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(Axios)   New computer chip factory in upstate New York means 10% of global chip market will be U.S.-made by 2030. Korea and Taiwan heard snickering   (axios.com) divider line
    More: Unlikely, United States, New York City, New York, U.S. state, New York State chip facility, Micron CEO Sanjay Mehrotra, Syracuse, New York, big picture  
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349 clicks; posted to Business » on 06 Oct 2022 at 5:18 AM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-06 5:52:36 AM  
Unlikely tag? Might want to look at what Global Foundries is doing in Saratoga, in upstate ny. Making chips, and not the potato kind.

Fun fact, kettle chips are claimed to have originated in Saratoga, NY in the 1800s.
 
2022-10-06 6:53:35 AM  
Make it a sanctuary city and bus in cheap labor.
 
2022-10-06 7:00:43 AM  
There's a high demand for chips that don't require dealing with China's politics and current emperor. Anyone who can meet a substantial chunk of that demand is going to have no shortage of customers happy to buy their entire stock.
 
2022-10-06 7:03:27 AM  
How else are they going to get the chips to make us start having more kids again?  Even North Korea won't touch that one.
 
2022-10-06 7:49:36 AM  
Taiwan makes 90% of the worlds chips. With China threatening Taiwan , it is time to bring back some manufacturing otherwise we will have more companies complaining of supply chain problems.
 
2022-10-06 7:49:42 AM  
This will work out about as well as the Wisconsin Foxconn deal.
 
2022-10-06 7:57:59 AM  
Domestic (or even just "western") capacity is a good thing

Are they perhaps optimistic in their projections? Sure. But if they can hit volume equivalent to that % of TODAYS global production, that is fantastic
 
2022-10-06 7:59:50 AM  
You know, we used to build chips here in the US...back in the day.
 
2022-10-06 8:11:09 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: This will work out about as well as the Wisconsin Foxconn deal.


Micron already has two US manufacturing facilities, in Boise and Manassas, VA.  They currently have 2 in US, 2 in Taiwan, 1 in China, 1 in Japan, 2 in Malaysia and 1 in Singapore.
 
2022-10-06 8:18:59 AM  

TTFK: Marcus Aurelius: This will work out about as well as the Wisconsin Foxconn deal.

Micron already has two US manufacturing facilities, in Boise and Manassas, VA.  They currently have 2 in US, 2 in Taiwan, 1 in China, 1 in Japan, 2 in Malaysia and 1 in Singapore.


Imagine thinking a Democratic governor would be as dumb as Scott Walker.
 
2022-10-06 8:46:43 AM  
WTF is a "Memory Chip"?  RAM?
 
2022-10-06 8:47:05 AM  

Flowery Twats: You know, we used to build chips here in the US...back in the day.


Well, we did... until Max Zorin came calling.

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2022-10-06 8:49:48 AM  
This is one of the most important things, strategically speaking, right now. If and when China invades Taiwan, the world's access to microchips goes bye-bye.

We need to either start making important shiat here or only deal with countries that have regular free and fair elections. No more dealing with dictators just because we want cheap shiat.
 
2022-10-06 8:57:25 AM  

TTFK: Marcus Aurelius: This will work out about as well as the Wisconsin Foxconn deal.

Micron already has two US manufacturing facilities, in Boise and Manassas, VA.  They currently have 2 in US, 2 in Taiwan, 1 in China, 1 in Japan, 2 in Malaysia and 1 in Singapore.


And I have a girlfriend in Canada.
 
2022-10-06 9:21:43 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: And I have a girlfriend in Canada.


Wait, so you're saying that Micron doesn't have those facilities?

Or... do you really have a girlfriend in Canada?
 
2022-10-06 9:22:41 AM  
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2022-10-06 9:38:24 AM  

electricjebus: WTF is a "Memory Chip"?  RAM?


RAM, flash, SSD.

Very broadly, semiconductor manufacturing breaks down into 2 categories: logic and memory.
 
2022-10-06 9:58:36 AM  

electricjebus: WTF is a "Memory Chip"?  RAM?


Although the applications are very different between DRAM and SSDs, it turns out the processes to build them are essentially identical, and have similar challenges.  This means that with not a lot of effort you can switch over a fab line from making DDR4 to SSDs fairly quickly.  From what I've heard it's a production hit like switching over from making the 2018 model of a car to the 2019 model of a car, not like switching from making cars to pickup trucks.  Producing CPUs or FPGAs would be difficult on the same production line - different set of problems.  So "memory chips" is a good catchall for what would be made in the production facility.
 
2022-10-06 11:18:07 AM  
 
2022-10-06 11:21:10 AM  
 
2022-10-06 12:14:55 PM  
This is good. We should never have stopped making chips in the US. It's a strategic ability. When you buy 'em from Chine, who knows what you're getting. Maybe exactly what you asked for, maybe not. A domestic source is safer.
 
2022-10-06 12:22:26 PM  

Flowery Twats: We should never have stopped making chips in the US


We never did.  Intel, Global Foundries, IBM, Micron and several others have been making chips in the US continually.
 
2022-10-06 3:12:50 PM  

bighairyguy: Make it a sanctuary city and bus in cheap labor.


Potatoe chip factory
 
2022-10-06 3:13:33 PM  

trerro: There's a high demand for chips that don't require dealing with China's politics and current emperor. Anyone who can meet a substantial chunk of that demand is going to have no shortage of customers happy to buy their entire stock.


Im just greatful murca doesnt have any politics
 
2022-10-06 3:17:06 PM  

MadHatter500: electricjebus: WTF is a "Memory Chip"?  RAM?

Although the applications are very different between DRAM and SSDs, it turns out the processes to build them are essentially identical, and have similar challenges.  This means that with not a lot of effort you can switch over a fab line from making DDR4 to SSDs fairly quickly.  From what I've heard it's a production hit like switching over from making the 2018 model of a car to the 2019 model of a car, not like switching from making cars to pickup trucks.  Producing CPUs or FPGAs would be difficult on the same production line - different set of problems.  So "memory chips" is a good catchall for what would be made in the production facility.


Pro 680 or bust!!
 
2022-10-06 3:17:38 PM  

sid244: The Intel chip factory should be up and going by 2025.  

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-announces-next-us-site-landmark-investment-ohio.html


Sorry

AMD here
 
2022-10-06 5:42:29 PM  

dumbobruni: IBM is getting in on the fun

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/06/biden-to-tout-ibms-plans-to-invest-20-billion-in-new-york-over-the-next-decade.html


Wtf?

I know IBM isn't dead yet, but where the hell did they find 20 billion to deploy?
 
2022-10-06 7:08:13 PM  
I don't care who makes the chips. We have a 12 month wait for Pi 4 here. SOMEBODY farkING DO IT!
 
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