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(CNBC)   Peloton CEO says the company has 6 months left to prove itself. Keep pushing. Just one more hill. We're almost there. You can do it   (cnbc.com) divider line
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2022-10-06 8:53:15 AM  
I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.
 
2022-10-06 8:55:20 AM  

Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.


I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?
 
2022-10-06 9:04:21 AM  

Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?


The bike is an extremely solid piece of equipment.  My only quibble is that what is effectively the stem length is not adjustable.

I really don't understand the cost arguments, though.  A Peloton is way cheaper than going to live spin classes 5 times a week and a rounding error compared to even a modest road biking habit.
 
2022-10-06 10:27:21 AM  

OptionC: Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?

The bike is an extremely solid piece of equipment.  My only quibble is that what is effectively the stem length is not adjustable.

I really don't understand the cost arguments, though.  A Peloton is way cheaper than going to live spin classes 5 times a week and a rounding error compared to even a modest road biking habit.


Because if you're going to get a home stationary bike you can get one for far less and still get a very good bike. You're not paying for the bike, you're paying for the tablet and the name.

You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

It's not that expensive to stay in shape, it's expensive to show off while doing it.
 
2022-10-06 10:29:27 AM  
Do they still have that weird restriction that the stationary bicycle you purchased is nonfunctional without a paid subscription?
 
2022-10-06 10:42:36 AM  
Sorry, but the correct Peloton terminology would be "You got this, Boo!"

/Mr Radley, if yo nasty
 
2022-10-06 10:45:23 AM  

Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.


iat's not a bad concept from before Pandemic. Then it got valued like Tesla in that they thought everyone would be on it shortly. Neither Tesla or Peloton grew to the expectation. The idea you'd have a million people pumping away under spin guidance normally offered in a small class made sense. The idea you'd have a billion people subscribe was jaberwocky.
 
2022-10-06 10:46:19 AM  
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2022-10-06 10:50:14 AM  

SMB2811: It's not that expensive to stay in shape, it's expensive to show off while doing it.


Bolded for emphasis.
 
2022-10-06 10:57:57 AM  

Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?


The cult is the whole point.  People want to flaunt their wealth by way of membership in an exclusive club.  See also Yeti Coolers, lifted Jeeps, pretty much any article of clothing with a logo on it, whatever.
 
2022-10-06 11:19:50 AM  

Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?


I had a pro form bike (same concept but cheaper) before the pandemic and had it through the fall of 2020. Had a lot of issues with it and eventually upgraded to the Peloton.
Haven't had any issues in 2 years, like the platform better, like the classes/trainers more as well too. I know there are cheaper options but my wife and I use it everyday so it's not like it's been a bad investment. I don't know if it still holds up but have seen some stats that Peloton had some of the highest retention rates of all exercise equipment and the best exercise equipment is the one that gets used.
It was never gonna be what people pumping the stock price thought it would be. But it's gonna keep being a luxury good for upper middle class people who want to workout at home.
 
2022-10-06 11:24:41 AM  

Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?


I don't think Peloton really does the "gameifying" thing as far as I can tell. It's just classes where you have to do whatever an instructor tells you, right? I guess "number of days" streaks and beating other scores in the class might be fun in the short term but would get old quick. Seems incredibly boring to me.

If you want to gameify bike riding, just hop on Zwift and play an actual game that features bikes. You can go ride up a mountain, participate in a race, or, yes, go ride a training program, and each step along the way unlock faster bikes, new kits/helmets/shoes, or get badges for completing routes or missions.
 
2022-10-06 11:41:12 AM  

SMB2811: It's not that expensive to stay in shape, it's expensive to show off while doing it.


That's always been my problem with Peloton and all of the other high-priced health equipment.  One of the myths people use as an excuse not to exercise is the high price, and it's one of those myths you see reiterated here frequently.  Unless you're living in a war zone like Syria, Ukraine, or Baltimore, where it's dangerous to be outside, basic fitness only requires a comfortable pair of shoes to go for a walk (or jog, if you're capable), and a set of $20 bands for simple resistance training.  And even the scientists, who Farkers love to laud when it comes to the pandemic, say that basic fitness only requires about 150 minutes per week -- 30 minutes per day, 5 days per week.
 
2022-10-06 11:43:10 AM  

SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.


Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.
 
2022-10-06 11:47:43 AM  

Shaggy_C: Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?

I don't think Peloton really does the "gameifying" thing as far as I can tell. It's just classes where you have to do whatever an instructor tells you, right? I guess "number of days" streaks and beating other scores in the class might be fun in the short term but would get old quick. Seems incredibly boring to me.

If you want to gameify bike riding, just hop on Zwift and play an actual game that features bikes. You can go ride up a mountain, participate in a race, or, yes, go ride a training program, and each step along the way unlock faster bikes, new kits/helmets/shoes, or get badges for completing routes or missions.


Might be a different target audience. For those that like a spin class, I suppose Peloton is directed to them. Personally, I'm not that audience. I don't like spin class but I'm an avid cyclist that likes to go out for long IRL rides. A smart direct drive trainer that I can use my existing road bike on suits me. Coupled with a program like Zwift, it gives me more options. I could do a metric century on a dark wet evening in the comfort of my living room if I want. Also allows for more precise and efficient training than riding outside. My $0.02.
 
2022-10-06 11:55:06 AM  

OptionC: SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.


Define decent amount. If you aren't getting a bike that was made for competition use, you can find bikes less than $500, but they're not going to be showy.
 
2022-10-06 11:56:51 AM  

RoughTrickNamedJim: Shaggy_C: Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?

I don't think Peloton really does the "gameifying" thing as far as I can tell. It's just classes where you have to do whatever an instructor tells you, right? I guess "number of days" streaks and beating other scores in the class might be fun in the short term but would get old quick. Seems incredibly boring to me.

If you want to gameify bike riding, just hop on Zwift and play an actual game that features bikes. You can go ride up a mountain, participate in a race, or, yes, go ride a training program, and each step along the way unlock faster bikes, new kits/helmets/shoes, or get badges for completing routes or missions.

Might be a different target audience. For those that like a spin class, I suppose Peloton is directed to them. Personally, I'm not that audience. I don't like spin class but I'm an avid cyclist that likes to go out for long IRL rides. A smart direct drive trainer that I can use my existing road bike on suits me. Coupled with a program like Zwift, it gives me more options. I could do a metric century on a dark wet evening in the comfort of my living room if I want. Also allows for more precise and efficient training than riding outside. My $0.02.


The Peloton PowerZone classes are highly structured and there's always the "Just Ride" option.  Most of the  non-PowerZone classes are going to be unstructured junk miles, but the same is true of Zwift racing and outdoor riding (unless you live in Kansas or Florida, I guess).

During the week, at lunchtime, I either do a PZ class on my Peloton or a 20-25 mile loop on my nearby bike trail and on the weekends, I either binge-watch a show while doing a long Z2 ride on the Peloton or go on a 40+ mile bike adventure (all schedule/weather dependent, but I do try to get a mix)
 
2022-10-06 12:00:12 PM  

SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.

Define decent amount. If you aren't getting a bike that was made for competition use, you can find bikes less than $500, but they're not going to be showy.


Under $500 you're just getting a bike-shaped-object that's going to make you hate riding.
 
2022-10-06 12:03:23 PM  

OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.

Define decent amount. If you aren't getting a bike that was made for competition use, you can find bikes less than $500, but they're not going to be showy.

Under $500 you're just getting a bike-shaped-object that's going to make you hate riding.


That attitude is what costs money. You're looking for a status symbol.
 
2022-10-06 12:04:19 PM  

SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.

Define decent amount. If you aren't getting a bike that was made for competition use, you can find bikes less than $500, but they're not going to be showy.

Under $500 you're just getting a bike-shaped-object that's going to make you hate riding.

That attitude is what costs money. You're looking for a status symbol.


What road bike under $500 (new) do you think is worthwhile?
 
2022-10-06 12:12:39 PM  

OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.

Define decent amount. If you aren't getting a bike that was made for competition use, you can find bikes less than $500, but they're not going to be showy.

Under $500 you're just getting a bike-shaped-object that's going to make you hate riding.

That attitude is what costs money. You're looking for a status symbol.

What road bike under $500 (new) do you think is worthwhile?


Behold... the Eurobike! Only $380!
/s
 
2022-10-06 12:19:29 PM  

RoughTrickNamedJim: OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.

Define decent amount. If you aren't getting a bike that was made for competition use, you can find bikes less than $500, but they're not going to be showy.

Under $500 you're just getting a bike-shaped-object that's going to make you hate riding.

That attitude is what costs money. You're looking for a status symbol.

What road bike under $500 (new) do you think is worthwhile?

Behold... the Eurobike! Only $380!
/s


I looked at the reviews, Ray.

Also, holy shiat, 40 pounds?!?!?  That weighs more than my ancient full-squish mountain bike!  Did they make that thing out of lead?
 
2022-10-06 12:32:19 PM  
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But it has a glowing review! Seriously, you can find a pretty decent used bike for about $500 if you know what to look for. New? The transition from BSO to bike seems to start around $1000. Personally, if I could only have one bike and it had to be inexpensive, I'd get an aluminum gravel bike with 11-speed Shimano GRX components. Should be durable, reliable, and go more or less anywhere.
 
2022-10-06 12:40:04 PM  

OptionC: RoughTrickNamedJim: OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.

Define decent amount. If you aren't getting a bike that was made for competition use, you can find bikes less than $500, but they're not going to be showy.

Under $500 you're just getting a bike-shaped-object that's going to make you hate riding.

That attitude is what costs money. You're looking for a status symbol.

What road bike under $500 (new) do you think is worthwhile?

Behold... the Eurobike! Only $380!
/s

I looked at the reviews, Ray.

Also, holy shiat, 40 pounds?!?!?  That weighs more than my ancient full-squish mountain bike!  Did they make that thing out of lead?


You can pay a lot to get a bike that weighs virtually nothing. But the point is exercise, right? Unless you are trying to win races, heavy bikes are more exercise per mile and can cost literally 1% of the highest end bikes do.

Stuff like this is fine for people who just want to drive less and get some a bit of exercise. I think the price was a little lower in store too:
https://www.costco.com/infinity-boss-three--unisex-hybrid-bike.product.100810733.html

Meanwhile, a specialty bike shop in my town was burgled about a year ago. Over $80k in merch stolen. 3 bikes, nothing else. One was still incomplete, worth barely $20k.
 
2022-10-06 12:40:22 PM  

OptionC: RoughTrickNamedJim: OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: OptionC: SMB2811: You also don't have to go insane on a road bike either, you're pretty much doing that for show as well.

Lol.  Have you looked at road bike prices lately?

Also, if you're riding a decent amount, you're going to spend more on tires and maintenance than what a Peloton subscription costs.

Define decent amount. If you aren't getting a bike that was made for competition use, you can find bikes less than $500, but they're not going to be showy.

Under $500 you're just getting a bike-shaped-object that's going to make you hate riding.

That attitude is what costs money. You're looking for a status symbol.

What road bike under $500 (new) do you think is worthwhile?

Behold... the Eurobike! Only $380!
/s

I looked at the reviews, Ray.

Also, holy shiat, 40 pounds?!?!?  That weighs more than my ancient full-squish mountain bike!  Did they make that thing out of lead?


Some reviews said 30lb, and looking around trying to get a straight answer seems to indicate that bike is aimed at large riders (up to 330lb) so that might explain it, if you just wanted a bike that works that you can ride, what exactly is wrong with that.

Separate yourself from cycling culture and actually what is wrong for someone just wanting to stay fit with some activity with maybe ~1h a day, maybe longer on their weekend.

Ya, you're going to get derided by who look at it like 'a habit' and people that have to look like a serious cyclist, but that isn't most people.
 
2022-10-06 12:42:27 PM  

Ray_Finkle: Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?

I had a pro form bike (same concept but cheaper) before the pandemic and had it through the fall of 2020. Had a lot of issues with it and eventually upgraded to the Peloton.
Haven't had any issues in 2 years, like the platform better, like the classes/trainers more as well too. I know there are cheaper options but my wife and I use it everyday so it's not like it's been a bad investment. I don't know if it still holds up but have seen some stats that Peloton had some of the highest retention rates of all exercise equipment and the best exercise equipment is the one that gets used.
It was never gonna be what people pumping the stock price thought it would be. But it's gonna keep being a luxury good for upper middle class people who want to workout at home.


I'm the opposite, I got a Pro-form bike and tread specifically to avoid the "classes" style workouts.  The outdoor settings, learning about the history/culture of different places and trainers doing the things that they do, marathoners teaching running, pro riders teaching riding, etc.

Either way there is an upper limit to "people with enough money and space to have a home gym AND want to pay a monthly/yearly subscription instead of 'go outside'", the pandemic simply accelerated the companies hiatting that ceiling.  Now their growth is tied almost exclusively to the economy, if the economy isn't turning out new upper middle class families that don't also already have access to the equipment and/or have space/need for home gym, then the companies will not grow without raising rates.
 
2022-10-06 12:51:24 PM  

RoughTrickNamedJim: I'd get an aluminum gravel bike with 11-speed Shimano GRX components


Yup, that's the way to go.  Canyon, Trek and Specialized all make nice aluminum gravel bikes around the $2K price point and you won't regret buying it a year (or even 5 years) later.
 
2022-10-06 1:01:24 PM  

OccamsWhiskers: Stuff like this is fine for people who just want to drive less and get some a bit of exercise. I think the price was a little lower in store too:
https://www.costco.com/infinity-boss-three--unisex-hybrid-bike.product.100810733.html


Well, that's not a road bike by any definition - it's a hybrid.

If you want a bike to park in your garage and ride to the pub occasionally, I guess that will work.  If you actually road that thing for an hour a day at an intensity approaching "exercise", it's not going to last, though.  It's pretty much the definition of a BSO.

I'm not suggesting that you need to buy a $10K road bike to get exercise, but if you want something that will ride decent and last you're probably going to have to spend at least $1500 (or know what to look for in the used market)
 
2022-10-06 1:01:45 PM  

OptionC: RoughTrickNamedJim: I'd get an aluminum gravel bike with 11-speed Shimano GRX components

Yup, that's the way to go.  Canyon, Trek and Specialized all make nice aluminum gravel bikes around the $2K price point and you won't regret buying it a year (or even 5 years) later.


Actually, I bought a Trek Checkpoint ALR5 for about $2000 two years ago mostly as a commuter and occasional offroader. Perfectly capable and reliable in stock form. I upgraded it bit by bit over time. Now, the only original part is the frame. It's a built up gravel assault bike that's still perfectly capable of tackling rocky singletrack and epic road rides. In fact, my first double metric was on that bike, 40mm knobbies and all. It's done the BWR multiple times and was never a limiting factor (I was).
 
2022-10-06 1:04:18 PM  

OptionC: What road bike under $500 (new) do you think is worthwhile?


Not quite under $500 ($529) but this is what I bought mid-pandemic. My only complaint is the lack of drop bars, as when I bought it I figured I'd be doing a mix of road and off-road riding but since have ended up almost being exclusively on a trainer.
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RoughTrickNamedJim: Might be a different target audience. For those that like a spin class, I suppose Peloton is directed to them. Personally, I'm not that audience. I don't like spin class but I'm an avid cyclist that likes to go out for long IRL rides. A smart direct drive trainer that I can use my existing road bike on suits me. Coupled with a program like Zwift, it gives me more options. I could do a metric century on a dark wet evening in the comfort of my living room if I want. Also allows for more precise and efficient training than riding outside. My $0.02.


I would also point out that you can easily use a road bike on a trainer to do spin classes and get the full experience, but using a spin bike as a dumb trainer on something like Zwift is a rather empty experience as you don't get to feel any of the gradient changes that mimic real life.

Seems very much like an expensive 'one trick pony' versus the more complicated (albeit cheaper) setup with a road bike and smart trainer.
 
2022-10-06 1:09:52 PM  

SMB2811: Because if you're going to get a home stationary bike you can get one for far less and still get a very good bike.


This is said in pretty much all of the Peloton threads but no one ever goes on to offer a comparison.

Simply put, the Peloton bike is a solidly built bike, along the lines of those you'd see in commercial gyms.  And the price is in line as well.

There's a lot to shiat on Peloton for between their insane market miscalculations and cringeworthy marketing, but the product itself is good.
 
2022-10-06 1:19:00 PM  

RoughTrickNamedJim: OptionC: RoughTrickNamedJim: I'd get an aluminum gravel bike with 11-speed Shimano GRX components

Yup, that's the way to go.  Canyon, Trek and Specialized all make nice aluminum gravel bikes around the $2K price point and you won't regret buying it a year (or even 5 years) later.

Actually, I bought a Trek Checkpoint ALR5 for about $2000 two years ago mostly as a commuter and occasional offroader. Perfectly capable and reliable in stock form. I upgraded it bit by bit over time. Now, the only original part is the frame. It's a built up gravel assault bike that's still perfectly capable of tackling rocky singletrack and epic road rides. In fact, my first double metric was on that bike, 40mm knobbies and all. It's done the BWR multiple times and was never a limiting factor (I was).


I've got the 2021 Checkpoint SL5 - I haven't done any upgrades, but it's a great bike.  When I head up into the Sierras it's actually my preferred bike because you can scale a wall with that 30 tooth front chainring
 
2022-10-06 3:43:56 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: SMB2811: Because if you're going to get a home stationary bike you can get one for far less and still get a very good bike.

This is said in pretty much all of the Peloton threads but no one ever goes on to offer a comparison.

Simply put, the Peloton bike is a solidly built bike, along the lines of those you'd see in commercial gyms.  And the price is in line as well.

There's a lot to shiat on Peloton for between their insane market miscalculations and cringeworthy marketing, but the product itself is good.


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yosuda-Indoor-Cycling-Stationary-Exercise-Bike-for-Home-with-Comfortable-Seat-Cushion-Silent-Belt-Drive-iPad-Holder/838145055

$250
 
2022-10-06 3:57:53 PM  

Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.


Same.

Its like Apple. Where those who don't buy the expensive stuff is viewed as "lesser".
 
2022-10-06 4:00:16 PM  

OptionC: Gubbo: Winterlight: I have never understood the entire Peloton thing. Just seems vaguely cultish.

I understand the concept of gameifying exercise. And it probably works.

But yeah this was just a cult. Was the bike even significantly better than other options at half the price?

The bike is an extremely solid piece of equipment.  My only quibble is that what is effectively the stem length is not adjustable.

I really don't understand the cost arguments, though.  A Peloton is way cheaper than going to live spin classes 5 times a week and a rounding error compared to even a modest road biking habit.


A Peleton bike costs 10* as much as other bikes, whilst offering nothing at all that they don't.

The online training is a monthly subscription, so, its not tied to the bicycle.
 
2022-10-06 5:36:35 PM  

SMB2811: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: SMB2811: Because if you're going to get a home stationary bike you can get one for far less and still get a very good bike.

This is said in pretty much all of the Peloton threads but no one ever goes on to offer a comparison.

Simply put, the Peloton bike is a solidly built bike, along the lines of those you'd see in commercial gyms.  And the price is in line as well.

There's a lot to shiat on Peloton for between their insane market miscalculations and cringeworthy marketing, but the product itself is good.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yosuda-Indoor-Cycling-Stationary-Exercise-Bike-for-Home-with-Comfortable-Seat-Cushion-Silent-Belt-Drive-iPad-Holder/838145055

$250


Yeah, that's not exactly a comparable option.  If you can find one costing far less but offers a fairly similar feature set then I'm all ears/eyes.


Ketchuponsteak: A Peleton bike costs 10* as much as other bikes, whilst offering nothing at all that they don't.


Find me a bike that offers a similar feature set that is 1/10th the price.

Again, shiat on the company itself, their business model, their dumb commercials, and so on.  The hardware itself* is very much in line with other high end bikes in price, build, and features.

These are the same reductionist comparisons that farkers love to make to try and prove how brilliant they are by saving money.


*bike only.  No idea how their other stuff shakes out.
 
2022-10-06 5:56:48 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: SMB2811: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: SMB2811: Because if you're going to get a home stationary bike you can get one for far less and still get a very good bike.

This is said in pretty much all of the Peloton threads but no one ever goes on to offer a comparison.

Simply put, the Peloton bike is a solidly built bike, along the lines of those you'd see in commercial gyms.  And the price is in line as well.

There's a lot to shiat on Peloton for between their insane market miscalculations and cringeworthy marketing, but the product itself is good.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yosuda-Indoor-Cycling-Stationary-Exercise-Bike-for-Home-with-Comfortable-Seat-Cushion-Silent-Belt-Drive-iPad-Holder/838145055

$250

Yeah, that's not exactly a comparable option.  If you can find one costing far less but offers a fairly similar feature set then I'm all ears/eyes.


Ketchuponsteak: A Peleton bike costs 10* as much as other bikes, whilst offering nothing at all that they don't.

Find me a bike that offers a similar feature set that is 1/10th the price.

Again, shiat on the company itself, their business model, their dumb commercials, and so on.  The hardware itself* is very much in line with other high end bikes in price, build, and features.

These are the same reductionist comparisons that farkers love to make to try and prove how brilliant they are by saving money.


*bike only.  No idea how their other stuff shakes out.


Well. What feature set?

What is there beyond, the bicycle, the ability to adjust the resistance through a magnet, and the abilty to set this resistance via Bluetooth, thus allowing the online stuff.

I have a Jetstream JBC 700, which offers the above. Well, and it can measure my pulse rating, which is nice I guess.

But essentially. *Bike, *Bluetooth adjustable resistance. Peloton offers something else than this?
 
2022-10-06 6:08:26 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: Well. What feature set?

What is there beyond, the bicycle, the ability to adjust the resistance through a magnet, and the abilty to set this resistance via Bluetooth, thus allowing the online stuff.

I have a Jetstream JBC 700, which offers the above. Well, and it can measure my pulse rating, which is nice I guess.

But essentially. *Bike, *Bluetooth adjustable resistance. Peloton offers something else than this?


I'm having difficulty finding an English link to that particular bike to try and make the comparison.  But, for example, the $250 Walmart one another poster linked to was a belt driven bike, not magnetic (not applicable to yours since you say it's also magnetic).
 
2022-10-06 6:16:52 PM  

OptionC: OccamsWhiskers: Stuff like this is fine for people who just want to drive less and get some a bit of exercise. I think the price was a little lower in store too:
https://www.costco.com/infinity-boss-three--unisex-hybrid-bike.product.100810733.html

Well, that's not a road bike by any definition - it's a hybrid.

If you want a bike to park in your garage and ride to the pub occasionally, I guess that will work.  If you actually road that thing for an hour a day at an intensity approaching "exercise", it's not going to last, though.  It's pretty much the definition of a BSO.

I'm not suggesting that you need to buy a $10K road bike to get exercise, but if you want something that will ride decent and last you're probably going to have to spend at least $1500 (or know what to look for in the used market)


Yes, fair enough. I'm not even invested enough to realize that "road bike" is a lot more specific than "bike that's perfectly good for road use". I bike around 50-60 miles a month, but don't consider that exercise. For that, it's all indoor home equipment - elliptical, recumbent stationary bike, rowing machine over the years.
 
2022-10-06 6:35:42 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Ketchuponsteak: Well. What feature set?

What is there beyond, the bicycle, the ability to adjust the resistance through a magnet, and the abilty to set this resistance via Bluetooth, thus allowing the online stuff.

I have a Jetstream JBC 700, which offers the above. Well, and it can measure my pulse rating, which is nice I guess.

But essentially. *Bike, *Bluetooth adjustable resistance. Peloton offers something else than this?

I'm having difficulty finding an English link to that particular bike to try and make the comparison.  But, for example, the $250 Walmart one another poster linked to was a belt driven bike, not magnetic (not applicable to yours since you say it's also magnetic).


Yeah, that's why I mentioned that it was magnetic, because that is one thing that matters.

The weight of the swingwheel apparently matters as well, to give you an even pedaling. Perhaps the Peloton offers a heavier swingwheel? The Jetstream is heavy enough to me anyway.

But yes, with those things being the only stuff that matters, I fail to understand how the price difference to Peloton is justified.
 
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