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(Neowin)   "Nice monitor you've got there, Linux user," said Linux kernel 5.19.12. "Shame if anything would happen to it"   (neowin.net) divider line
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2022-10-05 9:07:02 PM  
Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.
 
2022-10-05 10:04:55 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.


You could literally set monitor clocks (horizontal sync and vertical refresh) with X11 back in the day that could damage or destroy CRTs by running outside of specifications.
 
2022-10-05 11:14:40 PM  
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2022-10-05 11:17:01 PM  
Linux graphics drivers have trouble handling even simple displays:

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2022-10-05 11:18:27 PM  

null: Marcus Aurelius: Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.

You could literally set monitor clocks (horizontal sync and vertical refresh) with X11 back in the day that could damage or destroy CRTs by running outside of specifications.


You still can.  xvidtune still works too. Be happy manual adjustment isn't needed so often anymore.
 
2022-10-05 11:23:07 PM  

null: Marcus Aurelius: Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.

You could literally set monitor clocks (horizontal sync and vertical refresh) with X11 back in the day that could damage or destroy CRTs by running outside of specifications.


When the SGI workstations at a former employer aged out of production use several people held onto the monitors as the resolution and refresh rates were better than that of commodity PC CRT displays at the time. When those displays finally gave out at least one person tried to overdrive a commodity monitor to match what the SGI display could handle and it decided to "let the smoke out" in less than a week.
 
2022-10-05 11:28:48 PM  

Russ1642: Linux graphics drivers have trouble handling even simple displays:

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Shouldn't that label read: "Bat-voice - Bat-control Batmobile Bat-relay - Bat-circuit"?
 
2022-10-05 11:34:24 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.


IIRC for years you couldn't even get drivers for nvidia (or ati - it's been awhile).
 
2022-10-05 11:45:12 PM  

Chromium_One: null: Marcus Aurelius: Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.

You could literally set monitor clocks (horizontal sync and vertical refresh) with X11 back in the day that could damage or destroy CRTs by running outside of specifications.

You still can.  xvidtune still works too. Be happy manual adjustment isn't needed so often anymore.


I *hated* with the heat of a 1000 burning suns setting up drivers and getting X to work in the 90s/00's.  So, so, so much.  Like it's making me angry now.
 
2022-10-05 11:59:19 PM  

deffuse: Chromium_One: null: Marcus Aurelius: Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.

You could literally set monitor clocks (horizontal sync and vertical refresh) with X11 back in the day that could damage or destroy CRTs by running outside of specifications.

You still can.  xvidtune still works too. Be happy manual adjustment isn't needed so often anymore.

I *hated* with the heat of a 1000 burning suns setting up drivers and getting X to work in the 90s/00's.  So, so, so much.  Like it's making me angry now.


If you had good kit in the first place, it wasn't much of a problem. Matrox drivers and Eizo screens were a great combination, for example.
 
2022-10-06 12:04:02 AM  

likefunbutnot: deffuse: Chromium_One: null: Marcus Aurelius: Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.

If you had good kit in the first place, it wasn't much of a problem. Matrox drivers and Eizo screens were a great combination, for example.


I worked for the government.... so... that's a no haha.
 
2022-10-06 1:15:18 AM  
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2022-10-06 2:25:49 AM  
If you think about it, Linux was always supposed to be a terminal first so it makes sense that graphics were secondary lol
 
2022-10-06 2:58:50 AM  
That's unpleasant. Intel and AMD drivers usually don't have issues for me, at least not as many as nVidia. If there's one brand that i consistently have problems with under Linux, it's nVidia. Laptops are the worst. They always have backlight control issues.
 
2022-10-06 3:30:48 AM  

phimuskapsi: If you think about it, Linux was always supposed to be a terminal first so it makes sense that graphics were secondary lol


Yeah, but it's been a few weeks since people started considering bolting on a GUI and later making a serious push to make it a relevant desktop OS (mostly grats on that, btw.) Of all the potential knocks I can throw at Windows like wiping random shiat every few not-a-service-packs, reverting settings, yada yada, I don't recall it ever spurring a screen to commit sudoku like that.
 
2022-10-06 6:05:47 AM  

likefunbutnot: deffuse: Chromium_One: null: Marcus Aurelius: Linux graphics drivers have always been hit or miss.  AMDs used to be able melt down under Linux, for example.

You could literally set monitor clocks (horizontal sync and vertical refresh) with X11 back in the day that could damage or destroy CRTs by running outside of specifications.

You still can.  xvidtune still works too. Be happy manual adjustment isn't needed so often anymore.

I *hated* with the heat of a 1000 burning suns setting up drivers and getting X to work in the 90s/00's.  So, so, so much.  Like it's making me angry now.

If you had good kit in the first place, it wasn't much of a problem. Matrox drivers and Eizo screens were a great combination, for example.


Getting my Sony 13" monitor to work took me days. Luckily owners manuals came with information like dot clocks back then. (And who be to he who replaced his monitor with a cheap one without reconfigurating X first.)
 
2022-10-06 7:24:04 AM  
Ah, setting up X in the 90's and early 00's, what a PITA.

Interestingly, I have never had Linux "break" hardware. Windows on the other hand destroyed 1 SSD due to constant updated.

Windows BIOS flashing tools [from the mainboard manufacturer], destroyed one BIOS.

Windows of course, likes to eat data for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Remember when windows backup said it did something,and didn't actually do anything?

Anything that uses windows for firmware updates, brings back the heady days of "plug-n-pray".
 
2022-10-06 7:59:21 PM  

AlphaG33k: Interestingly, I have never had Linux "break" hardware. Windows on the other hand destroyed 1 SSD due to constant updated.


Some of my favorite-ever weird hardware issues both came from having a SCSI controller. Apparently no one ever tested a single goddamned thing with a SCSI controller in it.

Tyan workstation (i.e. Dual CPU deals with PCI-X slots on them) motherboards couldn't perform a successful BIOS flash with an Adaptec controller installed. I had a couple bricked boards that way before their support thought to ask if I had SCSI hardware. They DID make it up to me at least. The third replacement board they sent me still had some RAM installed when I got it.

And the game Interstate 76 had a bunch of weird bugs that, after actual weeks of troubleshooting with their support, came down to "Pull your SCSI controller and get a regular ATAPI drive or our game won't play." I've still never played Interstate 76. Which is weird because Mechwarrior 2, which was built on the same game engine, played just fine on that same computer.
 
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