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(Heartland Signal.)   Another day, another Republican using stock footage from Russia in an ad   (heartlandsignal.com) divider line
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2022-10-06 6:47:46 PM  
at this point, I feel that Repubs' respective marketing teams are just trolling their clients.
 
2022-10-06 7:47:04 PM  

Imperfect Pixels: is point, I feel that Repubs' respective marketing teams are just trolling their clients.


Oh I absolutely would do that if I were them.
 
2022-10-06 11:33:57 PM  
It's easy. The ads are funded by Russians and edited in Russia. I mean, WHY would you select Russian soldiers?  The stock image companies tell you precisely what you are seeing along with creator credit.
 
2022-10-06 11:34:07 PM  
When someone tells you who they are you should believe them.
 
2022-10-06 11:38:53 PM  

Nintenfreak: Imperfect Pixels: is point, I feel that Repubs' respective marketing teams are just trolling their clients.

Oh I absolutely would do that if I were them.


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2022-10-06 11:40:47 PM  
I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.
 
2022-10-06 11:42:15 PM  

Nintenfreak: Imperfect Pixels: is point, I feel that Repubs' respective marketing teams are just trolling their clients.

Oh I absolutely would do that if I were them.


Especially since their clients are so often way too farking dumb to notice details like this
 
2022-10-06 11:42:47 PM  
It has to be intentional, right?...I mean -- it keeps happening.
 
2022-10-06 11:46:32 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.


It's like when they say they support the police, but then you have the Jan 6th riot, and then hundreds of incidents before and since of right wing nutjobs trying to murder the police.  Sometimes with success.  Hell the whole militia movement took off after a neo-Nazi gunsmith got in a stand off with the police, and tried to murder a bunch of them, because they were trying to arrest him for illegally modifying weapons, at Ruby Ridge.  Of course that is not the Republican spin on that particular story.  While the FBI and ATF did make some mistakes going into the standoff, but if you take Randy Weaver's word as gospel, you are a farking idiot.
 
2022-10-06 11:48:18 PM  

RasIanI: It has to be intentional, right?...I mean -- it keeps happening.


They are rubbing the collusion in our faces...
 
2022-10-06 11:49:52 PM  

winedrinkingman: Nintenfreak: Imperfect Pixels: is point, I feel that Repubs' respective marketing teams are just trolling their clients.

Oh I absolutely would do that if I were them.

Especially since their clients are so often way too farking dumb to notice details like this


What do you mean that young pretty girl who has no business being with a shlub like me and who was only trying to gain access to TFG's inner circle turned out to be a Russian spy?
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2022-10-06 11:58:24 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.



2004 is a calling
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2022-10-07 12:00:36 AM  
FTA: "If Kari Lake can't identify a uniformed member of the Arizona National Guard from a Russian soldier, she has no business leading our brave men and women as governor," Katie Hobbs responded via email when asked about the footage.

You have my permission to use much stronger language.
 
2022-10-07 12:04:41 AM  
How does this keep happening?

And if it's intentional.....why? What is the point?
 
2022-10-07 12:05:08 AM  
Not a mistake
 
2022-10-07 12:07:54 AM  

invictus2: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.


2004 is a calling[Fark user image 550x550]


So glad that Republicans nowadays respect what a Purple Heart really means. *stand and salutes with a tear in my eye*

Donald Trump receives Purple Heart from veteran
Youtube zR66EoDQEt0


/dollars to donuts that particular purple heart got packed away and lost in the move back to Mar A Lago.
 
2022-10-07 12:09:25 AM  

nicholas m schumacher: invictus2: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.


2004 is a calling[Fark user image 550x550]

So glad that Republicans nowadays respect what a Purple Heart really means. *stand and salutes with a tear in my eye*

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/zR66EoDQEt0]

/dollars to donuts that particular purple heart got packed away and lost in the move back to Mar A Lago.


I was probably sold at some point shortly after he received it.
 
2022-10-07 12:11:33 AM  

winedrinkingman: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.

It's like when they say they support the police, but then you have the Jan 6th riot, and then hundreds of incidents before and since of right wing nutjobs trying to murder the police.  Sometimes with success.  Hell the whole militia movement took off after a neo-Nazi gunsmith got in a stand off with the police, and tried to murder a bunch of them, because they were trying to arrest him for illegally modifying weapons, at Ruby Ridge.  Of course that is not the Republican spin on that particular story.  While the FBI and ATF did make some mistakes going into the standoff, but if you take Randy Weaver's word as gospel, you are a farking idiot.


Uhh - "make some mistakes?"  Seriously?  They sniped people down who weren't even firing, weren't even menacing - they killed his wife while she was standing at the door holding her baby.  When they knew a proper negotiation team was en route.  SOME MISTAKES??  That's not Republican spin, that's the GD after action report from the FBI - you know the people that did the sniping?  That shiat was off the rails from the beginning - end of story - and they farked it up to hell and sideways.  People study that as a "What not to do." example of how to handle a similar situation.  You're handwaving like crazy here Wine, it's not right wing nonsense to maintain it was a murderous clusterfark, because it was.  The FBI themselves came to that conclusion and their guy did it.  It was mishandled start to finish and people died that didn't even need to, end of story.  The fact that the guy was a farknut doesn't excuse that
 
2022-10-07 12:13:03 AM  
They outsource all their PR and marketing to some firm in Russia. I wonder if some journalist will pop their thumbs out of their ass and figure out why.
 
2022-10-07 12:14:25 AM  
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2022-10-07 12:15:58 AM  
Did you expect an RT stringer to use American stock footage? They use what they're most familiar with.
 
2022-10-07 12:16:45 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: winedrinkingman: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.

It's like when they say they support the police, but then you have the Jan 6th riot, and then hundreds of incidents before and since of right wing nutjobs trying to murder the police.  Sometimes with success.  Hell the whole militia movement took off after a neo-Nazi gunsmith got in a stand off with the police, and tried to murder a bunch of them, because they were trying to arrest him for illegally modifying weapons, at Ruby Ridge.  Of course that is not the Republican spin on that particular story.  While the FBI and ATF did make some mistakes going into the standoff, but if you take Randy Weaver's word as gospel, you are a farking idiot.

Uhh - "make some mistakes?"  Seriously?  They sniped people down who weren't even firing, weren't even menacing - they killed his wife while she was standing at the door holding her baby.  When they knew a proper negotiation team was en route.  SOME MISTAKES??  That's not Republican spin, that's the GD after action report from the FBI - you know the people that did the sniping?  That shiat was off the rails from the beginning - end of story - and they farked it up to hell and sideways.  People study that as a "What not to do." example of how to handle a similar situation.  You're handwaving like crazy here Wine, it's not right wing nonsense to maintain it was a murderous clusterfark, because it was.  The FBI themselves came to that conclusion and their guy did it.  It was mishandled start to finish and people died that didn't even need to, end of story.  The fact that the guy was a farknut doesn't excuse that


Eventually the Justice Department agreed to pay him $3.1 million ($30 million in today's dollars) but denied wrongdoing.
 
2022-10-07 12:16:55 AM  
Does Putin show Republican ads to the Russian populace as supposed "proof" of how popular he and his policies are in America which is why they should always support him and believe everything he tells them? It almost seems like Putin is tricking the Republicans into producing his own propaganda to shore up his position at home.

/it's unfortunate that our laws allow intellectually-deficient dupes to run for public office
 
2022-10-07 12:19:14 AM  
It's not a mistake of location, it's just a mistake of time. Let Republicans be in charge and they'd be happy to turn the country into an SSR.
 
2022-10-07 12:23:11 AM  
When I do advertising for the museum, I always look over ads that others put together, and in writing (email) let them know the ads are approved.  So are GQP people just rubberstamping those ads?  Are they dumb enough to not know the difference between Russians and Americans, or are they not even looking at the ads?
 
2022-10-07 12:24:03 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: winedrinkingman: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.

It's like when they say they support the police, but then you have the Jan 6th riot, and then hundreds of incidents before and since of right wing nutjobs trying to murder the police.  Sometimes with success.  Hell the whole militia movement took off after a neo-Nazi gunsmith got in a stand off with the police, and tried to murder a bunch of them, because they were trying to arrest him for illegally modifying weapons, at Ruby Ridge.  Of course that is not the Republican spin on that particular story.  While the FBI and ATF did make some mistakes going into the standoff, but if you take Randy Weaver's word as gospel, you are a farking idiot.

Uhh - "make some mistakes?"  Seriously?  They sniped people down who weren't even firing, weren't even menacing - they killed his wife while she was standing at the door holding her baby.  When they knew a proper negotiation team was en route.  SOME MISTAKES??  That's not Republican spin, that's the GD after action report from the FBI - you know the people that did the sniping?  That shiat was off the rails from the beginning - end of story - and they farked it up to hell and sideways.  People study that as a "What not to do." example of how to handle a similar situation.  You're handwaving like crazy here Wine, it's not right wing nonsense to maintain it was a murderous clusterfark, because it was.  The FBI themselves came to that conclusion and their guy did it.  It was mishandled start to finish and people died that didn't even need to, end of story.  The fact that the guy was a farknut doesn't excuse that


Reno would be a Fox and RWNJ legend if these people had been black. Just gonna throw that out there.

It was absolutely farked up. And my reply to RWNJs who bring it up is always a mocking "They should have obeyed Law Enforcement".
 
2022-10-07 12:27:59 AM  

ModernLuddite: How does this keep happening?

And if it's intentional.....why? What is the point?


Conditioning their people to support/participate in a Russian invasion of America, I mean can you totally put it past them
 
2022-10-07 12:31:29 AM  

nicholas m schumacher: Nintenfreak: Imperfect Pixels: is point, I feel that Repubs' respective marketing teams are just trolling their clients.

Oh I absolutely would do that if I were them.

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2022-10-07 12:39:03 AM  

ModernLuddite: How does this keep happening?

And if it's intentional.....why? What is the point?


I got a theory. Modern candidates typically have a ton of the work of campaigning done by consulting firms that likely have licenses for vast databases of images and clips that go into political advertisements and mailers. Putin's regime has made a point to project a militant jingoism into the ether and its various products get swept up by these databases. They are easy pickings given no one is really interested in establishing or enforcing any sort of copyright for propaganda, especially that produced overseas.

It just so happens that those products happen to also strongly resonate with the message GOP candidates are going for. Add in a mix of carelessness and ignorance I would expect from a typical GOP political consultant looking for such content, and there you have repeated examples of Russian propaganda reformulated into GOP campaign materials.
 
2022-10-07 12:40:30 AM  

IAmRight: It's not a mistake of location, it's just a mistake of time. Let Republicans be in charge and they'd be happy to turn the country into an SSR.


It would be a federal subject now. Gotta keep up with the times!
 
2022-10-07 12:45:07 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: winedrinkingman: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.

It's like when they say they support the police, but then you have the Jan 6th riot, and then hundreds of incidents before and since of right wing nutjobs trying to murder the police.  Sometimes with success.  Hell the whole militia movement took off after a neo-Nazi gunsmith got in a stand off with the police, and tried to murder a bunch of them, because they were trying to arrest him for illegally modifying weapons, at Ruby Ridge.  Of course that is not the Republican spin on that particular story.  While the FBI and ATF did make some mistakes going into the standoff, but if you take Randy Weaver's word as gospel, you are a farking idiot.

Uhh - "make some mistakes?"  Seriously?  They sniped people down who weren't even firing, weren't even menacing - they killed his wife while she was standing at the door holding her baby.  When they knew a proper negotiation team was en route.  SOME MISTAKES??  That's not Republican spin, that's the GD after action report from the FBI - you know the people that did the sniping?  That shiat was off the rails from the beginning - end of story - and they farked it up to hell and sideways.  People study that as a "What not to do." example of how to handle a similar situation.  You're handwaving like crazy here Wine, it's not right wing nonsense to maintain it was a murderous clusterfark, because it was.  The FBI themselves came to that conclusion and their guy did it.  It was mishandled start to finish and people died that didn't even need to, end of story.  The fact that the guy was a farknut doesn't excuse that


Don't be a right wing farknut. Good shoot.
 
2022-10-07 12:48:00 AM  

invictus2: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.


2004 is a calling[Fark user image 550x550]


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I've seen that photo of that bandaid lady for ages (nearly 20 years ago!) but I had no idea that the bandaid was an attack against John Kerry's purple heart from his service.

https://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/gop.purple.hearts/

They will call a man anti-abortion and pro-family values even if he's paid his mistresses to have abortions.

They will call a man pro-military even if he dodges deployment.

They will call a man anti-military even if he's been injured while serving and decorated for his service.
 
2022-10-07 1:04:38 AM  
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2022-10-07 1:05:09 AM  

winedrinkingman: Nintenfreak: Imperfect Pixels: is point, I feel that Repubs' respective marketing teams are just trolling their clients.

Oh I absolutely would do that if I were them.

Especially since their clients are so often way too farking dumb to notice details like this


we're very lucky they're so farking stupid.
 
2022-10-07 1:05:59 AM  

ansius: invictus2: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.


2004 is a calling[Fark user image 550x550]

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I've seen that photo of that bandaid lady for ages (nearly 20 years ago!) but I had no idea that the bandaid was an attack against John Kerry's purple heart from his service.

https://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/gop.purple.hearts/

They will call a man anti-abortion and pro-family values even if he's paid his mistresses to have abortions.

They will call a man pro-military even if he dodges deployment.

They will call a man anti-military even if he's been injured while serving and decorated for his service.


That biatch is probably dead or on her 10th year of dialysis now.
 
2022-10-07 1:08:37 AM  
It is such a weird coincidence that this keeps happening. It's almost like someone is feeding them this disinformation.

Probably just a coincidence...
 
2022-10-07 2:12:05 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: winedrinkingman: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.

It's like when they say they support the police, but then you have the Jan 6th riot, and then hundreds of incidents before and since of right wing nutjobs trying to murder the police.  Sometimes with success.  Hell the whole militia movement took off after a neo-Nazi gunsmith got in a stand off with the police, and tried to murder a bunch of them, because they were trying to arrest him for illegally modifying weapons, at Ruby Ridge.  Of course that is not the Republican spin on that particular story.  While the FBI and ATF did make some mistakes going into the standoff, but if you take Randy Weaver's word as gospel, you are a farking idiot.

Uhh - "make some mistakes?"  Seriously?  They sniped people down who weren't even firing, weren't even menacing - they killed his wife while she was standing at the door holding her baby.  When they knew a proper negotiation team was en route.  SOME MISTAKES??  That's not Republican spin, that's the GD after action report from the FBI - you know the people that did the sniping?  That shiat was off the rails from the beginning - end of story - and they farked it up to hell and sideways.  People study that as a "What not to do." example of how to handle a similar situation.  You're handwaving like crazy here Wine, it's not right wing nonsense to maintain it was a murderous clusterfark, because it was.  The FBI themselves came to that conclusion and their guy did it.  It was mishandled start to finish and people died that didn't even need to, end of story.  The fact that the guy was a farknut doesn't excuse that


Your English gets better and better. Weird.
 
2022-10-07 2:27:19 AM  
the gop is a subsidiary of Oligarch Inc.
 
2022-10-07 2:30:04 AM  
Kari Lake says, спасибо за ваш сервис.
 
2022-10-07 4:11:23 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: nicholas m schumacher: Nintenfreak: Imperfect Pixels: is point, I feel that Repubs' respective marketing teams are just trolling their clients.

Oh I absolutely would do that if I were them.

[Fark user image image 768×1024]

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And that one was by a Farker!

I have a trolling in mind that maybe could actually peel a bunch of the fundie Christian base away from the GOP (losing even a substantial fraction [say, ⅓ or ⅖ or even ¼] of those would mean that they'd lose across the board even with their cheating), but unfortunately I think it's too late to do it for this election. Just hope they don't take the House or Senate or three state legislatures this time, and we can pull it in 2024. For the best effect it'd need to be done at a conference of specifically Nat-Cs, as close to the election as possible (so as not to give them time for damage control ― unfortunately CPAC 2022 was in early August and that would've given them ¼ year).
 
2022-10-07 4:58:23 AM  
We've had this subject discussed here in previous threads. My take as a retired video editor is, there's no conspiracy; it is just a combination of incompetence and low budget penny-pinching.

These GOP candidates hire the cheapest outfits to make their spots and then don't do due diligence in their approval processes, because a typical spot of this nature is conceived, executed and broadcast in something like 24 to 48 hours.  The client is not an expert in stock footage. The client looks for the disclaimer copy to be within standards, that the graphics asked for meet the checklist they sent over, a cursory look and bam, on to the next job, cash the checks. (Typically political ad makers always insist on cash up front, for the ad buy as well as the production, because it is very typical that campaigns fold or move on without settling bills afterwards.)

 The execution is done by lowest-bidder types who don't hire the best people, they hire the -fastest- people, because deadlines are tight and they are billing by the hour... Those people cut corners all the time, and they are typically young and inexperienced at doing these spots professionally. The previous stuff they did ripped copyrighted sources left and right and nobody cared but now they are doing something for legit airwaves, under the gun. They have a few stock footage sources by experience that they hit over and over, if they can't find free public domain stuff. The cheap stuff and the free public domain stuff are often sourced from European-based footage providers. If you pick carefully, some European imagery will pass for American, I use Pexels shots that way, but generally there's always subtle cues it's off-brand. GOP clients and the lowball production companies they hire are anything but subtle. They are not observant, discerning, or particular.

This stuff isn't intentional or some kind of secret messaging; it's just sloppy work by sloppy people.  Anyway, there's no point in running American ads to impress some Russians back in Russia. If a candidate is actually Russian-backed, let's just assume for the moment that that is true, and game this out, the campaign spot's only goal is to get that puppet candidate elected, or a legit candidate defeated, so that the elected candidate can be put to use furthering Russian goals.  Anything "wrong" in an ad, like dropping in "Easter Eggs" just to signal the Russians, who are not watching this in the first place, takes the attention off the message they wanted to send in the first place.  It's just conspiracy nut thinking patterns that turn on themselves and go nowhere.

As far as the theory that some Tyler Durden is deliberately splicing wrong footage into GOP spots to ruin them, it's far-fetched at  least, since you don't get re-hired after a fark-up like that, so it would have to be an army of Durden job candidates, as well as confederates in the client acceptance loops, each waiting for the chance to sabotage a spot... that's just too complicated and weak a plot to be real. That might happen one time for real, and the guy who did it would brag his ass off.  We're not seeing that.
 
2022-10-07 5:20:01 AM  

ModernLuddite: How does this keep happening?

And if it's intentional.....why? What is the point?


Because their real base loves Trump, Putting and Russia and enjoys making progressives twitch

That's the only voting bloc they care about chasing now.
 
2022-10-07 6:12:39 AM  

Klyukva: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: winedrinkingman: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.

It's like when they say they support the police, but then you have the Jan 6th riot, and then hundreds of incidents before and since of right wing nutjobs trying to murder the police.  Sometimes with success.  Hell the whole militia movement took off after a neo-Nazi gunsmith got in a stand off with the police, and tried to murder a bunch of them, because they were trying to arrest him for illegally modifying weapons, at Ruby Ridge.  Of course that is not the Republican spin on that particular story.  While the FBI and ATF did make some mistakes going into the standoff, but if you take Randy Weaver's word as gospel, you are a farking idiot.

Uhh - "make some mistakes?"  Seriously?  They sniped people down who weren't even firing, weren't even menacing - they killed his wife while she was standing at the door holding her baby.  When they knew a proper negotiation team was en route.  SOME MISTAKES??  That's not Republican spin, that's the GD after action report from the FBI - you know the people that did the sniping?  That shiat was off the rails from the beginning - end of story - and they farked it up to hell and sideways.  People study that as a "What not to do." example of how to handle a similar situation.  You're handwaving like crazy here Wine, it's not right wing nonsense to maintain it was a murderous clusterfark, because it was.  The FBI themselves came to that conclusion and their guy did it.  It was mishandled start to finish and people died that didn't even need to, end of story.  The fact that the guy was a farknut doesn't excuse that

Eventually the Justice Department agreed to pay him $3.1 million ($30 million in today's dollars) but denied wrongdoing.


That bit's a little off. $3.1M in 1995 should only equal  ~$6M in today money.
 
2022-10-07 6:28:40 AM  

FlippityFlap: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: winedrinkingman: Karma Chameleon: I assume it's intentional. The GOP has never supported American troops.

It's like when they say they support the police, but then you have the Jan 6th riot, and then hundreds of incidents before and since of right wing nutjobs trying to murder the police.  Sometimes with success.  Hell the whole militia movement took off after a neo-Nazi gunsmith got in a stand off with the police, and tried to murder a bunch of them, because they were trying to arrest him for illegally modifying weapons, at Ruby Ridge.  Of course that is not the Republican spin on that particular story.  While the FBI and ATF did make some mistakes going into the standoff, but if you take Randy Weaver's word as gospel, you are a farking idiot.

Uhh - "make some mistakes?"  Seriously?  They sniped people down who weren't even firing, weren't even menacing - they killed his wife while she was standing at the door holding her baby.  When they knew a proper negotiation team was en route.  SOME MISTAKES??  That's not Republican spin, that's the GD after action report from the FBI - you know the people that did the sniping?  That shiat was off the rails from the beginning - end of story - and they farked it up to hell and sideways.  People study that as a "What not to do." example of how to handle a similar situation.  You're handwaving like crazy here Wine, it's not right wing nonsense to maintain it was a murderous clusterfark, because it was.  The FBI themselves came to that conclusion and their guy did it.  It was mishandled start to finish and people died that didn't even need to, end of story.  The fact that the guy was a farknut doesn't excuse that

Your English gets better and better. Weird.


Snerk.  My written English is cyclical as hell, because A: I hurt, a lot, pretty much always, and B: I'm dysgraphic as all farking hell.  So gj amigo, not only have you managed to make stoopid insinuations you've also performed the equivalent of hassling a dyslexic with major pain issues to boot because they can't read properly.  GJ!

/English is my ONLY language
//you can't just wish away disabilities
///dick
 
2022-10-07 7:16:08 AM  
Here is GOP platform for 2023:

Is potato.
 
2022-10-07 7:22:22 AM  

NM Volunteer: When I do advertising for the museum, I always look over ads that others put together, and in writing (email) let them know the ads are approved.  So are GQP people just rubberstamping those ads?  Are they dumb enough to not know the difference between Russians and Americans, or are they not even looking at the ads?


The reason they're legally required to watch their own ads and do the "I approve this message" thing is because so many politicians used to claim to have never seen ads created by overzealous advertisers.
 
2022-10-07 8:26:50 AM  
I just got a bunch of "Camp Bow Wow" ads in this thread.

Has the Google ad engine figured out how to link crazy Republican female candidates together?
 
2022-10-07 9:51:38 AM  

BMFPitt: NM Volunteer: When I do advertising for the museum, I always look over ads that others put together, and in writing (email) let them know the ads are approved.  So are GQP people just rubberstamping those ads?  Are they dumb enough to not know the difference between Russians and Americans, or are they not even looking at the ads?

The reason they're legally required to watch their own ads and do the "I approve this message" thing is because so many politicians used to claim to have never seen ads created by overzealous advertisers.


This of course is all circumvented with PACs creating the ads now. So the Candidate can just say "See? Wasn't me."
 
2022-10-07 10:05:54 AM  

BMFPitt: NM Volunteer: When I do advertising for the museum, I always look over ads that others put together, and in writing (email) let them know the ads are approved.  So are GQP people just rubberstamping those ads?  Are they dumb enough to not know the difference between Russians and Americans, or are they not even looking at the ads?

The reason they're legally required to watch their own ads and do the "I approve this message" thing is because so many politicians used to claim to have never seen ads created by overzealous advertisers.


Imagine if poor Drew had to read and approve every post... heh

/they don't really compare
//the idea just cracked me up
///sure mods do poke around but... all of them?
 
2022-10-07 10:09:36 AM  

Any Pie Left: We've had this subject discussed here in previous threads. My take as a retired video editor is, there's no conspiracy; it is just a combination of incompetence and low budget penny-pinching.

These GOP candidates hire the cheapest outfits to make their spots and then don't do due diligence in their approval processes, because a typical spot of this nature is conceived, executed and broadcast in something like 24 to 48 hours.  The client is not an expert in stock footage. The client looks for the disclaimer copy to be within standards, that the graphics asked for meet the checklist they sent over, a cursory look and bam, on to the next job, cash the checks. (Typically political ad makers always insist on cash up front, for the ad buy as well as the production, because it is very typical that campaigns fold or move on without settling bills afterwards.)

 The execution is done by lowest-bidder types who don't hire the best people, they hire the -fastest- people, because deadlines are tight and they are billing by the hour... Those people cut corners all the time, and they are typically young and inexperienced at doing these spots professionally. The previous stuff they did ripped copyrighted sources left and right and nobody cared but now they are doing something for legit airwaves, under the gun. They have a few stock footage sources by experience that they hit over and over, if they can't find free public domain stuff. The cheap stuff and the free public domain stuff are often sourced from European-based footage providers. If you pick carefully, some European imagery will pass for American, I use Pexels shots that way, but generally there's always subtle cues it's off-brand. GOP clients and the lowball production companies they hire are anything but subtle. They are not observant, discerning, or particular.

This stuff isn't intentional or some kind of secret messaging; it's just sloppy work by sloppy people.  Anyway, there's no point in running American ads to impress some Russians back in Russia. If a candidate is actually Russian-backed, let's just assume for the moment that that is true, and game this out, the campaign spot's only goal is to get that puppet candidate elected, or a legit candidate defeated, so that the elected candidate can be put to use furthering Russian goals.  Anything "wrong" in an ad, like dropping in "Easter Eggs" just to signal the Russians, who are not watching this in the first place, takes the attention off the message they wanted to send in the first place.  It's just conspiracy nut thinking patterns that turn on themselves and go nowhere.

As far as the theory that some Tyler Durden is deliberately splicing wrong footage into GOP spots to ruin them, it's far-fetched at  least, since you don't get re-hired after a fark-up like that, so it would have to be an army of Durden job candidates, as well as confederates in the client acceptance loops, each waiting for the chance to sabotage a spot... that's just too complicated and weak a plot to be real. That might happen one time for real, and the guy who did it would brag his ass off.  We're not seeing that.


I think this pretty well sums it up. Competence costs money and these campaigns went with the lowest bidder.  They likely used the first non-watermarked images/footage they found.  Fact-checking?  We don't have time for that.
 
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