a victim of you refuse to leave?


Some are idiots who ignore the warnings. Some have nowhere to go/cannot afford a hotel room, and given the choice between a shelter and a hurricane ravaged home, pick the latter for obvious reasons.
 
2022-10-07 7:52:57 AM  
The death toll was pretty low all things considered.
With coastal hurricanes, generally young children and the elderly are most vulnerable.
Many more died per day in Best America during the storm from firearms, opioids, covid, and heart disease than Ian.
The real issue with Ian is the failed property insurance market, 100% caused by the GQP.  DeSantis even gave away the $21 billion budget surplus to the 0.1%, instead of placing it into a rainy day fund, knowing the insurance market was broken and climate change meant Ian was inevitable.
His voters of course see Dark Brandon and his son Hunter in Ukraine controlling Florida weather surrounded by a minion of black Jews while persecuting Trump and Putin, freedom loving peace keepers and the word of God made flesh.
 
2022-10-07 7:58:00 AM  
1. Dumb enough to stay on a barrier island during a hurricane. I guess he learned the wrong lessons from Charlie and Irma.

2. No indication of why he died.

3. Won't change your vacation plans because of a hurricane?

Stopped reading there.

This story is a litmus test.

Some will be saddened to see the tragedy of beloved people dying in a natural disaster.

Others will be frustrated, even angered (or maybe amused), by people dying as a consequence of their own bad decisions. Those people will be derided as judgmental assholes by the first group.

Make smart decisions every day of your life. Actions should have consequences, and those consequences should include FAFO and "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
 
2022-10-07 7:59:03 AM  

thornhill: given the choice between a shelter and a hurricane ravaged home, pick the latter for obvious reasons.


Obvious?
 
2022-10-07 8:04:39 AM  

lindalouwho: Are you really a victim of you refuse to leave?


Depends. Did you have the money and means to leave? The news loves writing told-ya-so articles about dumb wealthy people who refused to abandon their beachside vacation homes, but you don't hear nearly as much about the homeless population or poorer residents who don't have vehicles.
 
2022-10-07 8:04:43 AM  

Kyle Butler: Picture under the definition of "Florida Man" in the dictionary.

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Identified by his tattoos
 
2022-10-07 8:18:12 AM  
At least he died secure in the knowledge that global warming was nothing but a hoax.

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2022-10-07 8:20:14 AM  
Hey, let's make fun of dead people! That's cool, and makes me feel both clever and special!
 
2022-10-07 8:22:39 AM  
Lots of people are really shiatty at calculating risk, and they tend to focus on the hurricane's rating on the SS scale to determine whether to ride it out, not understanding that (a) the hurricane can reintensify rapidly, given the right conditions (b) they can wobble, making precise predictions of landfall extremely hard and swiftly changing the level of danger for anyone close to the center (3) being in the part of the hurricane that is blowing toward land is much worse than being in the part that's blowing offshore, and (4) the storm surge can be much greater than the hurricane's SS intensity rating at landfall (eg, Katrina's surge was still a Cat 5 even though at landfall it was Cat 3).
 
2022-10-07 8:26:48 AM  
Our son moved to Florida about a month before Katrina. When it moved through, it was a Cat 1 storm and was coming from the east so it looked like nothing more than a big thunderstorm. For Wilma, he and a friend bugged out. They simply drove up to a Gainesville grocery store parking lot and waited out the storm listening to the radio. For Irma he and a friend loaded up my son's car with pets and essentials and drove up here. After 3 days, I drove back to Florida with him to help with the damage. (Not a shingle was lost off his house. Irma had came over land from the south and had almost no storm surge.)  This time, he had no housemate and the cats hid so well he had to stay. Through the day, the storm picked apart his house. A roof here. A window there. When the pressure on the garage changed suddenly, it blew the door to the house -- and frame -- into the house. When the cats had enough the next morning and were tractable enough to be moved, he left. Very shaken. Had he lived in Ft. Myers he would have had 12' of storm surge and I wouldn't be on Fark talking about it.
 
2022-10-07 8:28:02 AM  
I feel bad for the loss their family and friends are feeling.  I can't bring myself to feel bad for them.  You were told to GTFO and didn't.

They made their choice.  It sucks that it turned out the way it did, but we knew days ahead that this storm would hit like a runaway Mack truck.
 
2022-10-07 8:28:43 AM  
Why do they have to spread their stupid to other states?   Not only that, but they breed stupid everywhere they go.

SkyNet, where tf are you already?
 
2022-10-07 8:35:48 AM  

edmo: Some former humans in there. What do you tell these people who won't listen?

Not everything you don't like is fake news.


Sadly, I'm fairly sure the ratio of Faux News voters would correlate pretty well to that list.

Their blood is on DeathSantis, both for not issuing a timely evacuation, but also for them all dicking around with political games.
 
2022-10-07 8:35:49 AM  
The limits people's sympathy are odd. It's as if we only have so much and have to ration it out.
 
2022-10-07 8:43:01 AM  

yakmans_dad: The limits people's sympathy are odd. It's as if we only have so much and have to ration it out.


Years of dealing with the anti-vaxxers, COVID-deniers, ivermectin-sucking nincompoops will do that to a person.
 
2022-10-07 8:45:02 AM  
FA & FO the Florida way
 
2022-10-07 8:45:42 AM  

edmo: Some former humans in there. What do you tell these people who won't listen?

Not everything you don't like is fake news.


That the former commander in brief is having a sidewalk sale on "secret documents" at the local pump and munch?
 
2022-10-07 8:47:06 AM  
I hope his little white dog is OK.
 
2022-10-07 8:47:35 AM  

TTFK: yakmans_dad: The limits people's sympathy are odd. It's as if we only have so much and have to ration it out.

Years of dealing with the anti-vaxxers, COVID-deniers, ivermectin-sucking nincompoops will do that to a person.


Few people choose to have lots of limitations.
 
2022-10-07 8:48:24 AM  
darwin disappointing he didn't get them out of the gene pool in time
 
2022-10-07 8:49:37 AM  
Survivorship bias is real and it's spectacular.
 
2022-10-07 8:50:07 AM  

edmo: Some former humans in there. What do you tell these people who won't listen?

Not everything you don't like is fake news.


"But how can I tell what's true if I can't follow my gut?"
 
2022-10-07 8:53:05 AM  

EdgeRunner: lindalouwho: Are you really a victim of you refuse to leave?

Depends. Did you have the money and means to leave? The news loves writing told-ya-so articles about dumb wealthy people who refused to abandon their beachside vacation homes, but you don't hear nearly as much about the homeless population or poorer residents who don't have vehicles.


One way bus ticket.
If you can't afford to evacuate you can't afford to live in Florida. Sell whatever you have and get a one way bus ticket. Ideally do this long before a hurricane and plan for it, but worst comes to worst stay alive.
 
2022-10-07 8:53:11 AM  

yakmans_dad: Our son moved to Florida about a month before Katrina. When it moved through, it was a Cat 1 storm and was coming from the east so it looked like nothing more than a big thunderstorm. For Wilma, he and a friend bugged out. They simply drove up to a Gainesville grocery store parking lot and waited out the storm listening to the radio. For Irma he and a friend loaded up my son's car with pets and essentials and drove up here. After 3 days, I drove back to Florida with him to help with the damage. (Not a shingle was lost off his house. Irma had came over land from the south and had almost no storm surge.)  This time, he had no housemate and the cats hid so well he had to stay. Through the day, the storm picked apart his house. A roof here. A window there. When the pressure on the garage changed suddenly, it blew the door to the house -- and frame -- into the house. When the cats had enough the next morning and were tractable enough to be moved, he left. Very shaken. Had he lived in Ft. Myers he would have had 12' of storm surge and I wouldn't be on Fark talking about it.


Where is your son located?

This was a notoriously difficult storm to track.  The NHC made that clear in every Discussion on the Ian page.  I understand that some people were caught up because of that.  This storm had little steering.
 
2022-10-07 8:54:17 AM  

Stud Gerbil: Why do they have to spread their stupid to other states?   Not only that, but they breed stupid everywhere they go.

SkyNet, where tf are you already?


Imagine transplanting this comment into a Katrina thread. Your selective glee at other people's misfortune based on their skin color and presumed political lean is brutal. No one's arguing that they chose poorly and paid dearly.
 
2022-10-07 8:56:43 AM  
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2022-10-07 8:56:52 AM  

Rapmaster2000: yakmans_dad: Our son moved to Florida about a month before Katrina. When it moved through, it was a Cat 1 storm and was coming from the east so it looked like nothing more than a big thunderstorm. For Wilma, he and a friend bugged out. They simply drove up to a Gainesville grocery store parking lot and waited out the storm listening to the radio. For Irma he and a friend loaded up my son's car with pets and essentials and drove up here. After 3 days, I drove back to Florida with him to help with the damage. (Not a shingle was lost off his house. Irma had came over land from the south and had almost no storm surge.)  This time, he had no housemate and the cats hid so well he had to stay. Through the day, the storm picked apart his house. A roof here. A window there. When the pressure on the garage changed suddenly, it blew the door to the house -- and frame -- into the house. When the cats had enough the next morning and were tractable enough to be moved, he left. Very shaken. Had he lived in Ft. Myers he would have had 12' of storm surge and I wouldn't be on Fark talking about it.

Where is your son located?

This was a notoriously difficult storm to track.  The NHC made that clear in every Discussion on the Ian page.  I understand that some people were caught up because of that.  This storm had little steering.


It made landfall within the projected cone. The location was predicted fairly well more than a week out.
Just because your city isn't predicted to be the center of the storm doesn't mean that's the only place that should evacuate.
 
2022-10-07 9:01:23 AM  

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Went down that rabbit hole, oh boy, that is some very exceptionally American brand of proud stupidity

"Truman told reporters that he was knocked from his bed by precursor earthquakes, so he responded by moving his mattress to the basement.[12] He claimed to wear spurs to bed to cope with the earthquakes while he slept.[20] He scoffed at the public's concern for his safety,[12] responding to scientists' claims about the threat of the volcano that "the mountain has shot its wad and it hasn't hurt my place a bit, but those goddamn geologists with their hair down to their butts wouldn't pay no attention to ol' Truman."[16]
As a result of his defiant commentary, Truman became something of a folk hero,[12] and was the subject of many songs and poems by children."
 
2022-10-07 9:06:14 AM  

KamikazeCraig: Hey, let's make fun of dead people! That's cool, and makes me feel both clever and special!


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Article was too long.  Executive summary: RIP, dummies.
 
2022-10-07 9:10:08 AM  

GonnaCallYouOut: Rapmaster2000: yakmans_dad: Our son moved to Florida about a month before Katrina. When it moved through, it was a Cat 1 storm and was coming from the east so it looked like nothing more than a big thunderstorm. For Wilma, he and a friend bugged out. They simply drove up to a Gainesville grocery store parking lot and waited out the storm listening to the radio. For Irma he and a friend loaded up my son's car with pets and essentials and drove up here. After 3 days, I drove back to Florida with him to help with the damage. (Not a shingle was lost off his house. Irma had came over land from the south and had almost no storm surge.)  This time, he had no housemate and the cats hid so well he had to stay. Through the day, the storm picked apart his house. A roof here. A window there. When the pressure on the garage changed suddenly, it blew the door to the house -- and frame -- into the house. When the cats had enough the next morning and were tractable enough to be moved, he left. Very shaken. Had he lived in Ft. Myers he would have had 12' of storm surge and I wouldn't be on Fark talking about it.

Where is your son located?

This was a notoriously difficult storm to track.  The NHC made that clear in every Discussion on the Ian page.  I understand that some people were caught up because of that.  This storm had little steering.

It made landfall within the projected cone. The location was predicted fairly well more than a week out.
Just because your city isn't predicted to be the center of the storm doesn't mean that's the only place that should evacuate.


All true.  Also all true what I said.  The NHC did well, but wishes it could have done better.  The overnight jog of roughly 100 miles to the south was a surprise.  Two days earlier, Cedar Key looked like the landfall.
 
2022-10-07 9:10:44 AM  

reno301: I have lived in Florida since I was three and I am 46 now. I get so annoyed at Floridians that make jokes about hurricanes or get mad when they evacuated and nothing happened. Sure, if it is a 1 or 2 I don't consider it a major deal and have hurricane parties like everyone else. A category 4 or 5 is nothing to mess with. I drove through Miami a few days after Andrew and was shocked. Looked like bombs had gone off. Whole neighborhoods flattened. I live in evacuation zone B and I leave every time they say I should. I won't judge these people because hurricane evacuations in FL are complicated. But it is not something to take lightly.


To be fair, the track not only shifted, it also deviated in strength. It was forecast to hit Tampa as a Cat 1. The cold front was supposed to trip the storm up, but Ian turned and hit land first as a strong Cat 4 much further South. If the prediction had been more accurate, I'd be less sympathetic to those in the wake.
 
2022-10-07 9:12:46 AM  
Where do millions of people suddenly go? (The original projections included Tampa/St. Pete) Are there evacuation hotels and parking lots somewhere? Can highways even handle that many simultaneous vehicles whose only destination is Someplace Safe? This being Fark, I don't expect the compassion of St. Francis of Assisi, but where the aged and sick are supposed to go seems like a good place to start. Where would a state build such facilities? Is there a tidy little plot of land in Safe Haven that can be set aside for use at 5-10-20 year intervals? Lee County had a couple of high school gyms that each could handle a couple of hundred people. And their pets. About 1% of the need. Sure, if your only conception of people who shelter in place are college kids showing off you might be dismissive, but testosterone poisoning is real and makes a large chunk of humanity stupid for 30-40 years. It's part of being human. And that wasn't even the bulk of people who stayed in place.
 
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