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2022-10-06 3:32:45 PM  
Silly article. Academic studies of vampires is invalid if you don't include What We Do In The Shadows as part of the data set. Everyone knows that documentary series is the only series on real vampires. Pfft.
 
2022-10-06 3:38:35 PM  
Dracula creates one vampire in the course of the story--Lucy Westenra. Both Mina and Jonathan get fed off of multiple times and don't immediately turn into vampires, and presumably Renfield was fed off as well.
 
2022-10-06 3:41:45 PM  
"Peaceful co-existence of two species is a reality."

This was written by a vampire.

In fact, I'm pretty sure the whole thing was written by a vampire.
 
2022-10-06 3:42:43 PM  
FTFA: According to the first scenario, the Stoker-King model-based on vampires as delineated in Bram Stoker's Dracula and Stephen King's Salem's Lot-80 percent of the human population would be exterminated within the first 165 days of initial vampiric activity.

I wonder if any of the researchers read I Am Legend?
 
2022-10-06 4:03:37 PM  
So they're assuming everyone who dies becomes a vampire? I thought it was something of a ritual where the victim had to be given vampiric blood after being drained.
 
2022-10-06 4:04:39 PM  
Nonsense.  Canada has been completely overrun by vampires for decades and humanity hasn't been wiped out yet.

"Dracula: the Series" and "Forever Knight" were warnings.  Heck, they even sent a ghost ship full of zombie plague rats loose hoping it would crash into Whitby several years back.  When a Tim Horton's appears in your town, be aware, because that's them sending their cruller-wielding Renfields to probe for weaknesses, and not long after you'll be 20 deep in bloofer ladies.

Study it out, sheeple!
 
2022-10-06 4:05:23 PM  
so they imagine vampires also cannot live sustainably?

kinda crazy how little fiction tends to differ from the authors own reality hun?
 
2022-10-06 4:06:13 PM  
I would think the vampires would be extinct.  Blood consumption is a highly inefficient method of caloric intake.

Not to mention they're utterly propped up by the supernatural, which is what makes the stories fun because you must suspend disbelief. Kind of like how the whole concept of werewolves falls apart when you start thinking about the conservation of mass and energy (and zoology, biology and...). Look, the Devil did it. Be scared.
 
2022-10-06 4:11:40 PM  
80 percent of the human population would be exterminated within the first 165 days of initial vampiric activity

and what are the down sides?
 
2022-10-06 4:11:54 PM  
THIS farking thing again? it's this stupid article that made me quit livescience.com altogether. This is a really stupid thing for them to waste time researching, let alone publishing.
 
2022-10-06 4:28:57 PM  
Vampires are actually scary at night, but extremely vulnerable during the day.

If you have the religious variant, there are plenty of ways to protect yourself from them while they're active.

If you have the non-religious variant, there are plenty of ways to kill them any time of day or night.

You have to assume they are few and control their feeding to avoid discovery, knowing they'd be extinct within a day of the living realizing vampires were real.   Meaning and model of their potential spread has to include them unliving in constant fear, barely daring to come out of hiding to feed.
 
2022-10-06 4:30:27 PM  
Most vampire stories I've read or seen in movies and tv.
Vamps go out of their way generally to not make new vamps.
Unless it's someone they want to spend time with.
 
2022-10-06 4:36:19 PM  

karl2025: So they're assuming everyone who dies becomes a vampire? I thought it was something of a ritual where the victim had to be given vampiric blood after being drained.


That might have been an explanation that Anne Rice came up with later. In the original stories and movies, especially the Hammer films, it's always firmly stated that anyone bitten by a vampire will become one after they die. Though it does allow the wiggle room that maybe you only become a vampire if you die from a bite, and maybe if Dracula noshes on your neck the night before but leaves you alive, and the next morning you get hit by a carriage, you don't come back.
 
2022-10-06 4:38:13 PM  
With that rational, cows would be extinct by now too.  For some reason they aren't and I posit there's more of them alive today then at any other point in history.
 
2022-10-06 4:43:00 PM  
If vampires weren't real why would these people devote their lives to hunting them down?

Vampire Research Society

Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency
 
2022-10-06 4:46:52 PM  
So they built a 2 by 2 matrix, slapped some BIG assumptions onto the predator-prey model and solved?

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I should start publishing my weird hobby-math to journals...
 
2022-10-06 4:48:12 PM  

Trik: If vampires weren't real why would these people devote their lives to hunting them down?

Vampire Research Society

Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency


Because it's a fun profession to bring up at parties and practically guarantees you'll never do any real work?

Incidentally, how much do they pay and are they hiring? Asking for a friend.
 
2022-10-06 4:55:16 PM  
Vampires would have a vested interest in keeping us around because we are their food source.
 
2022-10-06 4:58:55 PM  

iheartscotch: Vampires would have a vested interest in keeping us around because we are their food source.


Humans consume roughly 36 million cows every year.  At this rate, cows have been extinct since 1843.
 
2022-10-06 4:59:39 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Vampires are actually scary at night, but extremely vulnerable during the day.

If you have the religious variant, there are plenty of ways to protect yourself from them while they're active.

If you have the non-religious variant, there are plenty of ways to kill them any time of day or night.

You have to assume they are few and control their feeding to avoid discovery, knowing they'd be extinct within a day of the living realizing vampires were real.   Meaning and model of their potential spread has to include them unliving in constant fear, barely daring to come out of hiding to feed.


A couple years ago I heard Vampire the Masquerade restarted its original storyline (nobody liked vampire UN setting they replaced it with), and updated its lore for the 21st Century. Took a gander at it and found some interesting turns.

Apparently the Nosferatu and Ventrue clans farked up and got discovered through sloppy Internet security, modern camera tech and government espionage, as well as an ancient Venture prince of London tired of unlife and its bullshiat, giving governments info in a c'mon break my door down and kill me please and fark the rest of you other bloodsuckers suicide.

To protect themselves and vampiredom at large, the two vampire clans conspired, made up fake evidence and rerouted the blame -- and heat from humanity -- toward the doorstep of the Tremere leadership. Despite being thousands-of-years-old powerful wizards who became vampires by cannibalizing an ancient demigod-level clan founder they discovered and defeated, the Tremere elders were easily destroyed in their mystic Austrian HQ by modern military tactics in a daylight raid with a few Vatican witch hunters in attendance.
 
2022-10-06 5:05:08 PM  

BumpInTheNight: With that rational, cows would be extinct by now too.  For some reason they aren't and I posit there's more of them alive today then at any other point in history.


According to my google search, the average person eats 1 cow in 8.5 years. If we each ate a cow in a week or less, the models in TFA would apply.
 
2022-10-06 5:08:27 PM  
(They also threw in a bit of sass: "Apparently, whomever devised the vampire legend had failed his college algebra and philosophy courses.")

Anyone that sure if themselves is almost surely wrong. As it is in this case.

1. Not every human victim of a vampire becomes a vampire.

2. Since vampires are dead (or properly undead) they don't need to feed to continue to exist, as with the living. The need to feed to be active. However many (most? all?) vampires get bored with existence without end and generally become less active and therefore feed less as the centuries pass. (Anyone who's seen Zardoz is familiar with this phenomenon.)

A quick scan of TFA leads me to think they used a constant rate of feeding with each instance creating a new vampire.

3. Movies aren't real. If you're basing your research on what you see in movies, even for a tongue-in-cheek paper such as this, you might as well kick yourself in the groin.

Should I base my opinion of scientific researchers on what I see in the movies?
 
2022-10-06 5:14:56 PM  

KRSESQ: FTFA: According to the first scenario, the Stoker-King model-based on vampires as delineated in Bram Stoker's Dracula and Stephen King's Salem's Lot-80 percent of the human population would be exterminated within the first 165 days of initial vampiric activity.

I wonder if any of the researchers read I Am Legend?


Or any of the vampire stories where creating a new vampire can only be made intentionally. Interview with the Vampire is good example.
 
2022-10-06 5:16:24 PM  

Karma Chameleon: 80 percent of the human population would be exterminated within the first 165 days of initial vampiric activity

and what are the down sides?


I feel like that model requires several compliant airlines.
 
2022-10-06 5:16:35 PM  
Also, to build on that "don't believe everything you see in the movies" they based their rate of vampires feeding on movies.

Movies, by their nature, focus on exceptional periods. Did they watch Die Hard and think John McClain spends most of his time crawling in A/C ducts year round? Did they watch the Blues Brothers and protest cars wouldn't exist if they crashed at that rate, therefore car crashes never happen in real life?

Of course movies show vampires active and feeding. Who's going to watch a vampire sleep for 6 months between hunts?
 
2022-10-06 5:27:27 PM  

Practical_Draconian: Unsung_Hero: Vampires are actually scary at night, but extremely vulnerable during the day.

If you have the religious variant, there are plenty of ways to protect yourself from them while they're active.

If you have the non-religious variant, there are plenty of ways to kill them any time of day or night.

You have to assume they are few and control their feeding to avoid discovery, knowing they'd be extinct within a day of the living realizing vampires were real.   Meaning and model of their potential spread has to include them unliving in constant fear, barely daring to come out of hiding to feed.

A couple years ago I heard Vampire the Masquerade restarted its original storyline (nobody liked vampire UN setting they replaced it with), and updated its lore for the 21st Century. Took a gander at it and found some interesting turns.

Apparently the Nosferatu and Ventrue clans farked up and got discovered through sloppy Internet security, modern camera tech and government espionage, as well as an ancient Venture prince of London tired of unlife and its bullshiat, giving governments info in a c'mon break my door down and kill me please and fark the rest of you other bloodsuckers suicide.

To protect themselves and vampiredom at large, the two vampire clans conspired, made up fake evidence and rerouted the blame -- and heat from humanity -- toward the doorstep of the Tremere leadership. Despite being thousands-of-years-old powerful wizards who became vampires by cannibalizing an ancient demigod-level clan founder they discovered and defeated, the Tremere elders were easily destroyed in their mystic Austrian HQ by modern military tactics in a daylight raid with a few Vatican witch hunters in attendance.


Oh no.  Anyway.

*smirks in satisfied Tzimisce*
 
2022-10-06 6:00:55 PM  
The obvious vampire solution is to combine farming humans with regulated hunting. The insatiable vampire would be the equivalent of a poacher and would be treated as a criminal. So the massive human farms would raise people to 'stock' towns and cities with victims for the vampires to try to catch, the same way we raise trout to stock in lakes for people who like fishing. Game preserves would have free range humans for the vampires to hunt. Sometimes biting a human while they are watching tv just doesn't have the same kick as chasing down a human in the woods while wolves howl mournfully in the distance. Poachers would have to do their hunting in the vampire golden hour as punishment. The hour right before sunrise and right after sunset.
 
2022-10-06 6:06:58 PM  
MrBonestripper:

To protect themselves and vampiredom at large, the two vampire clans conspired, made up fake evidence and rerouted the blame -- and heat from humanity -- toward the doorstep of the Tremere leadership. Despite being thousands-of-years-old powerful wizards who became vampires by cannibalizing an ancient demigod-level clan founder they discovered and defeated, the Tremere elders were easily destroyed in their mystic Austrian HQ by modern military tactics in a daylight raid with a few Vatican witch hunters in attendance.

Oh no.  Anyway.

*smirks in satisfied Tzimisce*


Never got around to playing pen and paper VtM (just video games) but I would've gone for Follower of Set, who have an interesting (face?) turn in the new lore.

They've renamed the clan and rebranded their operations, ditched Set on the god-vampire's order/suggestion to appeal with the times, and now have an alliance with the Gangrel and Brujah, palling with them as opposition to the Camarilla faction vamps. Talk about strange bedfellows; the two clans closest to being "good guy vampires" and snake-y cultist vamps who still live off corrupting others as much as blood.

/Tzimisce status is unknown in the lore, btw. Most Lasombra partners bailed on the Sabbat for the stability of the Camarilla. Remainder of Sabbat faction population is busy on safari in chaotic Middle East and former Soviet Republics, hunting disturbed ancients to cannibalize and get stronger for a later global showdown. Word is they're succeeding despite losses.
 
2022-10-06 6:12:16 PM  

EdgeRunner: karl2025: So they're assuming everyone who dies becomes a vampire? I thought it was something of a ritual where the victim had to be given vampiric blood after being drained.

That might have been an explanation that Anne Rice came up with later. In the original stories and movies, especially the Hammer films, it's always firmly stated that anyone bitten by a vampire will become one after they die. Though it does allow the wiggle room that maybe you only become a vampire if you die from a bite, and maybe if Dracula noshes on your neck the night before but leaves you alive, and the next morning you get hit by a carriage, you don't come back.


In Stoker's Dracula, the exchange of blood is explicit. Mina's gradual transformation into a vampire is described in terms of this 'poison'. The vampires feed on more than just Lucy and Mina so there should be more otherwise (such as the babies Dracula steals from the village and delivers to his lady friends).

"And you, their best beloved one, are now to me, flesh of my flesh; blood of my blood; kin of my kin; my bountiful wine-press for a while; and shall be later on my companion and my helper. You shall be avenged in turn; for not one of them but shall minister to your needs. But as yet you are to be punished for what you have done. You have aided in thwarting me; now you shall come to my call. When my brain says "Come!" to you, you shall cross land or sea to do my bidding; and to that end this!' With that he pulled open his shirt, and with his long sharp nails opened a vein in his breast. When the blood began to spurt out, he took my hands in one of his, holding them tight, and with the other seized my neck and pressed my mouth to the wound, so that I must either suffocate or swallow some of the-- Oh my God! my God! what have I done? What have I done to deserve such a fate, I who have tried to walk in meekness and righteousness all my days. God pity me! Look down on a poor soul in worse than mortal peril; and in mercy pity those to whom she is dear!" Then she began to rub her lips as though to cleanse them from pollution.
 
2022-10-06 6:25:19 PM  

falkone32: EdgeRunner: karl2025: So they're assuming everyone who dies becomes a vampire? I thought it was something of a ritual where the victim had to be given vampiric blood after being drained.

That might have been an explanation that Anne Rice came up with later. In the original stories and movies, especially the Hammer films, it's always firmly stated that anyone bitten by a vampire will become one after they die. Though it does allow the wiggle room that maybe you only become a vampire if you die from a bite, and maybe if Dracula noshes on your neck the night before but leaves you alive, and the next morning you get hit by a carriage, you don't come back.

In Stoker's Dracula, the exchange of blood is explicit. Mina's gradual transformation into a vampire is described in terms of this 'poison'. The vampires feed on more than just Lucy and Mina so there should be more otherwise (such as the babies Dracula steals from the village and delivers to his lady friends).

"And you, their best beloved one, are now to me, flesh of my flesh; blood of my blood; kin of my kin; my bountiful wine-press for a while; and shall be later on my companion and my helper. You shall be avenged in turn; for not one of them but shall minister to your needs. But as yet you are to be punished for what you have done. You have aided in thwarting me; now you shall come to my call. When my brain says "Come!" to you, you shall cross land or sea to do my bidding; and to that end this!' With that he pulled open his shirt, and with his long sharp nails opened a vein in his breast. When the blood began to spurt out, he took my hands in one of his, holding them tight, and with the other seized my neck and pressed my mouth to the wound, so that I must either suffocate or swallow some of the-- Oh my God! my God! what have I done? What have I done to deserve such a fate, I who have tried to walk in meekness and righteousness all my days. God pity me! Look down on a poor soul in worse than mortal peril; and in mercy pity those to whom she is dear!" Then she began to rub her lips as though to cleanse them from pollution.


The bloodsharing is explicit with Mina and could be read that way, but not so much with Lucy. And I was referring to the movie adaptations, specifically Hammer's, in which a single bite is enough to turn someone. There's no requirement to drink vampire blood afterwards.

We're all familiar with the most basic vampire lore, which is what this math exercise is based on. And it's all in fun, so there's no need to nitpick it too heavily unless you think the vampires are using it as a smokescreen to trick people into believing they're not real.
 
2022-10-06 6:30:35 PM  

Anim: BumpInTheNight: With that rational, cows would be extinct by now too.  For some reason they aren't and I posit there's more of them alive today then at any other point in history.

According to my google search, the average person eats 1 cow in 8.5 years. If we each ate a cow in a week or less, the models in TFA would apply.


Humans eat things other than cow.

There are 450 calories in a blood donation. And if we assume most of humanity isn't fat, even if they juiced us like apples, that 4500 to 6000 ish calories for all 10-12 units. And people tend to die after 4 units of blood are gone, when vampires stop feeding.

They would have to have an aligator's metabolism to not be starving by only feeding 1 person a week. And considering vampires are supposed to be human-like, it is an unsustainable fantasy creature.
 
2022-10-06 6:39:01 PM  

Practical_Draconian: Unsung_Hero: Vampires are actually scary at night, but extremely vulnerable during the day.

If you have the religious variant, there are plenty of ways to protect yourself from them while they're active.

If you have the non-religious variant, there are plenty of ways to kill them any time of day or night.

You have to assume they are few and control their feeding to avoid discovery, knowing they'd be extinct within a day of the living realizing vampires were real.   Meaning and model of their potential spread has to include them unliving in constant fear, barely daring to come out of hiding to feed.

A couple years ago I heard Vampire the Masquerade restarted its original storyline (nobody liked vampire UN setting they replaced it with), and updated its lore for the 21st Century. Took a gander at it and found some interesting turns.

Apparently the Nosferatu and Ventrue clans farked up and got discovered through sloppy Internet security, modern camera tech and government espionage, as well as an ancient Venture prince of London tired of unlife and its bullshiat, giving governments info in a c'mon break my door down and kill me please and fark the rest of you other bloodsuckers suicide.

To protect themselves and vampiredom at large, the two vampire clans conspired, made up fake evidence and rerouted the blame -- and heat from humanity -- toward the doorstep of the Tremere leadership. Despite being thousands-of-years-old powerful wizards who became vampires by cannibalizing an ancient demigod-level clan founder they discovered and defeated, the Tremere elders were easily destroyed in their mystic Austrian HQ by modern military tactics in a daylight raid with a few Vatican witch hunters in attendance.


So Qanon was started by a bored Malkavian?
 
2022-10-06 6:39:37 PM  

Anim: BumpInTheNight: With that rational, cows would be extinct by now too.  For some reason they aren't and I posit there's more of them alive today then at any other point in history.

According to my google search, the average person eats 1 cow in 8.5 years. If we each ate a cow in a week or less, the models in TFA would apply.


That seems kinda slow. I buy (approximately) half a cow a year and that's only the actual cuts of meat, so generously maybe a cow every 4 years? And i'm not even a big guy
 
2022-10-06 6:40:07 PM  

palelizard: Dracula creates one vampire in the course of the story--Lucy Westenra. Both Mina and Jonathan get fed off of multiple times and don't immediately turn into vampires, and presumably Renfield was fed off as well.


And dracula was like the sum of all vampires, including multiple different legends. totally OP.

And he was killed by a random Texan with a knife.
 
2022-10-06 6:43:31 PM  
Delicious Beef Cow Researchers say if Human Slaughterhouses were real, we cows would be extinct by now.

I kid. But seriously, the only way vampires could exist in our modern world would be if they were deeply involved with the intelligence community.

We live in a world where data is collected on all of us all the time. Remember that story about how Target's targeted (heh) advertising algorithm predicted that a teenager was pregnant before her own family knew? Big data knows way more about all of us than we realize. And that's just the algorithms that a private, civilian retail chain has access to. Intelligence agencies aren't limited to data about your consumerism. Given the behaviors and cyclical patterns vampires would have to do to be vampires, if they really did exist the CIA and their counterparts around the would know it, where they kept their pairs, etc.

Of course, the truth is vampires haven't existed since the 1940s. Medieval folklore described their main weakness as sunlight because there was no way scholars and folklorists from the Middle Ages could have known about their weakness to the isotope Strontium-90. Vampires themselves didn't know it, after all. The global undead community had no idea why they suddenly lost contact with all their brethren in the American Southwest after the Trinity Test. There's enough baseline measurable levels of strontium-90 in our atmosphere today, thanks to early atomic bomb tests, that vampires won't be able to safely return to earth (from Sirius) for another 18 million years.
 
2022-10-06 6:45:03 PM  

AppleOptionEsc: . And considering vampires are supposed to be human-like, it is an unsustainable fantasy creature.


On some level, all fantasy creatures are unsustainable. That's why they're fantasies.

Vampires can supposedly also change into animals or mist, and then reform themselves along with their complete fancy outfits and capes. Their feeding habits aren't so impossible as hemovores do exist, but their transformations and near imperviousness to most things puts them solidly in the realm of make believe. For a good vampire tale, they just need to hold true to the established rules of that particular story, not actual biology.
 
2022-10-06 6:51:35 PM  
Oh FFS. Just ask these people:

http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com/
 
2022-10-06 7:24:09 PM  
About a decade or so ago I was reading a lot of vampire dystopian short stories. Collections about zombies as well.

Mostly they ended on a sad note, as the last humans were consumed. Mostly toward the second half of the anthology.

There's people selling and buying the idea of imagining the end of humanity.

I don't know if we'd manage to arise to the occasion if anything was capable of killing massive numbers of us. We seem plenty fine with shockingly large numbers dying for lack of food, war, that virus thing, and so on.
 
2022-10-06 7:38:55 PM  
If you destroy the kine you end your own bloodline.

Seems like a mistake.
 
2022-10-06 8:53:56 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Vampires are actually scary at night, but extremely vulnerable during the day.

If you have the religious variant, there are plenty of ways to protect yourself from them while they're active.

If you have the non-religious variant, there are plenty of ways to kill them any time of day or night.

You have to assume they are few and control their feeding to avoid discovery, knowing they'd be extinct within a day of the living realizing vampires were real.   Meaning and model of their potential spread has to include them unliving in constant fear, barely daring to come out of hiding to feed.


This. Unless you rig the game to invincible superhuman monsters it turns out that humans who knew what vampires were would be able to wipe them out pretty efficiently.

Then again
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2022-10-06 9:17:35 PM  

Fano: Unsung_Hero: Vampires are actually scary at night, but extremely vulnerable during the day.

If you have the religious variant, there are plenty of ways to protect yourself from them while they're active.

If you have the non-religious variant, there are plenty of ways to kill them any time of day or night.

You have to assume they are few and control their feeding to avoid discovery, knowing they'd be extinct within a day of the living realizing vampires were real.   Meaning and model of their potential spread has to include them unliving in constant fear, barely daring to come out of hiding to feed.

This. Unless you rig the game to invincible superhuman monsters it turns out that humans who knew what vampires were would be able to wipe them out pretty efficiently.

Then again
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2022-10-06 10:26:39 PM  
These models underestimate just how efficient humans are at killing things. Look at the ridiculous number of animal species humans have driven into extinction. Nearly every animal from the Pleistocene era that preyed on humans is extinct now. Once we figured out vampires were existed and were killing us, we would hunt down and murder every last vampire in existence and anyone we even suspected of being a vampire just for good measure.
 
2022-10-06 10:50:08 PM  
Humans eat cows
And we have to kill them to eat them
Cows still exist

Vampires eat humans
They don't have to kill us
Humans would still exist

Whoever did these studies obviously used terrible premises in their model
 
2022-10-06 11:08:50 PM  

palelizard: "Peaceful co-existence of two species is a reality."

This was written by a vampire.

In fact, I'm pretty sure the whole thing was written by a vampire.


Exactly. They actually LOVE garlic and spread the rumor just so we self-season!
 
2022-10-06 11:54:22 PM  

Birnone: The obvious vampire solution is to combine farming humans with regulated hunting. The insatiable vampire would be the equivalent of a poacher and would be treated as a criminal. So the massive human farms would raise people to 'stock' towns and cities with victims for the vampires to try to catch, the same way we raise trout to stock in lakes for people who like fishing. Game preserves would have free range humans for the vampires to hunt. Sometimes biting a human while they are watching tv just doesn't have the same kick as chasing down a human in the woods while wolves howl mournfully in the distance. Poachers would have to do their hunting in the vampire golden hour as punishment. The hour right before sunrise and right after sunset.


Why do you think human society has been so-rapidly urbanizing for a couple centuries now?  Nice, convenient cities, dense with food people, and a society increasingly focused on a wild nightlife where people wander about in strange places and socialize with strangers while young and tasty wild, all lit dimly enough to keep it shadowy for stealthy stalking of prey mysterious.  Hell, apartment buildings are rental units, where you can't even rely on home ownership's ancient protections to keep the vamps out.

Cities are vampire game preserves, man.  They keep us all fat and lazy and begging to be taken, while keep just enough possible escape routes that, in theory, you might be able to get away, so the vamps even get to enjoy a little prey-chase in the process, if they're so inclined.
 
2022-10-07 1:56:57 AM  
Just watched the Let The Right One In first episode on Showtime.  It's good so far. Wish they would've showed the first 2 episodes then went weekly.
 
2022-10-07 7:04:21 AM  
Unless they're space vampires, in which case the undead plague burns out quickly after they scoot

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/Movie is a mess, but I still like it
//Beyond the gratuitous nudity
 
2022-10-07 7:23:36 AM  
EdgeRunner: The bloodsharing is explicit with Mina and could be read that way, but not so much with Lucy. And I was referring to the movie adaptations, specifically Hammer's, in which a single bite is enough to turn someone. There's no requirement to drink vampire blood afterwards.

"The Lost Boys" also required a human victim to drink vampire blood in order to become a vampire: "Drink some of this, Michael. Be one of us."
 
2022-10-07 7:35:44 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: EdgeRunner: The bloodsharing is explicit with Mina and could be read that way, but not so much with Lucy. And I was referring to the movie adaptations, specifically Hammer's, in which a single bite is enough to turn someone. There's no requirement to drink vampire blood afterwards.

"The Lost Boys" also required a human victim to drink vampire blood in order to become a vampire: "Drink some of this, Michael. Be one of us."


Yeah, but that's also an 80s movie that had its own take on the lore. The most common concept has always been "bit by a vampire, become a vampire". Fright Night dealt with it by having its main vampire behead the victims he didn't want coming back.
 
2022-10-07 8:18:00 AM  
I would get bit on purpose so I could see future cars

Key & Peele - Sexy Vampires
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