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(CNBC)   Ford has raised the price of the F-150 Lightning to $51,000 for the base model. Wheels, seats, doors and batteries sold separately   (cnbc.com) divider line
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515 clicks; posted to Business » on 05 Oct 2022 at 7:12 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-05 7:30:14 PM  
The average new vehicle price has increased almost this much. Feels like a non story that applies to lots of cars and trucks.
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2022-10-05 7:31:43 PM  
Base model $51,000.
*$86,749 as pictured
 
2022-10-05 7:54:40 PM  
Pathetic.  They stole Elon's invention of the truck.
 
2022-10-05 8:04:28 PM  
Around here, people are listing new F150 Lightnings that they just took delivery of on Craigslist for between $100K and $110K.  I guess paying $30K-$40K or so over listing price is one way to skip the waiting list, though I'm not sure I'd recommend it.
 
2022-10-05 8:18:15 PM  
That's it. EVs are dead. Somebody call Soros and tell him we failed.

It's a good thing, too. I have a trip tomorrow that's 800 miles uphill in the snow both ways towing an 8,800lb fifth wheel. Name an EV that can do that, Muskhumpers.
 
2022-10-05 8:18:50 PM  
Astounding.

What do people think they are getting for all that money, then all of the upgrades, and then premiums over list for buying slightly used vehicles?

I do not understand the value proposition at all. Status? Peacocking? Greener than thou? It is hard to see what concrete basis of value exists for these valuations.

Unless it is Ford quality, or art and aesthetics.
 
2022-10-05 8:22:58 PM  
eventually only the rich and powerful will have EV in their gated communites, as they commute to their country clubs and Luncheons. The rest of the poor people will be stuck with shoddy ICE cars and pollute their communities
 
2022-10-05 8:31:59 PM  
$51,000 MSRP.  Truck sold separately.

\headline made betterer
 
2022-10-05 8:34:59 PM  

Likwit: That's it. EVs are dead. Somebody call Soros and tell him we failed.

It's a good thing, too. I have a trip tomorrow that's 800 miles uphill in the snow both ways towing an 8,800lb fifth wheel. Name an EV that can do that, Muskhumpers.


You joke, but I'm having lunch with my father on Friday and expect to hear something along those lines.
 
2022-10-05 8:36:45 PM  

kkinnison: eventually only the rich and powerful will have EV in their gated communites, as they commute to their country clubs and Luncheons. The rest of the poor people will be stuck with shoddy ICE cars and pollute their communities


Nope. Just wait for Cash for Clunkers, ICE edition.
 
hej
2022-10-05 8:37:14 PM  
Literally everything has gotten more expensive, but sure, let's biatch about EVs going up in price.
 
2022-10-05 8:44:10 PM  

hej: Literally everything has gotten more expensive, but sure, let's biatch about EVs going up in price.


You see, other things went up in price because of inflation. EVs went up in price because they're stupid impractical assmobiles for spoiled rich kids with tiny penises. Until the average EV can tow a boat from Nova Scotia to Baja, they're just overpriced toys.

And don't get me started on the child slave lithium refineries.
 
2022-10-05 8:48:17 PM  

Likwit: That's it. EVs are dead. Somebody call Soros and tell him we failed.

It's a good thing, too. I have a trip tomorrow that's 800 miles uphill in the snow both ways towing an 8,800lb fifth wheel. Name an EV that can do that, Muskhumpers.


You forgot that it "only takes one minute" to fuel up an ICE powered vehicle, so unless and EV instantaneously can be charged, they're impractical.
 
2022-10-05 8:51:55 PM  
How much is the coating that prevents scurvy?
 
2022-10-05 8:53:35 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: Likwit: That's it. EVs are dead. Somebody call Soros and tell him we failed.

It's a good thing, too. I have a trip tomorrow that's 800 miles uphill in the snow both ways towing an 8,800lb fifth wheel. Name an EV that can do that, Muskhumpers.

You forgot that it "only takes one minute" to fuel up an ICE powered vehicle, so unless and EV instantaneously can be charged, they're impractical.


Total dealbreaker. If my 10 hour drive had to be 11 hours, I might hang myself with the charging cord.
 
2022-10-05 9:17:33 PM  
So a couple grand less than a 3 year old truck with 40k miles.
 
2022-10-05 9:19:32 PM  

kkinnison: eventually only the rich and powerful will have EV in their gated communites, as they commute to their country clubs and Luncheons. The rest of the poor people will be stuck with shoddy ICE cars and pollute their communities


The poors will still drive their ICE vans to clean up, fix up and take care of the massive houses and properties during business hours.

During evenings and weekends it will be the clean EVs.
 
2022-10-05 9:31:39 PM  
You should buy one and then you'll have a place to live.  As long as you can find charging stations.  It would be really economical, and no one will know you're homeless, unlike those stinky van people.

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And I"m charging my electric bike with my truck!  Squeeee!!
 
2022-10-05 9:36:50 PM  

kkinnison: eventually only the rich and powerful will have EV in their gated communites, as they commute to their country clubs and Luncheons. The rest of the poor people will be stuck with shoddy ICE cars and pollute their communities


Good thing that air pollution stays where it was generated
 
2022-10-05 10:02:09 PM  
This is why I drive a Ford F-150 USB-C.
 
2022-10-05 10:23:01 PM  

2fardownthread: Astounding.

What do people think they are getting for all that money, then all of the upgrades, and then premiums over list for buying slightly used vehicles?

I do not understand the value proposition at all. Status? Peacocking? Greener than thou? It is hard to see what concrete basis of value exists for these valuations.

Unless it is Ford quality, or art and aesthetics.


If nobody ever bought new vehicles, where would used vehicles come from, smart guy?
Can you answer me that?
Didn't think so.
 
2022-10-05 11:08:47 PM  

jso2897: 2fardownthread: Astounding.

What do people think they are getting for all that money, then all of the upgrades, and then premiums over list for buying slightly used vehicles?

I do not understand the value proposition at all. Status? Peacocking? Greener than thou? It is hard to see what concrete basis of value exists for these valuations.

Unless it is Ford quality, or art and aesthetics.

If nobody ever bought new vehicles, where would used vehicles come from, smart guy?
Can you answer me that?
Didn't think so.


I guess depending on your definition of "nobody" and "buying vehicles", I guess leasing new vehicles might not technically count as owned, and fleet/rental cars are technically bought new by corporations rather than individuals.
 
2022-10-06 1:13:13 AM  

12349876: jso2897: 2fardownthread: Astounding.

What do people think they are getting for all that money, then all of the upgrades, and then premiums over list for buying slightly used vehicles?

I do not understand the value proposition at all. Status? Peacocking? Greener than thou? It is hard to see what concrete basis of value exists for these valuations.

Unless it is Ford quality, or art and aesthetics.

If nobody ever bought new vehicles, where would used vehicles come from, smart guy?
Can you answer me that?
Didn't think so.

I guess depending on your definition of "nobody" and "buying vehicles", I guess leasing new vehicles might not technically count as owned, and fleet/rental cars are technically bought new by corporations rather than individuals.


Is that enough to sustain the used market? Clearly some people are buying new cars.

It's funny because that guy just bought a new car, too.
 
2022-10-06 1:17:17 AM  

kkinnison: eventually only the rich and powerful will have EV in their gated communites, as they commute to their country clubs and Luncheons. The rest of the poor people will be stuck with shoddy ICE cars and pollute their communities


Here in California they'll be stuck with bicycles or public transportation. Ain't gonna be no gas cars 'lowed.
 
2022-10-06 2:15:32 AM  

Cyberluddite: Around here, people are listing new F150 Lightnings that they just took delivery of on Craigslist for between $100K and $110K.  I guess paying $30K-$40K or so over listing price is one way to skip the waiting list, though I'm not sure I'd recommend it.


You can buy some in-demand car brand new off the lot after waiting a few months for it to be delivered. Then drive it around the block, and trade it in to the dealer for $30K more than you paid for it. the dealer can then sell it for $50K over MRSP an as-good-as-new "used" truck, which aren't bound to the MSRP pricing from the manufacturers.

(Jacking up the prices of new trucks directly could risk them getting blacklisted by the manufacturer, but pricing on used cars and trade-ins are fair game)
 
2022-10-06 2:50:00 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: The average new vehicle price has increased almost this much. Feels like a non story that applies to lots of cars and trucks.
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The problem I see is when other stuff gets more expensive, people tend to buy less of it; when cars get more expensive, they don't generally respond by buying less car; instead, they stretch out the loan by a couple more years so it's "affordable". That's gonna come back to bite them in the ass.
 
2022-10-06 3:11:51 AM  

kkinnison: eventually only the rich and powerful will have EV in their gated communites, as they commute to their country clubs and Luncheons. The rest of the poor people will be stuck with shoddy ICE cars and pollute their communities


Electric golf carts have been used for that commute for decades
 
2022-10-06 3:13:50 AM  

hej: Literally everything has gotten more expensive, but sure, let's biatch about EVs going up in price.


Probably right. But pretty sure I can get a Ford truck below $51k
 
2022-10-06 6:53:51 AM  

neaorin: Fark_Guy_Rob: The average new vehicle price has increased almost this much. Feels like a non story that applies to lots of cars and trucks.
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The problem I see is when other stuff gets more expensive, people tend to buy less of it; when cars get more expensive, they don't generally respond by buying less car; instead, they stretch out the loan by a couple more years so it's "affordable". That's gonna come back to bite them in the ass.


It's not a problem for the people selling the cars, so it's not a "problem."
It's our problem.  That for some reason we blame on......our greed?  Our shiatty self-esteem?  Corporations?

Corporations it is then.
 
2022-10-06 9:49:34 AM  
I'm shocked (ha!) that it's that inexpensive.

/ new car prices are batshiat insane
 
2022-10-06 10:17:55 AM  
I just picked up an electric car after waiting 8 months. I paid sticker price, but like others have said I could turn around and sell it for 10-20k more than I paid for it, but I'd rather enjoy the 3 years of free charging that came with the car.
That said, fark anyone that exploits the system like that.
 
2022-10-06 12:45:47 PM  
The battery in the thing is so large you can never drive it and only use it as a whole house generator and it's still a bargain.
 
2022-10-06 1:43:55 PM  
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