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2022-10-05 10:14:32 PM  
Moderator: "Too late."
 
2022-10-05 10:15:37 PM  
Moderator. Narrator. Whatever.
 
2022-10-05 10:20:50 PM  
More like well done steak with ketchup on it
 
2022-10-05 10:34:42 PM  
I feel like that shipped has sailed.
 
2022-10-05 10:39:41 PM  
They don't need no estinking legitimacy.
 
2022-10-05 11:11:56 PM  
Too late. Just ignore them at this point.
 
2022-10-05 11:15:04 PM  
In all fairness, I want to see a state like California come out and say "I don't care what the Supreme Court says we're doing our own thing". Yes it will cause the red states to do the same. But at least I'll find joy in the sphincter clinching of Alito and Thomas. Heck Gilead Queen may be so upset she will need to cry into her husband's nether regions for advice. Bonus points if beer bro shows up drunk to the bench and snears at people.
 
2022-10-05 11:27:02 PM  

4seasons85!: In all fairness, I want to see a state like California come out and say "I don't care what the Supreme Court says we're doing our own thing". Yes it will cause the red states to do the same. But at least I'll find joy in the sphincter clinching of Alito and Thomas. Heck Gilead Queen may be so upset she will need to cry into her husband's nether regions for advice. Bonus points if beer bro shows up drunk to the bench and snears at people.


"Those leopards will never eat my face."
 
2022-10-05 11:34:15 PM  
The Supremes are nothing but an unelected political body
 
2022-10-06 1:05:33 AM  
Bush v. Gore, Citizens United, the destruction of the Voter Rights Act and Dobbs were hyperpartisan rulings that have significantly degraded our democracy. Many states are already de facto dictatorships with minority rule forever, thanks to past SCOTUS decisions.

Now, enter the destruction of the "administrative state" by further wrecking the federal government's power to set consistent rules and enforce federal standards in every state, and they may well bring about the disintegration of the Union itself if this keeps up.

We all lose.
 
2022-10-06 1:42:20 AM  
Subby, I think you meant "The current SCOTUS 'Justices' have driven a stake through the Court's legitimacy".
 
2022-10-06 3:05:41 AM  
They gave up on legitimacy back in Bush v. Gore. Everything since then has been a long, slow, bloody slide down a somewhat steep gravel hill.
 
2022-10-06 4:39:15 AM  

4seasons85!: Too late. Just ignore them at this point.


It worked in Pennsylvania against the state supreme court on the gerrymandered map.  Why honor any court decisions?  You want to be a true PatriotTM, don't you?
 
2022-10-06 5:35:29 AM  

MrBallou: They don't need no estinking legitimacy.


As long as the White House and Congress still obey their rulings, they have "legitimacy". I wish we had a President who would say "they made their ruling, now let them enforce it". The SC has far too much unchecked, undemocratic power.
 
2022-10-06 5:36:40 AM  

4seasons85!: Too late. Just ignore them at this point.


Except, of course, if you live in a red state, because they love this shiat.
 
2022-10-06 5:39:12 AM  
The only way for SCOTUS to regain whatever legitimacy it ever had is for Democrats to expand the court and put good people on it to more than balance the hacks.
 
2022-10-06 5:40:44 AM  
The Supreme Court has no legitimacy at this point. At least four of the justices need to be removed due to being flagrantly unfit and compromised, and two more are basically just as bad but we don't know the finer details. But since there's basically no mechanism to handle an entire entrenched party going full rogue fascist in the constitution, we're just stuck with the farkers.
 
2022-10-06 5:40:48 AM  
Why would anyone still be pretending that SCOTUS has any integrity, ethics, or legitimacy at this late date?
 
2022-10-06 5:40:54 AM  
Impeach Beer Bro for starters.
 
2022-10-06 6:00:21 AM  
...and the Titanic's buoyancy is at stake.

/iceberg
//Citizens United
///Bush v. Gore
 
2022-10-06 6:01:32 AM  
The Supreme Court is the way it is because democrats can't seem to do a lick of long term planning.

"I'm going to protest vote for Jill Stein!"

Ugh.
 
2022-10-06 6:12:37 AM  
It's legitimacy went out the window when it threw Roe out the window.
 
2022-10-06 6:13:14 AM  

Herb Utsmelz: 4seasons85!: Too late. Just ignore them at this point.

It worked in Pennsylvania against the state supreme court on the gerrymandered map.  Why honor any court decisions?  You want to be a true PatriotTM, don't you?


Ohio as well.

Hooray, "real" slates of 2024 electors and Constitutional Convention, here we come!
 
2022-10-06 6:16:04 AM  

lindalouwho: Why would anyone still be pretending that SCOTUS has any integrity, ethics, or legitimacy at this late date?


The only people who want to preserve the appearance of legitimacy of our institutions without acting to ensure integrity and legitimacy of our institutions are people who profit off of our institutions being corrupt and broken.
 
2022-10-06 6:23:18 AM  
The SCOTUS?

The SCOTUS with the SCROTUSES that sit on the SCOTUS and interpret the COTUS for the POTUS?

The SCROTUSES selected by the ROTUSES and SOTUSES of each HOTUS?

The ROTUSES and SOTUSES of each HOTUS who carefully vets each SCROTUS on the SCOTUS?

the SCROTUSES who can just interpret the COTUS to suit the POTUS or a ROTUS or SOTUS of either HOTUS?

say it isn't so!
 
2022-10-06 6:23:31 AM  
Justice Samuel Alito went a step further, saying that implying "the court is becoming an illegitimate institution or questioning our integrity crosses an important line."

Throwing out your judicial integrity crosses an important line. So does a court whose very composition was illegitimately manipulated by Congress.
 
2022-10-06 6:29:34 AM  
They won't give up their gavels, their "hammers", if you will. They think of themselves as legitimate, and too legit to quit.

MC Hammer - 2 Legit 2 Quit (Official Video)
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2022-10-06 6:33:15 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The Supremes are nothing but an unelected political body


I just finished reading the federalist papers, aside from it basically reading like "we should do X to prevent Y" and Y being straight up exactly what the Republicans today are doing, like they've read it for a guide, I did think it interesting it was specifically suggested that no limits on the judges serving period free them from having to worry about popularity and can just do what is legally correct.

Didn't seem to work out so well. I wonder if it's because they were different times, and what worked then might not work today. Constitutions might be better off being living, flexible, documents, rather than sacred, worshipped as infallible, holy texts.

Although the people who do that tend not to have read it, or the Bible, which they also claim is perfect, so they can dress in sheeps clothing and lead the flock astray.

/Sorry, hell of a tangent there.
//Education is the only answer. To everything.
 
2022-10-06 6:44:21 AM  
Good job there, way to bend over forward to present both sides of the argument, even when one side's argument is "FARK WOMEN FARK SLURS FARK DEMOCRACY!"
 
2022-10-06 6:51:35 AM  
SCOTUS is looking at legitimacy in the rear view mirror.
 
2022-10-06 6:57:36 AM  
The only reason to continue pretending SCOTUS is a legitimate court is to allow the cult to get away with even more.
 
2022-10-06 7:03:56 AM  
They're out of order.
 
2022-10-06 7:07:06 AM  
Damn Constitution.  They should just let Twitter decide things.
 
2022-10-06 7:11:56 AM  
"Legitimate" or not, they're seated and untouchable for a lifetime term. So hang onto your butts.
 
2022-10-06 7:15:47 AM  
It's only a problem when the majority is of the opposite party. The biggest problem of course is that so many people are indoctrinated into accepting that there are only two choices.
 
2022-10-06 7:17:32 AM  

TheVirginMarty: It's only a problem when the majority is of the opposite party. The biggest problem of course is that so many people are indoctrinated into accepting that there are only two choices.


Fish don't notice water.

It's a problem regardless.  The courts should be apolitical.  They are there to interpret the law, not create justifications for bending it to their political leanings.
 
2022-10-06 7:18:49 AM  
Here is the timeline:

McConnel broke the rules and precedent by not interviewing Garland.  He waited until Drumpf was elected and got his pick.
The Justice Kennedy resigned for some unknown reason, and they picked a completely unqualified asshole, fratboy, beer loving, sexual assaulting toady to replace him.
Then RBG died, and McConnel broke the NEW precedent that HE himself set, by seating a new judge right before the election, that would have given Biden the pick.
Then we find our that Thomas' wife was instrumental in trying to overturn the election.
Then this newly seated court that was already illegitimate and borderline illegal decides to overturn RvW.  They did this after national protests telling the not to.

All of this clearly paints the picture that this court has no business making decisions about anything.  And many states will ignore their rulings. It's already happening.  It's been going on for a while, actually.

But here's the real problem.  MANY other states will enthusiastically follow what the court now allows.  And that is a REAL problem for the people that live in those states.  Like, a deadly, real problem.  And there is nothing anyone can do about that.

So, on one hand, yeah, we can ignore the court.  But on the other hand, we cannot ignore the pain and suffering this court is allowing and perpetuating in other parts of the country.

The only way to solve that problem is to dissolve this court and start over.  Either that or add a few seats.  And while we're at it, impose term limits.
 
2022-10-06 7:22:58 AM  
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2022-10-06 7:28:40 AM  
The article's headline is in the form of a question, so the answer is obviously "No".

Or does that rule not apply when liberals' feelings are hurt?
 
2022-10-06 7:29:34 AM  

Demetrius: Moderator. Narrator. Whatever.


It's easy to remember around here; narrators leave comments, moderators delete them.
 
2022-10-06 7:32:16 AM  
Supreme Court is loaded with chumps. Like Pubic Hair Thomas, I Like Beer Guy and Benito Alito.
 
2022-10-06 7:32:38 AM  
Beer bro and cuk to a traitor.
 
2022-10-06 7:35:53 AM  

hestheone: Damn Constitution.  They should just let Twitter decide things.


This distills pretty much the entirety of fark political comments on this matter down to the true essence.

It's not just the SCOTUS that lacks legitimacy. it's the entire federal government.  They'd rather have the populace whaaargarbling over democRATS versus rePUKElicans for all eternity than people develop the cohesion necessary to admit the whole mess is fundamentally broken and remove all of them from power.  Practically everyone at the federal level is a corrupt, self serving thief.
 
2022-10-06 7:37:48 AM  

budrojr: Practically everyone at the federal level is a corrupt, self serving thief.


Ahh.  BSAB, Are you suggesting voting 3rd party, or hoping for Democrat disengagement?
 
2022-10-06 7:41:13 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Ahh.  BSAB, Are you suggesting voting 3rd party, or hoping for Democrat disengagement?


A third party might shake things up a bit, but I don't think any of the problems are ever gonna get fixed without fundamental changes to the constitution addressing a lot of the hot button issues dividing the nation.
 
2022-10-06 7:41:50 AM  

WhiskeySticks: They're out of order.


Maybe call a repair man?
 
2022-10-06 7:44:27 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The Supremes are nothing but an unelected political body


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/hooray politics!
 
2022-10-06 7:45:35 AM  

budrojr: hestheone: Damn Constitution.  They should just let Twitter decide things.

This distills pretty much the entirety of fark political comments on this matter down to the true essence.

It's not just the SCOTUS that lacks legitimacy. it's the entire federal government.  They'd rather have the populace whaaargarbling over democRATS versus rePUKElicans for all eternity than people develop the cohesion necessary to admit the whole mess is fundamentally broken and remove all of them from power.  Practically everyone at the federal level is a corrupt, self serving thief.


Move to North Korea then.  That's more your kind of place.
 
2022-10-06 7:49:34 AM  
Another illegitimate Russian puppet government.
 
2022-10-06 7:49:55 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The Supremes are nothing but an unelected political body


Federalist Society hacks.
 
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