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(NPR)   It's rare for your personality to change after it's set in young adulthood, but, since the pandemic, "researchers noted significant declines in the traits that help us navigate social situations, trust others, think creatively, and act responsibly"   (npr.org) divider line
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2022-10-06 11:04:22 AM  
Well two of those can be explained by the mask freak-out:  The lack or personal responsibility displayed by the idiots who refused to wear them caused many of us to lose significant trust in our fellow man
 
2022-10-06 11:11:53 AM  
For me, these last few years wiped away my whimsical thoughts that people today can act rationally and compassionately when faced with a widespread threat.

I'm assuming the worst in people by default and hoping they prove otherwise. I wasn't always like this.
 
2022-10-06 11:16:25 AM  
I have a 14-year-old daughter.  I'm really concerned about her, with cellphone addiction, the covid pandemic upending her life and schooling for two years, constant political and economic turmoil both in the US and globally, combined with all the other angst and uncertainty that has always been part and parcel of the mid-to-late teenage years.  I really don't know if she understands how to stay focused, be diligent, have goals, manage changing social situations, etc.  She also seems very difficult to talk to about these things and tends to just shut me out a lot of the time (again, teenager, I realize, but still...)  Does not help that her mother and I do not get along well at all.

I'm very concerned about her and her generation's ability to cope with all the crap that has been thrown at them.
 
2022-10-06 11:33:31 AM  

MSkow: For me, these last few years wiped away my whimsical thoughts that people today can act rationally and compassionately when faced with a widespread threat.


The generations we spent ignoring the growing threat of environmental collapse (which includes climate change) did that for me.  When the pandemic began, which was just the latest manifestation of our complete disdain for the environment, I fully expected asshole behavior and a complete lack of compassion.
 
2022-10-06 11:36:35 AM  
The pandemic was just the booze people normally need to be their true selves. Unmitigated stupid assholes looking for a rationale to validate being unmitigated stupid assholes.
 
2022-10-06 11:38:47 AM  
That's not pandemic, that's phones and social media sucking personalities away from people.
 
2022-10-06 11:53:00 AM  
I mean that's bad an all, but I do love getting away from the constant drone of
how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how are you i'm fine how
 
2022-10-06 12:15:00 PM  
I would have hoped that if you have a family, it brought you closer together.  This isn't trying to sound all woe is me or something, but..

The whole thing really took me much further away from my social network and my closest friends, and i'm still trying to cope with the loss of community & friendships that fell apart over that time.  I live alone, already don't exactly have a whole lot in middle age. I barely coped through it by listening to music constantly & playing instruments.  farking. I tuned out, played fallout 76 for hours every night and weekend, but  I couldn't escape the pandemic or blow it off, because the hospital i work for was blowing up with admissions and there were a zillion IT changes needed on a daily basis.

Really don't know if my social needs moving forward are going to be met, because many of the people I was close to either moved on or seem perfectly happy not seeing or talking to anyone.
 
2022-10-06 12:21:24 PM  
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2022-10-06 12:28:54 PM  

Magorn: Well two of those can be explained by the mask freak-out:  The lack or personal responsibility displayed by the idiots who refused to wear them caused many of us to lose significant trust in our fellow man


Them: My lack of reason negatively impacts my family
Me: Okay
Them: My lack of reason negatively impacts your family
Me: Fark off

It isn't just the lack of masking and the spread of Covid.  It is the complete break from reality that has affected so many people, how that drives their behavior, and how that behavior could cause harm to my loved ones.  It really changes your perception of the people around you and how you engage with them.  It is emotionally draining.

Most of my friends feel the same way.
 
2022-10-06 12:37:48 PM  
I hate being around people anymore, not that I ever was fond of it to begin with. I don't trust anyone to be competent, of which I am proven to be correct more times than not.

But the weird thing, is that I now tend to be nicer to everyone. More polite, and give them more slack. Like I am dealing with a bunch of kindergartners who just don't have a clue what is going on.  Except when I am driving, then I cuss people out like a truck driver with Tourette's.
Sometimes I feel like I am the only person around that is fully awake or sober.
 
2022-10-06 12:49:22 PM  
ohmygod, where did that come from--something that seems to affect most of us, is detrimental to society, and  makes us act like  children?  It sounds serious.

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But you know I enjoy my life of petty grievances and unattainable material goals.  This has not affected my mental health AT ALL, and you can read about it on my blog.
If that won't work, I have some pics of my precious love cave that will bring in $4.  Please buy my stuff, my happiness depends on it.
 
2022-10-06 12:52:09 PM  
how do you tease that out from the effect the of todays political/social milieu and fractured society tho?
 
2022-10-06 12:54:52 PM  

BurghDude: I have a 14-year-old daughter.  I'm really concerned about her, with cellphone addiction, the covid pandemic upending her life and schooling for two years, constant political and economic turmoil both in the US and globally, combined with all the other angst and uncertainty that has always been part and parcel of the mid-to-late teenage years.  I really don't know if she understands how to stay focused, be diligent, have goals, manage changing social situations, etc.  She also seems very difficult to talk to about these things and tends to just shut me out a lot of the time (again, teenager, I realize, but still...)  Does not help that her mother and I do not get along well at all.
I'm very concerned about her and her generation's ability to cope with all the crap that has been thrown at them.


People are going to think I wrote this book, but if you're even slightly into how we think, check this out.

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It's always going to be hard.  Living is not easy. But we have corrupted our ties to each other with technology, and that makes it much harder.  Computers can't replace people in the important ways--but they've been sold to us as though they can.
If we survive what we've set in motion, it will be because we remembered our humanity, not because some farking tech saved us, no matter what the farking financial pages tell you.  If they didn't lie, we wouldn't be in this fix would we?
But guess who controls all the money?
 
2022-10-06 1:06:27 PM  

Beokitten: how do you tease that out from the effect the of todays political/social milieu and fractured society tho?


What CAUSED our fractured society?  Inequality, mostly. Our desires being created by marketers, instead of ourselves, and only some of us can get in on that fantasy world.  But we're all SUPPOSED TO.  It was fake when our culture made this shiat up, so that our country could grow to the beached whale size it is now, and it's fake now.  The price is too high and there's no end to what we're "supposed" to want.  How can anyone have a stable, happy existence with that bullshiat going on, day and night, for our entire lives?

It gets worse all the time, because the hedonic treadmill always gets more expensive and more unattainable.   CAPITALISM  It's always us. We pay for it, and we want it.   It's not some goddamn ethereal "they" who wants to harm us. Fark, half of you guys WORK for these assholes.  Because you want the money. Because greed drives us, instead of human relationships.

And we will fail, just like we're failing right now, except it's going to get much, much faster.
And you big fat men can laugh all you like, behind your wall of money, but you're a failure on any real scale of anything.  Your life doesn't allow all of us to live.  Why the FARK are you allowed to tell us how the world works?


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This guy went to Oxford and he thinks you're a farking idiot.  He's right too.
 
2022-10-06 1:34:20 PM  

cryinoutloud: Beokitten: how do you tease that out from the effect the of todays political/social milieu and fractured society tho?

What CAUSED our fractured society?  Inequality, mostly. Our desires being created by marketers, instead of ourselves, and only some of us can get in on that fantasy world.  But we're all SUPPOSED TO.  It was fake when our culture made this shiat up, so that our country could grow to the beached whale size it is now, and it's fake now.  The price is too high and there's no end to what we're "supposed" to want.  How can anyone have a stable, happy existence with that bullshiat going on, day and night, for our entire lives?

It gets worse all the time, because the hedonic treadmill always gets more expensive and more unattainable.   CAPITALISM  It's always us. We pay for it, and we want it.   It's not some goddamn ethereal "they" who wants to harm us. Fark, half of you guys WORK for these assholes.  Because you want the money. Because greed drives us, instead of human relationships.

And we will fail, just like we're failing right now, except it's going to get much, much faster.
And you big fat men can laugh all you like, behind your wall of money, but you're a failure on any real scale of anything.  Your life doesn't allow all of us to live.  Why the FARK are you allowed to tell us how the world works?


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This guy went to Oxford and he thinks you're a farking idiot.  He's right too.


wut? you really went on a tangent full of assumptions, didn't you? yes, it was inequality and all that you mentioned. which means it was *NOT* just the pandemic that affected our personalities and reason as the article suggests.
 
2022-10-06 2:14:45 PM  

stuhayes2010: That's not pandemic, that's phones and social media sucking personalities away from people.


I think the pandemic probably had a big impact in forcing millions of people to start interacting entirely via phone / chat / email instead of face-to-face.
 
2022-10-06 2:38:10 PM  

cryinoutloud: BurghDude: I have a 14-year-old daughter.  I'm really concerned about her, with cellphone addiction, the covid pandemic upending her life and schooling for two years, constant political and economic turmoil both in the US and globally, combined with all the other angst and uncertainty that has always been part and parcel of the mid-to-late teenage years.  I really don't know if she understands how to stay focused, be diligent, have goals, manage changing social situations, etc.  She also seems very difficult to talk to about these things and tends to just shut me out a lot of the time (again, teenager, I realize, but still...)  Does not help that her mother and I do not get along well at all.
I'm very concerned about her and her generation's ability to cope with all the crap that has been thrown at them.

People are going to think I wrote this book, but if you're even slightly into how we think, check this out.

[media-amazon.com image 294x440]

It's always going to be hard.  Living is not easy. But we have corrupted our ties to each other with technology, and that makes it much harder.  Computers can't replace people in the important ways--but they've been sold to us as though they can.
If we survive what we've set in motion, it will be because we remembered our humanity, not because some farking tech saved us, no matter what the farking financial pages tell you.  If they didn't lie, we wouldn't be in this fix would we?
But guess who controls all the money?


A lot of our makeup evolved around the social aspects you describe. I think it would be difficult to put the tech genie back in the bottle - outside of being identified as the dominant contributor in very obvious climate change. I've thought about this and wonder if tech actually won't nudge our evolution
 
2022-10-06 2:42:57 PM  

cryinoutloud: BurghDude: I have a 14-year-old daughter.  I'm really concerned about her, with cellphone addiction, the covid pandemic upending her life and schooling for two years, constant political and economic turmoil both in the US and globally, combined with all the other angst and uncertainty that has always been part and parcel of the mid-to-late teenage years.  I really don't know if she understands how to stay focused, be diligent, have goals, manage changing social situations, etc.  She also seems very difficult to talk to about these things and tends to just shut me out a lot of the time (again, teenager, I realize, but still...)  Does not help that her mother and I do not get along well at all.
I'm very concerned about her and her generation's ability to cope with all the crap that has been thrown at them.

People are going to think I wrote this book, but if you're even slightly into how we think, check this out.

[media-amazon.com image 294x440]

It's always going to be hard.  Living is not easy. But we have corrupted our ties to each other with technology, and that makes it much harder.  Computers can't replace people in the important ways--but they've been sold to us as though they can.
If we survive what we've set in motion, it will be because we remembered our humanity, not because some farking tech saved us, no matter what the farking financial pages tell you.  If they didn't lie, we wouldn't be in this fix would we?
But guess who controls all the money?


Thank you.  I just checked out this ebook from the library.  I appreciate the recommendation.
 
2022-10-06 3:25:56 PM  

BurghDude: I have a 14-year-old daughter.  I'm really concerned about her, with cellphone addiction, the covid pandemic upending her life and schooling for two years, constant political and economic turmoil both in the US and globally, combined with all the other angst and uncertainty that has always been part and parcel of the mid-to-late teenage years.  I really don't know if she understands how to stay focused, be diligent, have goals, manage changing social situations, etc.  She also seems very difficult to talk to about these things and tends to just shut me out a lot of the time (again, teenager, I realize, but still...)  Does not help that her mother and I do not get along well at all.

I'm very concerned about her and her generation's ability to cope with all the crap that has been thrown at them.


The solution is staring you in the face: emigrate.
 
2022-10-06 9:21:07 PM  
researchers noted significant declines in the traits that help us navigate social situations, trust others, think creatively, and act responsibly.

Navigating social situations is a skill and like any skill it must be practiced but it's easier for an introvert to be alone for long periods. Still, even I need to connect now and then and digital can't replace the physical for that.

As for the loss of trust; I've always been a bit of a misanthrope. By and large people have been a disappointment punctuated every so often by singular moments of brilliance. I guess it's those occasional brilliant parts keep me from giving up on humanity entirely.

As for the rest, I've been having a bit of a renaissance truth be told. Republicans would love the bootstrappiness of it. A real rags to, uh, better rags story. But hey! Bootstraps!
 
2022-10-06 11:40:05 PM  
You know how alcohol "intensifies" your personality, so the guy who was a jerk before he's drunk is now a full blown asshole?

Well that's what the pandemic did to me. It "intensified" my distain of other people and my desire to have nothing to do with them.

//Because I was already an asshole.
 
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